=== guiverc2 is now known as guiverc [08:48] Hello there [08:48] Is this irc chat is about Linux Xubuntu? [08:50] Tomasm21: yep [08:50] hi [08:50] !topic | Tomasm21 [08:50] Tomasm21: Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic [08:52] I have just installed Xubuntu onto PC along with Win10. This time not onto VM. Internet speed unlike on VM reaches full 1 gbps. [08:52] Programs respond faster than on vm [08:52] Tomasm21, that's the way to go [08:54] However I'm not satisfied how music plays on rhythmbox. All file formats. Also music onto mozilla firefox on youtube.. AUDIO is stuttering. And on the upper right corner of the screen Audio slider keeps appearing [08:54] I have just installed it. [08:54] Is this due to audio drivers? [08:54] ]Or codecs missing? [08:56] usual videos play onto parabole media player. But: [08:56] Sometimes the player unexpectedly crashes. Sometimes movie fail to render when selecting any movie region with slider. Sometimes audio plays but movie video is stuck. Is this because Linux is unable to do it right? [08:56] [4:25 AM] [08:56] I suppose there are no problems with codecs. Otherwise there would be no any video or audio. [08:57] How to solve problems video AUDIO? [08:57] and video. [08:57] Why it keeps stuttering? [08:57] on playback [09:01] I thought during installation process it iunstalled all audio/video drivers properly. And codecs. [09:01] Should I try to do it separately? [09:03] Tomasm21, what is your gpu? [09:03] geforce 980 gtx [09:03] on windows everything works perfectly [09:04] Thouigh I remember when I installed Win10 it also had problems with audio stutering [09:04] with proprietary driver? [09:04] I don't know of its drivers. [09:05] did you install nvidia driver? [09:05] But as I rememebr I explicitly was searcing for motherboard and other drivers on windows. [09:05] In time the problem solved itself and the audio stopped stuttering [09:05] maybe because of auto-updates [09:06] Tomasm21: This sounds to me like the device loses its audio device and gets it again [09:06] !paste [09:06] For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://dpaste.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [09:07] maybe do the same (play audio, wait for stuff to happen). Then open a terminal, run the command `dmesg` and paste it [09:07] On Xubuntu yesterday right after installing I opened Software & Updates and tab Additional drivers. It found a list of NVIDIA drivers. I pressed only the first one and then button "Apply changes". It installed it. But it didn't helped [09:08] I have just opened Software & Updates window and tab Additional drivers. It found similar list of NVIDIA drivers again. [09:08] Tomasm21, do you also have an intel integrated GPU? [09:09] Yes I also have intel integrated GPU. [09:09] I don't know what exactly Xubuntu is using [09:11] Tomasm21, then open nvidia settings [09:11] check in there what's being used [09:11] How to open nvidia settings? [09:11] from menu [09:13] Tomasm21, also gnrp asked you to pastebin dmesg, open terminal and run: dmesg | nc termbin.com 999 [09:13] you gonna get an url in terminal, copy it and paste here. [09:14] alright.. trying to do this. [09:14] if you encounter any issues just ask. [09:16] https://imgur.com/LFuZrZA.png [09:17] Tomasm21, and as you are a new user, don't be afraid of terminal, many new users think that Linux is difficult because you need to use terminal and run commnds but that's not a valid argument anymore, you can perfectly use Linux without any terminal whatsoever, for normal users it's only relevant when you encounter some issues and you need to troubleshoot, the same way in windows you need to tweak some registers keys when [09:17] you encounter some issues and so on, but if you learn terminal you will actually find it more useable and a more productive way to do stuff. [09:18] Tomasm21, ok run the same command but with sudo oike this: sudo dmesg | nc termbin.com 9999 [09:19] you gonna be asked for a password, ype your password and hit enter and keep in mind the password is not displayed in the terminal. [09:19] like* [09:19] yes I ran it with sudo. [09:20] It didn't showed anything in console [09:20] you need to add an extra 9 there, 9999 at the and instead of 999 [09:21] oh 9999 [09:22] https://termbin.com/qj9b [09:23] Tomasm21, ok now open the menu and look for nvidia settings and open it. [09:25] gnrp, his dmesg: https://termbin.com/qj9b [09:29] the menu has no exaxctly "nvidia settings" [09:30] Tomasm21: I guess this is the offending line [09:30] [ 2411.120823] usb 3-3: reset high-speed USB device number 2 using xhci_hcd [09:31] what audio card do you use, anyway? [09:31] Tomasm21, ok again in terminal run: inxi -Gxxc0 | nc termbin.com 9999 [09:31] then: inxi -Axxc0 | nc termbin.com 9999 [09:32] so we gonna get both video and audio devices. [09:32] I can't say what audio card is exactlly. I think Realtek some variant.. as I rememeber from Wndows. [09:32] I can check there again [09:32] ok running the command [09:33] https://termbin.com/jz2dd [09:34] My processor is not Intel Xeon. [09:34] It's Intel i5 3.2 4460 GHz [09:34] 3.2 Ghz, 4460 processor release number [09:38] software updater window of additional drivers: https://imgur.com/tKifctu.png [09:38] Tomasm21, i also had some audio issues when using pipewire so my advice is to disable pipewire and test with pulse only but maybe gnrp has a better idea. [09:40] Yesterday I installed "Using NVIDIA driver metapackage from nvidia-driver-525 (proprietary, tested)". But today I see this line again [09:41] I don't know what is pipewire or pulse [09:41] I have audio issues both on internal linux audio player and on mozilla firefox browser [09:42] Tomasm21, run in terminal: sudo systemctl disable --global pipewire [09:42] But when I watch movies on Parole media center then Movie audio plays fluently [09:42] but videos itseld doesn;t work well. [09:45] it writes that it removed pipewire.socked and pipewire.service. I will try to launch audio file again. Should I also reboot the OS? [09:45] currebtly it still is stuttering. [09:45] Tomasm21, i'd reboot. [09:45] rebooting.. [09:52] Nor pipewire off nor rebooting helped [09:53] Tomasm21, run: inxi -Axxc0 | nc termbin.com 9999 [09:53] Audio's stuttering. Here is the the image of the OS screen. In the upper right corner this audio slider banner notification keeps appearing when sound audio is stuttering: https://imgur.com/xY13zQG.png [09:55] https://termbin.com/jwuo [09:58] I can go to windows and launch Speccy program to show all system devices information. Copy it and come to Linux there and paste here in HexChat. [09:59] Tomasm21, open a web browser and just drag-and-drop the audio file into the browser window, see if it is playing well there, [10:00] Oh I'm impressed that it is possible. It plays on the web browser. But sound still keeps stuttering. [10:01] Can you tell what terminal command is to find information about motherboard type and model? [10:01] As I remmeber smth like Z97 or smth [10:04] oh it is dmidecode -t 2 [10:04] Tomasm21, for full system info run: inxi -Fxx [10:06] https://termbin.com/1gad [10:07] What I think is that I need this driver: https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/GA-Z97-HD3-rev-21/support#support-dl-driver [10:08] specifically for my motherboard. I remember I explicitly installed it on Windows back then [10:08] but audio was still stuttering on Windows. [10:08] but in time it stopped [10:09] BUT it is Windows driver [10:09] not Linux [10:11] Tomasm21, ok let's try a few tricks if you have time? [10:11] lets [10:12] run: cat /etc/pulse/daemon.conf | nc termbin.com 9999 [10:14] https://termbin.com/56kd [10:17] Tomasm21, now run: pkexec env DISPLAY=$DISPLAY XAUTHORITY=$XAUTHORITY mousepad /etc/pulse/daemon.conf [10:21] ok launched. It opened text in mousepad [10:22] It warns me that ot runs in root and I may harm my system [10:23] Tomasm21, carefully add at the end of that file these few lines: https://privatebin.io/?b561460ebde394cd#DS93jyzfvhx45GmfqLDaFUSnuRaMPAHP1HwK1PaU9y4m [10:24] Should I add semicilons in fron of each line? [10:24] https://imgur.com/WBbIv2o.png [10:24] semicolons* [10:26] nope just save changes and close the file. [10:26] ok saved and closed? [10:26] Should I launch music? [10:26] now run this: pulseaudio -k [10:27] ok launched [10:27] ok check audio [10:28] still stuttering [10:29] stuttering process is this: it jumps to full sound level but also simultaneosly the sound gets muted. Then sound level is reset. [10:29] It all happens in miliseconds [10:29] it feels like some contact is mufunctioning [10:30] malfunctioning [10:30] but on Windows 10 everything works perfectly [10:30] I installed Xubuntu in dual boot [10:34] Tomasm21, ok our last attempt is to go the othe way around and replace pulse with pipewire completely, [10:35] be advise that I can't find nvidia settings [10:36] Should I install all additional drivers that are found in Software & Updates? [10:37] Tomasm21, let's not bother about nvidia for now. [10:37] 1 proprietary driver is in use [10:37] ok tell me what to do [10:37] run: sudo apt install pipewire-audio-client-libraries [10:38] I will keep doing listening stutering music playback [10:38] tell me when done. [10:39] done [10:39] sudo apt install wireplumber pipewire-media-session- [10:40] installed [10:41] sudo cp /usr/share/doc/pipewire/examples/alsa.conf.d/99-pipewire-default.conf /etc/alsa/conf.d/ [10:44] copied [10:44] sudo systemctl --global --now enable pipewire pipewire-pulse && systemctl --user --now enable wireplumber.service [10:47] https://imgur.com/3wdjR0N.png [10:48] sudo systemctl --global --now enable wireplumber.service [10:49] https://imgur.com/4nPlP47.png [10:50] sudo mkdir -p /etc/pipewire [10:51] created directory [10:51] sudo cp /usr/share/pipewire/pipewire.conf /etc/pipewire/ [10:53] copied [10:53] cat /etc/pipewire/pipewire.conf | nc termbin.com 9999 [10:54] https://termbin.com/vvgn [10:55] pkexec env DISPLAY=$DISPLAY XAUTHORITY=$XAUTHORITY mousepad /etc/pipewire/pipewire.conf [10:57] opened [10:57] find there a line: ## Properties for the DSP configuration. below that line find: default.clock.min-quantum = 16 [10:58] comment out this line so it reads: #default.clock.min-quantum = 16 [10:59] found and commented [10:59] to save and close? [10:59] and just below the line: ## Properties for the DSP configuration add the following: https://privatebin.io/?ad4ed205c6a22ef3#A9211jTDqnCFmUoLwixWpfGUQ7uvRtRDLa8gH4vsCabA [11:01] like this: https://imgur.com/LMbDQpN.png [11:01] ? [11:01] no, i mean not the link itself but you need to open the link and copy its context. [11:02] ahh [11:02] i suspect you did the same thing with pulseaudio config? :) [11:02] my bad sorry, i should have explained better. [11:03] https://imgur.com/mres39T.png [11:03] My bad sorry I should have understood such an easy idea [11:03] save and close? [11:03] save, close, reboot. [11:16] Now it's even worse. It is stuttering. But upon any stutter the pipewire jumps from one device to the other and stays there. I mean the device is changed from the "Built-In Audio Analog Stereo" to the "GM204 High Definition Audio Controller Digital Stereo (HDMI2)". And audio cannot be heard on that device. [11:17] I manually chhange back to "Built-In Audio Analog Stereo" [11:17] ok let's see if you your pulse config: cat /etc/pulse/daemon.conf | nc termbin.com 9999 [11:17] And audio can be heard. But as soon as stutter occurs it jumps back to "GM204 High Definition Audio Controller Digital Stereo (HDMI2)". [11:19] When I rebooted I also visited Windows 10 and made sure that sound does not stutter on that system. [11:19] ok executing your command, hold on.. [11:20] https://termbin.com/nohs [11:21] sudo apt purge pipewire wireplumber [11:22] purged [11:23] pkexec env DISPLAY=$DISPLAY XAUTHORITY=$XAUTHORITY mousepad /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf [11:24] tell me if it's an empty file [11:25] yes the file is empty [11:25] write there: options snd_hda_intel position_fix=1 [11:25] save, close. [11:26] huh? [11:26] https://imgur.com/hUvExeY.png [11:28] it happened when I tried to save [11:28] ok mousepad is not nano ) pich save as instead [11:29] save it in /etc/modprobe.d/ with the name alsa-base.conf [11:30] just before saving look: https://imgur.com/wp7G2E7.png [11:30] in that directory I see that the file exists and occupies 2.5 kb [11:30] how is this possible? [11:30] should I still save? [11:32] yep [11:33] ok I replaced it [11:33] cat /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf [11:33] make sure you see options snd_hda_intel position_fix=1 [11:35] I just don't understand: https://imgur.com/EYaLJy8.png [11:35] we saved it [11:35] but it doesn't exist [11:35] music is playing [11:36] is music destroying thhe file? [11:36] there is modrobe instead of modorobe [11:36] modprobe* [11:36] you missed a p [11:37] ahhh.. sorry. My bad. A typo [11:37] there is line: `options snd_hda_intel position_fix=1` [11:37] now run: mv ~/.config/pulse/ ~/.config/pulse.old [11:39] ok I hope renamed [11:39] mv ~/.config/pavucontrol.ini ~/.config/pavucontrol.ini.bak [11:40] whenever you get no output after running acommand, it mostly means that the command was successful. [11:42] I tried not to make mistakes: https://imgur.com/Ju8FmRX.png [11:42] I think the last command has no typos [11:44] hmm does it mean you have no pavucontrol? run: dpkg -l | grep pavu [11:44] do you get anything? [11:45] https://imgur.com/A7JfpQH.png [11:45] ok then, run this: sudo update-initramfs -u [11:46] after it's done, fingers crossed and reboot. [11:47] wait a few more things let's change before you reboot. [11:47] ok it "update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-5.19.0-38-generic" [11:47] rebooting.. [11:47] wait [11:47] yes? [11:47] a few more things [11:47] ok [11:48] pkexec env DISPLAY=$DISPLAY XAUTHORITY=$XAUTHORITY mousepad /etc/pulse/daemon.conf [11:49] make sure the lines: ;realtime-scheduling ;default-fragments and ;default-fragment-size-msec all have ; in front of them. [11:50] only the last ones don't have. [11:50] you gonna encounter 2 occurences. [11:53] Yes those three entries have semicilons in front. Acknowledged [11:53] at the end of that file append: realtime-scheduling = yes [11:53] closed the file [11:53] reopening [11:54] https://imgur.com/eFdWgkV.png [11:54] I hope this looks fine [11:54] saving.. [11:55] now run: pkexec env DISPLAY=$DISPLAY XAUTHORITY=$XAUTHORITY mousepad /etc/pulse/default.pa find the line: load-module module-udev-detect and at the end add: tsched=0 so it reads: load-module module-udev-detect tsched=0 [11:55] you can just hit arrow up in terminal and just delete the path and add a new one. [11:56] instead of typing everything, or just copy/paste. [11:56] yes I opened it fast changing the ending line. the file name [11:58] you mean like this: https://imgur.com/sS2idNx.png [11:58] ? [11:59] confirm and I save and close [11:59] yes now: s,c,r (save, close, reboot) [11:59] rebooting.. [12:03] diogenes... [12:04] You endeavours will not forgotten. Xubuntu system now does not should stutter notifications. But.. [12:05] I still hear stuttering in audio saound [12:05] maybe less than before [12:05] but still [12:05] or I think like it [12:05] does not show notifications* [12:06] The sound is not crystal clear like in Windows 10 [12:06] Tomasm21, so something has improved a bit, you can try this too: env DISPLAY=$DISPLAY XAUTHORITY=$XAUTHORITY mousepad /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf [12:06] and change from =1 to =2 [12:08] Sound is like from an old record player of vanilla LPs. Crackles can be heard in audio. But Xubunti does not show it [12:08] ok doing commands again [12:08] Sometimes the sound is good [12:09] but sometimes with crackles [12:12] ok setting to: "options snd_hda_intel position_fix=2" [12:12] saved. closed [12:12] sudo update-initramfs -u [12:14] after it's done, reboot [12:14] updated initramfs [12:14] rebotting.. [12:22] Now stutter still occurs but it is a bit lighter. By my subjective opinion music sound is slightly better and more clear. Unlike before stutter this stutter cause audio volume bar not to jump by half length forward and mute. This one stutter causes sound handle tremble in place. It suddenly jumps in low amplitude. [12:23] But sound change notification icon shows again [12:23] in the upp right corner [12:24] I blame the audio driver [12:26] Tomasm21, yeah, at this point i can only suggest you try a newer kernel aslo =1 option seems better. [12:27] should I change the "options snd_hda_intel position_fix=2" to "options snd_hda_intel position_fix=1"? [12:27] yes, that's a better option i suppose. [12:28] and again to do sudo update-initramfs -u [12:28] ? [12:28] and reboot? [12:28] first try an hwe kernel [12:28] tell me how [12:30] run: apt search linux-generic-hwe | nc termbin.com 9999 [12:31] https://termbin.com/udnk [12:32] also run here in the chat: /exec uname -r [12:32] I see line 5.19.0-38-generic [12:33] I don't know what it means [12:33] wait.. [12:33] lol it's your line [12:35] should instead or uname I write my Nick Name? [12:35] of* [12:35] Tomasm21, no no you did all fine. [12:37] looks like you are laready using it, let's try a ninja kernel if you want. [12:37] I'm not sure. [12:37] If it will sort things out [12:37] then yes [12:38] one more thing i suggest to go to BIOS, see if secure boot is eanble and if yes then disable it. [12:39] sometimes it can cause troubles. [12:39] I think it is ON [12:39] I;m using UEFI firmware [12:39] ok reboting and pressing DEL to get into formware [12:39] if I will find that it is ON [12:40] I will turn it off, save and exit and reboot [12:40] you can use UEFI without secure boot, i'm not saying that disabling it will fix your issue but it's better with it disabled. [12:40] I see [13:19] diogenes_Vx15 I'm not sure whether my Secure Boot is enabled. Here is what I found out: https://imgur.com/a/vuKiSsN [13:19] Windows8 features and Boot Mode [13:50] I rebooted again and got into uefi classic mode. Selected windows 8 boot option and then saw there Secure Boot state was set to disabled. But another option "Secure Boot" was with enabled. I changed it to "Disabled." [13:51] Then I changed Windows 8 Features to Other Os. [13:51] Saved and rebooted. [13:51] I suppose the Secure Boot is off. Though I'm not sure. [13:52] But audio playback still stutters. [13:54] If you have any ideas or solutions, hit me up. I am on Discord too: Tomasm21#6237 [14:02] hej my harddrive is almost full n the computer is rly slow [14:02] delete data on drive [14:02] 68g/480g [14:03] im pretty sure its not "my" files [14:03] move to the cloud [14:03] or another disk drive [14:03] no i think it is a dump [14:04] then I dunno [14:04] how can i know which n where the files that taking up space is? [14:07] ok it seem to b in var log [14:08] uvcdynctrl-udev.log 243,4 GB [14:08] if you know that the drive is almost full then you should find out what takes space [14:09] Or maybe you have some extra space which can be unallocated [14:09] you could extend it do Linux drive [14:10] idk what that mean but whats the command to delete the log manualy [14:10] rm uvcdynctrl-udev.log [14:13] yeah but whats the whole filename [14:14] path to it slash filename [14:15] sudo rm? [14:16] to find its path use: find . -name ‘file*' where file is your log filename [14:16] if the file is in root folder or in the folder that is higher than you [14:16] then yes [14:16] with sudo [14:16] i cant copy pase in command [14:16] write it by hand [14:17] you can select and hit ctrl+c and it will still be copied [14:19] ok it sem to b just the /var/log n not home/ [14:20] it says access dinied [14:22] try with sudo [14:23] ok mayb i deleted a few but it still says 289.3 GiB USED [14:23] yes i did! [14:24] Do you have a program Called "Disk Usage Analyzer"? Launch it and it will show what program or file takes what space [14:24] Or smth similar program [14:25] that was the only tool i could use to se space but i turned it off now n turned it on maybe its gone [14:25] If imporatnt files then don't delete. You need either bigger disk or extra disk partition [14:25] download [14:25] no [14:26] you should know how to solve this quite common problem [14:26] ok thnx 😊 [14:27] looked like the usb did 75 itself 🤪 [14:27] :) [14:27] 🙇‍♂️ [16:36] diogenes? [16:38] During that time I did my own improvements and updates. It ruined your built configuration. The system started to stutter and show notifications like the first time. Then I read again what you wrote in the past and did all those actions with pipewire and pulse. [16:39] I got rid of pipewire and edited pulse how you said. [16:39] Tomasm21, and? [16:39] I changed to that point when Linux does not show stuttering notifications [16:39] But still in the sound some stutters can be heard [16:40] And I don't know what to do next and to improve [16:40] I tried to search the Internet [16:40] and got articles which explain same actions that you offered to me [16:40] as i suggested, you can try another kernel. [16:42] I am afraid to do this. And I don't know how exactly. I would like that you lead me. But if you don't want then it's ok [16:42] Just I need trusted information where it is clearly explained how to change kernels [16:42] Should I google it? [16:42] Or you can point me to it [16:43] Tomasm21, of course i can help you but first i need to ask you a few questions. [16:43] ALso I doubt whether that kernel will certainly be better than thus [16:43] current [16:44] first i need to know who installed this Xubuntu system for you? yourself or someone else? [16:44] IMO chaninging kernel means installing another Linux distribution [16:44] no [16:44] And I would like stick with Xubuntu [16:45] I installed myself. When I was studying Java programming we worked on Xubuntu [16:45] but not on real Xubuntu but on Oracle Virtaul Drive [16:45] it was real VM Xuvuntu 20.04 [16:46] Now when I;m at home I decided to continue with real Xubuntu on real METAL along with Windows on dual boot [16:46] Instead of using older Xubuntu 20.04.2LTE.iso [16:47] I downloaded newest 22.04LTE [16:47] and installed it reading and wathcing tutorials on the Internet [16:47] and I havne't expected that so [16:48] such features like sound can work bad [16:48] so you installed it and in case something goes wrong with the new kernel and it won't boot, would you be able to reinstall the system? [16:48] Thought I knew that Linux may perform worse than Windows 10 [16:49] I solely trusted Xubuntu. I didn;t knew that new kernel may not work perfectly [16:50] Maybe I should download older ISO [16:50] of 20.04 [16:50] I can reinstall older [16:50] I can go to Windows and to Disk Manager and delete these disk partitions where current Linux is installed [16:51] Linux does not perform worse but quite the opposite, it's some hardware manufacturers who don't want to support Linux so it's not a Linux issue. [16:51] then make space unalloacted 100 GB and install older Xubintu [16:52] mmm hardware manufacturers.. [16:52] Pain to hear it [16:52] and I started to like Linux [16:54] ok so it's up to you whether you want to try or not. [16:55] lets do it [16:55] I'm playing with Linux till it works as good as possible [16:55] Ho un problema con il bluetooh su xubuntu. Non mi trova i dispositivi [16:55] only don't destroy Windows partition [16:56] !it | ITA_x [16:56]