| sarnold | good morning | 14:30 |
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| eslerm | good morning | 14:30 |
| slyon | hello o/ | 14:30 |
| didrocks | hello | 14:31 |
| cpaelzer_ | hellu | 14:32 |
| joalif | hey | 14:32 |
| cpaelzer_ | getting to the copy and paste source .... | 14:33 |
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| cpaelzer | #startmeeting Weekly Main Inclusion Requests status | 14:33 |
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| cpaelzer | Ping for MIR meeting - didrocks joalif slyon sarnold cpaelzer jamespage eslerm | 14:33 |
| cpaelzer | almost all of you were already here \o/ | 14:33 |
| cpaelzer | #topic current component mismatches | 14:33 |
| cpaelzer | Mission: Identify required actions and spread the load among the teams | 14:33 |
| cpaelzer | #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches-proposed.svg | 14:33 |
| cpaelzer | #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches.svg | 14:33 |
| dviererbe | Hello o/ | 14:34 |
| cpaelzer | hi dviererbe | 14:34 |
| cpaelzer | jamespage: if you are around, jaraco/pytohn-inflect still needs to be resolved | 14:34 |
| cpaelzer | unless you do not care about the new version migrating - which might be fine given how frozen the release is by now | 14:35 |
| eslerm | (where is the source code that generates the component svgs?) | 14:35 |
| cpaelzer | wow - so many pings | 14:36 |
| cpaelzer | sorry for the delay | 14:36 |
| cpaelzer | that is a side effect or follow up to germinate | 14:37 |
| cpaelzer | I tracked it down once but do not have the pointer ready | 14:37 |
| cpaelzer | does someone else have it right away? | 14:37 |
| sarnold | heh I can't find ~ubuntu-archive on people.canonical.com, this is a proper tangent :D | 14:38 |
| cpaelzer | eslerm: we can find out for you | 14:38 |
| cpaelzer | but maybe not right now in the meeting | 14:38 |
| eslerm | thank you | 14:38 |
| cpaelzer | #topic New MIRs | 14:39 |
| cpaelzer | Mission: ensure to assign all incoming reviews for fast processing | 14:39 |
| cpaelzer | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&assignee_option=none&field.assignee=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir | 14:39 |
| didrocks | ((yeah, can’t find it anymore either) | 14:39 |
| didrocks | happy blank page :) | 14:39 |
| cpaelzer | all of us have looked at it once | 14:39 |
| cpaelzer | trying to eliminate the false positives | 14:39 |
| cpaelzer | thought into it | 14:39 |
| cpaelzer | went crazy | 14:39 |
| cpaelzer | and that made us forget all that there is | 14:39 |
| cpaelzer | no new bugs btw | 14:40 |
| cpaelzer | \o/ | 14:40 |
| cpaelzer | #topic Incomplete bugs / questions | 14:40 |
| cpaelzer | Mission: Identify required actions and spread the load among the teams | 14:40 |
| cpaelzer | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir | 14:40 |
| cpaelzer | only slyon explaining the inetutils case | 14:41 |
| cpaelzer | slyon: are you looking for help on this | 14:41 |
| slyon | I was wondering if cpaelzer or didrocks maybe know an answer to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/inetutils/+bug/2008789/comments/19? | 14:41 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 2008789 in inetutils (Ubuntu) "[MIR] inetutils-telnet" [Undecided, Incomplete] | 14:41 | |
| cpaelzer | *reading the last update* | 14:41 |
| cpaelzer | it is correctly in universe | 14:41 |
| cpaelzer | I checkd inetutils-ftpd which you used as example | 14:42 |
| cpaelzer | you can see that in rmadison and other sources | 14:42 |
| slyon | otherwise we could mark that one "fix released", but this could lead to us accidentally pulling in some of the other inetutils-* binaries in the future (which didn't get security review) | 14:42 |
| slyon | yes, everything is in the place it's supposed to be | 14:42 |
| cpaelzer | listed in the extra seed is not equal to "be in main" or "be seeded" | 14:42 |
| slyon | but we wanted to install some kind of stop-gap to avoid us making mistakes in the future | 14:42 |
| sarnold | aha! | 14:42 |
| slyon | as the situation is a bit special, in that we only have a single binary package in main | 14:42 |
| cpaelzer | we had this before | 14:43 |
| cpaelzer | and still have in other cases | 14:43 |
| cpaelzer | I'm afraid that is down to the discipline of the archive admins | 14:43 |
| cpaelzer | before promoting a random binary to check the MIR that got it added | 14:43 |
| cpaelzer | which was the reason why we changed our template a few years ago to list this explicitly | 14:43 |
| cpaelzer | to make it easier | 14:43 |
| didrocks | yeah, I don’t see it before different (you can argue also that any binary package can grow and ship any new binaries in the same package without that discipline) | 14:44 |
| cpaelzer | yep | 14:44 |
| cpaelzer | so slyon, for your case I'd say call it "fix released" ? | 14:44 |
| slyon | wfm | 14:44 |
| cpaelzer | ok | 14:44 |
| cpaelzer | there is one more | 14:44 |
| dviererbe | \o/ | 14:44 |
| cpaelzer | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/isc-kea/+bug/2002861 | 14:44 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 2002861 in isc-kea (Ubuntu) "[MIR] promote isc-kea to main" [Undecided, In Progress] | 14:44 | |
| cpaelzer | slyon + sarnold : that should now be all right - correct? | 14:45 |
| cpaelzer | 2003549 + 2003549 both LGTM | 14:46 |
| sarnold | comment #12 suggests there's still an outstanding step | 14:46 |
| cpaelzer | that has been done | 14:46 |
| cpaelzer | that other case is also ready | 14:46 |
| cpaelzer | here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/log4cplus/+bug/2003549 | 14:47 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 2003549 in log4cplus (Ubuntu) "[MIR] promote log4cplus to main as a isc-kea dependency" [Undecided, In Progress] | 14:47 | |
| slyon | looking | 14:47 |
| cpaelzer | while your are looking, let me move over to the next section | 14:48 |
| cpaelzer | #topic Process/Documentation improvements | 14:48 |
| cpaelzer | Mission: Review pending process/documentation pull-requests or issues | 14:48 |
| cpaelzer | #link https://github.com/canonical/ubuntu-mir/pulls | 14:48 |
| sarnold | the other thing that worried me was the default rest api, but it looks like andreas got that ages ago :) | 14:48 |
| cpaelzer | #link https://github.com/canonical/ubuntu-mir/issues | 14:48 |
| cpaelzer | one PR up https://github.com/canonical/ubuntu-mir/pull/15 | 14:49 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Pull 15 in canonical/ubuntu-mir "require a single Launchpad bug for each MIR request" [Open] | 14:49 | |
| cpaelzer | sarnold: indeed | 14:49 |
| sarnold | this new PR looks good to me | 14:49 |
| slyon | cpaelzer: yeah, the only "open" issue seems to be #5 on isc-kea (symbols tracking), but there was some discussion and explanation that we'll skip it for this package, due to maintainability, as stated in comment #10. So MIR ACK for isc-kea | 14:50 |
| cpaelzer | yep, thanks for adding the example as siggested | 14:50 |
| cpaelzer | thanks slyon | 14:50 |
| cpaelzer | slyon: I updated the kea cases to ask for the seed changes | 14:50 |
| cpaelzer | ok, all seem to be happy with the PR | 14:50 |
| cpaelzer | merging it now ... | 14:50 |
| eslerm | thank you | 14:51 |
| sarnold | \o/. | 14:51 |
| cpaelzer | stop me now or stay silent forever | 14:51 |
| didrocks | (crickets…) | 14:51 |
| cpaelzer | #topic MIR related Security Review Queue | 14:51 |
| cpaelzer | Mission: Check on progress, do deadlines seem doable? | 14:51 |
| cpaelzer | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-security/+bugs?field.searchtext=%5BMIR%5D&assignee_option=choose&field.assignee=ubuntu-security&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir | 14:51 |
| sarnold | web 2.0 is neat, it's fun to see the little icon change live :) | 14:51 |
| cpaelzer | Internal link | 14:51 |
| cpaelzer | - ensure your teams items are prioritized among each other as you'd expect | 14:51 |
| cpaelzer | - ensure community requests do not get stomped by teams calling for favors too much | 14:51 |
| cpaelzer | #link https://warthogs.atlassian.net/jira/software/c/projects/SEC/boards/594 | 14:51 |
| cpaelzer | aren't we at 4.0 at least? | 14:51 |
| sarnold | hehe | 14:51 |
| cpaelzer | all ours for this cycle are done | 14:52 |
| cpaelzer | so for once in ages I'll not friendly-complain | 14:52 |
| didrocks | you will unfriendly-complain then? :p | 14:52 |
| cpaelzer | any other team having issues in this that you have concerns about | 14:52 |
| cpaelzer | no, "friendly thank the security team" | 14:53 |
| didrocks | \o/ | 14:53 |
| cpaelzer | ok, no one seems to have a case to bring up here | 14:53 |
| cpaelzer | at least today | 14:53 |
| * sarnold swaps the photo of cpaelzer on the monitor | 14:53 | |
| cpaelzer | unless seb128 who joined wanted to bring something up | 14:53 |
| cpaelzer | #topic Any other business? | 14:53 |
| sarnold | yes, two items here | 14:53 |
| cpaelzer | nothing from me / server-team right now | 14:54 |
| seb128 | no, I just mean every week to join just to check what's going on and be there for questions | 14:54 |
| seb128 | and I keep forgetting, Didier changed a bug status which acted as reminder :p | 14:54 |
| cpaelzer | ok sarnold, go for them | 14:54 |
| cpaelzer | seb128: hehe | 14:54 |
| sarnold | first, I suspect this team needs some changes https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mir/+members | 14:54 |
| seb128 | as a FYI we will put dbus-broker in the review queue soon, we would like to transition from dbus-daemon to it next cycle | 14:54 |
| seb128 | that probably impact server and others so take it as a FYI and talk to us if you have concerns | 14:55 |
| cpaelzer | sarnold: indeed | 14:55 |
| cpaelzer | doko: would you ok to make me admin there so that I can fix this up fron now on without bothering you? | 14:55 |
| seb128 | (security team gave us a +1 on the apparmor integration front, there is a changeset ready upstream) | 14:55 |
| cpaelzer | feel free to answer later if you are not around | 14:55 |
| slyon | seb128: nice! | 14:56 |
| cpaelzer | seb128: is there a link on the conceptual changes that are to be expected if the two names do not immediately click for us? | 14:56 |
| sarnold | okay, second issue, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wpebackend-fdo/+bug/1973033 -- there's a jammy task open on this older MIR, and I'm afraid this has fallen off our radar | 14:56 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 1973033 in wpebackend-fdo (Ubuntu Jammy) "[MIR] wpebackend-fdo" [High, Incomplete] | 14:56 | |
| seb128 | cpaelzer, https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/DbusBrokerAsTheDefaultDbusImplementation | 14:56 |
| seb128 | basically replacing one dbus server implementation by a better alternative other distro already use | 14:57 |
| slyon | cpaelzer: AFAIU it should be pretty much a drop-in replacement for dbus-daemon | 14:57 |
| seb128 | it should have any visible impact | 14:57 |
| seb128 | *not* | 14:57 |
| cpaelzer | hehe | 14:57 |
| seb128 | :p | 14:57 |
| cpaelzer | I'd say try to do it early in the cycle so that we have time to spot it | 14:57 |
| seb128 | yes, I plan to queue the MIR request this week | 14:58 |
| cpaelzer | I've also sent a mail to doko for he same topic sarnold brought up | 14:58 |
| cpaelzer | to ensure it isn't missed | 14:58 |
| cpaelzer | thanks seb128, that I consider timely | 14:58 |
| sarnold | seb128: "and makes use of many modern features provided by recent Linux kernel releases" .. will people be able to run eg naughty nightingale dbus-brokers on a bionic lxd host? focal? jammy? | 14:58 |
| seb128 | let's hope that we don't end up being delayed by half a cycle waiting on a security review | 14:58 |
| * sarnold nods | 14:58 | |
| cpaelzer | sarnold: seb128: the case you brought up https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wpebackend-fdo/+bug/1973033 | 14:58 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 1973033 in wpebackend-fdo (Ubuntu Jammy) "[MIR] wpebackend-fdo" [High, Incomplete] | 14:58 | |
| cpaelzer | that was re-reviewed by slyon | 14:59 |
| cpaelzer | seen in comment #11 | 14:59 |
| seb128 | right, I've in my backlog to address those | 14:59 |
| seb128 | sarnold, Linux kernel >= 4.17 is described in this page | 14:59 |
| cpaelzer | ok, so it has not been forgotten | 14:59 |
| cpaelzer | it is incomplete | 14:59 |
| cpaelzer | and the state matches | 14:59 |
| seb128 | but https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libwpe/+bug/1973031 is needed | 14:59 |
| slyon | I think there was another once related, which still needs review from joalif | 14:59 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 1973031 in libwpe (Ubuntu Jammy) "[MIR] libwpe" [Undecided, New] | 14:59 | |
| seb128 | and that wasn't reviewed | 14:59 |
| slyon | this ^ | 14:59 |
| sarnold | seb128: aha, cool, thanks | 14:59 |
| cpaelzer | seb128: just do realize that this is prone to be missed if going back (as the main task is fix released) | 15:00 |
| seb128 | so there is no point to move the other one meanwhile... | 15:00 |
| cpaelzer | seb128: so bring it up here in the meeting if in doubt after you think it is ready | 15:00 |
| seb128 | also as a predicted, that a depends now for new webkitgtk | 15:00 |
| cpaelzer | and that other one is assigned to joalif | 15:00 |
| seb128 | that mdeslaur plans to security update soon | 15:00 |
| cpaelzer | to do the review | 15:00 |
| sarnold | d'oh! I hadn't realized there were two bugs with jammy tasks open :( sorry for the confusion | 15:00 |
| seb128 | he said he would push without blocking on MIR review if needed | 15:00 |
| joalif | oops seems like it fell through the net | 15:00 |
| seb128 | but I let security/MIR sort that out | 15:00 |
| joalif | i'll do it this week | 15:01 |
| cpaelzer | ok, so all is going on well then | 15:01 |
| cpaelzer | thanks | 15:01 |
| cpaelzer | we are out of time | 15:01 |
| sarnold | cool, thanks :) | 15:01 |
| cpaelzer | thank you all | 15:01 |
| sarnold | thanks cpaelzer, seb128, all | 15:01 |
| eslerm | thanks all o/ | 15:01 |
| cpaelzer | I tihnk we are also done for today | 15:01 |
| slyon | thanks all! | 15:01 |
| seb128 | thanks | 15:01 |
| cpaelzer | #endmeeting | 15:01 |
| meetingology | Meeting ended at 15:01:48 UTC. Minutes at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2023/ubuntu-meeting.2023-04-04-14.33.moin.txt | 15:01 |
| dviererbe | Thank you all! | 15:01 |
| didrocks | thanks! | 15:01 |
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| doko | cpaelzer: done | 19:24 |
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