[16:49] <tsimonq2> Looks like dailies are broken again
[16:51] <arraybolt3[m]> grr...
[16:52] <arraybolt3[m]> Oh, also, speaking of stuff like that, we need someone to do an upgrade test from Kinetic to Lunar. I'm a bit tied up at the moment with other things, but I'll try and get to that if no one else does.
 Just completed an Upgrade from Kinetic to Lunar - bare metal using TUI - all good no errors — :)
 "Oh, also, speaking of stuff like..." <- Completed no errors !
[19:50] <arraybolt3> \o/
[19:50] <arraybolt3> OK, debugging ISO build failure.
[19:51] <arraybolt3[m]> rofl.
[19:51] <arraybolt3[m]> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[19:51] <arraybolt3[m]>  pipewire-alsa : Conflicts: pulseaudio but 1:16.1+dfsg1-2ubuntu3 is to be installed
[19:51] <arraybolt3[m]>  pipewire-audio : Conflicts: pulseaudio but 1:16.1+dfsg1-2ubuntu3 is to be installed
[19:51] <arraybolt3[m]> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[19:51] <arraybolt3[m]> Now we're in the same spot that Ubuntu MATE was in not too long ago.
[19:52] <arraybolt3> Welp, guess that means we're going to probably be switching some deps around.
[19:52] <arraybolt3> At any rate, I'll mark the upgrade bug as Fix Released.
[19:57] <arraybolt3[m]> Offender located, it's pavucontrol-qt. Looks like I just need to switch pulseaudio | pipewire-pulse around backwards and we'll be in business.
[19:57] <arraybolt3[m]> That will affect us, Kubuntu, and Ubuntu Studio though.
[19:58] <arraybolt3> I know we'll be OK with that, not sure if that will work for the other two though.
[19:59] <Eickmeyer> arraybolt3: Ubuntu Studio hasn't been affected, so you might be crawling up the wrong  tree.
[19:59] <arraybolt3> Eickmeyer: I mean changing those deps will affect a package that you seed.
[19:59] <arraybolt3> And I don't know enough about how your packages work to know if that's going to mess you up or not.
[19:59] <Eickmeyer> arraybolt3: What I'm saying is that I doubt that is pulling-in pulseaudio for you.
[19:59] <arraybolt3> Eickmeyer: I mean I'm looking right at it in the logs.
[19:59] <arraybolt3> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/659373791/buildlog_ubuntu_lunar_amd64_lubuntu_BUILDING.txt.gz
[20:00] <arraybolt3> And I know it's pavucontrol-qt doing it because I just did a scan of all of the packages depended on and recommended by lubuntu-desktop and pavucontrol-qt is the only one that has the "pulseaudio | pipewire-pulse" thingy in it.
[20:01] <arraybolt3> Then again, Kubuntu and Studio both use pipewire-pulse by default, right?
[20:01] <Eickmeyer> What I'm saying is that if it were the cause, it would be doing that for Kubuntu and Ubuntu Studio as well.
[20:01] <Eickmeyer> Yes.
[20:01] <Eickmeyer> pipewire-pulse is in the pre-seeds, FYI, so that it avoids these issues.
[20:01] <arraybolt3> Eickmeyer: What you may be missing is that neither you nor Kubuntu have pipewire-alsa seeded.
[20:01] <arraybolt3> We do.
[20:02] <arraybolt3> (Via pipewire-audio.)
[20:02] <arraybolt3> At least that's my current understanding of things.
[20:02] <Eickmeyer> That's correct, and that might be a factor. However, Ubuntu Studio has ubuntustudio-pipewire-config which has Breaks: pulseaudio.
[20:03] <arraybolt3> Hrm. \
[20:03] <arraybolt3> s/\\//
[20:03] <Eickmeyer> I'm not against the change, I'm just saying that might not be the factor.
[20:04] <arraybolt3> Well now I'm interested in why Studio isn't broken :P Isn't this what went south with Ubuntu MATE? They had pipewire-pulse and pulseaudio both getting pulled in and it broke the build, which is what it seems like is happening now.
[20:04] <arraybolt3> We used to seed pipewire-alsa directly, which I guess gave Geminate enough info to keep Pulseaudio out of things.
[20:04] <arraybolt3> But that broke upgrades, so we switched to the pipewire-audio metapackage, and now Geminate is trying to pull in conflicting stuff.
[20:05] <arraybolt3> So maybe ubuntustudio-pipewire-config gives Germinate enough info to keep from going haywire?
[20:05] <Eickmeyer> That and having pipewire-pulse in the preseeds.
[20:05] <arraybolt3> That makes sense.
[20:06] <arraybolt3> Sigh. The real solution here would be for Germinate to work better :P
[20:06] <Eickmeyer> I honestly think the entire issue is a bug in germinate.
[20:07] <arraybolt3> Agreed fully. But hey, it is what it is. If Kubuntu and Studio both use pipewire-pulse, then switching that dependency is probably harmless.
[20:07] <arraybolt3> I'mma try it (maybe ask for your help with it if I can't upload directly) and then try a rebuild.
[20:08] <arraybolt3> Nice, I can upload it myself.
[20:09] <Eickmeyer> Sweet.
[20:21] -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Unapproved: pavucontrol-qt (lunar-proposed/universe) [1.2.0-1ubuntu2 => 1.2.0-1ubuntu3] (kubuntu, lubuntu)
[20:26] <Eickmeyer> arraybolt3: Looking at the diff, they might be OK with this, but since we're post beta freeze you might think about attaching a bug report to every upload just to make sure you've done due dilligence.
[20:27] <arraybolt3> That's a good point. Thanks!
[23:17] <arraybolt3> The new pavucontrol-qt is out, but it's only been out for 8 minutes. Me thinks I should wait a tad longer before triggering an ISO respin.
 yes you should
[23:51] <arraybolt3> 42 minutes now. Sound like a good time for pressing the button?
[23:52]  * arraybolt3 pushes