| luna_ | good morning | 06:53 |
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| GunnarHj | Hello team, | 07:57 |
| GunnarHj | The Firefox black window is a pretty bad issue IMO, and I just posted an idea to the bug report: | 07:57 |
| GunnarHj | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/1987976/comments/84 | 07:57 |
| GunnarHj | Any chance it will be fixed before the release? | 07:57 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-desktop- Launchpad bug 1987976 in mutter (Ubuntu) "firefox black window" [Undecided, Confirmed] | 07:57 | |
| lissyx | GunnarHj, as you can see in the history it's complicated | 08:40 |
| GunnarHj | lissyx: Right. What I propose is apparently a workaround. But given the nature of the issue, maybe that would be motivated? | 08:44 |
| lissyx | GunnarHj, you say xwayland fixes? | 08:44 |
| lissyx | the reports where suggesting the contrary | 08:45 |
| GunnarHj | lissyx: Do they? I didn't read every comment, but for me I have the issue on wayland, not x11, and I read somewhere that the FF snap needs xwayland. | 08:48 |
| GunnarHj | lissyx: The fact that the xrefresh command in the autostart script fixes it for me would confirm that, wouldn't it? | 08:50 |
| lissyx | I dont know | 09:50 |
| lissyx | honestly, the landscape of snap issues is really difficult to navigate | 09:50 |
| lissyx | there are so many issues reported which are lacking feedback, informations | 09:51 |
| lissyx | it's hard to know what is valid and what is not | 09:51 |
| lissyx | Firefox Snap uses XWayland on the release version, but Wayland on beta and nightly | 09:51 |
| lissyx | they both have issues, differents | 09:51 |
| lissyx | and the black window thing is not specific to snap ... | 09:51 |
| lissyx | https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1788205 | 09:52 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-desktop- Mozilla bug 1788205 in Core "X11+Xwayland: black window when launched. Possibly caused by Xwayland-on-demand or Firefox race condition when switching between composited/non-composited X11" [S2, New] | 09:52 | |
| lissyx | and to add, I am failing to reproduce many of those issues, so it's hard to investigate what happens ... | 09:52 |
| KGB-0 | vala tags 4029269 Rico Tzschichholz upstream/0.56.7 * Upstream version 0.56.7 * https://deb.li/OyaG | 11:18 |
| KGB-2 | vala upstream/latest d045e0d Rico Tzschichholz * pushed 26 commits (first 5 follow) * https://deb.li/3hWHM | 11:18 |
| KGB-2 | vala upstream/latest 047b5cd Rico Tzschichholz vala/valagirparser.vala * girparser: Apply "instance_idx" metadata for delegates * https://deb.li/83py | 11:18 |
| KGB-2 | vala upstream/latest dd242e4 Rico Tzschichholz vapi/ gio-2.0.vapi metadata/Gio-2.0.metadata * gio-2.0: Add missing type-argument in ListStore.find_with_equal_func_full() * https://deb.li/3oPz4 | 11:18 |
| KGB-2 | vala upstream/latest b1dbced Rico Tzschichholz (6 files in 3 dirs) * vala: Check type-argument count of interface prerequisites * https://deb.li/SPuV | 11:18 |
| KGB-2 | vala upstream/latest c2c5800 Rico Tzschichholz codegen/valaccodebasemodule.vala vala/valasemanticanalyzer.vala * Use already available glib_ns instead of root_symbol.scope.lookup ("GLib") * https://deb.li/3byRg | 11:19 |
| KGB-2 | vala upstream/latest a565581 Rico Tzschichholz vala/valasymbol.vala * vala: Improve Symbol.to_string() to include TypeParameters * https://deb.li/3g1QN | 11:19 |
| KGB-2 | vala pristine-tar b3c97a0 Rico Tzschichholz vala_0.56.7.orig.tar.xz.delta vala_0.56.7.orig.tar.xz.id * pristine-tar data for vala_0.56.7.orig.tar.xz * https://deb.li/iOgvx | 11:19 |
| seb128 | GunnarHj, hey Gunnar, how are you? | 14:18 |
| seb128 | GunnarHj, do you know how https://help.ubuntu.com/bitlocker is ending up redirecting to https://ubuntu.com/tutorials/install-ubuntu-desktop#13-additional-installing-ubuntu-alongside-windows-with-bitlocker ? | 14:20 |
| seb128 | GunnarHj, that's what we want but not what is in https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-doc/help.ubuntu.com/help.ubuntu.com/view/head:/.htaccess#L49 , I'm just trying to understand how things are working | 14:20 |
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| KGB-0 | gnome-boxes signed tags a731548 Jeremy Bicha ubuntu/44.1-1ubuntu3 * gnome-boxes Debian release 44.1-1ubuntu3 * https://deb.li/3TqnD | 14:39 |
| KGB-2 | gnome-boxes ubuntu/lunar 5754b40 Jeremy Bicha debian/patches/ series preferences-Save-manual-edit-configs-on-CHANGES_DONE_HINT.patch * Cherry-pick patch to fix Edit Configuration feature * https://deb.li/L1Dg | 14:39 |
| KGB-2 | gnome-boxes ubuntu/lunar 29dad09 Jeremy Bicha debian/ control control.in * Depend on libvirt-clients to fix inability to create virtual machines * https://deb.li/31gsl | 14:39 |
| KGB-2 | gnome-boxes ubuntu/lunar 443b44b Jeremy Bicha debian/changelog * releasing package gnome-boxes version 44.1-1ubuntu3 * https://deb.li/3iyzx | 14:39 |
| GunnarHj | seb128: It means that some sysadmin added some other redirect which overrides the one in .htaccess without letting the ubuntu-core-doc team know. | 15:22 |
| GunnarHj | Otherwise that .htaccess file was honored until recently, when they upgraded Apache. ATM they have moved all the dirctives — temporarily, I hope — to a <directive> section on the server level. | 15:22 |
| GunnarHj | Talking about those redirects, btw, any chance we can do something similar with https://help.ubuntu.com/rst? Nobody maintains the static page we put up, and it causes confusion. | 15:22 |
| seb128 | GunnarHj, I will check, need to drop IRC for now though | 15:23 |
| seb128 | thank you for the reply! | 15:23 |
| GunnarHj | lissyx: Without arguing about the problems you mention, can you reproduce the Firefox black window issue in a wayland session in 23.04? If you can, does the file I proposed help? | 16:15 |
| GunnarHj | seb128: Isn't the "Firefox opens black window on wayland" issue important enough to fix before release? I think I found a workaround: | 17:42 |
| GunnarHj | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/1987976/comments/84 | 17:42 |
| GunnarHj | But I don't know how to proceed. If it's considered a reasonable solution, which package should provide such a file? | 17:42 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-desktop- Launchpad bug 1987976 in mutter (Ubuntu) "firefox black window" [Undecided, Confirmed] | 17:42 | |
| jbicha | GunnarHj: does your Firefox issue happen with a clean Ubuntu 23.04 install? | 17:50 |
| GunnarHj | jbicha: Yes. Just reproduced it by installing yesterday's daily build. | 17:51 |
| jbicha | I believe it's unreproducible for most people; otherwise the ISO tests would have more failures | 17:52 |
| jbicha | the thinking is that it's a race condition? I might have seen it occasionally. I think restarting Firefox might have cleared it up for me | 17:54 |
| GunnarHj | jbicha: Possibly. I have a NVIDIA card, and I see it on wayland both with the NVIDIA and the Nouveau driver. | 17:55 |
| GunnarHj | jbicha: It might be a race thing, yes, and running xrefresh makes sure that xwayland is ready when needed. | 17:56 |
| jbicha | this isn't a new bug for 23.04 or gotten significantly worse for 23.04, right? | 17:56 |
| GunnarHj | True. But for me it became worse during the lunar dev. cycle. | 17:57 |
| jbicha | and the specific issue you are trying to fix is specific to the GNOME sessions since they are using Wayland? | 17:57 |
| GunnarHj | Yes. That's why the proposed file is only run on GNOME. (Haven't tested on Plasma (Wayland).) | 17:58 |
| jbicha | the Launchpad bug report is too noisy for us to work with. Could you open a new mutter bug since I'm guessing that's where we might want to handle this? | 17:58 |
| GunnarHj | jbicha: Sure, I can do that. | 17:59 |
| jbicha | I'll defer to Daniel or Marco about whether to use that workaround, and if we do, whether it needs to land now or can land as a Lunar SRU | 18:02 |
| GunnarHj | Ack. | 18:02 |
| Trevinho | mhmh, I feel it would be better to try to fix this in xwayland better | 18:24 |
| Trevinho | I got it happening reliably in my machine few weeks ago, now it seems to happen less | 18:25 |
| seb128 | GunnarHj, the bug say 'affects 5 people' and it's the first time I see it mentioned, I think you are unlucky but it affects not enough people to be worth respinning the images/delaying | 18:42 |
| seb128 | we should SRU a fix when we have one though | 18:42 |
| seb128 | also shouldn't nvidia default to xorg session? | 18:43 |
| Trevinho | seb128: it's quite easy to reproduce though, just killall Xwayland and start firefox again | 18:46 |
| Trevinho | it's not just nvidia | 18:46 |
| Trevinho | I think it doesn't appear in some setups because something else tries to start XWayland first | 18:47 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, other topic but since you are here, did you have an indicator package update ready or should I go with it? | 18:48 |
| Trevinho | seb128: go with it please :) | 18:49 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, thanks :) | 18:49 |
| GunnarHj | Trevinho: Addressing the root cause is always better. ;) If you have something else which enables Xwayland, you may not notice. And killing Xwayland sounds as a plausible way to make the issue surface. But possibly few users are affected, as seb128 says. | 18:52 |
| GunnarHj | jbicha, seb128, Trevinho: I started to write a new bug report. Is it meaningful to submit it? | 18:53 |
| GunnarHj | seb128: I can control the session on the login screen. And with the Nouveau driver it defaults to wayland even with a NVIDIA card. | 18:59 |
| seb128 | ah right, using nouveau | 18:59 |
| seb128 | GunnarHj, report a new bug if you can since jbicha suggested it would help to have a conversation | 19:00 |
| GunnarHj | Ok, will do. | 19:00 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, did you manage to build indicator-messages? the tests fail here | 19:01 |
| seb128 | well I guess you built the source and not the package | 19:01 |
| Trevinho | seb128: nope, i saw they did in CI though... | 19:01 |
| Trevinho | I just built manually what I needd without tetsing | 19:01 |
| Trevinho | looks like a dbus-run-session or smth is missing, but... | 19:01 |
| Trevinho | could be more than that | 19:01 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, no, I'm building on my normal session so dbus&co is there | 19:03 |
| seb128 | bah, no, stupid test doesn't enforce the locale but fail in !english | 19:03 |
| GunnarHj | bug #2016918 | 19:07 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-desktop- Bug 2016918 in mutter (Ubuntu) "Firefox snap opens a black window on wayland" [High, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2016918 | 19:07 | |
| Trevinho | GunnarHj: I think https://gitlab.gnome.org/3v1n0/mutter/-/commit/b16c3aff248b8839340de4785738879b678f45ba fixes it | 20:17 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-desktop- Commit b16c3af in 3v1n0/mutter "display: Set compositor selection earlier on XWayland" | 20:17 | |
| Trevinho | I've not time to build a new pkg now, but if you do please let me know :) | 20:17 |
| GunnarHj | Trevinho: Nice! I can apply, build and test. If successful, is it ok to upload? | 20:20 |
| Trevinho | GunnarHj: I may want to include also a test and few cleanups, but after that yes | 20:21 |
| Trevinho | GunnarHj: test case is as simple as kill Xwayland and run firefox.. | 20:21 |
| GunnarHj | Trevinho: Ok, I start with the test part. | 20:21 |
| GunnarHj | Trevinho: I'm not the one who would write the test. Over my head unfortunately. | 20:23 |
| Trevinho | GunnarHj: tested code is in https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/-/merge_requests/2970 not sure if your test gave any result though :) | 21:58 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-desktop- Merge 2970 in GNOME/mutter "display: Set compositor selection earlier on XWayland" [Opened] | 21:58 | |
| GunnarHj | Trevinho: Yes, I tested it successfully: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mutter/+bug/2016918/comments/1 | 21:59 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-desktop- Launchpad bug 2016918 in mutter (Ubuntu) "Firefox snap opens a black window on wayland" [High, In Progress] | 21:59 | |
| Trevinho | GunnarHj: if you've time, can just pick the whole patch I sent upstream, that comes with unit tests | 22:00 |
| GunnarHj | Trevinho: Oh, you've already done that? Then I'll grab that instead. Do I have a green light to upload with that in place? | 22:02 |
| Trevinho | GunnarHj: give some x11-session only tests too, otherwise I'm good | 22:02 |
| GunnarHj | Ok, will do. | 22:03 |
| Trevinho | GunnarHj: another test to do is killining XWayland and GDK_BACKEND=x11 gtk3-widget-factory (or gedit) | 22:06 |
| Trevinho | see https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/-/issues/2472#note_1574515 | 22:06 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-desktop- Issue 2472 in GNOME/mutter "Timing/race condition with Xwayland-on-demand breaks firefox & confuses gedit etc" [Opened] | 22:06 | |
| Trevinho | it should not have bad decorations | 22:06 |
| GunnarHj | Trevinho: Not sure what you mean by decorations. | 22:10 |
| Eickmeyer | GunnarHj, Trevinho: I see bug 2016918, assuming that will need respins? | 22:16 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-desktop- Bug 2016918 in mutter (Ubuntu) "Firefox snap opens a black window on wayland" [High, In Progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2016918 | 22:16 | |
| Eickmeyer | (anything affecting Desktop affects Edubuntu) | 22:17 |
| GunnarHj | Eickmeyer: Hopefully... ;) | 22:17 |
| Eickmeyer | Roger that. | 22:18 |
| Trevinho | <GunnarHj> "Treviño: Not sure what you..." <- The windows corners? 😅 | 22:28 |
| Trevinho | GunnarHj: I'd mark your new bug as duplicate though. Maybe leaving open for Firefox. | 22:29 |
| GunnarHj | Trevinho: I see nothing odd in the screenshot at https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/-/issues/2472#note_1574515 But maybe I'll see it if it shows up. :/ | 22:35 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-desktop- Issue 2472 in GNOME/mutter "Timing/race condition with Xwayland-on-demand breaks firefox & confuses gedit etc" [Opened] | 22:35 | |
| GunnarHj | Trevinho: Right, let me mark the new bug as duplicate. Not needed given that the issue now is about to be fixed. | 22:35 |
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