[13:00] <IrcsomeBot> <DPRanjiida> switched to Awesome window manager from Kubuntu
[13:00] <IrcsomeBot> <DPRanjiida> Using 405mb of ram only on Linux Mint xfce
[13:00] <IrcsomeBot> <DPRanjiida> Kubuntu support was so helpful for me
[13:00] <IrcsomeBot> <DPRanjiida> thanks
[13:00] <IrcsomeBot> <DPRanjiida> bye 🙌
[13:00] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:01] <IrcsomeBot> <DPRanjiida> switched to Awesome window manager from KDE Kubuntu
[13:01] <IrcsomeBot> <DPRanjiida> Using 405mb of ram only on Linux Mint xfce
[13:01] <IrcsomeBot> <DPRanjiida> Kubuntu support was so helpful for me
[13:01] <IrcsomeBot> <DPRanjiida> thanks
[13:01] <IrcsomeBot> <DPRanjiida> bye 🙌
[13:26] <user|63> Hello, I wanted some help, I'm in doubt about kde neon or kubuntu, I'm starting programming and I really liked the interface of both, which would be more recommended for programming?
[13:29] <diogenes_Vx15> user|63, KDE Neon is just a testing platform for KDE whereas Kubuntu is a real OS.
[13:37] <user|63> right but then do you think kubuntu or ubuntu is better? I don't quite understand their difference
[13:40] <diogenes_Vx15> user|63, if you like KDE then Kubuntu is tailored to give you the best KDE experience.
[13:51] <IrcsomeBot> <TimoSalola> I've recently used both kubuntu and ubuntu for programming and I don't see a major difference between the two. However I do prefer the way ubuntu default file explorer handles network drives where as I like the UI of kubuntu more and I have a deep dislike for how ubuntu seems to be going towards shipping software as containers.
[14:07] <user|63> IrcsomeBot Got it, so kubuntu for you turned out to be better mainly because of its interface? Note: I'm using the translator, that's why the question
[14:28] <diogenes_Vx15> user|63, well any Ubuntu based distro is more or less just Ubuntu under the hood and a desktop on top of it but the distro which provides that desktop on top of Ubuntu, makes sure it's as polished and ready to use out of the box as you can get.
[14:31] <IrcsomeBot> <TimoSalola> Yes I personally prefer kubuntu due to interface and some application packaging policies. But really in most cases the differences between the two are so small that you are unlikely to come across tasks that would only be possible on either of them.
[14:49] <Keksimus> Hello :)
[14:51] <Keksimus> Installed лubuntu and for some reason there is no sound, anyone can help?
[14:56] <diogenes_Vx15> Keksimus, did you update the system with: sudo apt full-upgrade
[14:56] <diogenes_Vx15> and reboot?
[14:56] <Keksimus> ofcourse
[14:58] <diogenes_Vx15> Keksimus, ok then let's see your system specs run in terminal: inxi -Fxxc0 | nc termbin.com 9999
[14:58] <diogenes_Vx15> share the url you get in terminal.
[15:00] <Keksimus> https://termbin.com/kft8i
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[15:08] <diogenes_Vx15> Keksimus, i see it's running pipewire, i'd recommend testing with pulseaudio, disabling pipewire and reboot.
[15:11] <Keksimus> diogenes_Vx15, how can I do that? I am a beginner linux user :)
[15:13] <diogenes_Vx15> Keksimus, run this in terminal: sudo apt remove pipewire-audio-client-libraries pipewire
[15:18] <Keksimus> <diogenes_Vx15> still no sound
[15:19] <diogenes_Vx15> Keksimus, you are rushing too much, i haven't even finished the commands )
[15:19] <Keksimus> Audio device: Intel Corporation Comet Lake PCH cAVS (prog-if 80)
[15:19] <Keksimus>         Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Comet Lake PCH cAVS
[15:19] <Keksimus>         Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 32, IRQ 174
[15:19] <Keksimus>         Memory at c5518000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
[15:19] <Keksimus>         Memory at c5100000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=1M]
[15:19] <Keksimus>         Capabilities: <access denied>
[15:20] <diogenes_Vx15> !pastebin | Keksimus
[15:20] <ubottu> Keksimus: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://dpaste.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.
[15:21] <Keksimus> maybe it can help
[15:22] <diogenes_Vx15> Keksimus, run: pactl info | nc termbin.com 9999
[15:22] <diogenes_Vx15> share url
[15:23] <Keksimus> https://termbin.com/k3bn0
[15:25] <diogenes_Vx15> Keksimus, but does your sound adjustment work? when you change the volume is it active?
[15:26] <Keksimus> <diogenes_Vx15> yes, it seems like the sound works, but the sound does not come from the speakers
[15:28] <diogenes_Vx15> make sure it's not muted also have you tried with headphones?
[15:34] <Keksimus> USB headphones have sound, they work as a separate sound device. There is no sound in regular 3.5mm headphones either.
[15:35] <diogenes_Vx15> run: aplay -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[15:45] <Keksimus> https://i.imgur.com/2Us3QzN.png
[15:46] <Keksimus> https://termbin.com/2frn
[15:51] <diogenes_Vx15> Kuraokami, ok now run in terminal: aplay -D plughw:0,0 /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav
[15:51] <diogenes_Vx15> so you hear anything?
[15:54] <Keksimus> no
[15:56] <diogenes_Vx15> Keksimus, what did it say in terminal after you run the command?
[15:57] <Keksimus> Playing WAVE '/usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate 48000 Hz, Mono
[16:01] <diogenes_Vx15> Keksimus, i see, so the problem is bigger than that, now i've got to go for awhile and i suggest you try a newer distro version running live off the USB drive and test your sound there, let's see how it goes: https://releases.ubuntu.com/lunar/ubuntu-23.04-beta-desktop-amd64.iso
[16:03] <Keksimus> diogenes_Vx15, thanks, I'm try
[17:46] <Keksimus> diogenes_, I tried again the 3.5mm input, there is sound, but there is no sound in the laptop speakers. Also tried distributions linuxmint-21.1-cinnamon-64bit, ubuntu-23.04-beta-desktop-amd64. The same. Now I will try pop-os_22.04_amd64_nvidia_25 and manjaro-kde-22.0.5-230316-linux61
[17:47] <diogenes_Vx15> Keksimus, that might actually mean that something is wrong with the speakers.
[17:52] <Keksimus> diogenes_Vx15, but in windows works fine. I will boot into wind and check
[17:56] <user|8> Hello, can anyone help me with the following problem.  I just upgraded from Kubuntu 22.04 to 22.10 so that I could follow the instructions at https://kubuntu.org/news/plasma-5-27-2-for-kubuntu-22-10-available-via-ppa
[17:56] <user|8> to upgrade Plasma from 5.25.5 to 5.27.2.
[17:56] <user|8> The upgrade to Kubuntu 22.10 seemed to work okay, but when after I ran
[17:56] <user|8>   sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports
[17:56] <user|8>   sudo apt full-upgrade
[17:56] <user|8> and rebooted I did not have KDE as a choice for the desktop when I login (I have GNOME, MATE, Xfce, LXQt, and Ubuntu, but no KDE).
[18:00] <mparillo> Is the DE labeled as Plasma?
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[18:02] <Keksimus> diogenes_Vx15, yes in windows work fine
[18:14] <diogenes_Vx15> Keksimus2, some peple say they had the same issue and one fix was: " The laptop speakers started to work as soon as the laptop was connected over HDMI. Even after disconnecting the HDMI the speakers kept working. Even after a complete power shutdown and restart."
[18:23] <Keksimus2> diogenes_Vx15, I'll try now, just need to find a TV or monitor)
[18:24] <diogenes_Vx15> Keksimus2, also run this in terminal: echo 0 | sudo tee /sys/module/snd_hda_intel/parameters/power_save
[18:25] <diogenes_Vx15> after you run, check the sound, after that, run: pulseaudio -k and check again.
[18:59] <Keksimus2> diogenes_Vx15, nope 🤯😁. Sound is output to the TV via HDMI.  But doesn't go to speakers laptop.
[19:00] <Keksimus2> some kind of anomaly, the first time I meet this)
[19:00] <diogenes_Vx15> Keksimus2, have you tried the command?
[19:00] <Keksimus2> Yes
[19:01] <diogenes_Vx15> this one? echo 0 | sudo tee /sys/module/snd_hda_intel/parameters/power_save
[19:06] <Keksimus> https://i.imgur.com/4tsowk8.png
[19:09] <diogenes_Vx15> Keksimus, indeed that's a very strange issue that i haven't see so far, maybe you have some audio related settings in BIOS? also try this workaround: https://www.freecodecamp.org/news/how-to-fix-broken-audio-in-headphones-and-speakers-linux/
[19:20] <Keksimus> https://i.imgur.com/xbAl3a5.png
[19:28] <Keksimus2> try Manjaro..
[19:30] <diogenes_Vx15> Keksimus2, i'd not recommend manjaro, try also this command: amixer set Headphone 100% unmute
[19:37] <Keksimus> Realtek ALC294, mayby incorrectly detect the sound chip? I'm almost out of ideas_)
[19:39] <diogenes_Vx15> Keksimus2, are you still here?
[19:43] <Keksimus2> diogenes_Vx15, yep)
[19:43] <diogenes_Vx15> Keksimus2, let's try another hacky solution.
[19:43] <Keksimus2> Manjaro same situation)
[19:45] <diogenes_Vx15> no no, manjaro is no good, tell me what text editor is there on your system? is it kate or kwrite?
[19:47] <Keksimus2> Kate
[19:48] <diogenes_Vx15> run in terminal: pkexec env DISPLAY=$DISPLAY XAUTHORITY=$XAUTHORITY kate /lib/firmware/alc294-sound-patch.fw
[19:48] <diogenes_Vx15> tell me it opens a textfile.
[19:53] <Keksimus2> Open, here empty
[19:53] <diogenes_Vx15> now open up this link and copy its content into that textfile: https://privatebin.net/?f208ebb9cc4eb144#826uS7RCaPpfNuCxninzUUbbrqECrZRQsdRkVr3yrsDA
[19:55] <Keksimus2> Copying, save, now reboot?
[19:55] <diogenes_Vx15> save, close and run: cat /lib/firmware/alc294-sound-patch.fw | nc termbin.com 9999 (share the url)
[19:55] <diogenes_Vx15> don't reboot
[19:58] <Keksimus> https://termbin.com/uxuo
[19:58] <diogenes_Vx15> now run: pkexec env DISPLAY=$DISPLAY XAUTHORITY=$XAUTHORITY kate /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[20:00] <Keksimus> blob:https://imgur.com/b2e93030-b69c-4812-beef-9a201f788813
[20:01] <Keksimus> https://imgur.com/JumtyFU
[20:04] <diogenes_Vx15> oh shush, that's a lot of hacks right there, close the text file and run: sudo mv /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf ~/Documents
[20:04] <diogenes_Vx15> tell me when done.
[20:06] <Keksimus> done
[20:07] <diogenes_Vx15> now once again run: pkexec env DISPLAY=$DISPLAY XAUTHORITY=$XAUTHORITY kate /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[20:07] <diogenes_Vx15> this time the file should be empty, so write the following line: options snd-hda-intel patch=alc294-sound-patch.fw
[20:08] <diogenes_Vx15> close, save and run: cat /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:12] <Keksimus> https://termbin.com/ukad
[20:13] <diogenes_Vx15> ok, looks good, now run: sudo update-initramfs -u and after it's done reboot first into windows and it's very important to reboot from windows into Linux, not shutdown and then boot Linux but reboot and let it boot Linux.
[20:23] <Keksimus2> Nope 😔
[20:31] <Keksimus2> I have the same laptop, only with an i7-9750h.  It has the same realtec alc294 sound card.  And everything works there.
[20:33] <diogenes_Vx15> and you dual boot with windows on that one too?
[20:34] <Keksimus2> diogenes_Vx15,did as written, the result is negative
[20:35] <diogenes_Vx15> Keksimus2, then most likely you're facing a different bug that you should report.
[20:39] <Keksimus2> But it works in windows🤯
[20:43] <genii> Hm, is this a zenbook?
[20:43] <diogenes_Vx15> the bug is on the Linux site but it's not Linux fault that asus doesn't provide Linux supported hardware, they don't care about Linux compatibility.
[20:44] <diogenes_Vx15> there are many other manufacturers who actualy make Linux compatible computers.
[20:45] <Keksimus2> I think this was my last product purchase from asus
[20:45] <diogenes_Vx15> genii, ROG Strix G712LU_G712LU, here are his specs: https://termbin.com/kft8i
[20:47] <genii> Ah, ok. ...was wondering because there was a known fix for zenbooks and this chipset, which was to put:  options snd-hda-intel model=asus-zenbook   ... into /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[20:47] <genii> They seem to have similar quirks as the old intelhda issue
[20:48] <genii> !intelhda
[20:48] <ubottu> For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[20:49] <Keksimus3> https://termbin.com/rzo1 its my old laptop, here all works fine from the box ROG Strix G731GU
[20:55] <genii> Keksimus3: Well, if nothing so far has worked you might try the alsa-base.conf edit I suggested
[20:55] <genii> Seeing as ASUS makes both machines the quirk may be the same across multiple products
[21:02] <Keksimus2> genii, I'll try, later. But I think that there might be a mistake with the specific component base in this laptop model. The voltage may be insufficient or something similar.
[21:02] <genii> Hm, looks like model can now be passed with an option like model=vendorid:modelid
[21:04] <Keksimus2> diogenes_Vx15, but anyway, it was interesting, thank you for your help.
[21:04] <genii> ..so in your case the line to be added would be: snd-hda-intel model=8086:a348
[21:05] <diogenes_Vx15> Keksimus2, no problem, try also what genii suggests, i'm almost certain that this isuue can be resolved.
[21:09] <Keksimus2> genii, well, where should I click? 😁
[21:12] <genii> Keksimus2: by console you could add this with: echo "snd-hda-intel model=8086:a348"|sudo tee -a  /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[21:13] <Keksimus> done
[21:14] <genii> I can't remember if there's a way to restart pulse/alsa without logout, I'd just reboot instead
[21:15] <genii> It's possible unloading snd-hda-intel and reloading it using rmmod and modprobe might do it
[21:16] <genii> ...it's been a while since I was troubleshooting sound issues :)
[21:27] <Keksimus2> rebooted, but it doesn't seem to have helped)
[21:33] <Keksimus2> "Okay, thank you everyone, I'm going to bed now 🥴😴"
[21:38] <genii> Hm, the 8086:a348 may need to be changed to 10de:1aeb to reflect the sub-device
[21:43] <genii> Keksimus2: For later when you wake up: the 8086:a348 may need to be changed to 10de:1aeb to reflect the sub-device. For this: sudo sed -i 's/8086:a348/10de:1aeb/g' /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
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