[14:59] <bdrung> o/
[15:00] <ogayot> o/
[15:00] <zhsj> o/
[15:00] <ginggs> o/
[15:00] <slyon> o/
[15:00] <liushuyu> o/
[15:01] <mateus-morais> o/
[15:02]  * vorlon waves
[15:03] <xypron> o/
[15:03] <juliank> o/
[15:03] <juliank> #startmeeting Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team
[15:03] <meetingology> Meeting started at 15:03:36 UTC.  The chair is juliank.  Information about MeetBot at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology
[15:03] <bdmurray> o/
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[15:03] <juliank> #topic Lightning rounds
[15:03] <juliank> #link https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/foundations-team-updates-thursday-13-april-2023
[15:04] <juliank> let's take some minutes to read
[15:06] <bdmurray> enr0n: Is there anything worrisome in the u-r-u bug reports? Or are people not upgrading to Lunar yet?
[15:06] <enr0n> bdmurray: I have seen very few Lunar upgrades. These are mostly the usual "some PPA broke my upgrade" reports.
[15:10] <enr0n> slyon: do you think a fix is needed in systemd for bug 1999178? Or does it seem that udev behaving reasonably given that the syslog group is missing?
[15:10] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 1999178 in netplan "netplan generator causes deadlock during systemd daemon-reload" [High, Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1999178
[15:11] <slyon> enr0n: I'm not yet sure. But doesn't seem critical, as CPC has an easy fix/workaround available now
[15:11] <enr0n> slyon: ack
[15:11] <slyon> We'll get back to you if some systemd fix would be needed
[15:12] <juliank> #topic Release incoming bugs
[15:12] <juliank> #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ll-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs
[15:12] <vorlon> good discussion about FTBFS fixes this week
[15:12] <juliank> bug 2015113
[15:12] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2015113 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "update-manager crashed with uaclient.exceptions.UrlError in request_url(): [Errno -3] Temporary failure in name resolution" [Medium, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2015113
[15:12] <vorlon> very nice to see - I think this is the lowest Foundations-owned FTBFS count we've had at a release for a while
[15:13] <bdmurray> There's an MP for that which I can sponsor today
[15:13] <juliank> Oh I approved that one
[15:13] <vorlon> so target and move forward?
[15:13] <bdrung> i can sponsor it
[15:13] <bdmurray> Right, somebody just needs to "carry it across the finish line"
[15:13] <bdmurray> Let's let bdrung do it then
[15:14] <juliank> not relevant for the release at least
[15:14] <juliank> right?
[15:14] <bdmurray> I think the release team can decide that you backseat driver
[15:14] <vorlon> probably not release-critical but why quibble, we can just accept the nomination and move on since it's in-flight
[15:14] <bdmurray> I'd want it in
[15:14] <juliank> just saying pro failures shouldn't be critical on non-pro releases :)
[15:15] <vorlon> upgrades from pro-enabled LTSes to non-pro-supported non-LTSes are supported
[15:15] <bdmurray> What's next?
[15:15] <juliank> bug 2012698
[15:15] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2012698 in plymouth (Ubuntu) "Plymouth is stuck on a plain black screen" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2012698
[15:15] <juliank> is in progress by desktop I think
[15:15] <vorlon> desktop team mostly handles plymouth video issues
[15:16] <juliank> bug 2015778
[15:16] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2015778 in binutils (Ubuntu) "conffile prompt during release upgrade" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2015778
[15:16] <juliank> that's an unfortunate difference in just copyright years
[15:16] <vorlon> conffile prompt from *binutils*? oh how we've fallen
[15:17] <juliank> not clear what was modified there tbh
[15:17] <bdmurray> Does anybody have that installed?
[15:17] <vorlon> $ debsums -s -e binutils-common
[15:17] <vorlon> $
[15:19] <vorlon> I think we should take this
[15:21] <enr0n> I will take this bug
[15:22] <juliank> #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-jj-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs
[15:22] <juliank> bug 1999345 is with security still
[15:23] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 1999345 in grub2 (Ubuntu) "please add luks2 module to the signed grub2 images" [Undecided, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1999345
[15:23] <juliank> nothing else
[15:23] <juliank> #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs
[15:23] <juliank> empty!
[15:23] <vorlon> juliank: I thought you had changed your mind about pushing for luks2?
[15:24] <juliank> vorlon: I think it would be a reasonable inclusion but it's not urgent I think
[15:24] <vorlon> juliank: IMHO it's not worth the security team's effort
[15:24] <juliank> because any install config your create is luks2
[15:24] <vorlon> we basically don't have installer support for not using a /boot partition when doing LUKS
[15:24] <juliank> I don't know if curtin and friends allow you to setup luks without /boot
[15:24] <vorlon> yeah not really
[15:24] <vorlon> *because* we knew it wasn't supported
[15:25] <vorlon> and then there'll be a LUKS3, and...
[15:25] <vorlon> so my $.02 is to retract this request
[15:25] <juliank> let's discuss in uefi meeting
[15:26] <juliank> I just want a quick chat with chris on this first
[15:26] <vorlon> ack
[15:26] <juliank> #topic Team proposed-migration report
[15:26] <juliank> #link http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs
[15:26] <vorlon> #link https://ubuntu-archive-team.ubuntu.com/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs
[15:26] <vorlon> people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive is dead ;)
[15:26]  * juliank updates script
[15:26] <vorlon> 0 packages needing attention, 4 packages not yet considered late
[15:26] <slyon> that boost (vs cmake) test seems to be running in cycles, bdmurray could you investigate that from a QA perspective?
[15:27] <vorlon> 3 packages of ours in -proposed that are in-flight
[15:27] <vorlon> and yeah the blocking autopkgtests are bad juju
[15:27] <slyon> I wonder if cmake should be skiptested, in order to let the FTBFS fix into the release (LP: #2015872)
[15:27] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 2015872 in cmake (Ubuntu) "FTBFS due to LTO on s390x" [Undecided, Fix Committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2015872
[15:27] <juliank> vorlon: anything is late by now :D
[15:28] <juliank> systemd blocks linux-lowlatency sounds bad for release?
[15:28] <vorlon> kernels often have lots of false-positive autopkgtest results
[15:28] <vorlon> because of the way britney triggers
[15:28] <vorlon> so I wouldn't invest any time on this from our side unless asked by kernel team
[15:28] <vorlon> the looping autopkgtests for icu and cmake, tho
[15:29] <bdmurray> Yeah, we (the QA team) can look at that
[15:29] <bdmurray> Although at this point in the day its me
[15:29] <juliank> Maybe you need a foundations helper buddy
[15:30] <juliank> I think that wraps that bit up, though
[15:30] <vorlon> yes
[15:30] <vorlon> back to you
[15:30] <juliank> #topic AOB
[15:30] <juliank> Any other business?
[15:31] <bdmurray> so bdrung will you upload update-manager today
[15:31] <bdrung> that's my plan
[15:31] <bdrung> doing that and then taking a break due to my cold
[15:32] <bdmurray> Thanks
[15:37] <juliank> #endmeeting
[15:37] <meetingology> Meeting ended at 15:37:00 UTC.  Minutes at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2023/ubuntu-meeting.2023-04-13-15.03.moin.txt
[15:37] <ginggs> thanks!