[00:19] <OvenWerks> hmm, my computer says I can upgrade.... ok.
[00:48] <OvenWerks> Hmm, the upgrade process should probably turn off plasma notifications. About half way through the upgrade while the new packages are in stalling, I start getting notifications saying I should reboot :P
[00:58] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer: when doing the distribution upgrade. First something pops up telling me it is there, so I click on it, it fails with no error, but I think maybe I should make sure sw is up to date so I do that. Then I try it again and it works fine so I guess that was the problem. Now the upgrade starts. I keep getting pop up notices saying I need to reboot, but the upgrade has not got there yet, 
[00:58] <OvenWerks> it is still installing the new packages. I am pretty sure if someone was to click on the reboot message and reboot, it would not do good things for the upgrade (ie may not reboot).
[00:59] <Eickmeyer> Yeah, there's no way to supress that.
[00:59] <Eickmeyer> Once the file is written to trigger the reboot notification, the reboot notification fires.
[01:00] <OvenWerks> I wonder how many of the "my upgrade failed" reports are caused by something like that
[01:01] <Eickmeyer> Unfortunately, the reboot notification is caused by a package upgrade, not by the upgrader itself.
[01:01] <Eickmeyer> But yeah, that's possible.
[01:04] <OvenWerks> Would it be worthwhile closing the status and notifications applet? or is that separate?
[01:10] <Eickmeyer> That's separate.
[01:12] <OvenWerks> it wants to remove zita-njbridge
[01:13] <OvenWerks> I guess I will need to reinstall that. Was it removed from the US install? I don't remember installing it separately
[01:13] <OvenWerks> Oh, no controls maybe?
[01:13] <Eickmeyer> Yeah, controls.
[01:14] <Eickmeyer> OvenWerks: https://ubuntustudio.org/switching-audio-setup/
[01:14] <OvenWerks> ok, rebooting
[01:20] <OvenWerks> That seemed to work.... pipewire shows 6 audio devices on a laptop :P I think pipewire should figure out that just because the graphics cards shows hdmi audio.... they are not there if no hdmi monitor is plugged in
[01:22] <Eickmeyer> Strange, my systems don't have that issue.
[01:24] <OvenWerks> display knows I only have one display
[01:25] <OvenWerks> My audio card is called:sofhdadsp ??
[01:25] <Eickmeyer> Might just be your system, or your display reports it has audio capabilities even if it doesn't.
[01:26] <Eickmeyer>  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[01:26] <OvenWerks> xrandr only shows one display
[01:28] <OvenWerks> /proc/asound/sofhdadsp is a mess There are a lot of subdevices
[01:30] <OvenWerks> I need to learn to blacklist devices in pipewire
[01:31] <OvenWerks> The audio setup does not show most of them, but they show up in the jack graph (Carla etc)
[01:32] <OvenWerks> jack_lsp says I have 20 ports.
[01:34] <OvenWerks> It is interesting that the desktop side of pipewire is correct, the jack side doesn't try
[01:35] <Eickmeyer> Some of the inputs are actually monitors of the outputs.
[01:50] <OvenWerks> yes but HDMI 1,2 and 3 which do not show up in the pulse side of pipewire, do show up in jack. I think if pipewire is smart enough not to show them in one place it should be the same in the other
[01:51] <OvenWerks>  I think, but am not sure, the monitors can be turned off in the jack graph
[02:02] <OvenWerks> firefox wiped all my bookmarks :P
[02:02] <Eickmeyer> That seems strange and possibly bugworthy.
[02:03] <Eickmeyer> Especially since your profile is located in ~/snap/.mozilla
[02:03] <Eickmeyer> Or something to that effect.
[02:21] <arraybolt3> ~/snap/firefox/common/.mozilla?
[02:21] <arraybolt3> You might be able to use that to restore them.
[05:28] <OvenWerks> I'll try that.