| ItzSwirlz | Same issue with desktop. The lights on the keyboard also freeze/stop moving, with kind of makes me wonder if the firmware freezes | 00:01 |
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| ItzSwirlz | also rip big buck bunny | 00:28 |
| arraybolt3 | (re: rip big buck bunny) I think that's been a known bug for a while? | 00:28 |
| ItzSwirlz | yeah confirmed bug nvm | 00:29 |
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| -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Server Subiquity riscv64 [Lunar Final] has been updated (20230417) | 01:44 | |
| -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: livecd-rootfs (lunar-proposed/main) [2.831 => 2.832] (desktop-core, i386-whitelist) | 01:52 | |
| -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted livecd-rootfs [source] (lunar-proposed) [2.832] | 01:54 | |
| LocutusOfBorg | hello, just found in sync-blacklist telegram-desktop is repeated twice :) | 07:45 |
| -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New sync: livecd-rootfs (lunar-release/primary) [2.828] | 08:39 | |
| -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted livecd-rootfs [sync] (lunar-release) [2.828] | 08:41 | |
| mitya57 | vorlon: LP: #2016703 :/ — do you want it to be fixed in Lunar, or it can wait until next series? | 10:00 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-release- Launchpad bug 2016703 in qtbase-opensource-src (Ubuntu) "qbusmacros.h fails to compile: wrong case on case-sensitive include" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2016703 | 10:00 | |
| mitya57 | It's a one-line fix in sync.profile so not hard to fix, just wondering. But if fixing I would do it via Debian and also sync fix for a11y in root applications. | 10:05 |
| -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu WSL [Lunar Final] (4731214232) has been added | 10:47 | |
| AlsoItzSwirlz | Ubuntu Cinnamon testcases complete. No ~ubuntucinnamon-release team exists yet, so here is my official approval for it to be marked as release (in other words: can someone mark it ready) | 11:26 |
| -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Cinnamon Desktop amd64 [Lunar Final] has been marked as ready | 12:32 | |
| -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: openstack-trove (lunar-proposed/universe) [2:19.0.0-0ubuntu4 => 2:19.0.0-0ubuntu5] (openstack) | 12:45 | |
| -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: tepl (lunar-proposed/universe) [6.4.0-7build1 => 6.4.0-7ubuntu1] (no packageset) | 13:40 | |
| -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: ubuntu-release-upgrader (lunar-proposed/main) [1:23.04.5 => 1:23.04.6] (core) | 14:15 | |
| -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: cloudkitty (lunar-proposed/universe) [17.0.0-2 => 17.0.0-3] (no packageset) (sync) | 14:28 | |
| -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: openstack-pkg-tools (lunar-proposed/universe) [119ubuntu1 => 123ubuntu1] (i386-whitelist, openstack) | 14:28 | |
| -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted cloudkitty [sync] (lunar-proposed) [17.0.0-3] | 14:29 | |
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| coreycb | hello release team, I've uploaded a few last minute changes to lunar unapproved. openstack-pkg-tools is a merge from debian to pick up this fix: https://salsa.debian.org/openstack-team/debian/openstack-pkg-tools/-/commit/ef6da658 . I've also synced freezer-api and cloudkitty which are the only 2 packages that need that fix. and the openstack-trove upload is just an autopkgtest fix. thanks and sorry for the last minute changes. | 14:32 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-release- Commit ef6da65 in openstack-team/debian/openstack-pkg-tools "Fix init template to support uwsgi with Python 3.11 and up." | 14:32 | |
| -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: gnome-boxes (lunar-proposed/universe) [44.1-1ubuntu2 => 44.1-1ubuntu3] (desktop-extra) | 14:40 | |
| -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted openstack-trove [source] (lunar-proposed) [2:19.0.0-0ubuntu5] | 14:41 | |
| jbicha | ^ gnome-boxes is not on any release media | 14:43 |
| ginggs | coreycb: would you rebuild the openstack-pkg-tools source package with -v119ubuntu1 please? | 14:45 |
| coreycb | ginggs: sure np. I've never seen that before. what's the v stand for? | 14:48 |
| coreycb | ginggs: assuming that means s/v/0 for me | 14:49 |
| ginggs | coreycb: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/Merging#Get_your_work_uploaded | 14:50 |
| ginggs | "be sure to include all debian changes in your upload. (debuild -S -sa -vX.YubuntuZ)" | 14:51 |
| coreycb | ah, right, that. sorry I thought you were talking about changing the version in the changelog. | 14:52 |
| ginggs | -vX.YubuntuZ includes all the changelog entries since version X.YubuntuZ in the .changes file | 14:52 |
| -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: openstack-pkg-tools (lunar-proposed/universe) [119ubuntu1 => 123ubuntu1] (i386-whitelist, openstack) | 14:56 | |
| coreycb | ginggs: done | 14:57 |
| ginggs | coreycb: thanks, rejecting the previous upload | 14:59 |
| -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected openstack-pkg-tools [source] (lunar-proposed) [123ubuntu1] | 15:00 | |
| toabctl | sil2100, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/walinuxagent/+bug/2016012 | 15:02 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-release- Launchpad bug 2016012 in walinuxagent (Ubuntu) "udev rule causing boot delay when rsyslog is not installed" [Undecided, New] | 15:02 | |
| -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted openstack-pkg-tools [source] (lunar-proposed) [123ubuntu1] | 15:08 | |
| -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: swtpm (jammy-proposed/main) [0.6.3-0ubuntu3 => 0.6.3-0ubuntu3.1] (no packageset) | 15:09 | |
| -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted gnome-boxes [source] (lunar-proposed) [44.1-1ubuntu3] | 15:10 | |
| coreycb | ginggs: thanks | 15:12 |
| bdmurray | seb128: Did you want tepl accepted before release? | 15:16 |
| seb128 | bdmurray, would be nice, it's unseeded and in universe and only adding translations | 15:17 |
| bdmurray | ginggs indicates it is seeded for some flavors | 15:19 |
| bdmurray | ubuntu-budgie and ubuntucinnamon | 15:19 |
| seb128 | ah ok, so let's SRU | 15:21 |
| seb128 | it's not worth a respin | 15:21 |
| seb128 | feel free to reject and I will add a bug reference and reupload | 15:22 |
| seb128 | and I need to drop from IRC for a while | 15:23 |
| seb128 | bbl | 15:23 |
| -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected tepl [source] (lunar-proposed) [6.4.0-7ubuntu1] | 15:25 | |
| -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Base amd64 [Lunar Final] has been marked as ready | 16:50 | |
| -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Base arm64 [Lunar Final] has been marked as ready | 16:50 | |
| -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Base armhf [Lunar Final] has been marked as ready | 16:50 | |
| -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Base ppc64el [Lunar Final] has been marked as ready | 16:50 | |
| -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Base riscv64 [Lunar Final] has been marked as ready | 16:50 | |
| -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Base s390x [Lunar Final] has been marked as ready | 16:50 | |
| -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Server Subiquity amd64 [Lunar Final] has been marked as ready | 16:56 | |
| -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Server Subiquity arm64 [Lunar Final] has been marked as ready | 16:56 | |
| -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Server Subiquity ppc64el [Lunar Final] has been marked as ready | 16:56 | |
| -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Server Subiquity riscv64 [Lunar Final] has been marked as ready | 16:56 | |
| -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Server Subiquity s390x [Lunar Final] has been marked as ready | 16:56 | |
| Trevinho | rbasak: hey, do you happen to know why https://git.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/accountsservice/ has not the applied branches around? | 17:38 |
| tsimonq2 | (Some of them do exist, they're just severely outdated...) | 17:41 |
| rs2009 | speaking of which, copying this from the flavors channel (since it would be more appropriate here, as suggested by arraybolt3): https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-messages/+bug/2015962 is currently holding Ubuntu Unity back | 18:03 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-release- Launchpad bug 2015962 in accountsservice (Ubuntu) "indicator-messages-service crashed with SIGSEGV in g_type_check_instance() from g_signal_handlers_disconnect_matched() from act_user_manager_finalize() from g_object_unref() from im_accounts_service_dispose()" [High, In Progress] | 18:03 | |
| bdmurray | rs2009: What do you mean by "holding back"? Do you consider it a release blocker? If so why? | 18:07 |
| rs2009 | bdmurray: It causes a crash on every log-in, even when booting the live ISO. We've decided to wait for the issue to be resolved upstream, and in the event that it isn't resolved in the next 2 days or so, we'll be removing indicator-messages from unity-services's Recommends. | 18:19 |
| sil2100 | rs2009: well, I would say removing indicator-messages is the right way to go so late in the cycle | 18:20 |
| bdmurray | 2 days or so is too late for release | 18:21 |
| bdmurray | Things should really be good tomorrow | 18:21 |
| bdmurray | s/good/solid/ | 18:21 |
| sil2100 | In 2 days we need to have images ready for release, and I'd say we'd need a fix for this today to get realistically enough testing for this to be a go for release | 18:21 |
| arraybolt3 | sil2100: Is that recommended for all flavors that seed indicator-messages? I think Cinnamon does that. | 18:21 |
| sil2100 | I think cinnamon removed it from their seeds | 18:21 |
| arraybolt3 | er, I think Cinnamon seeds that. | 18:21 |
| arraybolt3 | Ah, makes sense. | 18:22 |
| sil2100 | hmmm | 18:23 |
| sil2100 | Ok, actually, I need to double check that, since I remember that being the case but maybe I'm wrong | 18:23 |
| sil2100 | Ah, no, I got confused, nvm | 18:28 |
| sil2100 | Anyway, yeah, I'd recommend removing that from the Recommends ASAP | 18:28 |
| sil2100 | rs2009: ^ | 18:28 |
| -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: walinuxagent (lunar-proposed/main) [2.2.46-0ubuntu6 => 2.2.46-0ubuntu7] (core, ubuntu-cloud) | 18:32 | |
| -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted walinuxagent [source] (lunar-proposed) [2.2.46-0ubuntu7] | 18:33 | |
| rs2009 | sil2100: alrightey, I'll relay that to mitya57 | 18:35 |
| sil2100 | rs2009: thank you! \o/ | 18:35 |
| rs2009 | sil2100: yw, and ty! :) | 18:35 |
| sil2100 | So, as per the tracking document on discourse: we will be re-spinning Ubuntu Desktop images (only) to fix some nasty racey issues in manual partitioning | 18:36 |
| sil2100 | Once the new images are in I'd ask for some testing of those from everyone to make sure we didn't break any of the other cases by accident | 18:36 |
| sil2100 | Big thanks to ogayot, dbungert and jpnurmi for their effort here! | 18:37 |
| mitya57 | Okay, I will upload https://code.launchpad.net/~rs2009/unity/+git/unity/+merge/441187 now. | 18:37 |
| rs2009 | mitya57: tysm, as always! | 18:39 |
| seb128 | rs2009, sil2100, we believe we have a fix for indicator-messages and I was coming back to the computer to upload those changes from Trevinho if you would prefer to go that way | 18:44 |
| sil2100 | hmmmm | 18:44 |
| sil2100 | So, I think I would prefer not to pull that in | 18:45 |
| sil2100 | The main reason is that this is seeded right now in Unity, Cinnamon and Xubuntu | 18:46 |
| sil2100 | Cinnamon was already happy with the images, so I wouldn't want to invalidate their testing and reasiness | 18:46 |
| sil2100 | *readiness | 18:46 |
| sil2100 | And Xubuntu didn't mention any issues with this as well | 18:46 |
| -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: unity (lunar-proposed/universe) [7.7.0+23.04.20230222.2-0ubuntu1 => 7.7.0+23.04.20230222.2-0ubuntu2] (no packageset) | 18:47 | |
| mitya57 | I uploaded unity before reading what seb128 wrote, so feel free to either accept it or reject and accept indicator-messages fix instead. | 18:47 |
| sil2100 | Oh, so that's a 'unity' rebuild entirely? hm | 18:47 |
| bluesabre | What's the issue with indicator-messages? | 18:48 |
| sil2100 | It's crashin apparently? | 18:48 |
| seb128 | bluesabre, segfaults at logout in Lunar, https://github.com/AyatanaIndicators/ayatana-indicator-messages/pull/35 | 18:49 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-release- Pull 35 in AyatanaIndicators/ayatana-indicator-messages "account-service: Do not unref UserManager owned user" [Open] | 18:49 | |
| sil2100 | rs2009: is this the case for Ubuntu Unity as well? Is this only a crash on logout? | 18:51 |
| seb128 | sil2100, the issue is that when things crash on logout you get apport in your face at the next login | 18:53 |
| seb128 | so people get greeted at login by a crash report every time | 18:53 |
| sil2100 | Not great experience | 18:54 |
| sil2100 | I'll have to move to my hotel room in a bit - since this affects Xubuntu, Cinnamon and Unity, I'd appreciate if you could give me a sign what you think is the best way to go | 18:55 |
| sil2100 | aka bluesabre, rs2009 and ItsSwirls (who's not here) | 18:55 |
| sil2100 | I know cinnamon asked to be marked as ready, so apparently they're not really affected or don't really consider this a blocker | 18:55 |
| sil2100 | bluesabre: did you notice the crash for Xubuntu? | 18:56 |
| bluesabre | I don't think I'd seen it before, working on reproducing now. | 18:56 |
| sil2100 | Thank you o/ | 18:56 |
| sil2100 | Since I might just accept the unity one in that case | 18:57 |
| sil2100 | (if by some chance it's not visible for you) | 18:57 |
| seb128 | it's bug #2015962 | 18:57 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-release- Bug 2015962 in accountsservice (Ubuntu) "indicator-messages-service crashed with SIGSEGV in g_type_check_instance() from g_signal_handlers_disconnect_matched() from act_user_manager_finalize() from g_object_unref() from im_accounts_service_dispose()" [High, In Progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2015962 | 18:57 | |
| sil2100 | Ok, I need to suspend for a bit but I'll read the IRC logs from irclogs when I'm back | 18:58 |
| seb128 | which is the top report on https://errors.ubuntu.com/?release=Ubuntu%2023.04&period=day | 18:58 |
| sil2100 | o/ | 18:59 |
| seb128 | bluesabre, is xubuntu loading indicator-messages by default? | 19:05 |
| -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: indicator-messages (lunar-proposed/universe) [13.10.1+18.10.20180918-0ubuntu3 => 13.10.1+18.10.20180918-0ubuntu4] (ubuntu-desktop) | 19:07 | |
| bluesabre | I don't think we are, actually. | 19:08 |
| bluesabre | It's installed, but not running. Does Thunderbird still support it? | 19:08 |
| bluesabre | Anyway, that probably means Xubuntu is fine with the package update, but can go without a respin. | 19:09 |
| seb128 | ^ upload of what we believe to be the fix if you want to consider that option | 19:10 |
| bluesabre | I'm happy with the upload if Cinnamon/Unity are. | 19:14 |
| jbicha | bluesabre: if it's accepted into release, Xubuntu would need a respin since the ISOs need to match the archive | 19:49 |
| bluesabre | jbicha: Ah, I thought it would just be one of those day zero updates. A respin is fine. | 19:51 |
| jbicha | yes, it could be handled as an SRU if the bug is not so serious that it needs to be fixed before installation | 19:51 |
| -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Edubuntu Desktop amd64 [Lunar Final] has been marked as ready | 19:53 | |
| -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Studio DVD amd64 [Lunar Final] has been marked as ready | 19:53 | |
| * Eickmeyer might take a nap after that marathon | 19:53 | |
| -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: tepl (lunar-proposed/universe) [6.4.0-7build1 => 6.4.0-7ubuntu1] (no packageset) | 20:03 | |
| sil2100 | Hey! | 20:30 |
| sil2100 | So, any decision on the indicator-messages? | 20:30 |
| sil2100 | I see in the logs that Xubuntu doesn't actually experience the crash? | 20:30 |
| sil2100 | In that case I'll accept the unity upload instead, not to invalidate cinnamon | 20:30 |
| sil2100 | And we'll get this as an zero-day sru perhaps? | 20:31 |
| sil2100 | bluesabre, rs2009 ^ | 20:32 |
| bluesabre | @sil2100: Yes, Xubuntu has it installed, but not running by default. So no Xubuntu user will experience the bug without some extra work. | 20:33 |
| sil2100 | hm | 20:35 |
| sil2100 | Ok, I see a potential complication | 20:36 |
| sil2100 | unity riscv64 build takes 6 hours | 20:36 |
| sil2100 | Does anyone have contact with ItsSwirlz? | 20:39 |
| Eickmeyer | sil2100: I'll give him a ping, he's probably just off school. | 20:48 |
| sil2100 | Eickmeyer: thanks | 20:49 |
| sil2100 | Since if he's fine with a re-test of cinnamon for this, I'll go ahead and get the real fix in then | 20:49 |
| Eickmeyer | He's on the bus on his way home, he says he'll be here in a bit. | 20:50 |
| * AlsoItzSwirlz rawrs | 20:50 | |
| Eickmeyer | sil2100: ^ | 20:50 |
| AlsoItzSwirlz | hi | 20:50 |
| sil2100 | Hello hello! | 20:50 |
| sil2100 | AlsoItzSwirlz: so we have such a situation: Ubuntu Unity is haunted by a crash of indicator-messages in their images | 20:51 |
| sil2100 | We have a fix in the queue for that, but since the package is seeded in Xubuntu, Cinnamon and Unity, this would need a respin of your flavor as well | 20:51 |
| AlsoItzSwirlz | im okay with a rebuild | 20:52 |
| sil2100 | We have a 'workaround' in unity itself by just dropping the recommends for indicator-messages, which would mean only a respin of unity, but the build will take a while as riscv64 for the unity package takes 6 hours | 20:52 |
| sil2100 | Ok! | 20:52 |
| sil2100 | AlsoItzSwirlz: thank you! | 20:52 |
| sil2100 | Let me accept that and unblock | 20:52 |
| sil2100 | seb128: I assume this fix was tested in a real scenario? | 20:52 |
| sil2100 | Trevinho: ^ | 20:53 |
| AlsoItzSwirlz | sorry about not being here by the way, i did just reinstall my ubuntu desktop raspi | 20:53 |
| Trevinho | sil2100: yes | 20:54 |
| -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted indicator-messages [source] (lunar-proposed) [13.10.1+18.10.20180918-0ubuntu4] | 20:54 | |
| Trevinho | sil2100: there's a test case in http://dpaste.com//FELSTPDSB | 20:54 |
| Trevinho | sil2100: well, remvoing the unref there is like how the fix does for indicator-messages | 20:55 |
| -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Desktop amd64 [Lunar Final] has been updated (20230418) | 21:07 | |
| rbasak | Trevinho: probably a bug. Thank you for the report. I've added this to https://bugs.launchpad.net/git-ubuntu/+bug/1999073 | 21:13 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-release- Launchpad bug 1999073 in git-ubuntu "applied branches missing in samba package" [High, New] | 21:13 | |
| rbasak | Trevinho: for prioritising, is this going to be a recurring pain for you, or just passing through? | 21:14 |
| seb128 | sil2100, sorry I was in evening mode, just catching up a bit before bed, the crash tops error reports and the reports are not only from unity but also cinnamon so I think trying to restrict the respin to unity isn't especially right | 21:24 |
| seb128 | but seems like you decided on accepting and respinning so +1 from me | 21:25 |
| seb128 | wth with https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-messages/13.10.1+18.10.20180918-0ubuntu4 ? | 21:44 |
| seb128 | so the binaries uploads have been rejected because ayatana-indicator-messages is building some of those binaries with the same names | 21:47 |
| sbeattie | Hey archive admins; last thursday, chromium browser was published to bionic-security, but the automated process that copies packages to bionic-updates did not happen: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chromium-browser/+publishinghistory | 21:54 |
| sbeattie | Can someone please fix this? THanks! | 21:54 |
| -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: ayatana-indicator-messages (lunar-proposed/main) [22.9.0-1 => 22.9.0-1ubuntu1] (ubuntu-desktop) | 21:57 | |
| sbeattie | Hrm, this also seems to be the case for firefox published ~18 hours ago, for both bionic and focal: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox | 21:57 |
| sbeattie | (will also poke in ~launchpad) | 21:58 |
| seb128 | sbeattie, I'm not aware of that part of the archive admin work, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArchiveAdministration#Copying_security_uploads_to_updates seems to be wrong though | 21:59 |
| seb128 | it states that 'Note that copy-report --safe is run from a cron job as the ubuntu-archive user on people.canonical.com' but I get a 'unknown user: ubuntu-archive' on that machine | 22:00 |
| sbeattie | seb128: ah, that seems to have moved to a different host in PS5... and it seems I'm getting cronmail from it that is throwing a python backtrace. Fun! | 22:02 |
| seb128 | vorlon, ^ is that a consequence of the snakefruit migration? | 22:05 |
| seb128 | sbeattie, could you share details about the instance/backtrace? | 22:05 |
| seb128 | sbeattie, unping, I figured it out | 22:07 |
| Eickmeyer | Removed Edubuntu as ready, apparently we've got some mutter issues along with Desktop. | 22:19 |
| -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Edubuntu Desktop amd64 [Lunar Final] has been updated (20230417) | 22:19 | |
| ItzSwirlz | so the most awkward question I've asked yet: what package to file a bug against for WSL | 23:17 |
| ItzSwirlz | I don't even know if I can ubuntu-bug within WSL | 23:17 |
| Eickmeyer | ItzSwirlz: Depends on what's wrong with it. | 23:19 |
| ItzSwirlz | neofetch specifically says I'm running on a Windows 10 host, but I'm on 11. But I'm pretty sure neofetch pulls from other system files, so I'm pretty sure it's a WSL thing | 23:19 |
| Eickmeyer | ItzSwirlz: OR neofetch just doesn't know the difference. | 23:21 |
| ItzSwirlz | I'm plowing through the script right now | 23:21 |
| ItzSwirlz | Yep. It's windows. It runs "wmic.exe os get Version" and it returns a form of 10.foo | 23:23 |
| Eickmeyer | So not a bug on our end. | 23:23 |
| ItzSwirlz | The version its showing might actually be the build I installed Windows originally with, I'll have to check my dvd downstairs. But yeah, not us | 23:24 |
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