[10:43] <akik> hi
[10:43] <akik> is ubuntu going to keep xorg for longer than fedora?
[10:43] <akik> "it's very possible Xorg will be removed on F39 or F40"
[10:44] <akik> now the current fedora is F37
[10:44] <akik> F38 is coming out very soon
[10:44] <ravage> did not hear anything about removing it 
[10:44] <akik> i was thinking it's kept as a backup for many years
[10:45] <tomreyn> so here's what my crystal ball says: ubuntu has a common foundation for all flavours, mayn of which continue to depend on Xorg. it is therefore unlikely that Xorg packages will not be available in the next few *ubuntu release archives.
[10:46] <akik> F39 and F40 are also the next few releases :)
[10:47] <tomreyn> also, i *think* fedora works differently. they have spins (~ flavours), but i think they don't share the common baseline.
[10:47] <tomreyn> i'm not really sure about the common baseline, though
[10:47] <akik> the base packages are the same
[10:47] <tomreyn> why is the question of whether xorg will be available in archives relevant to you, though, akik?
[10:47] <ravage> and this is still ubuntu discuss. so it does not matter ;)
[10:47] <akik> come on dude
[10:48] <akik> this is a direct question about ubuntu
[10:48]  * ravage points to #ubuntu-offtopic :D
[10:48] <akik> you can stay there :)
[10:49] <tomreyn> i like choice. i like it when multiple rather-more-than-less supported softwares which can be used more-or-less-interchangeably can be available in parallel.
[10:49] <tomreyn> so i'd like to see xorg in ubuntu repos for as long as it is maintainable.
[10:50] <ravage> im on xorg and i dont see nvidia getting their stuff together any time soon on wayland
[10:50] <ravage> my hope is 24.04. but im not that confident 
[10:51]  * tomreyn giggles
[10:51] <akik> i went to #fedora-kde to ask about mouse pointer speed and why it's so slow. i can fix it with a xorg snippet. they said it's not going to be added in the installer any more
[10:52] <tomreyn> akik: to me, a much more relevant question than "is package X still going to be available" is that about defaults. which ubuntu flavour is able and ready to switch to wayland, and when will they do so? is this actually something they will ever be able to do?
[10:52] <akik> i have a new 4k tv and it was a drag to move the mouse pointer on it :)
[10:53] <tomreyn> i bet you can configure mouse pointer acceleration on kubuntu settings somewhere
[10:53] <akik> tomreyn: yes there it is in systemsettings but it doesn't do anything 
[10:54] <tomreyn> i see. well, i'm not really into kubuntu / kde, i'm afraid.
[10:55] <akik> i've not used anything except plasma and mate since ubuntu 14.04
[10:55] <akik> mate on the older computers