[00:14] <orndorffgrant> bdmurray: Hey, yes and yes! Just updated my LP page and I'll add the changelog and address the feedback on the update-manager MP first thing tomorrow
[00:16] <bdmurray> orndorffgrant: great thanks, if nobody else gets to it I'll look at sponsoring it tomorrow
[00:17] <orndorffgrant> cool, thank you!
[09:07] <seb128> bdrung, hey, did you say you planned an apport upload before lunar and if so what's the status? I would still be interested in seeing that subiquity hook update in the release and it's getting late, RC is tomorrow
[09:30] <bdrung> seb128, probably today or tomorrow
[09:31] <seb128> bdrung, ack, thanks
[12:29] <nkshirsa> sil2100, hello o/ May I please check back about the sos 4.5 apt packages which are currently in the upload queue - https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/jammy/+queue?queue_state=1&queue_text=sosreport
[12:29] <nkshirsa> We'd appreciate a push to proposed please
[12:30] <nkshirsa> Is there something holding it back?
[12:55] <rbasak> Does the patch pilot bot still work?
[12:55] <rbasak> @pilot in
[12:55] <rbasak> I guess not
[12:55] <rbasak> @pilot out
[12:55] <rbasak> udevbot was the bot that did it previously
[12:57] <rbasak> Looks like it didn't survive the move over from Freenode.
[12:57] <rbasak> I last see it in Freenode in May 2021, which coincides with the move I think.
[12:57] <rbasak> And never here on Libera.Chat.
[13:02] <ogra> was it even using @ as trigger ?
[13:03] <rbasak> It was - I checked my logs.
[13:03] <rbasak> I found https://git.launchpad.net/~krytarik/ubuntu-bots/+git/udevbot
[13:04] <rbasak> So we have the code, and just need someone to operate the bot. I don't know who ran it before. I've made some enquiries.
[13:20] <ibilalkayy> Hello World!
[14:16] <arraybolt3> rbasak: Any clue how that bot would be set up and what kind of resources it requires? I could possibly get it running on a machine over here if that would be helpful. I'd be happy to use one of my free Ubuntu Pro licenses so I can enable Livepatch for reduced downtime (though my Internet isn't the most stable thing in the world).
[14:19] <arraybolt3> Oy, looks like it runs on Supybot, which is apparently long gone. I wonder how much work it is to port it to Limnoria.
[14:25] <teward> ddstreet: mapreri: I will be late to the backporters meeting - call with boss at FT job that has me until 15 minutes into the backporters meeting
[14:25] <ddstreet> teward ack, i'm fine delaying the mtg until you can make it, if that's ok with mapreri
[14:29] <teward> arraybolt3: if you do the limnoria port I can toss the bot up on the system that runs the IRC-Telegram bridge (Ubuntu Bridge Bot) for a few official Ubuntu channels - my internet is a lot more stable than yours I think
[14:30] <arraybolt3> teward: That sounds like a much better idea - I just checked my ISP's TOS and I think running an IRC bot would be prohibited. (Cellular companies are meh - I can't even safely use BitTorrent on this thing :-/)
[14:32] <Eickmeyer> arraybolt3: rbasak has already talked to the #ubuntu-ops channel, give it time.
[14:33] <Eickmeyer> The owner of the original bot needs to be awake first. :)
[14:43] <holmanb> rbasak: There is no action yet on the apparmor debian bug linked in LP: #2011628. Do you think it is time to move forward with this fix in Ubuntu? Or wait a bit longer?
[14:43] -ubottu:#ubuntu-devel- Launchpad bug 2011628 in isc-dhcp (Ubuntu) "Apparmor Disallows Disabling Dhclient Scripts" [Medium, Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2011628
[14:56] <mapreri> ddstreet: starting at .15 is fine with me, but note that at the next hour (on the dot) I have another meeting I can't postpone
[14:56] <mapreri> teward: : starting at .15 is fine with me, but note that at the next hour (on the dot) I have another meeting I can't postpone
[15:09] <sil2100> nkshirsa: hey! hmmm, I'd love to take a look at it, the main problem is time - it's the end of cycle and next week is release week, so it's a bit of a crazy time
[15:09] <sil2100> nkshirsa: I'll try my best to look at it today or tomorrow
[15:14] <ddstreet> mapreri teward ready to start?
[15:14] <teward> ye
[15:14] <mapreri> yep
[15:15] <ddstreet> #startmeeting Ubuntu backporters team
[15:15] <ddstreet> lol oops
[15:15] <ddstreet> wrong channel :)
[16:35] <rbasak> "Due to the potentially disastrous consequences of having localtime differ between systems running -updates and systems running only -security, this package is always kept in sync between the two pockets. However, the package can be built with -updates and then copied from -proposed to -updates and -security after the security team has signed off on the SRU bug e.g. 1878108."
[16:35] <rbasak> How do I organise that?
[16:36] <rbasak> sbeattie: are you expecting to sign-off on bug 2012599 please, to copy tzdata to the security pocket now that it's released into -updates?
[16:36] -ubottu:#ubuntu-devel- Bug 2012599 in tzdata (Ubuntu Lunar) "tzdata 2023a/2023b/2023c release - Egypt restoring DST" [Critical, Fix Released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2012599
[16:36] <rbasak> Oh.
[16:36] <rbasak> Perhaps I should have waited to release to -updates.
[16:36] <rbasak> Hmm.
[16:36] <rbasak> Anyway, can we binary copy tzdata to -security please?
[16:50] <sbeattie> rbasak: yes, please go ahead.
[16:51] <rbasak> Thanks!
[16:51] <rbasak> Now, I don't think I have permission to publish to the security pocket myself. Hmm.
[16:54] <rbasak> Is this what I want?
[16:54] <rbasak> for series in kinetic jammy focal bionic; do copy-package --from ubuntu -s ${series}-updates --to ubuntu --to-suite ${series}-security --include-binaries tzdata; done
[16:54] <rbasak> sil2100: ^ could you verify please?
[16:54] <rbasak> Or vorlon
[16:55] <rbasak> And I suspect it won't work for me anyway and I need an AA? Or will it go to Unapproved for subsequent approval by an AA? In any case, if an AA could do it please, that would be easier :)
[16:59] <sbeattie> rbasak: that looks correct, I can do it if you want.
[17:00] <rbasak> sbeattie: ah yes of course you can do it. Please do if you're confident - thanks.
[17:01] <rbasak> FTR, this is based on what's documented at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates#tzdata
[17:01] <rbasak> I intend to improve that documentation now that I've been through it once.
[17:04] <sbeattie> rbasak: if there's other packages that have similar constraints, let me know. I'd like to add a monitoring script to look for inconsistencies like this.
[17:11] <vorlon> rbasak: fwiw sru-release has a --security option so you can do it in one go
[17:27] <rbasak> Ah thanks. I'll document that in the tzdata bit of the wiki
[17:27] <rbasak> Would I have permission to do that though?
[17:28] <vorlon> to run it, yes; but I think you're correct it would land in unapproved without an AA
[17:28] <bdmurray> bdrung: It'd be helpful if the apport upload also disabled crash reporting to LP
[17:28] <bdrung> bdmurray, that's on my radar as well
[17:29] <bdmurray> great, thanks!
[17:37] <bdmurray> seb128: Is there anything special about uploading the ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu? https://code.launchpad.net/~feng-kylin/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/+git/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/+merge/439784
[17:42] <vorlon> bdmurray: it needs to have the translations for each of the flavors imported at some point, I think?
[17:44] <krytarik> arraybolt3: Fwiw, on quite a lot of plugins that are up to date and now being run on Limnoria, you may notice they still say in the documentation to be based on Supybot simply due to historical reasons and nobody having found a good reason yet to replace the name.
[17:57] <arraybolt3> krytarik: I meant that there were imports from supybot-related things in the code.
[17:58] <arraybolt3> i.e., "from supybot.commands import *"
[17:58] <arraybolt3> I didn't research far enough to tell if Limnoria was API-compatible enough for that to work.
[18:00] <krytarik> Right, because the module names haven't been change yet either, for backwards compatibility reasons.
[18:03] <krytarik> Same goes for the settings too btw.
[18:04] <arraybolt3> Oh nice.
[18:06] <krytarik> But this doesn't necessarily mean you can run a current plugin without any issues on a decade old Supybot version. :P
[18:07] <arraybolt3> Backwards-compatible, not forwards-compatible. Makes sense.
[18:10] <krytarik> That is, there will certainly be changes to Limnoria since then which you've had to adapt the plugin code to, while not necessarily making sure it works the same on older versions.
[21:09] <bdrung> bdmurray, apport 2.26.1-0ubuntu1 uploaded
[21:32] <seb128> bdmurray, nothing special no
[21:43] <hallyn> Hi - is anyone here well versed in translations, in particular itstool and msgfmt ?  For some reason in shadow (upstream https://github.com/shadow-maint/shadow, under man/ , i.e. generate_translations) some parts are not getting translated, and I can't figure out why.
[21:44] <hallyn> (rbasak had suggested I contact gunnar, but I don't see him here)
[21:46] <seb128> He's GunnarHj, he was online until ~half an hour ago, try maybe again tomorrow?
[21:58] <hallyn> oh, i checked whowas and it hadn't seen him - thanks, sespiros
[21:58] <hallyn> uh, thanks seb128.
[22:01] <sespiros> huh that's new, I've been only getting good mornings intended for seth arnold so far
[22:29] <tobhe> good morning sespiros
[22:35] <sarnold> sespiros: careful, you might get goodmornings for lots of people that way :)