[02:06] <lotuspsychje> good morning
[10:46] <zxd> does xubuntu 20.04 have same end of life support as ubuntu 20.04 ?
[10:47] <ravage> ubuntu flavours to not get support through the complete LTS support cycle
[10:47] <oerheks> xubuntu 3 years, ubuntu and server 5 years
[10:48] <ravage> so for flavors just update when the next LTS is available
[10:48] <ravage> but that is a good thing to do anyway
[10:48] <zxd> but what's the difference between installing ubuntu and replacing it with xfce desktop environment ? xubuntu is not maitaned by the same people of ubuntu ?
[10:48] <zxd> maintained
[10:50] <lotuspsychje> zxd: flavour desktops can be installed ontop another ubuntu base for several purposes
[10:50] <lotuspsychje> like you can install xubuntu-desktop ontop ubuntu desktop for example
[10:51] <ravage> official flavors are recognized by Ubuntu but are not necessarily maintained by the same people. usually a smaller team. thats why shorter support
[10:51] <lotuspsychje> logout, and login to your flavour desktop of choice
[10:51] <ravage> the core packages are the same
[10:51] <ravage> and those also get the full support
[12:10] <guiverc> zxd, re: flavor support; maybe useful is the `ubuntu-security-status` command; it was written about on this post I wrote (https://discourse.lubuntu.me/t/lubuntu-20-04-lts-is-nearing-its-eol-end-of-life/4087) warning of lubuntu's approaching EOL; the box I used includes `xubuntu-desktop` too... ie. Xfce packages will be EOL but base Ubuntu 20.04 system still gets security fixes etc
[20:29] <leftyfb> Eickmeyer: I thought you were an op?
[20:30] <Eickmeyer> leftyfb: Not in that room
[20:30] <Eickmeyer> leftyfb: I'm on the ops team, but not in that room
[20:32] <arraybolt3[m]> ...do I dare actually send ":q"...
[20:35] <leftyfb> he's clearly a troll and doesn't have any real questions
[20:37] <Eickmeyer> leftyfb: Except /part seemed to work, so I think just a novice user.
[20:39] <arraybolt3[m]> I find it a bit unlikely that a novice user accidentally opened two duplicate clients. Just sayin'.
[20:40] <arraybolt3[m]> Also run "hola sí comidas rápidas el chamo una hambutguesa por favor" through Google Translate. :P I don't think they came in asking for help but started out by talking about a hamburger.
[20:41] <Eickmeyer> arraybolt3[m]: Agreed, but the CoC mandates that we assume good faith. I think they just didn't read the channel topic first. Once I told them to read /topic their tone changed very quick.
[20:41] <arraybolt3[m]> Valid point.
[20:42] <arraybolt3[m]> Speaking of Vim though, if anyone asks how to exit and ":qa!" doesn't do the trick, there's apparently an even more complex sequence that will: https://stackoverflow.com/a/31028197/19474638