| Eickmeyer | alkisg: o/ | 14:55 |
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| alkisg | Oh. Matrix said "1 user here" :D | 14:55 |
| Eickmeyer | Weird. | 14:56 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | Don't know if you know, but there is a direct #edubuntu:matrix.org room. | 14:57 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | (that way you're not going through the bridge) | 14:58 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | aaronprisk: 👋 | 14:58 |
| alkisg | Didn't know; coming there... | 14:59 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | Perfect! | 14:59 |
| alkisg | Better! :) | 14:59 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | Yep. That makes it less "bridgy", even thoug it's still bridged. | 14:59 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | alkisg: I understand you're still developing LTSP? | 15:00 |
| aaronprisk[m] | 👋 Hello! | 15:00 |
| alkisg | Eickmeyer: yes, I'm developing LTSP, we're using it in 1000+ greek schools here, along with ubuntu mate | 15:01 |
| arraybolt3 | Eickmeyer[m]: Didn't know that either! | 15:02 |
| alkisg | It's a good time to modify the /topic! :D | 15:03 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | Excellent! I'm thinking of doing a minimal install mode next release that has everything, but with the client. | 15:03 |
| alkisg | We're also developing/using epoptes.org | 15:03 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | Yes! epoptes! That's the word I was looking for! | 15:03 |
| aaronprisk[m] | Epoptes is fantastic. A lot of schools that I work with have been using it for their Linux deployments. | 15:04 |
| alkisg | And there's a nice tool for user management for schools, it's in greek only; we once internationalized it and uploaded it to debian experimental as "ltsp-manager", but at that exact time we suffered a year of no sponsoring, and neglected it, and it didn't get traction | 15:04 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | alkisg: No official email yet from the release team, so can't push the buttons yet. | 15:05 |
| alkisg | Ah, sorry, I didn't notice, I already downloaded all the isos :D | 15:05 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | alkisg: I'd love to take a look at that. I can sponsor to Ubuntu. | 15:05 |
| arraybolt3[m] | I'mma see if I can fix the Wikipedia page. | 15:05 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | arraybolt3[m]: Even the Ubuntu Studio Wikipedia page is a hot mess. | 15:06 |
| alkisg | Eickmeyer: it's worth it to do a "greek school installation" in a VM once; it takes 10 minutes per school to have everything ready: https://ts.sch.gr/wiki/linux/ltsp/ | 15:06 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | Yikes, my greek is very rusty. | 15:07 |
| alkisg | But unfortunately the UI of that apps is greek only for now | 15:07 |
| alkisg | Google translate to the rescue :) | 15:07 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | :) | 15:07 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | I had to learn some Koine Greek in college, but never enough to be fluent. | 15:08 |
| arraybolt3[m] | OK so MediaWiki is just about impossible to edit :P | 15:13 |
| * alkisg clicks "Δοκιμάστε το Edubuntu" ((Try Edubuntu) :)) | 15:13 | |
| arraybolt3[m] | OK so maybe not just about impossible but WikiText is horrible and the visual editor isn't fully featured yet. | 15:14 |
| aaronprisk[m] | Eickmeyer: do you have a link to Edubuntu 23.04 release notes? | 15:14 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | arraybolt3[m]: Sadly, that tracks. | 15:14 |
| * arraybolt3[m] has other stuff that needs attention, be back to catch up | 15:14 | |
| Eickmeyer[m] | aaronprisk[m]: Not yet, I'll have that once we post the release announcement because it'll be combined. | 15:15 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | Amy's at work, but she's logged-in on my comptuter. | 15:15 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | > * <@alkis:matrix.org> clicks "Δοκιμάστε το Edubuntu" ((Try Edubuntu) :)) | 15:18 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | I think you'll lke it. Sadly, the new tools (Edubuntu Installer and Edubuntu Menu Administration) aren't translated (yet). | 15:18 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | Nor are the application folders. | 15:18 |
| alkisg | To be honest, gnome is the most unsuitable DE for greek schools, so we stopped testing it, and it broke even more. E.g. if I select "Greek" in the initial screen, I cannot even type English anymore to type the username at the installer... | 15:20 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | That sounds like a Ubiquity bug. | 15:20 |
| alkisg | It's the im-config/ibus invasion | 15:20 |
| alkisg | I reported it like 10 times in the last 10 years,then I lost interest | 15:21 |
| alkisg | The main reason we stopped using gnome after 12.04 was because of the 3d requirement, about 80% of the school computers couldn't run it reliably | 15:21 |
| alkisg | (opengl) | 15:21 |
| arraybolt3 | (The Edubuntu installer should work on other flavors?) | 15:21 |
| arraybolt3 | So you could make Edubuntu MATE if you wanted. | 15:21 |
| aaronprisk[m] | alkisg: I'm curious, why did you choose MATE over XFCE? | 15:21 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | Yes. edubuntu-installer does. So, Ubuntu MATE + edubuntu-installer should solve that problem for you. | 15:21 |
| alkisg | aaronprisk: because of stability, mate = the work of professional developers that developed gnome, then mass-renamed by open source contributors, | 15:22 |
| alkisg | while xfce = the work of open source contributors. Sad as it is to admit it, big, fully paid teams get better results | 15:22 |
| aaronprisk[m] | > <@alkis:matrix.org> aaronprisk: because of stability, mate = the work of professional developers that developed gnome, then mass-renamed by open source contributors, | 15:23 |
| aaronprisk[m] | > while xfce = the work of open source contributors. Sad as it is to admit it, big, fully paid teams get better results | 15:23 |
| aaronprisk[m] | Got it. Thank you for sharing your perspective! | 15:23 |
| alkisg | :) | 15:23 |
| alkisg | Eickmeyer: most apps for schools are KDE based, MATE is getting a bit neglected currently; so for maybe 26.04 we might switch to kubuntu... we'll see | 15:24 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | alkisg: Be warned, by then Plasma Desktop 6 will be a thing. | 15:24 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | I don't know what that's going to look like, but hopefully the transition from 5 to 6 will go smoothly. Plasma 5.27, which just released, is the last version of Plasma 5 (and is an LTS release). | 15:26 |
| * Eickmeyer[m] has to go take my son to school | 15:26 | |
| alkisg | Cheers :) | 15:26 |
| * Eickmeyer[m] starts pushing buttons for release | 16:36 | |
| Eickmeyer[m] | aaronprisk: release notes/announcement: https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/edubuntu-23-04-released/35281 | 16:41 |
| === Eickmeyer changed the topic of #edubuntu to: Edubuntu Development and Discussion | 23.04 is out! | ||
| aaronprisk[m] | Download and Release notes links are both live: | 17:18 |
| aaronprisk[m] | https://edubuntu.org/ | 17:18 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | aaronprisk: Thanks! | 17:18 |
| aaronprisk[m] | Happy to help! Please pass along my congratulations to Amy on the big revival release! | 17:22 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | I'll pass the word along! | 17:27 |
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