[00:10] <jhutchins> BinarySavior: What was the final solution?
[00:11] <BinarySavior> jhutchins, `sudo update-initramfs -u -k all` then I rebooted, then reinstalled nvidia drivers, then rebooted again
[00:11] <jhutchins> BinarySavior: Only one initramfs update?
[00:13] <BinarySavior> Yes, I only ran that one time
[00:13] <jhutchins> Cool.  Thanks for the summary.
[00:57] <sarnold> Niclos: check out this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sudo/+bug/2003337 -- I wonder if it's related to your problems?
[00:57] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Launchpad bug 2003337 in sudo (Ubuntu) "update removes sss entry from nsswitch.conf" [Undecided, New]
[00:58] <jhutchins> The sudo update removes the sss entry?
[01:48] <relipse> Can someone help me out. I set up a dynamic dns with no-ip.org and pointed it to my ip. I set up a webserver on ubuntu in wsl2, when I go to http://192.168.1.149/ I can see the site, but when I go to my ip address it doesn't come up or when i go to the name i registered. It was working earlier but now it's not, but like I said i can get to the site when I go to http://192.168.1.149/ What am I doing wrong?
[01:49] <deego> relipse: first of all, that 192.xx is an internal ip
[01:49] <relipse> I know deego, i was just using that to show you that the virtualhost is set up properly
[01:49] <deego> (2) even if your dns setting all worked, it takes time to propagate.
[01:49] <deego>  
[01:50] <relipse> oh  you think it is a propagation issue?
[01:50] <relipse> can I message you the site and you can check it for me?
[01:50] <relipse> I'd rather not post it in public
[01:50] <deego> (3) visit something like https://ipv4.icanhazip.com/ to see your real ip, and if your dyndns worked, you should be able to dig it
[01:50] <deego> relipse: sure
[01:51] <sarnold> you may not be able to reach your external IP address from the machine you're testing with
[01:51] <sarnold> try starting a VM at amazon or something and see if you can curl it
[01:51] <relipse> sarnold: oh
[01:53] <relipse> sarnold: ok deego was able to connect to it just fine
[01:54] <relipse> it seems that I cannot get to it from my own router?
[01:54] <sarnold> probably
[01:54] <relipse> but why not?
[01:54] <sarnold> sorry I can't helkp more, i'm headed out
[01:54] <relipse> ok thanks , have a good night
[01:55] <sarnold> probably the machine has one idea of a local address, and you're trying to reach it on an address it doesn't know is has..
[01:55] <sarnold> it'll make perfect sense once you undersatand it all, but getting there takes a bit :(
[05:48] <migs> hello
[05:48] <migs> I am wondering why my screen is constanly dimming and getting brighter
[05:49] <migs> automatically
[05:49] <migs> during night mode
[07:24] <zetheroo2> Hi everyone, I have been using this script to automatically turn the WiFi off and on depending on whether or not the Ethernet cable is connected to my laptop: https://github.com/NetworkManager/NetworkManager/blob/main/man/nmcli-examples.xml#L324
[07:26] <zetheroo2> Everything works well, except for this -> If I shutdown with the Ethernet cable connected (so WiFi is off), the next time I boot up without the Ethernet cable connected the WiFi remains off and does not turn on automatically. I have to manually click on the 'Turn On' option in the WiFi settings.
[07:27] <zetheroo2> My colleague uses the exact same script and does not experience this issue.
[07:27] <zetheroo2> I have the Thinkpad P14s Gen1 and he has a later Gen Thinkpad X1 Yoga ... Gen3 I think.
[07:28] <zetheroo2> So chances are high that we have different networking hardware chipsets.
[07:34] <zetheroo2> Here is some output that might shed light on what the problem is https://pastebin.com/9s2krm5v
[07:41] <alkisg> zetheroo2: if you manually run the script, you need to pass a parameter to it, e.g.: sh /etc/NetworkManager/dispatcher.d/70-wifi-wired-exclusive.sh eth0 up
[07:41] <alkisg> Otherwise it won't do anything at all
[07:41] <alkisg> While to troubleshoot the actual issue, add this as the third line of your script: (echo "$0 $*"; env; nmcli dev) > /tmp/nm.$$
[07:41] <alkisg> Then reboot, then pastebin all the /tmp/nm.XXX log files
[07:43] <zetheroo2> alkisg: Ok, and I guess before rebooting I should connect the Ethernet cable to reproduce the issue on reboot - or?
[07:44] <alkisg> zetheroo2: right, do what you have to do so that the issue happens
[07:44] <zetheroo2> ok
[08:00] <zetheroo1> For some reason I cannot reproduce the issue now - I tried twice. But I also noticed that there are no /tmp/nm* files being written.
[08:00] <zetheroo1> Maybe this helps? https://pastebin.com/zJRwEsbR
[08:01] <zetheroo1> Apr 14 09:55:21 pco030 nm-dispatcher[1311]: /etc/NetworkManager/dispatcher.d/70-wifi-wired-exclusive.sh: line 3: syntax error near unexpected token `)'
[08:03] <zetheroo1> this is what I added to the third line of the script: echo "$0 $*"; env; nmcli dev) > /tmp/nm.$$
[08:03] <alkisg> zetheroo1: it means you have a syntax error, e.g. maybe you didn't type the parenthesis correctly
[08:04] <zetheroo1> alkisg: I didn't type it, I just copy/pasted what you wrote.
[08:05] <zetheroo1> should it be this? echo "$0 $*"; env; nmcli dev > /tmp/nm.$$
[08:06] <alkisg> zetheroo1: what's the output of this? cat /etc/NetworkManager/dispatcher.d/70-wifi-wired-exclusive.sh  | nc termbin.com 9999
[08:07] <zetheroo1> ok, I removed the ')' after 'nmcli dev' and now the script runs.
[08:07] <alkisg> That's not the correct solution
[08:07] <alkisg> Was it missing the initial ( before the echo?
[08:08] <zetheroo1>  this is what I added to the third line of the script: echo "$0 $*"; env; nmcli dev) > /tmp/nm.$$
[08:08] <alkisg> While to troubleshoot the actual issue, add this as the third line of your script: (echo "$0 $*"; env; nmcli dev) > /tmp/nm.$$
[08:08] <alkisg> See the ( difference
[08:08] <zetheroo1> ah yes, sry
[08:08] <alkisg> Actually change it to this:  (echo "$0 $*"; env; nmcli dev) >>/tmp/nm.txt
[08:09] <zetheroo1> ok this is what I have now https://termbin.com/gxpzq
[08:09] <alkisg> This will generate a single file, easier to handle
[08:09] <zetheroo1> oh ok :)
[08:09] <alkisg> OK, either will do
[08:10] <zetheroo1> current state of the script https://termbin.com/4sj3k
[08:10] <zetheroo1> alright - I'll try to reproduce this issue now again
[08:13] <zetheroo1> Ok, I was able to reproduce the issue
[08:14] <zetheroo1> https://pastebin.com/mZaTC0xs
[08:14] <zetheroo1> nm.txt ^
[08:19] <zetheroo1> alkisg: does that help?
[08:19] <alkisg> Checking...
[08:19] <zetheroo1> ok
[08:19] <alkisg> zetheroo1: well up to that point, there's no connection at all
[08:20] <alkisg> Let me see your script again...
[08:20] <alkisg> OK, the logic is wrong. You can't have an "up" or "down" event when there's no connection at all
[08:21] <alkisg> One change you could do would be to enable wifi on boot, then disable it when ethernet is up
[08:21] <alkisg> Wait for the proposed script...
[08:21] <zetheroo1> This script came from https://github.com/NetworkManager/NetworkManager/blob/main/man/nmcli-examples.xml#L324
[08:22] <zetheroo1> You mean that currently the WiFi is not enabled on boot?
[08:23] <zetheroo1> But then why is it that if the script had the syntax error that the WiFi came up on boot and I could not reproduce the issue?
[08:24] <zetheroo1> it's almost like if the script is working, the WiFi remains off on boot (after shutting down with the Ethernet connected)
[08:26] <alkisg> zetheroo1: try with this one instead: https://termbin.com/bnr3
[08:27] <zetheroo1> ok
[08:28] <zetheroo1> bbs
[08:33] <zetheroo2> alkisg: ok, wifi was on with boot!
[08:33] <alkisg> Great :)
[08:34] <zetheroo2> How do we know that the script ran on startup though?
[08:35] <alkisg> Since we removed the logging, you should be able to see it in the output of this: journalctl -b -u NetworkManager
[08:37] <zetheroo2> and how is it that this script is so much simpler than the previous one I was using? Do they do the same thing?
[08:39] <zetheroo2> ok, I re-added the logging to the script, so now I'll repeat the steps and see what the output is.
[08:43] <alkisg> zetheroo2: they "almost" do the same thing. Theirs doesn't function at all at boot. Mine functions at any event.
[08:43] <alkisg> And, assuming that re-running `nmcli radio wifi on` when it's already on, has no overhead, it ends up being much simpler
[08:44] <zetheroo1> alright.
[08:45] <zetheroo1> one thing I noticed being different with your script is that when the Ethernet is connected, the WiFi *cannot* be turned on - it's like a hardware switch has made it completely unavailable.
[08:45] <alkisg> When it's turned on, it causes an event; so then the script runs; and disables wifi,as ethernet is already on
[08:51] <alprolife> hi, can anyone to help me with this problem ? ==> curl: (7) Failed to connect to 127.0.1.1 port 443 after 0 ms: Connection refused
[08:53] <zetheroo1> ok, this is the output of your script https://pastebin.com/AaHki2S4
[08:54] <zetheroo1> on boot, that is
[08:55] <alkisg> Is there any issue to be solved?
[08:56] <zetheroo1> I think it's all good.
[08:56] <alkisg> OK. If you want the wifi to be able to go up while ethernet is connected, that can be done... if it's an actual use case...
[08:56] <zetheroo1> just funny to me how the other script seemed to be so much more complex :D
[08:57] <zetheroo1> alkisg: if possible that would be useful ..
[08:57] <zetheroo1> I have sometimes connected the ethernet to some device to be configured, while staying on the LAN with the WiFi
[09:02] <alkisg> zetheroo1: try changing the if to this: if ip -o r get 8.8.8.8 | grep -q 'dev en'; then
[09:02] <alkisg> This means "if my ethernet has access to the internet, then..." so if it's used only for direct connection, it won't be triggered
[09:05] <alprolife> hi, can anyone to help me with this problem ? ==> curl: (7) Failed to connect to 127.0.1.1 port 443 after 0 ms: Connection refused
[09:06] <alkisg> alprolife: you need to mention what you're trying to do. This command means "curl was unable to contact an https server in your own PC". Well, if you're not running a web server, it's OK that it fails.
[09:07] <alprolife> alkisg: if I try make the same command with 192.168.1.100 with my private IP it works
[09:07] <alkisg> alprolife: is  192.168.1.100 your own IP, or the IP of a PC in your LAN?
[09:08] <alprolife> alkisg: Ip of vm in lan
[09:08] <alkisg> Well, 127.0.1.1 is your OWN IP, not the one of the VM
[09:09] <alprolife> I habe wordpress on it and I have an issue on health status ... Error: cURL error 7: Failed to connect to example.com port 443
[09:09] <alkisg> You need to change "example.com" with the correct hostname
[09:10] <alprolife> "example.com" it's just an example
[09:10] <alkisg> OK, change it to an existing hostname
[09:11] <alprolife> same
[09:11] <alkisg> Can you actually type https://example.com and see wordpress?
[09:11] <zetheroo1> alkisg: ok, well then I'll leave it as is. I haven't needed that functionality in years .. :)
[09:11] <alkisg> 👍️
[09:11] <alprolife> alkisg: yes
[09:12] <alkisg> alprolife: from the PC where curl was running?
[09:13] <alprolife> with curl -v domain.tld no, connection refused
[09:13] <alkisg> And host domain.tld at that exact PC, points to 192.168.1.100?
[09:14] <alprolife> in /etc/hosts ? yes
[09:14] <alkisg> No, the exact command
[09:14] <alkisg> Without checking any files, run the command and see if it says 192.168.1.100
[09:15] <alprolife> how ?
[09:15] <alkisg> By opening a terminal and typing: host domain.tld
[09:15] <alprolife> it point the external IP
[09:16] <alkisg> And the external IP doesn't go back to the VM, right?
[09:16] <alkisg> Then you either need to fix that, or you need to point it to the internal IP
[09:16] <alprolife> alkisg: rDns you mean ?
[09:17] <alkisg> You go to the VM. You type curl domain.tld. It fails. You type host domain.tld. It gives you the external IP. Well, if the external IP doesn't reach the VM, of course it'll fail.
[09:19] <alprolife> alkisg: if I do nmap with host and port 443 it's open, if I curl domain.tld form another server it's works
[10:12] <Sambohambo> Hi team, I am new to ubuntu, I am having trouble installing the AMD graphics driver for Radeon r5
[10:12] <Sambohambo> Could someone please help?
[10:12] <lotuspsychje> Sambohambo: usualy amd graphics module loads automaticly
[10:12] <Sambohambo> How do i see if it has?
[10:13] <lotuspsychje> Sambohambo: sudo lshw -C video
[10:13] <lotuspsychje> Sambohambo: driver= would show here
[10:14] <Sambohambo> can i show you what the command showed?
[10:15] <lotuspsychje> Sambohambo: in a !paste plz
[10:15] <lotuspsychje> !paste
[10:17] <Sambohambo> https://dpaste.com/EAWSKJYL2
[10:17] <Sambohambo> looks like your right?
[10:19] <lotuspsychje> Sambohambo: looks loaded indeed, driver=amdgpu latency=0
[10:19] <Sambohambo> Thank you lotuspsychje
[10:19] <lotuspsychje> Sambohambo: do you experience graphic issues of some kind anyway?
[10:19] <Sambohambo> no i would just like to increase the screen resolution
[10:19] <Sambohambo> so i see more on the screen
[10:20] <Sambohambo> its on the maximum in settings but i know it could be higher
[10:20] <lotuspsychje> ah, ubuntu picks the res auto normaly, but you could try messing with xrandr
[10:20] <Sambohambo> Is that a good idea?
[10:21] <Sambohambo> what is standard resolution for 15 inch laptop
[10:21] <Sambohambo> I have 20/20 vision and would like more on the screen
[10:22] <lotuspsychje> Sambohambo: i got a 1920x1080 (16:9) on a 15,6" here
[10:22] <Sambohambo> ok what do i type in terminal for that?
[10:23] <lotuspsychje> Sambohambo: have a read here; https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution
[10:23] <Sambohambo> ok thank you, and thank you for your time, i appreciate it.
[10:24] <lotuspsychje> welcome Sambohambo
[10:25] <lotuspsychje> Sambohambo: the tuts from linuxconfig are usualy decent too; https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-configure-your-monitors-with-xrandr-in-linux
[11:46] <WeeBey> Morning! Just wondering if anyone knows of a fix for the "gjs-console" crashes with 22.10?
[12:26] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:34] <www2> he is there a way to force wireguard to use EUI-64?
[13:36] <leftyfb> www2: maybe try asking in #wireguard ?
[14:36] <Sven_vB> hi :) using nautilus in Ubuntu focal, I dragged a file into a subfolder in hopes to move it. however, the file is still there, with no visual indication what happened. I suspect that a new file has appeared in the original folder just at the moment before I started dragging, so I may have moved that one accidentially. can I use the ext3 journal to discover what files have been moved/renamed lately?
[14:38] <Sven_vB> back again. =) did my ext3 journal question get through?
[14:40] <CodeMouse92> Sven_vB Yes, no one's had an answer yet.
[14:40] <jhutchins> Sven_vB: Likely you copied instead of moving.  Check the manual for your file explorer and see if you need to shift-drag or ctrl-drag to move instead of copy.
[14:40] <leftyfb> Sven_vB: if the origin and destination are different filesystems, nautilus will default to copy, not move
[14:41] <leftyfb> Sven_vB: also, ext3? ext4 has been default for years
[14:41] <Sven_vB> jhutchins, thanks, I checked that, I did not copy.
[14:41] <jhutchins> Sven_vB: http://www.fifi.org/doc/gnome-users-guide/html/gnome-users-guide/C/nautilus.html
[14:42] <jhutchins> Sven_vB: Clearly you did, whether you meant to or not.
[14:42] <Sven_vB> leftyfb, somehow my nautilus defaults to move if the destination is on the same file system.
[14:42] <leftyfb> it doesn't
[14:42] <jhutchins> mv is umambiguous.
[14:42] <Sven_vB> oh sorry I was so confused. I uses thunar.
[14:43] <jhutchins> Sven_vB: https://docs.xfce.org/xfce/thunar/start
[14:43] <leftyfb> sorry, I don't have experience with thunar
[14:43] <leftyfb> Sven_vB: but in all seriousness, why are you still running ext3?
[14:44] <Sven_vB> leftyfb, it's an external hard drive that I sometimes use on windows, too, and there I only have ext2/ext3 drivers.
[14:44] <leftyfb> I would use NTFS
[14:45] <Sven_vB> does NTFS do symlinks?
[14:45] <zaggynl> sort of
[14:45] <leftyfb> not in linux
[14:45] <Sven_vB> then I have a good excuse. :D
[14:48] <Sven_vB> so I guess there's no easy way to read recent activity on the journal? on Stack Overflow I only find hints about how I could go about making my own reader program. I guess by the time I'd have that, the journal is full of newer events anyway.
[14:51] <inka290> hello
[14:51] <hsiktas[m]> is there anything bad about suspending to disk or why doesn't Ubuntu support it out of the box?
[14:52] <jhutchins> hsiktas[m]: What kind of hardware are you on?  How much RAM?  How big is your swapfile?
[14:53] <jhutchins> Sven_vB: journalctl has a pager.
[14:53] <hsiktas[m]> old Macbook Air, 8 GiB RAM, and I increased my swapfile from the default 2 to 16 GiB
[14:53] <jhutchins> Sven_vB: dmesg and /var/log/messages and .../syslog are still there.
[14:54] <jhutchins> hsiktas[m]: Might have been different when you installed it - swap needs to be 2x+ of RAM so the system can write RAM to the disk.
[14:54] <jhutchins> hsiktas[m]: You should be able to implement it through the power manager settings.
[14:55] <Sven_vB> jhutchins, sorry, I meant the ext3 journal of a disk
[15:01] <hsiktas[m]> it seems like enabling hibernation on a swapfile is more involved than with a swap partition
[15:05] <bancroft> Ubuntu 18.04 end of life is april 2023, does anyone have any specific date?
[15:08] <leftyfb> bancroft: https://computing.cs.cmu.edu/news/2022/eol-ubuntu-1804
[15:09] <bancroft> leftyfb: thanks!
[15:20] <jhutchins> Sven_vB: No, that has never been human readable.
[15:20] <jhutchins> Sven_vB: You'd have to dive pretty deep into the details of storage mechanics to understand it.
[15:21] <jhutchins> halvors: Yes.
[15:21] <jhutchins> halvors: Oops.
[15:21] <jhutchins> hsiktas[m]: Yesm it is.
[16:17] <Ders> hello
[16:17] <Ders> im not able to install cockpit via dnf
[16:18] <tomreyn> which ubuntu version are you asking about?
[16:18] <Ders> 20 i think
[16:18] <tomreyn> lsb_release -ds     would tell
[16:18] <Ders> https://paste.centos.org/view/24a19fe3
[16:18] <leftyfb> via dnf?
[16:18] <Ders> Ubuntu 22.04.2 LTS
[16:18] <Ders> tomreyn, Ubuntu 22.04.2 LTS
[16:19] <leftyfb> Ders: sudo apt install cockpit
[16:19] <Ders> leftyfb, via https://cockpit-project.org/running
[16:19] <tomreyn> ...does not mention "dnf" for the ubuntu installation
[16:20] <Ders> Restarting services...
[16:20] <Ders>  systemctl restart docker.service libvirtd.service ModemManager.service NetworkManager.service unattended-upgrades.service user@1000.service
[16:20] <Ders> i select all of them that required to restart*
[16:21] <Ders>  sudo systemctl enable --now cockpit.socket
[16:21] <Ders> Job failed. See "journalctl -xe" for details.
[16:22] <Ders> tomreyn, leftyfb https://paste.centos.org/view/5155a900
[16:23] <tomreyn> so how did you install it?
[16:23] <tomreyn> since apparently it is already installed?
[16:23] <Ders> i install that
[16:23] <Ders> i was removed old one.
[16:23] <leftyfb> removed the old one?
[16:23] <Ders> sudo systemctl enable --now cockpit.socket
[16:24] <Ders> when i type sudo systemctl enable --now cockpit.socket
[16:24] <Ders> it give error
[16:24] <Ders> i paste here. https://paste.centos.org/view/5155a900
[16:26] <tomreyn> apparently you are following some guide, but we don't know which. you're also not answering questions.
[16:26] <Ders> https://www.techrepublic.com/article/install-cockpit-ubuntu-better-server/
[16:26] <Ders> tomreyn, i just try to enable that
 Ders: sudo apt install cockpit << after that i tried that
[16:27] <leftyfb> Ders: ( cat /etc/os-release ; uname -a ; apt-cache policy cockpit ; systemctl status cockpit ) | nc termbin.com 9999
[16:28] <tomreyn> so you installed using apt, and not from backports, ok
[16:28] <Ders> yes
[16:28] <tomreyn> why were you asking about dnf then?
[16:28] <Ders> cat /etc/os-release ; uname -a ; apt-cache policy cockpit ; systemctl status cockpit ) | nc termbin.com 9999
[16:28] <Ders> -bash: syntax error near unexpected token `)'
[16:29] <leftyfb> Ders: you missed the ( at the beginning
[16:29] <Ders> tomreyn that was first time i was trying with that because i never installed
[16:29] <leftyfb> Ders: please copy and paste the entire thing
[16:29] <leftyfb> Ders:            ( cat /etc/os-release ; uname -a ; apt-cache policy cockpit ; systemctl status cockpit ) | nc termbin.com 9999
[16:29] <Ders> ( cat /etc/os-release ; uname -a ; apt-cache policy cockpit ; systemctl status cockpit ) | nc termbin.com 9999
[16:29] <Ders> https://termbin.com/sxr17
[16:30] <leftyfb> Ders: systemctl -xeu cockpit | nc termbin.com 9999
[16:30] <Ders> systemctl -xeu cockpit | nc termbin.com 9999
[16:30] <Ders> systemctl: invalid option -- 'x'
[16:31] <leftyfb> sorry
[16:31] <leftyfb> Ders: journalctl -xeu cockpit | nc termbin.com 9999
[16:31] <Ders> https://termbin.com/kon2
[16:34] <leftyfb> Ders: are you running this in docker or podman?
[16:34] <Ders> i did not install both yet
[16:34] <Ders> no podman
[16:34] <opiz2> Hello guys. Good to be here. I'm fiffling with the orange pi z2 and looking to overclock, also allow some more gpu memory. Any help appreciated. Oh... I'm runnin OPi os
[16:34] <Ders> no docker
[16:34] <leftyfb> opiz2: please seek support from your distro vendor
[16:34] <Ders> leftyfb you can suggest me which i have to install?
[16:34] <leftyfb> Ders: I don't
[16:34] <opiz2> Hello guys. Good to be here. I'm fiddling with the orange pi z2 and looking to overclock, also allow some more gpu memory. Any help appreciated. Oh... I'm runnin OPi os
[16:35] <tomreyn> opiz2: sorry, this channel only supports ubuntu proper. try #linux
[16:35] <jhutchins> opiz2: This channel is Ubuntu support.  You want either a pi channel or an OPi channel.
[16:35] <opiz2> this is ubuntu 18.04
[16:35] <jhutchins> opiz2: What's OPi then?
[16:36] <opiz2> orange pi zero 2
[16:36] <leftyfb> opiz2: not only is it not "ubuntu 18.04", but BASED on ubuntu 18.04, but Ubuntu 18.04 proper will be EOL in 16 days
[16:36] <leftyfb> opiz2: show us the link where you downloaded the OS for your device
[16:36] <leftyfb> Ders: please do not PM
[16:37] <Ders> leftyfb, ok what you suggest ?
[16:37] <opiz2> i'm not lookin to sky-rocket it's performance... as I said it's only fiddlin... I'm a learner Sir
[16:38] <leftyfb> Ders: in my opinion, I don't ever suggest using cockpit. I suggest learning how to manage and configure your server from the command line
[16:38] <leftyfb> opiz2: show us the link where you downloaded the OS for your device
[16:39] <opiz2> as soon as it loads ... lol
[16:40] <opiz2> http://www.orangepi.org/html/hardWare/computerAndMicrocontrollers/service-and-support/Orange-Pi-Zero-2.html
[16:40] <leftyfb> opiz2: please seek support from Orange Pi or from #linux
[16:42] <tomreyn> Ders: i think your best option is to uninstall / reverse any installation steps you took, then     sudo apt update && sudo apt install cockpit    and then see if already work (i assume it will), and whether you got further setup instructions in /usr/share/doc/cockpit*
[16:43] <opiz2> oki doky
[16:48] <Ders> tomreyn, how to do that?
[16:50] <tomreyn> Ders: you take the same steps you took, but in reverse
[16:51] <tomreyn> although where you ran "install" comands, you will need to run "uninstall" or "purge"
[16:51] <leftyfb> remove, not uninstall
[16:51] <tomreyn> oops, right, thanks
[16:52] <tomreyn> at least when it comes to apt
[16:52] <Ders> removed now
[16:52] <Ders> whats nexst?
[16:52] <leftyfb> tomreyn: thinking of pip? :)
[16:52] <tomreyn> leftyfb: not thinking at all
[16:52] <leftyfb> ah right, Friday :)
[16:52] <tomreyn> :)
[16:53] <tomreyn> Ders: see above?
[16:54] <Ders> https://paste.centos.org/view/b4abe72b
[16:55] <Ders> tomreyn, leftyfb did you check that?
[16:56] <tomreyn> this is bascially trying to tell you that you need to replace or remove the apt repository configuration for the nginx/stable ppa you currently have configured, because it provides no packages for your ubuntu release
[16:56] <tomreyn> there is more housekeeping to be done, but the rest is warnings, not errors
[16:57] <leftyfb> Ders: it really seems to me like you're trying to run cockpit in docker. That's the only thing I can find online pertaining to your error messages
[16:57] <Ders> im doing without docker
[16:59] <Ders> actually i wanted to use cockpit as window.
[16:59] <leftyfb> as window?
[16:59] <Ders> yes
[16:59] <Ders> vm
[17:02] <tomreyn> after installing cockpit using apt, what happens when you run this on the server?     echo "Click here: https://$(curl api.ipify.org):9090"
[17:03] <Ders> nothing work
[17:03] <tomreyn> so it does not print any text?
[17:04] <Ders> http://80.114.72.118:9090/
[17:05] <tomreyn> i get to see a jetty generated http error message at that location
[17:05] <stevessss> so redursive du of /mnt/disk shows 135GB used in total of all recursively measured file sizes
[17:05] <stevessss> df of /mnt/disk shows 872GB of 1.1TB used and that its 92% full
[17:05] <stevessss> fsck and reboot in order?
[17:06] <stevessss> maybe create new file system on a duplicate disk  and copy data, then wipe+copy back
[17:06] <Ders> stevessss that is for me or someone else?
[17:07] <Ders> tomreyn, yes
[17:07] <stevessss> I'm thinking tar and dd are good friends.. copy partition table to duplicate disk.. wipe the main fs on duplicate disk and mkfs.ext4 and tar to copy back as root
[17:07] <leftyfb> stevessss: do you have an ubuntu support question?
[17:08] <stevessss> what the common causes of a disk having more consumed space than file-size total?
[17:08] <stevessss> (by far more than the usual 15%)
[17:08] <tomreyn> Ders: so i would not call this "nothing work", otherwise you'd not get any response at all. now try following https://cockpit-project.org/guide/latest/guide and, if you need more help, contact the cockpit support channel / forum, if any.
[17:08] <leftyfb> stevessss: other mounted filesystems
[17:08] <stevessss> no.. I mounted in a subfolder with no other sub-mounts and df shows its full, but du recursive shows a fraction of its df usage
[17:09] <stevessss> du -s run as root with permission to read all files recursively
[17:09] <stevessss> sorry.. du -H /mnt/disk
[17:09] <tomreyn> use -x for a single file system
[17:09] <leftyfb> stevessss: try df -Hl /mnt/disk
[17:10] <stevessss> I like -s for summary
[17:10] <leftyfb> tomreyn: -x requires specifying a filesystem type, not necessarily a single filesystem
[17:10] <stevessss> 145416248
[17:10] <leftyfb> stevessss: what are those numbers exactly?
[17:10] <tomreyn> leftyfb: -x to du? no, this doesn'T require additional parameters
[17:11] <stevessss> /dev/nvme0n1p2    63M  1.9M   61M    3% /r2
[17:11] <tomreyn> "       -x, --one-file-system              skip directories on different file systems"
[17:11] <leftyfb> tomreyn: my bad, I was looking at df
[17:11] <tomreyn> but i guess -x won't increae the amount du returns (to match the *higher* amount df reports)
[17:11] <leftyfb> stevessss: please clarify the information you are posting and why
[17:11] <stevessss> du -hs /r2 shows 136GB
[17:12] <stevessss> I'm trying to figure out where the difference between 873GB on df and 136GB on du -hs commands is comming from
[17:12] <stevessss> it doesn't seem to be inodes
[17:12] <stevessss> zombie files?
[17:13] <leftyfb> stevessss: try sudo ncdu /r2
[17:13] <tomreyn> i agree about the potential need to fsck while FS offline, and reboot to get rid of open file handles to deleted files
[17:14] <tomreyn> which file systems are we talking about though?
[17:14] <stevessss> https://imgur.com/a/PTS4iIB
[17:15] <stevessss> ext4
[17:15] <tomreyn> and which ubuntu version, kernel version?
[17:16] <tomreyn> lsb_release -ds && cat /proc/{version.cmdline}
[17:16] <stevessss> Ubuntu 20.04.3 LTS \n \l
[17:16] <stevessss> Linux version 5.13.0-28-generic (buildd@lgw01-amd64-035) (gcc (Ubuntu 9.3.0-17ubuntu1~20.04) 9.3.0, GNU ld (GNU Binutils for Ubuntu) 2.34) #31~20.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Wed Jan 19 14:08:10 UTC 2022
[17:16] <leftyfb> stevessss: why so out of date?
[17:16] <leftyfb> stevessss: maybe try running updates and rebooting
[17:16] <stevessss> reboot first probably
[17:16] <leftyfb> no
[17:17] <stevessss> then updates and 2nd reboot
[17:17] <leftyfb> update first
[17:17] <leftyfb> 20.04.3 came out 2 years ago
[17:17] <stevessss> this system was installed 2 years ago
[17:17] <leftyfb> and you haven't updated since?
[17:17] <tomreyn> if there's a reason to assume broken file system then i'd be with steve
[17:17] <Ders> tomreyn leftyfb, now that giving this error https://paste.centos.org/view/596aa53c
[17:18] <leftyfb> Ders: why are you showing ssh logs?
[17:18] <stevessss> also upgrades go better when there is enough free space to complete all dpkg operations and after a fresh fsck that comes completely clean
[17:18] <leftyfb> stevessss: good luck
[17:19] <stevessss> maybe new hd and keep old fs for data-recovery purposes to copy files off it
[17:19] <Ders> leftyfb, want to know how to fix that/
[17:19] <stevessss> and ubuntu22.04 on new disk
[17:20] <leftyfb> Ders: are you Toni from yesterday?
[17:20] <Ders> no
[17:21] <leftyfb> Ders: so you just happen to also be running a publicly accessible server with ssh wipe open and want to install cockpit and wondering why your server is being bombarded with ssh attempts (and will eventually get through)?
[17:21] <leftyfb> wipe/wide/
[17:21] <matrixy> should i turn off ppa if i do dist upgrade when it comes out
[17:21] <matrixy> and uninstall the ppa app
[17:22] <tomreyn> matrixy: what do you meanby "when it comes out"?
[17:22] <leftyfb> matrixy: do-release-upgrade is the proper way to upgrade between Ubuntu releases, not dist-upgrade. And yes, you should 100% remove all PPA's and the packages installed from them before the upgrade
[17:22] <matrixy> i mean 23.04
[17:22] <leftyfb> Ders: https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/eight-ways-secure-ssh
[17:22] <matrixy> ok do-release-upgrade
[17:23] <matrixy> and then ill do autoremove after i uninstall
[17:23] <tomreyn> matrixy: generally, release upgrades (using do-release-upgrade or update-manager -c) are only supported from clean ubuntu to clean ubuntu installations. that means they can (and often do) fail if you have any third party / ppa software installed, or such apt repositories active.
[17:24] <Ders> leftyfb, ok
[17:24] <matrixy> ok
[17:25] <matrixy> well all the important stuffs on a second 1tb hdd
[17:25] <matrixy> i have the system on a 1tb ssd i have all that space and dont use it for anything hehe
[17:53] <monty_hall> Any "find" experts?
[17:54] <monty_hall> Here's what I want to do: "find . -path "some blah dir" -type d -exec bash -c "mv ${1}/*SOME_PATTERN* ${1}/boneyard" {} \;
[17:54] <monty_hall> I did something similar to this before and it worked.
[17:55] <monty_hall> Here's what I want to do: "find . -path "some blah dir" -type d -exec bash -c "echo ${1}" {} \;" <- for sanity check this keeps returning empty
[17:57] <soporteit> Hola
[17:58] <soporteit> alguien de habla hispana?
[17:58] <tomreyn> !es | soporteit
[17:58] <tomreyn> monty_hall: use -printf
[17:59] <soporteit> Gracias
[17:59] <tomreyn> de nada
[18:01] <monty_hall> I don't want to print the "print" was just used as a sanity check.
[18:01] <monty_hall> What I really want is -exec bash -c "mv ${0}/*SOME_PATTERN* ${0}/boneyard" {}
[18:06] <monty_hall> hmm.  bash -c "echo ${0}" blah isn't printing "blah"
[18:08] <monty_hall> maybe there's a #bash channel
[18:08] <tomreyn> most certainly
[18:10] <leftyfb> monty_hall: maybe try | xargs instead of -exec
[18:11] <leftyfb> personally something like that, I try not to force it all into 1-liner
[18:12] <monty_hall> OMG:  bash -c "echo ${0}" blah isn't printing "blah" BAD ->  bash -c 'echo ${0}' blah isn't printing "blah" GOOD
[18:26] <rfm> monty_hall, try:  find . -type d -exec bash -c 'echo "${1}" {}' \;
[18:27] <rfm> monty_hall, need the {} inside the quoted -c arg so itś an arg to the command not to the outer bash
[18:31] <rfm> monty_hall, hmm no, thatś still not right, ...
[18:32] <leftyfb> rfm: they've been getting help in #bash
[18:35] <rfm> leftyfb, thanks
[18:35] <zyeri> hi, I have some ubuntu 18.04 VMs that are throwing 502 errors when I try to run apt update. Googling around suggests a few things it could be (bad mirrors, expired certs) but the suggested solutions I found don't seem to work in my case. Is there anything else I could try? I'm stuck at this point on how to approach the problem.
[18:44] <leftyfb> zyeri: please pastebin the errors
[18:45] <zyeri> err sorry, 503 errors not 502. my bad
[18:45] <zyeri> sure just a sec
[18:45] <leftyfb> zyeri: also, check the date and time on your machine
[18:46] <zyeri> https://pastebin.com/i1pevKDE
[18:46] <leftyfb> zyeri: that's not ubuntu 18.04
[18:47] <zyeri> lsb_release -a says 18.04
[18:47] <leftyfb> then you have a seriously broken system
[18:47] <leftyfb> zyeri: all your repo's are focal (20.04)
[18:48] <zyeri> huh, I have no idea how that happened
[18:49] <leftyfb> zyeri: ( cat /etc/os-release ; uname -a ; cat /etc/apt/sources.list ) | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:52] <zyeri> sorry it seems our VPN blocks termbin, just a moment
[18:53] <leftyfb> more than likely port 9999
[18:53] <zyeri> https://pastebin.com/BCdJtQRM
[18:54] <zyeri> I'm confirming our template code and infra deployment code isn't touching the mirror list at all, but AFAIK it definitely doesn't so I have no idea why they would be changed
[18:54] <leftyfb> zyeri: grep -Rl focal /etc/apt/sources.list*
[18:55] <zyeri> no entries
[18:55] <leftyfb> that makes no sensem your apt update was pulling from focal, not bionic
[18:56] <zyeri> yeah, and I checked, nothing in either code base touches ubuntu mirrors, only fedora and rhel
[18:56] <leftyfb> huh?
[18:57] <zyeri> issue I'm having is on a VM related to test infra deployment, so we _do_ have code that touches mirrors, but they're restricted so they only ever run on the very specific machines they're supposed to
[18:58] <leftyfb> zyeri: step #1 find out why your bionic machine is attempting to pull from focal repo's as is shown in your original paste
[19:02] <Toni12> Hello experts, I wanna ask you plz, what does this error means and what is causing it? https://imgur.com/a/JZzsmWr
[19:03] <sarnold> Toni12: you tried to run more programs than you have hardware for
[19:03] <sarnold> Toni12: buying more memory or running less software are good choices
[19:04] <sarnold> Toni12: adding more swap space might help but it might just make the system horrible to use
[19:04] <Toni12> you mean buying more from my hosting plan?
[19:04] <sarnold> yes
[19:04] <Toni12> okay will do this, thanks!
[19:17] <push> hello, anyone here?
[19:17] <sarnold> over a thousand people..
[19:19] <push> coolio! im new here, how you do?
[19:23] <Niclos> how to add users to the groups by using the group id on ubuntu 22.04, the group is not a local group, its an AD group. I tried this #ubuntu  usermod -aG local domain  tester1  -->not working
[19:24] <Niclos> sudo usermod -g local domain  tester1
[19:24] <tomreyn> does "getent group" list the group?
[19:25] <Niclos> tomreyn : not on the list.
[19:25] <tomreyn> then your ad integration is incomplete. complete it and when it is, use sudo adduser <usertoaddtogroup> <grouptoaddto>
[19:25] <sarnold> push: welcome :)
[19:27] <push> I just got Xubuntu because i felt like 20,4 was kind of slow, or is it just because im a total newbieface?
[19:27] <mruser> Hello
[19:28] <push> Btw sarnold, is this like Irc btw? O
[19:28] <push> i remeber haning out on Quakenet back in the day :D
[19:28] <leftyfb> !offtopic | push
[19:28] <sarnold> push: heh, yeah, this is irc, though you might be coming through a bridged protocol or something
[19:29] <push> hah! thats fun! i just lanuched Hexchat on xubuntu for the lolz
[19:30] <tomreyn> push: normal ubuntu would seem slow if your computer's technical specifications were below what's recommended.
[19:31] <tomreyn> ...or if drivers are not working properly.
[19:31] <push> i guess its the last thing you said, because the pc is "ok" ish. Lenovo L480
[19:31] <push> prolly me being a total noob at gnome stuff.
[19:32] <push> last time i used anything else than bill gates puke was 20 years ago and that was for a very breif time with Slackware, didnt really understand it that much eiether tbh
[19:34] <tomreyn> Lenovo L480 seems to vome with a minimum of 4 GB RAM, 8th gen intel cpu, intel hd 620 internal graphics. this should work fine with gnome.
[19:35] <leftyfb> !offtopic | push
[19:35] <sarnold> probably a browser wouldn't feel fun in 4gigs ram, 8gigs ought to work fine most of the time but become very frustrating once in awhile
[19:36] <tomreyn> there are also 8,16,32 gb models, though
[19:37] <push> not sure how i see the specs on xubuntu, or any ubuntu for that matter, hehe :/
[19:38] <tomreyn> journalctl -b | grep DMI:     can help
[19:38] <sarnold> free -g might be good enough
[19:39] <tomreyn> free -g   would show installed ram
[19:39] <Niclos> tomreyn : but, I can give any ownership to a local domain, I don't know why when it comes to the group.
[19:40] <push> total 7, used 2, free 1
[19:40] <push> is that in gb?
[19:40] <tomreyn> yes
[19:40] <push> so 7 is 7 or 8 ?
[19:40] <push> strange to have 7gb tho
[19:40] <tomreyn> Niclos: sorry, i lack experience in that 'domain' (pun intended). you'll need to talk to someone more familiar with sssd (if you used this)
[19:41] <tomreyn> push: 1 is probably in use by your integrated graphics ("shared" vram)
[19:41] <push> ahh, makes sens
[19:41] <tomreyn> where shared means stolen ;)
[19:41] <sarnold> :)
[19:42] <Niclos> okay. yes, I used sssd.
[19:42] <iconoclasthero> i just installed archbang on a machine running ubuntu 22.10...  if I do sudo os-prober: "/dev/nvme0n1p5:Arch Linux (rolling):Arch:linux" and update-grub "Found Arch Linux (rolling) on /dev/nvme0n1p5" but the Arch partition isn't showing up
[19:42] <push> one thing i noticed was that my wifi went from 3/4 to 2/4 when i just installed Xubuntu, im still sitting in bed. Could that be a driver thingy?
[19:42] <iconoclasthero> I'm looking at grub-customizer and i see my ubuntu entries, one for windows boot manager, UEFI Firmeware sttings, an old 22.04 install that is defunct, but no Arch.
[19:43] <iconoclasthero> I'm wondering if it has something to do with
[19:43] <iconoclasthero> /dev/nvme0n1p1: LABEL_FATBOOT="ESP" LABEL="ESP" UUID="BA6F-2F68" BLOCK_SIZE="512" TYPE="vfat" PARTLABEL="EFI system partition" PARTUUID="a895c7c7-78fe-4381-b3ab-16dfe013345e"
[19:43] <iconoclasthero> /dev/nvme0n1p8: LABEL_FATBOOT="ESP" LABEL="ESP" UUID="BA6F-2F68" BLOCK_SIZE="512" TYPE="vfat" PARTUUID="87fabc2f-3687-47b8-a673-1ddc8c8ed1bc"
[19:43] <iconoclasthero> $ mount /dev/nvme0n1p8 /dev/nvme0n1p8 on /boot/efi type vfat (rw,relatime,fmask=0077,dmask=0077,codepage=437,iocharset=iso8859-1,shortname=mixed,errors=remount-ro)
[19:44] <iconoclasthero> that's the only one mounted.
[19:44] <tomreyn> !paste | iconoclasthero
[19:44] <iconoclasthero> grub-mkconfig (GRUB) 2.06-2ubuntu12.1
[19:46] <tomreyn> push: that's really hard to tell, identifying root causes of why you get wireless reception at this vs that level at this and that place is tough.
[19:47] <iconoclasthero> anyway, os-prober can see the new install but i can't get update-grub to actually put it into (?) grub.cfg
[19:48] <push> yeah, true. its fine tho, dont really need much more
[19:49] <push> btw, this is maybe not the best place to ask or maybe it is, is there any point for me to install Debian ? i feel like begin on ubuntu is already a sort of "steep" learning curve.
[19:49] <push> Thinking that im really casual user anyway
[19:52] <tomreyn> i'm not sure that debian will be easier really. there is a bit of a steep learning curve, or can be, if you want it to be, if you're migrating from a very different operating system. but the basic mechanisms you should have learnt after a week, and then you can spend more time on learning getting around in a terminal, but that's not strictly required nowadays - though still tremendously helpful.
[19:52] <tomreyn> we also only recommend ubuntu here, so for other distros, you could ask in #linux (or #debian)
[19:54] <push> ok cool!
[19:54] <push> do you consider Xubuntu Ubuntu?
[19:54] <push> only reason im on xubuntu was that i tried to make my ubuntu a tad faster you see
[19:54] <tomreyn> we consider xubuntu a recognized ubuntu flavor
[19:54] <tomreyn> !flavor
[19:55] <push> ahh cool!
[19:55] <push> Thanks so much for taking the time and replying Tomreyn
[19:55] <tomreyn> so there's also #xubuntu, which may be the better place if you have a question about the graphical user interface
[19:55] <tomreyn> you're welcome push
[19:56] <push> Maybe i just should get back to the Ubuntu regulatore and try to peak it from there, even tho i have the skills compared too an over boiled potato
[19:59] <tomreyn> if you would like to get a better idea about the slowness, you can look for system errors using the "Logs" application or "journalctl -b -p3"
[20:00] <push> Shanks!
[20:01] <push> kernel: x86/cpu: SGX disabled by BIOS.
[20:01] <push> is that bad?
[20:01] <tomreyn> not necessarily, no
[20:01] <push> april 14 21:03:40 Push-Jobb-pc kernel: x86/cpu: SGX disabled by BIOS.
[20:01] <push> april 14 21:03:44 Push-Jobb-pc tlp[825]: Error: tlp.service is not enabled, power saving will not apply on boot.
[20:01] <push> april 14 21:03:44 Push-Jobb-pc tlp[825]: >>> Invoke 'systemctl enable tlp.service' to correct this!
[20:01] <push> april 14 21:03:44 Push-Jobb-pc tlp[903]: Error: tlp.service is not enabled, power saving will not apply on boot.
[20:01] <push> april 14 21:03:44 Push-Jobb-pc tlp[903]: >>> Invoke 'systemctl enable tlp.service' to correct this!
[20:01] <push> april 14 21:03:45 Push-Jobb-pc kernel: Bluetooth: hci0: Malformed MSFT vendor event: 0x02
[20:02] <tomreyn> !paste | push
[20:03] <tomreyn> push: you can talk again (and we can read you again) now.
[20:03] <push> ahh ok sry! https://dpaste.com/7M4TDSBJ8
[20:04] <push> and thanks good bot! keeping me in line
[20:06] <quackgyver> is there a printer management system for ubuntu that doesn't suck
[20:06] <matsaman> what's a printer management system?
[20:06] <tomreyn> push: i think these errors are rather irrelevant. none of them chould cause the computer to seem slow also. but then these are from xubuntu, which i understand is not slow.
[20:07] <quackgyver> anything that lets me manage printers via a gui
[20:07] <matsaman> like add & remove them as available printers?
[20:07] <quackgyver> yes
[20:07] <tomreyn> there's cupds, and i'd say it's good. but you seem to have a different opinion on it.
[20:08] <tomreyn> *cupsd
[20:08] <quackgyver> That's not a GUI though right
[20:09] <tomreyn> push: if you'd like to read up on SGX (a probably rather complicated topic): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_Guard_Extensions
[20:09] <quackgyver> or GUI-based manager rather.
[20:09] <quackgyver> I just want a GUI-based interface that allows me to add/remove printers
[20:09] <tomreyn> quackgyver: there are GUIs for CUPS, gnome provides one. and there's the web ui at :631
[20:09] <push> Perkele Tomreyn! are you finnish! I just got xubuntu like the second i join this channel, not sure what i feel about it, but i seems a tad faster
[20:09] <quackgyver> something that isn't whatever unfathomably bad manager that comes built into Ubuntu that is
[20:10] <push> ill read, worst case ill dont understand anything
[20:10] <tomreyn> push: i have no finnish roots, no. does something still feel slow, though?
[20:11] <quackgyver> hm, it says that my system already has cups installed
[20:16] <quackgyver> i set up cups and for some reason it detects two different versions of the same printer
[20:17] <quackgyver> for some reason it has like 10 copies of the same driver too
[20:17] <quackgyver> when setting up prniters
[20:18] <quackgyver> its just a long list of duplicates
[20:19] <push> yes it feels kinda slow still. I tried to follow itsfoss guide to make it ubuntu faster
[20:19] <push> thats how i came across xubuntu
[20:20] <quackgyver> what the heck
[20:20] <quackgyver> when you go into "printer details" in the printers list in ubuntu
[20:20] <quackgyver> why the heck does the dialogue box not have a save button
[20:20] <quackgyver> like, it allows you to change the name of the printer, but theres no way to actually save the change
[20:20] <push> even when i write a webpage in my browser the text appers slow, also when i switch between programs etc
[20:20] <tomreyn> push: if you like you could post your kernel log like this, and we can have a look at it together:   journalctl -k | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:21] <push> ok
[20:21] <quackgyver> horrendous UX
[20:22] <tomreyn> quackgyver: so, as you may know by now, this is not the venting place. if you have a concrete support question, please ask, and provide details. if you are unhappy with some user experience, then please writer a blog post somewhere.
[20:22] <quackgyver> shh
[20:22] <tomreyn> yes, that's the short form of what i just wrote.
[20:23] <quackgyver> a bit of purple prose never hurt anyone
[20:23] <quackgyver> the question was: "why the heck does the dialogue box not have a save button"
[20:23] <push> https://termbin.com/0ghn
[20:28] <tomreyn> push: ok,ay i'm reading, you have the latest ubuntu 22.04 'HWE' kernel, that's good, it seems you have installed most updates.
[20:28] <tomreyn> make sure it's really uptodate, though
[20:28] <tomreyn> !uptodate
[20:29] <tomreyn> the bios version looks old, it may do you good to get a newer one. you have BIOS R0QET57W (1.34 ) 06/03/2019 for this lenovo model 20LTS1XE00
[20:29]  * tomreyn reading on
[20:30] <push> thanks!
[20:33] <tomreyn> push: you have "secure boot" enabled in bios (uefi). most people will have a better experience when it's off, while not compromising security in a way that matters to them.
[20:34] <push> ok ill try to update bios and remove safe boot
[20:37] <tomreyn> push: i'm still readong, at ~ 50%, but proceed as you like.
[20:42] <tomreyn> push: i assume the web browser you said is slow is chromium. can you compare to firefox?
[20:45] <tomreyn> push: cups-proxyd crashed for some readon. but i assume this won't cause the slowness. chromium might, though.
[20:45] <tomreyn> *reason
[20:45] <jhutchins> There is a severe vulnerability in secure boot that will persist on a re-formatted drive (clean install).
[20:48] <arraybolt3> jhutchins: If it's public, paste a link, otherwise report it to the respective software devs.
[20:49] <tomreyn> push:i'm done reading btw. no additional findings. you summed it up well, i think.
[20:52] <jhutchins> arraybolt3: It's been well reported.
[20:52] <jhutchins> arraybolt3: The news stories were a couple of weeks ago.
[20:53] <jhutchins> Some people just enable anything and everything labeled "scure" without any idea of what it does.
[20:55] <towser> when I'm trying to build Audactity I get the error "make: *** No rule to make target 'nproc'.  Stop.
[20:55] <towser> " how do I fix this?
[20:56] <leftyfb> towser: sudo apt install audacity
[20:56] <leftyfb> towser: or if you think you need a newer version: sudo snap install audacity
[20:57] <jhutchins> towser: There probably was a "Configure" step you missed.  Was there a readme in the source package?
[20:58] <tomreyn> you don't run "make -j nproc" verbatim
[20:58] <arraybolt3> ^ that
[20:58] <arraybolt3> Was just about to say that.
[20:58] <arraybolt3> "make -j $(nproc)"
[20:59] <arraybolt3> Or if you already know how many logical CPUs your system has, "make -j X" where X is your number of logical processors.
[21:02] <push> Thnaaks tomreyn! So basically update bios, remove Chormium and not safe boot. thats that?
[21:03] <tomreyn> push: no need to remove chromium. first disable "secure boot" in bios, then check whether this already imrpoves things. if chromium is still slow, compare it to firefox, and report back. upgrading the bios is a good idea but not urgent.
[21:04] <push> ok, see you soon
[21:04] <tomreyn> see you, good luck
[21:04] <bray90820> So i'm having an issue every time I get a notifacation my screen turns on but doesn't turn off again
[21:05] <bray90820> I'm running 22.10 if it matters
[21:09] <push> Hey im back, seems like there is some stupid lock on my Bios and i cant change anything, jeezuz
[21:09] <push> is it possible to reset Cmos or something ? idk what to do
[21:09] <leftyfb> push: maybe try #hardware
[21:12] <matrixy> take out the battery and hold the power button
[21:13] <matrixy> that little circle battery
[21:13] <tomreyn> this is a laptop
[21:13] <matrixy> oh
[21:14] <jhutchins> push: It depends on the unit.  I had one where I had to build a special parallel port plug that bypassed the CMOS password.
[21:14] <jhutchins> Aw, ya scared him off.
[21:15] <matrixy> my laptop has a battery that looks like a circle with tape around it with red and black wires that plug into two pins
[21:15] <matrixy> something like that remove and hold power down
[21:17] <jhutchins> Better yet, look for the instructions for your specific computer.
[21:17] <matrixy> yeah
[21:18] <tomreyn> this is about the supervisor password of this thinkpad L480 series computer (model 20LTS1XE00, bios R0QET57W (1.34 ) 06/03/2019).  https://support.lenovo.com/no/en/solutions/ht036206-types-of-password-for-thinkpad has generic details.
[21:19] <tomreyn> push: ^
[21:19] <push> Shanks!
[21:19] <push> ill try it
[21:20] <VladTepes> so how do i get on efnet xchat used to work
[21:21] <tomreyn> VladTepes: which ubuntu version are you using?
[21:22] <VladTepes> newist one lts
[21:22] <leftyfb> VladTepes: you should be using hexchat, not xchat. xchat is a dead project that hasn't been updated in years. You can connect to EFnet servers the same way as any other server by following the hexchat documentation
[21:22] <oerheks> xchat is old, no longer under development
[21:22] <oerheks> so, connectors might be out of date
[21:22] <VladTepes> hexchat servers non worled
[21:23] <oerheks> there are no 'hexchat servers' ..
[21:23] <VladTepes> hexchat efnet servers
[21:23] <VladTepes> sorry
[21:24] <arraybolt3> What didn't work? Did you get any error messages?
[21:24] <VladTepes> says so much shit on connect
[21:24] <VladTepes> didnt look
[21:24] <arraybolt3> !language
[21:24] <push> "If you forget your supervisor password, Lenovo cannot reset your password. You must take your computer to a Lenovo Service Provider to have the system board replaced."
[21:24] <oerheks> lolz their page is out of date too http://www.efnet.org/?module=links
[21:25] <oerheks> stay on #Libera
[21:25] <arraybolt3> Please copy and paste the messages it makes on connect into a website like bpa.st, and then share the link to those messages with us. That will help us to know what's gone wrong.
[21:25] <leftyfb> VladTepes: if you'd like help, you need to provide exact error messages from a supported application. In this case, hexchat, not xchat. Either screenshots or pastebins
[21:25] <arraybolt3> push: What happened? Did you forget a BIOS password?
[21:25] <VladTepes> downloaded like 4 diffrent irc programs and u need like the exact efnet server to connect to
[21:26] <VladTepes> ok
[21:26] <VladTepes> ill look at hex chat again
[21:26] <leftyfb> VladTepes: sudo apt install hexchat
[21:27] <VladTepes> ints installed
[21:27] <VladTepes> its
[21:27] <arraybolt3> push: If you're trying to install Ubuntu on your system but can't boot from an ISO because you forgot a BIOS password, there are ways of getting around that.
[21:28] <VladTepes> right now its stuck here  Connecting to irc.underworld.no (2001:700:3100:1::babe:6697)
[21:28] <leftyfb> pick efnet
[21:28] <leftyfb> oh, that is an efnet server
[21:28] <oerheks> VladTepes, first quit this network ..
[21:29] <leftyfb> VladTepes: add irc.choopa.net to the list of efnet servers
[21:29] <VladTepes> oh it worked
[21:29] <arraybolt3> oerheks: HexChat can connect to multiple networks at once (I've done Libera and OFTC at once before).
[21:30] <push> arraybolt3, no its not that, its just that i have "safe boot" on in bios and that may be the reason why my ubuntu is kind of slow
[21:30] <VladTepes> worked
[21:30] <push> i already got Xubuntu installed
[21:30] <VladTepes> got on
[21:31] <arraybolt3> push: Hmm, if that's Secure Boot, that shouldn't affect Ubuntu's speed.
[21:31]  * arraybolt3 has to go afk
[21:31] <push> it was something tomrey reommende me turning off
[21:32] <push> tomreyn*
[21:32] <oerheks> arraybolt3, i assume he started hexchat as his 2nd irc client, next to the current connection.
[21:34] <jhutchins> push: Safe Boot or Secure Boot?
[21:34] <jhutchins> Secure Boot only runs at boot, it doesn't run during sessions.
[21:37] <push> Secure boot
[21:40] <jhutchins> Yah, there's no reason to enable that, and good reasons not to.
[21:41] <tomreyn> when linux finds 'secure boot' to be on it will enter kernel lockdown, which can have adverse effects on drivers and their abilities to work as intended.
[21:41] <tomreyn> this could result in the computer seeming "slow", just because some module can't work as designed.
[21:41] <bray90820> So i'm having an issue every time I get a notifacation my screen turns on but doesn't turn off again II am running 22.10 if it matters
[21:44] <tomreyn> push: so this is a preowned laptop and you don't actually know / cannot find out the supervisor password?
[21:45] <push> im a teacher and the tech guy at school got no clue, so he couldnt help me with that silly enterprise windows, and thats why im here
[21:45] <push> but ill ask the guy on Monday, if he even knows
[21:46] <tomreyn> push: actually it's quite likely that you set the supervisor password, since you would not have been able to install xubuntu and previously ubuntu without it, i think.
[21:46] <tomreyn> push: the ubuntu installer may have asked you to set this password during the installation
[21:46] <push> really??
[21:47] <push> whaaat
[21:47] <push> xD im the clueless guy
[21:47] <push> haha ok ill try and see if i got the password
[21:47] <push> brb
[21:51] <push> well, i cant seem to find any password that fits. so i just screwed myself?
[21:54] <tomreyn> push: possibly. keep in mind that the computer may use an us english keyboard layout during early boot. so if you had special characters or just a different keyboard layout while setting the password, you might need to type it differently now. you can also try to get help with this in #hardware
[21:54] <push> darn, that could be it
[21:55] <arraybolt3> tomreyn: I don't think the Ubuntu installer prompts you to set a BIOS password.
[21:55] <arraybolt3> I don't think it could even set it if it wanted to.
[21:55] <arraybolt3> The kind of password that requires a system board replacement to undo is a BIOS password (sounds like Lenovo calls this a "supervisor password").
[21:56] <tomreyn> hmm, yes, what the ubuntu installer may offer is to set a password which will then be used to disable secure boot
[21:56] <tomreyn> https://askubuntu.com/questions/867955/after-installation-do-i-still-need-to-remember-or-protect-the-secure-boot-passw
[21:57] <arraybolt3> Oh, that. Yeah that's only if you installed proprietary drivers during the installation process on a Secure Boot system.
[21:57] <arraybolt3> And I think those can be cleared from within Ubuntu and also don't require a system board replacement to clear.
[21:57] <tomreyn> yes, which may well be the case here
[21:57] <arraybolt3> push: Did you get this system used from another business by any chance?
[21:58] <arraybolt3> Frequently businesses will set BIOS passwords on their systems for security purposes and then forget to remove them when selling the system later on.
[21:58] <arraybolt3> (Businesses as in businesses that are using the system - it's unlikely that the manufacturer left a BIOS password in place :D)
[22:00] <push> i dont know the history of this laptop, but i think when i got it 4 years ago or so it was pretty new. and again i this laptop is the highschool i work for thatowns it
[22:01] <push> i think the password i put there is the same for my login, and i already tried that one
[22:03] <arraybolt3> push: Silly idea, but *maybe* you accidentally pressed Caps Lock while setting the BIOS password?
[22:03] <arraybolt3> In which case try reversing the password's capitalization and try that.
[22:06] <tomreyn> push: do you remember seeing this screen suring ubuntu installation, though? https://i.stack.imgur.com/cCTiK.png
[22:06] <tomreyn> ... and typing a password there
[22:06] <push> its very likely
[22:06] <push> ill try a couple of more times
[22:07] <tomreyn> https://i.stack.imgur.com/EwkxE.png is the explanation that displays when you click on "Learn more" there
[22:07] <push> see you guys, and thanks so much for the tips
[22:09] <push> What sign do you get with shift + "1" on english/standard ubuntu installation keyboard layout?
[22:10] <Jeremy31> !
[22:10] <VladTepes> does nord vpn work on ubuntu
[22:10] <push> ty jeremy!
[22:10] <push> ok later guys ill try some pws
[22:29] <WeeBey> weebey
[22:29] <arraybolt3> WeeBey: o/
[22:30] <WeeBey> lol I was searching for mentions and put it in the wrong spot. :p
[22:30] <oehman>  /msg leftyfb plz let leprechaun in again he has been fixing his connection now
[22:30] <leftyfb> oehman: I'm not an op
[22:30] <leftyfb> oehman: snd please don't PM
[22:31] <arraybolt3> oehman: Probably leprechaun should let the ops know this in #ubuntu-ops so that they can let him back in.
[22:31] <oehman> ok
[22:34] <oehman> he is there now
[22:34] <oehman> sent a message to the ops
[22:34] <arraybolt3> oehman: In general everything related to channel moderation should be taken to #ubuntu-ops, not here.
[22:34] <arraybolt3> !topic
[22:44] <push> kind of gave up guessing the password, this is silly, i feel so stupid
[22:44] <push> i at least updated the bios
[23:49] <Rajput> hi ubuntu community
[23:50] <Rajput> i am facing an issue
[23:50] <Rajput> when i download kubuntu iso url chinese from china mirror , in kubntu firefox i can on every tab chinese social media , messaging apps ,news, directory sites already bookmarked, when i open different sites it redirect to chinese version