[01:57] <realivanjx> is archive.ubuntu.com down?
[01:58] <sarnold> realivanjx: one of the machines is undergoing maintenance
[01:59] <sarnold> realivanjx: while they waited until it had fallen out of DNS before starting work, it's possible your client was still using it
[01:59] <realivanjx> i see
[02:12] <Guest57> hey anyone experiencing issues trying to upgrade from old-release sources? everything seems to time out, but network is fine for everything else
[02:13] <rbox> what are you do9ing, what error are you getting
[02:14] <Guest57> do-release-upgrade gets to a different stage every time, for example getting the announcement message (first stage) sometimes timeout sometimes doesn't, and if that doesn't timeout then something at a later stage will
[02:14] <Guest57> the actual error message is "a problem occurred during the update. this is usually some sort of network problem"
[02:14] <Guest57> considering the timeouts yeah network issue make sense in this case, except everything else works completely fine, even doing a speed test
[02:15] <Guest57> for context we're on 21.10 trying to upgrade to LTS 22.04
[02:16] <oerheks> https://status.canonical.com/  has no reports
[02:17] <oerheks> one can try to change mirror to main, if not already
[02:19] <Guest57> problem solved, we ran the command again (without changing anything) and this time it worked with everything going at decent download speed
[02:20] <Guest57> that means it was indeed just a network hiccup, but no idea who's end it was on though our network was fine might have been host cache? idk
[02:20] <Guest57> thanks anyway
[02:21] <oerheks> have fun!
[02:23] <pycurious> Ubuntu Pro used to give 10 machines for free - any ideas how does one get that?
[02:25] <oerheks> one probably can requests for 10 keys, but this pro is interesting after the standard 5 years.
[02:25] <oerheks> !pro
[02:26] <oerheks> it is 5 machines, and 10 years
[02:26] <pycurious> oerheks: how does one get those 5 machines?
[02:26] <oerheks> https://ubuntu.com/server/docs/install/subscription
[02:28] <pycurious> oerheks: thanks!
[02:28] <oerheks> have fun!
[04:13] <cluelessperson_> Hi there.  I'm trying to get xorg to start on the AMD gpu
[04:13] <cluelessperson_> but when I set AMD in the xorg.conf file, when I boot, I get a flashing console text.
[04:13] <cluelessperson_> but not a clear error
[04:14] <cluelessperson_> if I hold down Ctrl+Alt+F2, it boots me into gnome/gdm fine and I can go on as normal
[04:23] <cluelessperson_> now I can't get the gnome shell/gdm to load at all
[04:23] <cluelessperson_> no desktop environment
[04:23] <l88l> hi all-what
[04:25] <matsaman> not sure using xorg.conf is the normal way anymore
[04:30] <cluelessperson_> matsaman, I see, what is the correct way?
[04:30] <matsaman> it's pretty unusual to have to configure X these days really
[04:30] <arraybolt3> cluelessperson_: Can you describe what you mean by "get xorg to start on the AMD gpu"? What version and flavor of Ubuntu are you using, and what are you trying to get to happen?
[04:31] <arraybolt3> Like, do you have two GPUs and are trying to start X on only one and not the other or something?
[04:32] <cluelessperson_> arraybolt3, I'm using ubuntu desktop latest LTS 22.04, nothing special.  I just installed drivers for nvidia and amd.   nvidia is a discreet card, and amd is integrated graphics.
[04:32] <cluelessperson_> arraybolt3, I went into xorg and tried to set dvice to amd, and now the desktop environment fails to come up.
[04:33] <arraybolt3> If you installed drivers for AMD, that's probably wrong. AMD GPUs usually work out of the box without needing any additional drivers (unlike NVIDIA which needs proprietary drivers to work right).
[04:33] <arraybolt3> If I'm understanding correctly, you should just have to install Ubuntu, plug your monitor(s) into the iGPU, install the NVIDIA drivers (and only just the NVIDIA drivers), and have everything work.
[04:34] <cluelessperson_> arraybolt3, in that case, xorg seems to choose to run on nvidia gpu
[04:34] <arraybolt3> Even with your monitors plugged into the iGPU ports?
[04:34] <cluelessperson_> nvidia-smi shows "/path/to/xorg"
[04:34] <cluelessperson_> yes
[04:34] <cluelessperson_> which hdmi you're plugged into shouldn't dictate where the process is loading.
[04:34] <oerheks> is there a priority setting for amd or descreet gpu in your bios?
[04:34] <arraybolt3> You might need to use NVIDIA prime to switch to the other GPU.
[04:35] <cluelessperson_> arraybolt3, that doesn't make sense to me
[04:35] <cluelessperson_> arraybolt3, nvidia prive is used to start things after the fact on a specific gpu
[04:35] <cluelessperson_> this is to dictate where xorg is started to begin with.
[04:37] <arraybolt3> Huh, weird. My research makes it look like configuring Xorg is how you do this in the absence of a MUX switch...
[04:38] <arraybolt3> https://askubuntu.com/questions/787030/setting-the-default-gpu
[04:38] <cluelessperson_> maybe I have xorg configured icorretly
[04:38] <arraybolt3> In that instance, I'm not sure what the right way to do this is.
[04:38] <cluelessperson_> When startgnome display manager starts
[04:38] <cluelessperson_> and I see therepeating error, mt7921e  Timeout for initilizing hardware
[04:38] <cluelessperson_> hardware init failed.
[04:39] <cluelessperson_> that seems to be related to wifi
[04:39] <cluelessperson_> hm
[04:47] <cluelessperson_> arraybolt3, ^ yes, I used nvidia-xconfig to generate the xorg.conf  removed everything except the one section  "Device" and configured it to point at the amd gpu
[04:51] <cluelessperson_> I can't get the boot menu
[04:51] <cluelessperson_> enter decryption passphrase
[04:51] <cluelessperson_> stuck
[05:23] <ho> hello
[05:35] <cluelessperson_> I booted a usb drive with ubuntu, regained access to the encrypted system drive
[05:36] <cluelessperson_> and am modifying the xorg file back.
[05:55] <levi> For school I need to connect my host with the Ubuntu server on my virtualbox using ssh. I did thousand tutorials but it does not work. We need to use portforwarding so I tried to find the private ip of the ubuntu server with ip a. But I cant find it 😦
[06:54] <ravage> levi: "ip a" shows you the IP of your ubuntu server
[08:33] <agat> clear
[08:39] <TomyWork> I'm just trying to install the (i think) final upgrade on my 18.04 machine. I'm running into conflicts, because libodbc1:i386 has a different version than libodbc1 now and they break each other if the version doesn't match
[08:39] <TomyWork> did i386 run out of support earlier than amd64 or is that an oversight?
[08:41] <TomyWork> I'm not even sure why I had libodbc1:i386 installed, but I guess I had *some* reason
[08:47] <TomyWork> eh I'll just remove it, what could possibly go wrong
[08:49] <webchat10> Hi,
[08:49] <webchat10> I have found that the python3-fastapi is broken in 22.04 LTS and I saw that this has already been reported (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fastapi/+bug/1970557). I subscribed the developer that seemed to me was the maintainer (according to https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fastapi), but he answers that he is just the Debian
[08:49] <webchat10> maintainer. So it looks to me that the python3-fastapi is not being looked at in Ubuntu and the bug is not assigned to anybody. What is the best advice to get that fixed in Ubuntu LTS?
[08:49] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Launchpad bug 1970557 in fastapi (Ubuntu) "ISE on any request" [Undecided, Confirmed]
[09:54] <ForeverNoob[m]> Hi, what would the most light weight Ubuntu flavor be? As in, least amount of packages and the most light weight WM or DE (or maybe even no WM or DE at all if possible) ?
[10:03] <lotuspsychje> ForeverNoob[m]: ubuntu server with an i3 ontop will be light
[10:03] <lotuspsychje> ForeverNoob[m]: lubuntu is also very lighty
[10:04] <ForeverNoob[m]> lotuspsychje: As I've found out the hard way, Ubuntu Server is actually not an official flavor of Ubuntu.
[10:04] <ForeverNoob[m]> Pretty weird, I know, but apparently that is how it is.
[10:05] <oerheks> ubuntu server is an official flavor.
[10:06] <ForeverNoob[m]> oerheks: Then why isn't it listed here? https://ubuntu.com/desktop/flavours
[10:07] <oerheks> as it is not a desktop..
[10:07] <ForeverNoob[m]> Also, I've had a long discussion over at #ubuntu-studio:matrix.org where the lead dev specifically told me it wasn't a flavor.
[10:07] <ForeverNoob[m]> So I don't know anymore.
[10:08] <ForeverNoob[m]> IIRC Ubuntu Server is a derivative.
[10:08] <lotuspsychje> lol
[10:14] <ForeverNoob[m]> Well either way you can read the discussion here: https://matrix.to/#/!qvIZMBMUSaddhNqJHG:matrix.org/$7J7aoofnm3tTumyvAfL2lhPS1lN3iR1PocIPLYZMkQ8?via=libera.chat&via=matrix.org&via=basspistol.org - tl;dr I had spent a week installing and configuring Ubuntu Server so that I could have a minimal pro audio studio setup and found out that it wasn't actually a flavor according to the devs there.
[10:16] <lotuspsychje> ForeverNoob[m]: as oerheks just stated, -server is not a desktop
[10:16] <ForeverNoob[m]> But it is an official flavor?
[10:16] <lotuspsychje> but the more experience users do use it as a base to config i3 on for example, and use it as a daily driver
[10:19] <ForeverNoob[m]> Well it certainly seems confusing. So out of the desktop flavors, is Lubuntu the most light weight?
[10:20] <lotuspsychje> ForeverNoob[m]: lubuntu doesnt aim to be the lightest anymore like they used to, but its still very light, togheter with xubuntu and mate
[10:21] <lotuspsychje> !flavours
[10:24] <ForeverNoob[m]> That links to https://ubuntu.com/desktop/flavours
[10:24] <ForeverNoob[m]> But I'll be checking out Lubuntu, thanks for the recommendations.
[11:08] <kek_> hi so how do I use the docs? I'm trying to figure out where systemd timers and services go in ubuntu but in the docs I can't find anything? Isn't there like a simple wiki?
[11:09] <akik> kek_: /etc/systemd/system for your own stuff
[11:10] <kek_> akik, where is that documented?
[11:11] <akik> kek_: https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/system.conf.d.html
[11:12] <akik> "Files in /etc/ are reserved for the local administrator, who may use this logic to override the configuration files installed by vendor packages."
[11:13] <akik> kek_: also; https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd.unit.html
[11:14] <akik> "/etc/systemd/system - System units created by the administrator"
[11:14] <kek_> akik, yeah but how do I know I can trust the ubuntu to implement it like that? Usually, such things depend on the distro. E.g. apache2 was very different depending on the distro. That's why I look for docs on the ubuntu site.
[11:17] <akik> kek_: i don't know. the ubuntu wiki is hopelessly out-dated
[11:18] <akik> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Home?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=systemd&titlesearch=Titles
[11:19] <kek_> thanks
[12:21] <Linnak_> Hi, after an update Ubuntu ask password every time I want to open the secondary hard drive also I dont have permisson to open an USB pendrive even if I use Nautilus from terminal 'sudo nautilus' as root.
[12:28] <krasauskas> Hi, I have an issue with apt constantly trying to update containers-common with the same version. I've run apt upgrade a dozen times in a row and it's always the same - it "updates" the package without an error, but the next run will update it again. Here's paste - https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/G5n58jY6Cb/
[12:28] <krasauskas> Is there anything I can do to mark it up to date or something?
[12:56] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[12:57] <collabvm> im just coming to say
[12:57] <collabvm> fuck you and fuck this
[12:57] <collabvm> fuck this distro
[12:58] <collabvm> I <3 ARTIX
[13:09] <koffeinfriedhof> Thanks for sharing this detailed information ^^
[13:15] <Stuart> Hello everyone. I am a bit of a ubuntu and git noob. I am trying to install a patch using git and ubuntu terminal. I cant seem to get the patch to work at all. does anyone have git knowledge?
[13:42] <SteelRose> Hello! has anyone here successfully configured their Ubuntu 20.04 LTS to use Barco's ClickShare devices? The official page clearly states that they won't support Linux anymore... but that's why I ask here :-) Thanks
[14:08] <Keksimus> https://paste.linux.chat/?e5cfb0d78ae57e5c#B34uVyusr8A9eLyorceTbkdQJwSQBPjdaYazDu7u5tu4 how fix this?
[14:11] <leftyfb> Keksimus: what exactly are you trying to compile?
[14:16] <Keksimus> leftyfb: i need test this long-suffering fix) https://bugzilla.kernel.org/attachment.cgi?id=304141&action=diff
[14:34] <atmark> hello, is the  package in focal-proposed repo the same package when it gets promoted to focal-updates ?
[14:34] <arraybolt3> Yes, though packages in -proposed may be entirely broken so proceed with caution.
[14:35] <arraybolt3> Generally it is *always* a good idea to let a package migrate o -updates.
[14:41] <atmark> awesome. thanks
[14:44] <UnivrslSuprBox> I'm only pulling between 200 and 500 kilobytes/s from cdimage.u.c and ports.u.c today, tried with a few different hosts across the US. Anyone else seeing the same?
[14:44] <jhutchins> UnivrslSuprBox: Sun spots.
[15:20] <atmark> arraybolt3: follow up question, do you know how soon they promote from proposed to updates?
[15:21] <atmark> The package I'm looking at is `linux-image-generic-hwe-20.04_5.15.0.70.77`
[15:21] <atmark> It's already in updates in Jammy release
[15:22] <arraybolt3> atmark: It depends. Basically a package in -proposed is in testing. Packages in -proposed stay for a *minimum* of seven days to be tested, with exceptions granted in certain severe edge cases. After seven days, if the package has been tested and works, it will be released. Otherwise it will remain in -proposed until it is tested.
[15:22] <arraybolt3> (There's also a bit more delay since someone has to see that the package has aged long enough and has been tested, and then they manually "push buttons" to migrate it.)
[15:23]  * u8353v[m] uploaded an image: (91KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/XxIEBusDELMxaJgOuxNZFkLK/image.png >
[15:23] <arraybolt3> If you want the technical detail, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates
[15:23] <atmark> I can see the package in focal-proposed but not there yet in focal-updates
[15:23] <arraybolt3> atmark: Just be patient, it will come through if it's safe. Is there some reason you need that update right now?
[15:24] <arraybolt3> Also even once a package migrates to -updates, there's also...
[15:24] <arraybolt3> !phasedupdates
[15:24] <u8353v[m]> Trying to configure snort.
[15:24] <u8353v[m]> Why do i have two networks besides **lo**
[15:24] <u8353v[m]> and **wg-mullvad** belonging to mullvad vpn?
[15:24] <arraybolt3> So that can delay things even more for the sake of safety. Ubuntu is designed to be very stable, and stability takes time to do right.
[15:24]  * u8353v[m] uploaded an image: (20KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/GCAUdWKkgPtBBVMfKWJDYLib/image.png >
[15:27] <lotuspsychje> u8353v[m]: please not here, this is the ubuntu support channel
[15:27] <arraybolt3> lotuspsychje: I think they're trying to configure something on Ubuntu, though, right?
[15:28] <lotuspsychje> right
[15:28] <arraybolt3> The images they uploaded are screenshots. They're using Matrix.
[15:28] <lotuspsychje> u8353v[m]: do you have an ubuntu support question that comes with your pic?
[15:29] <arraybolt3> lotuspsychje: See the backlog, they asked a question.
[15:29] <arraybolt3> 10:24 <u8353v[m]> Trying to configure snort.
[15:29] <arraybolt3> 10:24 <u8353v[m]> Why do i have two networks besides **lo**
[15:29] <arraybolt3> 10:24 <u8353v[m]> and **wg-mullvad** belonging to mullvad vpn?
[15:29] <atmark> arraybolt3: Yes. The one in proposed contains kernel patch fix that I need
[15:32] <atmark> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/5.15.0-70.77 and the patch I'm looking at ` KVM: SVM: fix tsc scaling cache logic`
[15:34] <arraybolt3> atmark: If you can, it would be highly recommended to be patient until it comes out. If you're really in a hurry, you *can* enable -proposed, install just the updated kernel, and then disable -proposed and get it early, but this is very much not recommended, and could break your system altogether.
[15:34] <arraybolt3> (Especially if you forget to disable -proposed or if you update everything from -proposed.)
[15:41] <atmark> arraybolt3: Noted. Appreciate the info
 "u8353v: do you have an ubuntu..." <- Honestly i am not sure.
[15:56] <u8353v[m]> I just wonder why do i have two networks?
[15:56] <u8353v[m]> I am trying to find a network related group to post the question.
[15:57] <u8353v[m]> I understand this might be considered spam. So i am seeking a network group.
[15:57] <akik> u8353v[m]: check what "nmcli conn show" shows in the terminal
[15:58] <akik> u8353v[m]: if you notice the extra network connection there, you can also remove it with nmcli
[15:59] <jhutchins> u8353v[m]: Where do you see two networks?  Do you have two interfaces?  What kind of system is this/
[15:59] <jhutchins> ?
[15:59] <akik> u8353v[m]: nmcli conn delete --help
[16:00]  * u8353v[m] uploaded an image: (12KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/LbkOGHtfIkBJGVfrllYQqJpz/image.png >
[16:00] <u8353v[m]> with "nmcli conn show" things look alright!
[16:01] <u8353v[m]> it's just with "ip link" that shows a device i don't know what it is for
[16:01] <akik> u8353v[m]: don't hold back you info
[16:01] <u8353v[m]> nmcli conn show - does not show the name of the device
[16:02] <u8353v[m]> could this be pointing to a security issue?
[16:02] <u8353v[m]> it is the reasons i want to install "snort"
[16:02] <akik> u8353v[m]: you haven't told what the extra interface is
[16:02] <u8353v[m]> akik: is it safe to post all the content without obscuring anything?
[16:02] <akik> u8353v[m]: just tell the name of the interface
[16:03] <u8353v[m]> "wlp59s0"
[16:03] <akik> u8353v[m]: that's a wireless network interface in your system
[16:03] <u8353v[m]> this is the 3rd interface i don't know what is for
[16:04] <akik> u8353v[m]: if you want to get rid of it block the loading of the kernel module for it
[16:04] <u8353v[m]> akik: why does't "nmcli conn show" show the network?
[16:04] <akik> u8353v[m]: it's just a network interface for now with no configured network connections
[16:04] <u8353v[m]> s/does/doesn/
[16:05] <u8353v[m]> akik: got it! 🙂
[16:05] <u8353v[m]> the 2nd network is the one i must configure for snort, obviously?
[16:05] <u8353v[m]> i am new to this stuff and my networking knowledge is small
[16:06] <akik> u8353v[m]: you can check with: ip addr show dev wlp59s0
[16:06] <akik> u8353v[m]: that shows if it has an ip address configured
[16:07] <akik> u8353v[m]: i haven't installed snort but usually you configure service to bind to a certain interface or for all of them (bind to 0.0.0.0 in that case)
[16:08] <u8353v[m]> akik: it has the changed macaddress and the permanent macaddress. no ip!
[16:08] <u8353v[m]> akik: i am following this article https://www.sunnyvalley.io/docs/linux-tutorials/how-to-install-and-configure-snort-on-ubuntu-linux
[16:09] <u8353v[m]> the reason for snort is detecting a possible backdoor installed on my system
[16:09] <u8353v[m]> after snort i'll give suricata a go!
[16:09] <akik> u8353v[m]: did you run into some problem?
[16:10] <u8353v[m]> akik: no. it's just that i sense something could be going on.
[16:10] <u8353v[m]> i noticed some strange behaviours
[16:10] <u8353v[m]> reason why i moved from windows to linux
[16:12] <akik> u8353v[m]: what strange thing?
[16:13] <u8353v[m]> installed teams unofficial app based on electron and had my monitors flicking a lot and like double screens on top of it
[16:13] <u8353v[m]> english is not my 1st language so i apologize for some grammar mistake or incorrect term!
[16:13] <akik> u8353v[m]: oh but that's not related to snort
[16:13] <akik> u8353v[m]: you can be understood just fine
[16:14] <u8353v[m]> akik: no! i am installing snort to see if someone is monitoring my screens activity?
[16:14] <u8353v[m]> Like what you achiebe with cisco meraki etc
[16:14] <u8353v[m]> s/achiebe/achieve/
[16:15] <u8353v[m]> with this software you can see what users on a lan are doing
[16:15] <u8353v[m]> https://www.solarwinds.com/network-management-software
[16:16] <u8353v[m]> companies use this to monitors user activity.
[16:16] <u8353v[m]> i want to make sure my monitors are not being recorded!
[16:16] <u8353v[m]> i use kubuntu
[16:16] <u8353v[m]> * on a **lan, * lan** are
[16:19] <akik> u8353v[m]: i'm really not sure if snort will help you in that
[16:20] <u8353v[m]> akik: it's an intrusion detection system suite
[16:20] <u8353v[m]> what about sirucata?
[16:20] <u8353v[m]> or whats the best software, payed or not you recommend?
[16:20] <u8353v[m]> otherwise i'll have to move to parabola gnu/linux and get a fully foss compatible hardware
[16:21] <akik> u8353v[m]: sorry i can't say
[16:21] <u8353v[m]> s/sirucata/suricata/
[16:22] <u8353v[m]> have to ask uncle google then 😀
[16:22] <u8353v[m]> s/😀/:)/
[16:26] <gustav0lopez> Hi all, my Ubuntu 22.04 on my Vaio laptop randomly crashes on Gnome.
[16:26] <lotuspsychje> u8353v[m]: https://www.howtogeek.com/devops/how-to-use-the-snort-intrusion-detection-system-on-linux/
[16:29] <u8353v[m]> lotuspsychje: trying to find out if it detects backdoors
[16:31] <lotuspsychje> u8353v[m]: well the scope of this channel is more ubuntu issue related, and not pentesting
[16:32] <lotuspsychje> u8353v[m]: see also the wiki; https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SnortIDS
[17:02] <Guest65> v22, In grub menu I choose recovery, select fsck, and get this error: /lib/recovery-mode/recovery menu: line 80: /etc default/rcS: No such file or directory fsck from util-linux 2.37.2   /dev/sda2 is mounted. e2fsck: Cannot continue: aborting. Finished, please press ENTER.. any thoughts???
 "u8353v: see also the wiki; https..." <- this article is good. thanks!
[17:10] <jhutchins> Paranoia: Driving the American economy through fear.
[17:25] <hsiktas[m]> is hardware-accelerated video decoding possible with the Firefox snap?
[17:30] <leftyfb> hsiktas[m]: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Firefox_Hardware_acceleration#Web_page_rendering
[17:30] <leftyfb> hsiktas[m]: first result on google when searching for "firefox test hardware acceleration"
[17:38] <hsiktas[m]> I know about:support but somehow it is blocked on my device by a gfxinfo blocklist
[17:39] <leftyfb> huh?
[17:41] <Windy> trying to troubleshoot microk8s - 'microk8s status' shows that it's *not* running.  'microk8s kubectl get nodes' says a cert expired, but 'microk8s refresh-cert -c' shows the CA cert as valid for a number of years yet.  any ideas?
[17:42] <leftyfb> Windy: try #kubernetes
[17:42] <Windy> leftyfb: ok.  thought I might find some microk8s specific info here, but you may be right
[17:52] <ForeverNoob[m]> Suppose I want to add a repo into my `/etc/apt/sources.list.d/` - I have to specify the component it seems, but which should I specify? Does it fall under one of these 4 components? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories#Components - I'm adding this as repo: https://non-gnu.uvt.nl/debian/ (more specifically: https://non-gnu.uvt.nl/debian/jammy/mpv/) - I feel like "Universe" fits the description most accurately but isn't that
[17:52] <ForeverNoob[m]> restricted to official Ubuntu repos?
[18:00] <leprechaun> when will ubuntu 23.04 be out?
[18:01] <ForeverNoob[m]> And also... mpv is already present in universe in Ubuntu's own repo. If I specify that as universe as well, would that create an issue?
[18:02] <ForeverNoob[m]> leprechaun: There's still 11 days remaining :)
[18:03] <leprechaun> damn :) I was thinking the release would be out the 20'th
[18:04] <Bleeder001> Is there a way to create multiple "personas" / "spaces" for different task (that would affect the GNOME/Ubuntu dash too) without creating more than one user account?
[18:05] <ForeverNoob[m]> leprechaun: Luckily it wasn't on the 1st :)
[18:06] <leprechaun> true :)
[18:06] <leftyfb> ForeverNoob[m]: sudo snap install mpv-wayland
[18:07] <leftyfb> ForeverNoob[m]: that will give you mpv version 0.35.1 which is the same version that "repo" has
[18:07] <olspookishmagus> hello, should I have installed Ubuntu 21.04 LTS on a thin client PC (Acer Veriton X270) and I want to give it some WiFi interface, should I expect a TP-Link TL-WN722N to work instantmagically or ... ?
[18:07] <leftyfb> olspookishmagus: ubuntu 21.04 is End of Life and unsupported
[18:08] <ForeverNoob[m]> leftyfb: And that one will also give me hardware acceleration?
[18:09] <ForeverNoob[m]> Because the one installed via Nix for example doesn't (without jumping through hoops at least)
[18:10] <leftyfb> Nix isn’t a supported package manager on Ubuntu
[18:10] <Bleeder001> Can I use and customize different workspaces that are persistent after restart? Or is there something else I can do other than having two+ user account? Anyone?
[18:11] <ForeverNoob[m]> leftyfb: I know, that's why I'm trying to install it via native methods.
[18:36] <olspookishmagus> leftyfb: I did I typo there, I meant 20.04 LTS
[19:10] <ForeverNoob[m]> leftyfb: https://paste.debian.net/1277851/ - I get permission denied errors and the binary is called `mpv-wayland` - If I do `ln -s /snap/bin/mpv-wayland ~/.local/bin/mpv` then that doesn't seem to work because that links to `/usr/bin/snap` and that one doesn't understand flags for mpv, so if I then do `mpv --pause` it just forwards that flag to snap, which doesn't understand it.
[19:14] <ForeverNoob[m]> So far installing mpv via snap doesn't seem to be a breeze, so if possible I'd like to know how I could install from that repo (more specifically, which components I must specify in sources.list format), or if I can get help in resolving these issues with mpv-wayland that would be nice too.
[19:52] <sarnold> ForeverNoob[m]: you might be able to connect some snap interfaces to allow your snap to access the files you want it to access
[19:52] <sarnold> ForeverNoob[m]: I think there's a permissions tab in the software center? check that
[19:53] <sarnold> https://ubuntu.com/blog/a-guide-to-snap-permissions-and-interfaces shows a 'permissions' button somewhere, does that look familiar?
[19:56] <ForeverNoob[m]> sarnold: I don't have the Software Center, but this is the output to `snap interface`: https://paste.debian.net/1277858/ - I'm not able to do a `snap interfaces mpv-wayland` like described there.
[19:58] <sarnold> ForeverNoob[m]: does 'snap connections' work?
[19:59] <ForeverNoob[m]> Seems so, yeah: https://paste.debian.net/1277860/
[20:02] <sarnold> ah it looks like it's already hooked up for :home. I think.
[20:06] <ioria> i'd try to run these two cmds 8you'llnver know): https://snapcraft.io/mpv-wayland ForeverNoob[m]
[20:08] <sarnold> nice, actual docs :)
[20:09] <ForeverNoob[m]> ioria: But I already have yt-dlp installed. Does this install it but via snap?
[20:09] <ioria> yeah
[20:10] <ioria> but it's something else ; i guess you got ytdl from git or its repo
[20:11] <ForeverNoob[m]> Then I'm afraid even more scripts might break because yt-dlp now got replaced with snap (similar issue as with symlinking mpv to mpv-wayland)
[20:12] <ioria> yt-dlp is available via snap and via apt
[20:13] <ForeverNoob[m]> ioria: I have yt-dlp installed via Nix, but I might try installing it via Snap but yeah I'm concerned about not being able to call it through my (shell) scripts.
[20:13] <ForeverNoob[m]> Yeah but apt has an older version of yt-dlp.
[20:16] <ForeverNoob[m]> Ok, well I suppose I can install it and if it breaks then I can revert to the previous situation.
[20:20] <ForeverNoob[m]> Still gives me that permission error :(
[20:25] <Guest29> I'm excited for the new ubuntu release, it could be released any minute now it feels like.
[20:27] <Windy> Guest29: what's new this time around?
[20:28] <Guest29> Well for one, I'm finally happy to see GTK 4.10 for ubuntu and all the official spins, meaning that blasted file picker meme bug is dead for ubuntu based systems.
[20:30] <Guest29> Also, ubuntu has GNOME 44. Other than that, I can't really think of anything ground breaking because scanning through the release notes, it's mostly just package updates and newer kernel.
[20:31] <Guest29> Kubuntu 23.04 should be a smooth experience because the KDE team has done a great job so far with squashing bugs in 5.27.0-5.27.3 and Kubuntu 23.04 is getting the latest KDE.
[20:33] <Jardayn> Hey Folks. shift+ctrl are changing my input language. Tried settings, gnome shortcuts. Nda. I'm on 22.04
[20:33] <Jardayn> Maybe someone's got ideas?
[20:34] <Guest29> That's weird, what is your locale and $LANG supposed to be?
[20:35] <Jardayn> It used to be english. But that's fine. I have 3 keyboard inputs specified
[20:35] <Jardayn> it's just that there's a shortcut for changing the input language that I can't change
[20:35] <Guest29> Do you have gnome-tweaks installed?
[20:35] <Jardayn> I have "next/prev input source" setup. Those work fine
[20:36] <Jardayn> yes
[20:36] <Jardayn> well.. i used to
[20:37] <koffeinfriedhof> Jardayn: check if the XKB group ctrl_shift_toggle is activated (gnome tweaks could help, or some dconf-magic stuff ;) )
[20:37] <Guest29> Try reinstalling gnome-tweaks, that might be where you disable the shortcut to change lang on ctrl + shift.
[20:37] <Jardayn> koffeinfriedhof, how do I check that?
[20:38] <Guest29> Won't the XKB idea not work if Jardayn is under a wayland session?
[20:38] <Jardayn> Ащгтв ше
[20:38] <Jardayn> Found it
[20:39] <Guest29> What did you do to find it?
[20:39] <Jardayn> SO!
[20:39] <koffeinfriedhof> Jardayn: I have no idea of GNOME, sorry. I just know that XKB has this toggle preconfigured. Try `localectl` to check systemwide settings.
[20:39] <Jardayn> I had Gnome Tweaks beforehand.
[20:39] <Jardayn> Upgraded to 22.04
[20:39] <Jardayn> Gnome tweaks got uninstalled, but the keybinds persisted
[20:39] <koffeinfriedhof> Guest29: xkb is independend from wayland or better: wayland does use xkb itself, iBus does too
[20:39] <Jardayn> Installed gnome tweaks, the shortcut was there
[20:40] <Jardayn> er
[20:40] <Jardayn> yeah the shortcut was there
[20:41] <Jardayn> weird stuff
[20:41] <Guest29> What's weird to me is that an upgrade removed gnome-tweaks.
[20:41] <koffeinfriedhof> Keyboard is always confusing stuff as signals are mapped a billion times.
[20:42] <Jardayn> It removed gnome tweaks and gnome extensions
[20:42] <Jardayn> Yeah... and there's no easy way to find all those darn shortcuts
[20:43] <Jardayn> Man, thank you guys
[20:43] <Jardayn> Had a burning prod but and this was screwing me over
[20:44] <opa7331> Is kubuntu 23.04 flavor getting 5 year support? I'd like to give it a try
[20:44] <koffeinfriedhof> Depends. You can use wev/xev vor GUI, evtest to check after the kernel mapping, debug the kernel driver(s) and on some devices even the keyboard controller itself. But with wayland you can have one layout per window/application which is real fun ;)
[20:45] <koffeinfriedhof> opa7331: No Kubuntu gets 5 years support (but 14.04 I think). Always 3 years max.
[20:47] <Jardayn> I should really get into arch
[20:48] <koffeinfriedhof> Jardayn: https://parabola.nu ;) Have fun. All free, all editable — start to blame hardware manufactures easily :D
[20:49] <Jardayn> user-friendly operating system
[20:49] <Jardayn> Arch
[20:49] <Jardayn> I'll start with a VM, heh
[20:50] <ForeverNoob[m]> Suppose an app is available via Ubuntu's repos (universe) but I've also added my own repo which has a higher version of that app. How can I tell apt to always install highest version of that app (and thus use my own repo) ?
[20:53] <koffeinfriedhof> ForeverNoob[m]: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto apt pinning should do the trick
[20:53] <Fossil> Why would mv -f A B      say: A and B are the same file?
[20:54] <koffeinfriedhof> Fossil: hardlink?
[20:54] <Fossil> Both are hardlinks
[20:54] <Fossil> hah yes
[20:54] <Fossil> I need the source file to not exist after doing mv and it finds a dupe it cant overwrite
[20:54] <koffeinfriedhof> Fossil: check `ls -i`
[20:55] <koffeinfriedhof> that shows the inode. Or catch the error and do a rm only if files are equal
[20:56] <Fossil> Yeah same inode. I am doing a find | xargs. Need to make this a tad more complicated I guess
[20:56] <Fossil> I figured mv would just "work" in this scenario
[20:57] <Fossil> rsync copies the file which is slow
[21:01] <koffeinfriedhof> I have no idea how to do this without further checking.
[21:09] <WindowPainz> hi
[22:02] <oehman> When will ubuntu 23.04 be released?
[22:07] <genii> !release
[22:08] <genii> hm
[22:08] <genii> !schedule
[22:08] <oehman> 20'th but on what timezone
[22:08] <genii> UK office hours
[22:09] <oehman> hmm plenty of time left then
[22:09] <genii> Yep
[22:13] <Eickmeyer> genii: Not necessarily. Sometimes it is US Pacific office hours as some release team members reside on the US West Coast.
[23:05] <jmw> the screen session from do-release-upgrade crashed on me, while it was configuring packages. How do I find and get back into that screen session?
[23:11] <sarnold> jmw: good question; try screen -RAD   -- i used to use that all the time when I used screen, but I always started with that command, too ..
[23:12] <leftyfb> pretty sure the screen session dies if the upgrade fails. I think the only option from that point is to run sudo apt full-upgrade
[23:13] <sarnold> oh :(
[23:13] <jmw> there's a zombie dpkg --configure running holding some locks
[23:14] <jmw> the upgrade didn't fail, screen flipped out with my mouse scroll wheel input and blew up