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[02:06] <lotuspsychje> good morning
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[21:16] <arraybolt3> Not sure if anyone else has noticed this, but the list of packages that would have security updates if I had enabled Ubuntu Pro isn't growing out of control - it shrinks too. Looks like people are porting those updates to typical Ubuntu. Which means not only has Ubuntu Pro not "taken anything away" from the existing Ubuntu community, but it's actually improving security for all Ubuntu
[21:16] <arraybolt3> users, whether they use Ubuntu Pro or not.
[21:16] <arraybolt3> Not sure what devs are putting in the effort to make that happen, but big thanks!
[21:19] <leftyfb> the packages getting updated as part of pro are from the universe repo, which is community maintained. I didn't see any mention that Canonical would be "upstreaming" their fixes to pro subscriptions to universe proper
[21:20] <arraybolt3> Well someone's doing it. Might not be Canonical themselves, but there's some dev or group of devs who must be SRUing the Ubuntu Pro changes into Universe, since I've been getting updates for fixes that were once in Ubuntu Pro only, IIUC.
[21:20] <arraybolt3> Or something similar to that at least.
[21:21] <leftyfb> I guess it's possible that the community maintainers are pulling in the (open source?) updates to their packages that Canonical is updating for profit?
[21:21] <arraybolt3> The updates (at least to the open-source packages) are open-source - you can pull the source packages from the pro repos on a machine that is attached to Ubuntu Pro.
[21:22] <arraybolt3> All I know is that the list of "Enable Ubuntu Pro to get updates for these packages" is shrinking sometimes, not growing forever.
[21:28] <JanC> the fixes to universe might not always the same as to Pro, of course
[21:28] <JanC> *be the same*
[21:30] <JanC> then again, it might still be useful, especially for professionals (who can pay for Pro), to get those fixes earlier
[21:31] <JanC> so it shouldn't really make much of a difference for Canonical's paying customers
[21:32] <JanC> and at the same time avoid most bad press from issues that otherwise wouldn't get fixed in universe
[21:32] <JanC> so it could be a win-win really
[21:32] <JanC> :-)
[21:33] <JanC> arraybolt3 / leftyfb what do you think?
[21:34] <arraybolt3> Agreed.
[21:35] <leftyfb> I never thought of the idea that if the patches Canonical released to pro never made it into universe, then the list of packages from the pro spam would be ever-growing. Hopefully they have addressed this in some way. I'm not sure how other than my thought above