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[09:45] <alkisg> Boot 16.04 64bit with init=/bin/bash, then `free` => 49M used. For 22.04 => 86M. For 23.04 => 300M.
[09:45] <alkisg> How can I find out what in the kernel configuration takes 200+ more MB RAM in 23.04? I don't see anything weird in ps or in lsmod...
[09:51] <arighi> alkisg, `slabtop -s c` maybe can tell if the kernel itself is using too much memory in some slab caches, moreover `free -m` would help to understand if most of the memory is page cache or actually allocated memory (I guess you already measured these values after dropping page cache, e.g., `echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches`?)
[09:54] <alkisg> Output of `uname -a; free; lsmod; ps faux` for 22.10, i.e. 89M used: https://termbin.com/r5q8
[09:54] <alkisg> Output for 23.04, i.e. 344M used: https://termbin.com/ox2b
[09:54] <alkisg> I'm looking at the "used" column, so caches are excluded; will check slabtop now
[10:03] <alkisg> Output of slabtop -s c -o for 23.04: https://termbin.com/uwj8v
[10:04] <alkisg> (dropping the caches makes no difference, it's too early in the boot process, no significant cache usage yet)
[10:05] <alkisg> Output of slabtop -s c -o for 22.10: https://termbin.com/5v3s
[14:28] <LocutusOfBorg> Hello, I tried to run dkms autopkgtests on official autopkgtest machines
[14:28] <LocutusOfBorg> +EFI variables are not supported on this system
[14:28] <LocutusOfBorg> +/sys/firmware/efi/efivars not found, aborting.
[14:29] <LocutusOfBorg> I don't think "modprobe efivars" is sufficient to fix this, right?
[14:29] <LocutusOfBorg> see https://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/results/autopkgtest-lunar/lunar/amd64/d/dkms/20230403_183258_890fd@/log.gz
[14:30] <LocutusOfBorg> on armhf I get a "better error" "Secure Boot not enabled on this system."
[14:30] <LocutusOfBorg> ^^ this is on arm64, while on armhf I get "Binary update-secureboot-policy not found, modules won't be signed"
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[14:31] <LocutusOfBorg> (same armhf on ppc64el and s390x)
[14:31] <LocutusOfBorg> and I don't think adding shim-signed will fix, right?
[14:46] <arighi> LocutusOfBorg, from a kernel perspective /sys/firmware/evi/efivars should be populated when the efivars fs is mounted, like `mount -t efivarfs none /sys/firmware/efi/efivars`, not sure why it doesn't show up on this test system...
[14:47] <arighi> I'm wondering what would happen if you try to mount that manually (not sure if it's possible)
[15:12] <LocutusOfBorg> arighi, thanks
[15:12] <LocutusOfBorg> the test has "needs-root"
[15:12] <LocutusOfBorg> soooooo maaaaaaaaaybe :D
[15:13] <LocutusOfBorg> testing on https://launchpad.net/~costamagnagianfranco/+archive/ubuntu/locutusofborg-ppa/+packages?field.name_filter=&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=lunar
[15:19] <LocutusOfBorg> well, at least on arm64 it says "Secure Boot not enabled on this system"
[15:19] <LocutusOfBorg> https://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/results/autopkgtest-lunar-costamagnagianfranco-locutusofborg-ppa/lunar/arm64/d/dkms/20230411_151723_f2fca@/log.gz
[16:21] <LocutusOfBorg> mount: /sys/firmware/efi/efivars: mount point does not exist.
[16:21] <LocutusOfBorg> damn
[17:34] <alkisg> Anything else I could try to see why the kernel needs 300+ MB RAM in 23.04, compared to 90- MB in 22.10? (see above for details and pastebins)
[18:25] <sarnold> alkisg: it's a wild-guess shot in the dark, but check dmesg | grep -i crash  on both? I have a very vague memory of the crashdump default being raised, or discussed to be raised?, or something similar anyway :)
[19:46] <alkisg> sarnold: thanks; unfortunately there's nothing in `dmesg | grep -i crash` in 23.04
[19:53] <alkisg> (nor in 22.10)
[20:12] <sarnold> alkisg: dang. well, not all my wild ass guesses work out :(
[20:12] <sarnold> alkisg: how about /proc/meminfo on both?
[20:12] <alkisg> Meh, it looks like it's an initramfs issue, not a kernel issue. I installed the 23.04 kernel in 22.04 and it doesn't have increased memory usage
[20:13] <alkisg> I wonder if it's not freeing up the initrd memory. Looking more into it...
[20:47] <alkisg> Heh. I put `break=bottom` and ran `mount --bind /proc /root/proc; chroot /root free`. 22.10 says 75M used, 23.04 says 730M used.
[20:47] <alkisg> I think many 1GB cloud servers/VMs won't be able to boot at all anymore...
[21:15] <arighi> LocutusOfBorg, hm.. don't you have /sys/firmware/efi and /sys/firmware/efivars?
[21:16] <arighi> alkisg, I'm wondering if the initramfs is bigger because mkinitramfs started to put linux-modules-extra modules to the initramfs in 23.04...