[00:04] <mmikowski> hmm, arraybolt3, it *does* appear the update notifier is not appearing ...
[00:04] <mmikowski> hmmf
[00:04] <mmikowski> I have 8 packages to upgrade, but notifier is not showing. Lemme see if I can force it.
[00:18] <mmikowski> hmmm, arraybolt3, updates are not in the list of system tray widgets
[00:19] <arraybolt3> mmikowski: Hmm, yet System Settings says that it will notify me about updates daily...
[00:21] <mmikowski> Yeah, thanks. I will diff against a 5.24.7 package set and see if we are missing something. I got a hunch that a package we really want to keep around isn't here anymore.  Also, lemme look at a different 5.27 desktop and see if that also doesn't have a notifier.
[00:28] <mmikowski> arraybolt3: A cursory glance shows the same 'update' packages installed, but this will required a deeper investigation.
[00:29] <mmikowski> unfortunately, I'm racing against the clock on a few project, so I'll need to create a ticket to investigate later.
[00:30] <arraybolt3> No problem, I can update manually without issues. Just something to be aware of before releasing 5.27 into the wild.
[00:30] <arraybolt3> (I have so much experimental stuff installed on this laptop I'm surprized it still works smoothly in most areas :P)
[02:59] <mmikowski> arraybolt3: you can use apt-rollback, btw. That's handy not only to rollback, but to see prior commits.
[02:59] <mmikowski> sorry if that's old news :)
[03:01] <arraybolt3> Didn't know about that, might be handy. Thanks!
[03:15] <mmikowski> RikMills: Do you have any thought on the "there is no update notifier on 5.27" mystery?
 I'm thinking how to debug it (re @IrcsomeBot: <mmikowski> myfenris: If you are not seeing i915 errors in the syslog, then that's not likely to be causing a desktop hang, especially if you are using a 10th gen processor. We would need to know more about the problem to be able to advise on how to fix it. The best thing to do would be to file a bug on how to reproduce  and detailing your configuration.)
 💭 (re @IrcsomeBot: <mmikowski> myfernris: You could post the bug here too! :))
[03:59]  * arraybolt3 saw the thought cloud and thought it was a fist bump XD
[04:00] <arraybolt3> Emojis in IRC are too tiny.
 Owh sorry for that
[04:01] <arraybolt3> lol, not your fault, I thought it was funny!
[04:58] <mmikowski> arraybolt3: sudo apt install plasma-discover-notifier # that seems about right
[05:01] <arraybolt3> Installed it. Looks like it will need a reboot to show up since manually restarting Plasma didn't do it, but I can do that in a bit most likely.
[05:02] <arraybolt3> mmikowski: Thanks!
 No worries.. I know it's not my fault just say it :) (re @IrcsomeBot: <arraybolt3> lol, not your fault, I thought it was funny!)
[05:39] <mmikowski> arraybolt3: My experience too. We should see updates in the systray. I will relog to test.
[07:23] <mmikowski> arraybolt3: on relog, update notifier has returned.
[07:23] <mmikowski> I will open an ticket to ensure it gets installed.
[07:41] <mmikowski> RikMills: The missing notifier was fixed with sudo apt install plasma-discover-notifier. Not sure why that happened, but it did on at 3 machines. However, these were early-adopter-tainted, so I have a ticket to keep an eye on it and will inform you if there is an issue.
[07:41] <mmikowski> cc arraybolt3 ^^
[12:49] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[14:25] <Eickmeyer> mmikowski, RikMills, arraybolt3: plasma-discover-notifier just needs to be put in a metapackage somewhere for 5.27. That was a separation because at some point Studio wants to switch to a different update mechanism.
[15:29] <RikMills> yes, an updated kubuntu-meta in the ppa would sort that
[16:54] <mmikowski> Eickmeyer RikMills: Thank you, that explains it :)
[17:14] <mmikowski> Eickmeyer: Congrats on the Eubuntu coverage!