[14:30] good morning [14:30] good morning [14:30] hello o/ [14:31] hello [14:32] hellu [14:32] hey [14:33] getting to the copy and paste source .... === cpaelzer_ is now known as cpaelzer [14:33] #startmeeting Weekly Main Inclusion Requests status [14:33] Meeting started at 14:33:19 UTC. The chair is cpaelzer. Information about MeetBot at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology [14:33] Available commands: action, commands, idea, info, link, nick [14:33] Ping for MIR meeting - didrocks joalif slyon sarnold cpaelzer jamespage eslerm [14:33] almost all of you were already here \o/ [14:33] #topic current component mismatches [14:33] Mission: Identify required actions and spread the load among the teams [14:33] #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches-proposed.svg [14:33] #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches.svg [14:34] Hello o/ [14:34] hi dviererbe [14:34] jamespage: if you are around, jaraco/pytohn-inflect still needs to be resolved [14:35] unless you do not care about the new version migrating - which might be fine given how frozen the release is by now [14:35] (where is the source code that generates the component svgs?) [14:36] wow - so many pings [14:36] sorry for the delay [14:37] that is a side effect or follow up to germinate [14:37] I tracked it down once but do not have the pointer ready [14:37] does someone else have it right away? [14:38] heh I can't find ~ubuntu-archive on people.canonical.com, this is a proper tangent :D [14:38] eslerm: we can find out for you [14:38] but maybe not right now in the meeting [14:38] thank you [14:39] #topic New MIRs [14:39] Mission: ensure to assign all incoming reviews for fast processing [14:39] #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&assignee_option=none&field.assignee=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir [14:39] ((yeah, can’t find it anymore either) [14:39] happy blank page :) [14:39] all of us have looked at it once [14:39] trying to eliminate the false positives [14:39] thought into it [14:39] went crazy [14:39] and that made us forget all that there is [14:40] no new bugs btw [14:40] \o/ [14:40] #topic Incomplete bugs / questions [14:40] Mission: Identify required actions and spread the load among the teams [14:40] #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir [14:41] only slyon explaining the inetutils case [14:41] slyon: are you looking for help on this [14:41] I was wondering if cpaelzer or didrocks maybe know an answer to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/inetutils/+bug/2008789/comments/19? [14:41] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 2008789 in inetutils (Ubuntu) "[MIR] inetutils-telnet" [Undecided, Incomplete] [14:41] *reading the last update* [14:41] it is correctly in universe [14:42] I checkd inetutils-ftpd which you used as example [14:42] you can see that in rmadison and other sources [14:42] otherwise we could mark that one "fix released", but this could lead to us accidentally pulling in some of the other inetutils-* binaries in the future (which didn't get security review) [14:42] yes, everything is in the place it's supposed to be [14:42] listed in the extra seed is not equal to "be in main" or "be seeded" [14:42] but we wanted to install some kind of stop-gap to avoid us making mistakes in the future [14:42] aha! [14:42] as the situation is a bit special, in that we only have a single binary package in main [14:43] we had this before [14:43] and still have in other cases [14:43] I'm afraid that is down to the discipline of the archive admins [14:43] before promoting a random binary to check the MIR that got it added [14:43] which was the reason why we changed our template a few years ago to list this explicitly [14:43] to make it easier [14:44] yeah, I don’t see it before different (you can argue also that any binary package can grow and ship any new binaries in the same package without that discipline) [14:44] yep [14:44] so slyon, for your case I'd say call it "fix released" ? [14:44] wfm [14:44] ok [14:44] there is one more [14:44] \o/ [14:44] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/isc-kea/+bug/2002861 [14:44] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 2002861 in isc-kea (Ubuntu) "[MIR] promote isc-kea to main" [Undecided, In Progress] [14:45] slyon + sarnold : that should now be all right - correct? [14:46] 2003549 + 2003549 both LGTM [14:46] comment #12 suggests there's still an outstanding step [14:46] that has been done [14:46] that other case is also ready [14:47] here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/log4cplus/+bug/2003549 [14:47] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 2003549 in log4cplus (Ubuntu) "[MIR] promote log4cplus to main as a isc-kea dependency" [Undecided, In Progress] [14:47] looking [14:48] while your are looking, let me move over to the next section [14:48] #topic Process/Documentation improvements [14:48] Mission: Review pending process/documentation pull-requests or issues [14:48] #link https://github.com/canonical/ubuntu-mir/pulls [14:48] the other thing that worried me was the default rest api, but it looks like andreas got that ages ago :) [14:48] #link https://github.com/canonical/ubuntu-mir/issues [14:49] one PR up https://github.com/canonical/ubuntu-mir/pull/15 [14:49] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Pull 15 in canonical/ubuntu-mir "require a single Launchpad bug for each MIR request" [Open] [14:49] sarnold: indeed [14:49] this new PR looks good to me [14:50] cpaelzer: yeah, the only "open" issue seems to be #5 on isc-kea (symbols tracking), but there was some discussion and explanation that we'll skip it for this package, due to maintainability, as stated in comment #10. So MIR ACK for isc-kea [14:50] yep, thanks for adding the example as siggested [14:50] thanks slyon [14:50] slyon: I updated the kea cases to ask for the seed changes [14:50] ok, all seem to be happy with the PR [14:50] merging it now ... [14:51] thank you [14:51] \o/. [14:51] stop me now or stay silent forever [14:51] (crickets…) [14:51] #topic MIR related Security Review Queue [14:51] Mission: Check on progress, do deadlines seem doable? [14:51] #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-security/+bugs?field.searchtext=%5BMIR%5D&assignee_option=choose&field.assignee=ubuntu-security&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir [14:51] web 2.0 is neat, it's fun to see the little icon change live :) [14:51] Internal link [14:51] - ensure your teams items are prioritized among each other as you'd expect [14:51] - ensure community requests do not get stomped by teams calling for favors too much [14:51] #link https://warthogs.atlassian.net/jira/software/c/projects/SEC/boards/594 [14:51] aren't we at 4.0 at least? [14:51] hehe [14:52] all ours for this cycle are done [14:52] so for once in ages I'll not friendly-complain [14:52] you will unfriendly-complain then? :p [14:52] any other team having issues in this that you have concerns about [14:53] no, "friendly thank the security team" [14:53] \o/ [14:53] ok, no one seems to have a case to bring up here [14:53] at least today [14:53] * sarnold swaps the photo of cpaelzer on the monitor [14:53] unless seb128 who joined wanted to bring something up [14:53] #topic Any other business? [14:53] yes, two items here [14:54] nothing from me / server-team right now [14:54] no, I just mean every week to join just to check what's going on and be there for questions [14:54] and I keep forgetting, Didier changed a bug status which acted as reminder :p [14:54] ok sarnold, go for them [14:54] seb128: hehe [14:54] first, I suspect this team needs some changes https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mir/+members [14:54] as a FYI we will put dbus-broker in the review queue soon, we would like to transition from dbus-daemon to it next cycle [14:55] that probably impact server and others so take it as a FYI and talk to us if you have concerns [14:55] sarnold: indeed [14:55] doko: would you ok to make me admin there so that I can fix this up fron now on without bothering you? [14:55] (security team gave us a +1 on the apparmor integration front, there is a changeset ready upstream) [14:55] feel free to answer later if you are not around [14:56] seb128: nice! [14:56] seb128: is there a link on the conceptual changes that are to be expected if the two names do not immediately click for us? [14:56] okay, second issue, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wpebackend-fdo/+bug/1973033 -- there's a jammy task open on this older MIR, and I'm afraid this has fallen off our radar [14:56] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 1973033 in wpebackend-fdo (Ubuntu Jammy) "[MIR] wpebackend-fdo" [High, Incomplete] [14:56] cpaelzer, https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/DbusBrokerAsTheDefaultDbusImplementation [14:57] basically replacing one dbus server implementation by a better alternative other distro already use [14:57] cpaelzer: AFAIU it should be pretty much a drop-in replacement for dbus-daemon [14:57] it should have any visible impact [14:57] *not* [14:57] hehe [14:57] :p [14:57] I'd say try to do it early in the cycle so that we have time to spot it [14:58] yes, I plan to queue the MIR request this week [14:58] I've also sent a mail to doko for he same topic sarnold brought up [14:58] to ensure it isn't missed [14:58] thanks seb128, that I consider timely [14:58] seb128: "and makes use of many modern features provided by recent Linux kernel releases" .. will people be able to run eg naughty nightingale dbus-brokers on a bionic lxd host? focal? jammy? [14:58] let's hope that we don't end up being delayed by half a cycle waiting on a security review [14:58] * sarnold nods [14:58] sarnold: seb128: the case you brought up https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wpebackend-fdo/+bug/1973033 [14:58] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 1973033 in wpebackend-fdo (Ubuntu Jammy) "[MIR] wpebackend-fdo" [High, Incomplete] [14:59] that was re-reviewed by slyon [14:59] seen in comment #11 [14:59] right, I've in my backlog to address those [14:59] sarnold, Linux kernel >= 4.17 is described in this page [14:59] ok, so it has not been forgotten [14:59] it is incomplete [14:59] and the state matches [14:59] but https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libwpe/+bug/1973031 is needed [14:59] I think there was another once related, which still needs review from joalif [14:59] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 1973031 in libwpe (Ubuntu Jammy) "[MIR] libwpe" [Undecided, New] [14:59] and that wasn't reviewed [14:59] this ^ [14:59] seb128: aha, cool, thanks [15:00] seb128: just do realize that this is prone to be missed if going back (as the main task is fix released) [15:00] so there is no point to move the other one meanwhile... [15:00] seb128: so bring it up here in the meeting if in doubt after you think it is ready [15:00] also as a predicted, that a depends now for new webkitgtk [15:00] and that other one is assigned to joalif [15:00] that mdeslaur plans to security update soon [15:00] to do the review [15:00] d'oh! I hadn't realized there were two bugs with jammy tasks open :( sorry for the confusion [15:00] he said he would push without blocking on MIR review if needed [15:00] oops seems like it fell through the net [15:00] but I let security/MIR sort that out [15:01] i'll do it this week [15:01] ok, so all is going on well then [15:01] thanks [15:01] we are out of time [15:01] cool, thanks :) [15:01] thank you all [15:01] thanks cpaelzer, seb128, all [15:01] thanks all o/ [15:01] I tihnk we are also done for today [15:01] thanks all! [15:01] thanks [15:01] #endmeeting [15:01] Meeting ended at 15:01:48 UTC. Minutes at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2023/ubuntu-meeting.2023-04-04-14.33.moin.txt [15:01] Thank you all! [15:01] thanks! === JanC_ is now known as JanC [19:24] cpaelzer: done === JanC is now known as Guest2516 === JanC_ is now known as JanC