[00:00] has anyone installed 23.04 release ? [00:01] probably JoeBk, he tries everything :) [00:01] * sarnold runs [00:02] I have not been able to install 23.04 and am wondering if anyone else had trouble. [00:02] :( [00:05] JoeBk: Not seen anyone else reporting such - what is not happening on your install attempt ? [00:06] Bashing-om, the install just hangs while downloadind stuff. I let it run for 2 1/2 hours before I gave up. The beta installs without problem. [00:06] when was that? I understand one of our archive servers was unhappy recently [00:07] yesterday [00:07] maybe it was just a bad server. I should try again. [00:10] JoeBk: Yeah try again - and verify the .ISO download (md5 is good enough for that) and there used to also be an option "check disk for defects" // I have not seen 23.04 yet so I do not know that the option still exists. [00:14] Bashing-om: there are no more .md5 [00:15] tomreyn: Ouch ! thanks for that notification. [00:17] you're welcome. i think those have been removed for all releases but <=16.04 [00:17] I verified the checksum. [00:18] JoeBk: now verify the data written to the installer medium [00:18] and tell us how much ram this system has [00:41] tomreyn, I verified the checksum on the install medium the the comuter has 32gb of ram. [00:42] i'll try it again. [00:42] maybe it was a server problem. === Sabotaged`Sabote is now known as Lewd`n`Lasciviou === Lewd`n`Lasciviou is now known as Lewd`Lascivious [01:03] sarnold, you there? [01:03] JoeBk: pong [01:04] sarnold, I just tried installing again. I was getting download speed around 3KB. I think there is a problem with the server. [01:05] JoeBk: *cripes* === JoeBk_ is now known as JoeBk [01:07] sarnold, I got disconnected. I said I think there is a problem with the server. [01:08] JoeBk: heh :( I just tested the four IPv4 addresses, and I got eight to 12 megabytes per second from them [01:08] hmmm [01:08] strange [01:09] It's clearly not working for me. [01:10] if you leave an mtr running to 8.8.8.8 for a while, what sort of packetloss and latency do you see? [01:12] no packet loss about 60ms delay [01:13] more lin 20ms [01:13] no packet loss [01:13] sarnold: which server would that be? maybe JoeBk should mtr there? [01:15] tomreyn: good idea :) [01:15] I've been asking if anyon e has been able to install 23.04 and I don;t get a response. [01:15] Connect 127.0.0.1 [01:15] archive.ubuntu.com -- 185.125.190.36 91.189.91.38 91.189.91.39 185.125.190.39 [01:16] are we certain the downloads are from archive.ubuntu.com and not one of the mirrors, though? [01:17] when I ping archive.ubuntu.com it goes to 185.125.190.39 [01:17] JoeBk: i think we would have seen a lot more reports of "does not work" here if it was a generic issue [01:19] what is 185.125.190.39? is that a mirror? [01:20] I'll try again in a few days. [01:20] that's one of the ip addresses archive.ubuntu.com resolves to, and probably one of the 4 or more central mirror servers [01:21] strange I was able to install the beta version without any problems. [01:23] not really strange, no. it just takes one bad router between you and one of the target servers to occasionally break things in the way you've reported. [01:29] JoeBk: simple test for those IPv4 mirrors: for IP in 185.125.190.36 91.189.91.38 91.189.91.39 185.125.190.39; do echo $IP; curl -4 -o /dev/null --resolve archive.ubuntu.com:80:$IP http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ls-lR.gz ; echo; done [01:30] you'd download 25 MB off each. if one takes a lot longer than the others, that's what you want to mtr against [01:30] there are also ipv6 mirrors, though, and they could also be the culprit [01:30] oh nice, that's smaller than the Contents-amd64.gz I tested with, but still large enough fora useful test [01:31] :) [01:37] tomreyn, slowest one was 2296k [01:39] JoeBk: and the fastest? [01:39] tomreyn, I should boot the flash drive and try the speed test there. [01:39] yes that would be even better, also with the ipv6 hosts, too [01:39] I closed the window. I'll look again. [01:41] the go from 2562k to 3463k [01:41] okay, that's fine then, if this matches your normal average download speed [01:41] brb === shokohsc6 is now known as shokohsc === blupier_ is now known as blupier [02:59] in case JoeBk returns they could run these scripts and post the output to a pastebin for review: https://github.com/tomreyn/scripts/blob/master/check_mirrors_headers_at_url https://github.com/tomreyn/scripts/blob/master/check_mirrors_speed_at_url [03:01] tomreyn: Ack ^ - I will be around for a couple more hours I expect. [03:12] thanks [03:13] it may be necessary to install package "dnsutils" [03:16] tomreyn, I did some screenshots while doing install to show download speed: https://drive.google.com/drive/u/1/folders/1LzysJqAhsy_lt_KKyVR7RvcGIT_j2RLz [03:22] JoeBk: < tomreyn> in case JoeBk returns they could run these scripts and post the output to a pastebin for review: https://github.com/tomreyn/scripts/blob/master/check_mirrors_headers_at_url ; https://github.com/tomreyn/scripts/blob/master/check_mirrors_speed_at_url // it may be necessary to install package "dnsutils". === elastic_dog is now known as Guest6263 [04:59] hi [04:59] is tlp for all lenovos or just thinkpads? [04:59] I am having a problem with overheating [05:00] and what is "rdw" radio device wizard? [05:07] migs: tlp > any laptop. please see the result ' apt show tlp '. How old is this machone - due for a good cleaning ? === ajfriesen9 is now known as ajfriesen === morpheuz3 is now known as morpheuz === waxfire67 is now known as waxfire6 === Irrelevant83 is now known as Irrelevant8 === VaultTec5 is now known as VaultTec === gschanuel58 is now known as gschanuel5 === lucenera2 is now known as lucenera === djhankb2 is now known as djhankb === michel_c13 is now known as michel_c12 === ledeni_ is now known as ledeni === halvors1 is now known as halvors === Cheburashka_ is now known as Cheburashka_21 === Cheburashka_21 is now known as Cheburashka_ === justache is now known as reddit-bot === reddit-bot is now known as justache === Whiskey` is now known as Lewd`Lascivious === Cheburashka_ is now known as Cheburashko [06:49] Hi, I am setting up an HP laptop with ubuntu, it has two GPU (Intel and Nvidea) do i need to do anything special to make sure the better GPU is used when needed? [06:52] NZWillDill: ubuntu will normaly install the drivers automaticly [06:53] ok thank you [06:53] NZWillDill: and nvidia-prime you can use to switch between your 2 cards [06:53] powersaving vs performance mode [06:54] ok thanks lotuspsychje, sounds like ubuntu has it under control. [06:54] if everything loaded fine, yes [06:55] NZWillDill: depending on your card model, ubuntu will let you switch between drivers too, but usualy the best driver is picked by default [08:00] :) [09:04] Hello, I am wanting to create a bootable usb ubuntu drive from within ubuntu, can anyone help? [09:05] please [09:08] RexDang: Use the starup USB creator [09:08] Comes with Ubuntu. [09:09] ok [09:09] Rexdang: Sorry, "startup disk creator" [09:09] THank you found it [09:09] yw. [09:10] IF you dont mind, a couple more questions, i plan to install ubuntu on my laptop, do I disable Secure boot, Fast boot etc? [09:11] Any other bios considerations [09:12] its an HP Probook g4 [09:21] anyone? [09:37] if nouveau doesn't support offloading, then how can I render something on nvidia on an optimus laptop? [09:38] Rexodus: are you going to singleboot ubuntu? [09:44] hello [09:59] Hi all...Does anyone know the default login for the new 23.04 Desktop live image? The old "ubuntu" does not work and I cannot find it anywhere on the docs. [10:10] chalcedny: i think it's the hostname of the live session [10:10] i read it somewhere [10:10] oops [10:10] csharp2a: i think it's the hostname of the live session [10:13] I had seen that also but how do you determine that hostname when the iso is running? [10:15] csharp2a: go into the virtual console with ctrl+alt+f3 [10:15] csharp2a: or open a terminal and run hostname [10:15] akik thank you [10:16] hi [10:17] @Nihilism Hello [10:28] akik The virtual console is showing ubuntu as the hostname but it will not take that as the login. I am completely stumped. [10:29] csharp2a: which ubuntu version is that? [10:29] akik 23.04 Lunar Lobster...just came out [10:29] oh maybe they changed it then [10:30] akik That is what I thought, but I am not finding any docu on it. You would think it would remain the same. [10:31] csharp2a: check the system's /etc/passwd for clues [10:31] Can't login to get there. I suppose I could mount the iso to find out.. [10:32] csharp2a: you can't start the live session? [10:32] akik Yes it will start but I cannot login at all. [10:32] It immediately asks for login and password [10:32] akik I starts with the gui login screen [10:33] csharp2a: you don't get the gui? [10:33] akik Nope, goes immediatly to the login screen [10:40] csharp2a: don't know then. maybe somebody else here knows [10:40] csharp2a: do you know why you don't get a gui? [10:45] csharp2a: maybe you could try booting it with kernel parameters that disable nouveau/nvidia and use i915 for the igpu [10:45] akik I have no idea why the gui does not start. I do get the gui login screen but then trying to login fails. I will keep looking. Thank you for your help! [10:48] csharp2a: the live session should start directly into the gui logged in [10:48] csharp2a: try creating the usb stick again and verify the iso checksum before that [10:49] akik will do [10:49] csharp2a: use dd to do it or rufus in windows (press alt-i once after starting rufus so it goes to the dd write mode) === Bocaneri is now known as Guest4705 [10:52] akik Ok [10:53] csharp2a: the syntax for dd is: dd if=ubuntu.iso of=/dev/sdX bs=1M [10:55] akik Thanks I will give it a go shortly [10:55] csharp2a: you'll get the storage device names with: lsblk -a -o +TRAN [10:55] if nouveau doesn't support offloading, then how can I render something on nvidia on an optimus laptop? I don't wanna use the proprietary driver from nvidia [10:58] csharp2a: oops sorry i forgot you don't have ubuntu yet :) [11:06] akik No worries. Its working now. I am not sure why but it was trying to run an autoinstall script and not succeeding. A new ISO fixed it. I am in and its happy. The ISO must have been borked. Thank you for all your help. [11:06] ok good [11:07] akik Have a great day! [11:07] csharp2a: btw [11:08] csharp2a: now that you're in the live session, try sudo -i and check /etc/sudoers or /etc/sudoers.d dir for the username defined for the passwordless sudo access [11:11] csharp2a: and check which username in /etc/shadow has no password [11:13] akik Ok I will do that [11:16] akik Oddly its is ubuntu [11:18] csharp2a: how did you create the usb stick when it didn't work? [11:18] etcher [11:18] akik Etcher [11:18] csharp2a: does it do dd write mode? [11:19] I do not know for sure. [11:19] csharp2a: i mean does it just write the image on the usb stick or if it opens it [11:19] I belive it just writes but not sure [11:19] ok well good that it now works [11:25] ciao ragazzi, ho bisogno del vostro consiglio, sto trasferendo da una nas synology ad una ssd interna al pc 350 gb di dati, ho fatto un semplice copia e incolla della cartella (smb) remota tramite dolphin [11:26] ora dolphin sta calcolando l'ammontare di file cartelle e relativa dimensione totale dei file da copiare [11:26] c'è un piccola provblema, indica al momento 15 TiB e continua a salire...che succede, è un bug? [11:26] sorry wrong channel [11:36] hi guys, i need your advice, i'm transferring 350 gb of data from a synology nas to a pc's internal ssd, i did a simple copy and paste of the remote (smb) folder via dolphin now dolphin is calculating the amount of files folders and relative total size of the files to be copied. there is a small problem, it indicates at the moment 15 TiB and it keeps going up... what's going on, is it a bug? [11:37] I don't know since when but I have no video support anymore, it broke somehow, there's no /dev/vid* [11:37] how to debug ? [11:37] dmesg shows: [11:37] [ 1.834207] ACPI: video: Video Device [GFX0] (multi-head: yes rom: no post: no) [11:37] [ 1.834261] input: Video Bus as /devices/LNXSYSTM:00/LNXSYBUS:00/PNP0A08:00/LNXVIDEO:00/input/input10 [11:40] v4l2-dbg -D # Failed to open /dev/video0: No such file or directory [11:42] sudo modprobe videodev # kernel: [ 570.372076] videodev: Linux video capture interface: v2.00 ; systemd-udevd[38821]: video4linux: Process '/usr/lib/snapd/snap-device-helper add snap_chromium_chromedriver /class/video4linux 0:0' failed with exit code 1. [11:42] how's snap related to kernel modules ? [11:45] i was just going to ask :) [11:46] but hey ubuntu packages curl into a snap... [11:50] why would curl not be part of a snap package? [11:50] it is a common tool [11:51] who's curl now related to all of this ? [11:51] none i guess [11:52] also, how's chromium related to video ? [11:52] I'm very confused about all of this [11:52] the very first thing I'd like to figure out is why I have no video device in /dev [11:52] is that normal ? (I don't think it is) [11:53] i dont have that [11:53] do you have a camera ? [11:53] not connected atm to be honest [11:53] ravage: there's no need to package a tool like curl into a snap [11:53] let me check that usb cable [11:53] thanks ravage [11:54] https://p.haxxors.com/4uwrsk3r.txt [11:55] thanks, that's what I'd expect [11:55] akik: that is not what you said. and it can be totally useful if you want to provide a newer/patched version [11:55] how about `journalctl | grep video` ? [11:56] ravage: but it's true. they package a newer version of curl into a snap [11:56] akik: link? [11:57] incidentally... can I escape snap at all with ubuntu or do I have to switch to a different distro ? [11:57] strk: https://p.haxxors.com/xldp6ge5.txt [11:58] ravage: https://paste.linux.chat/?e64e61cc1c82c45a#FVMeDqzpzRnCjL3oUeCRgyugnxBbpW4oDnP1zfpG7vHS [11:58] ravage: interesting, so it ALSO fail for you [11:58] but this doesnt' prevent your /dev/video from appearing [11:59] ravage it looks like discord, firefox, skype and teams failed to deal with the new video, can you check if any of them work with video ? [11:59] akik: ok, apt searches for exact matches of that package name. but it is not associated with canonical at all [12:01] strk: my camera works just fine in my skype snap [12:01] also works in firefox [12:01] i dont think snap is the problem here [12:02] evidently not [12:02] in my journalctl I also have: `kernel: videodev: Linux video capture interface: v2.00` [12:02] didn't see that in your output [12:02] I might be missing a kernel module [12:03] does `v4l2-dbg -D` work for you ? [12:03] ravage: i don't know what you mean? that command is from ubuntu. canonical creates ubuntu [12:03] possible. mine uses uvcvideo [12:03] akik: no that command is the result of an exact match search from the snap store [12:05] ravage: i ran curl in the shell and got that. you're trying to find reasons to prove me wrong [12:05] ravage: and failing pretty badly [12:05] i dont have to prove anything to you. isnt that neat? [12:06] ravage: so why did you start arguing? [12:06] well this is a chat room [12:06] and i did not prove anything. i just told you whats happening [12:07] ravage: it return two commands to install curl, one is snap the other is apt. what is not clear to you? [12:07] that is totally clear [12:07] and that is what i said [12:08] uhm, what about: lshw ravage ? how does your camera look in there ? [12:09] any match for "camera" or "video" ? I only have a "Video Bus", but no camera [12:09] * strk wonders if the laptop camera broke this morning [12:10] you should find your camera with some logical name being /dev/video [12:10] strk: does not show up there [12:10] uhm [12:10] ah damn [12:10] `lshw | grep video` what about this ? [12:10] give me a moment :P [12:11] grep -i maybe, if you want to also catch the bus, assuming you have a bus too [12:11] https://p.haxxors.com/5evekyaq.txt [12:12] interesting, so that camera is not in /dev/video but in /dev/input [12:12] oh, fun [12:13] Fn-F10 (the key has the icon of a camera) [12:13] all solved [12:13] yay! [12:13] and now `v4l2-dbg -D` shows it [12:13] and now I have /dev/video0 and /dev/video1 [12:13] yay! [12:13] i did not read the backlog so see we are talking about a laptop [12:14] and product: Chicony USB2.0 Camera: Chicony [12:14] *to see [12:14] I didn't mention upfront [12:14] we have that button problem here all the time [12:14] I recently switched to i3 and had this silly idea of keybinding that key to fix the monitor [12:14] and not only with cameras [12:15] so maybe I accidentally hit Fn instead of the "win" key :) [12:15] wifi, bluetooth :) [12:15] journalctl reports hitting tha tkey with: kernel: usb 2-7: USB disconnect, device number 5 [12:15] and: kernel: usb 2-7: new high-speed USB device number 6 using xhci_hcd [12:16] when you toggle [12:17] it's interesting that rebooting the machine does not reset that state [12:17] and also that all those errors about those clients do not affect functionality of them [12:17] ie: chromium (in a videomeeting) immediately saw the camera enabled [12:18] i have no idea where those settings are stored [12:18] i would think bios related somehow [12:18] and with battery backup maybe :D [12:18] this is a freebios laptop, btw [12:19] only replaced the bios of one chromebook so far [12:19] what is that? coreboot? [12:19] yes [12:19] but honestly I didn't really play with it much [12:19] not even sure I ever saw it :) [12:19] it came preinstalled (system76 machine) [12:20] i looked at some of the devices at fosdem [12:20] neat hardware [12:20] I'm a long time happy customer of system76. Only once I had a problem (hardware, and not happy to send the machine back) [12:21] but the customer service is pretty nice [12:21] too bad it's only ubuntu [12:21] well, popOS now [12:21] btw we do not really support popOS here if that is what you are running. does not matter with your button problem [12:22] just a general information for next time [12:22] I never know what I'm running :P [12:22] probably this one was before popOS [12:22] lsb_release -a tells me ubuntu 22.04 [12:22] Description: Ubuntu 22.04.2 LTS [12:22] thats totally fine then :) [12:23] I took the habit to search for "ubuntu" when I need some info about anything GNU/Linux related [12:23] as i said the button was an easy fix. but when it comes to kernel modules it can really make a difference [12:23] there's just much more info and usually it's associated with Ubuntu even if it's not strictly related :) [12:51] Hi all === Guest4705 is now known as Sauvin === shokohsc0 is now known as shokohsc === bad_1 is now known as badbodh [14:49] Why does ubuntu uptime shows 2 users? [14:50] hiya, mine only shows 1 user [14:50] JoeBk: Am I hacked? What is going on? [14:50] dunno [14:51] I'm trying to figure how to see a list of logged in users [14:52] JoeBk: try w ? [14:52] Ok do one thing [14:52] open a new tab, and do sudo -i and retry uptime [14:53] thanks that works [14:55] last -p now [14:56] I think the proper way is: last -p now [14:58] HI [14:59] can i have some help. i want to change the name of my home dir from to real name [15:01] webchat64, you homedir is specified in /etc/passwd [15:01] yes but if it just change it it will bake eveything [15:02] what if you rename your homedir [15:02] ? [15:02] JoeBk: So what do you get? two users now? When you open a new tab and 'sudo -i' ? [15:03] yeah uptime lies [15:03] trure can i do that safly when login the that user? [15:03] you should do that as root [15:04] exec sudo su - [15:04] should i do it from sudo in that account or a diffrunt account [15:04] do it in root account [15:04] exec sudo su - [15:05] that will put you in root account [15:05] sorry dont floower you have to be login to run sudo [15:06] yes you need to be logged in to an account with sudo priv [15:07] that command will log you out of what ever account you are in and put you in root account [15:07] it might be a good idea to backup yourn stuff first. [15:08] ok done [15:08] did it werk? [15:08] done exec sudo su - and it just put me in a root prumpted [15:08] you might want to create anoter account first in case you are unable to login. [15:09] oh so you say the thing i was asking u got it [15:09] what? [15:09] is it just [15:09] mv /home/ /home/ [15:09] usermod -d /home/ -m [15:10] should work [15:10] I'm not sure tho [15:10] I would have another account to log into in case it doesn't work. [15:11] is there any other place that mit have my dead name? [15:11] I dunno [15:11] I not a linux expert [15:11] hang around here there are some people who know. [15:13] hiya, there is a lot of interesting stuff at https://www.makeuseof.com/list-logged-in-users-on-linux/ [15:16] my daed name is in [15:16] JoeBk: Okay [15:32] https://i.imgur.com/cIRErjg.jpg [15:33] happy releaseday! [15:34] hello! I have a ASUS nvidia 1660 6 GB RAM DDR5, it will work with the latest Ubuntu 23.04? [15:37] is it LTS day? [15:41] no, it's ubuntu 23.04 released. [15:46] as pavlos said [15:46] rud0lf: was Thursday [15:46] i know :) [15:46] late greetings [15:46] Cake at LAS 2023 for Fedora 38 being released on Tuesday and Ubuntu 23.04 on Thursday [15:46] Apachez: next LTS is 24.04 in April 2024 [15:47] and next point release in June/July sometime [15:47] i always mix up those summer months [15:48] !discuss [15:48] Want to talk about Ubuntu, but don't have a support question? /join #ubuntu-discuss for non-support Ubuntu discussion, or try #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat. Thanks! [15:48] please leave the support channel free for support issues [15:51] SorinQ: Try it and report the results. [15:51] jhutchins, ok [15:51] SorinQ: Thanks! Every bit helps! [16:25] hi [16:27] i want to build wine: so i did 'apt build-dep wine; dpkg --add-architecture i386; apt update; apt build-dep -a i386 wine' to install the 32bit deps, but it failed: The following packages have unmet dependencies: builddeps:wine:i386 : Depends: fontforge-nox:i386 Depends: libxml-parser-perl:i386 but it is not going to be installed some more, how do i fix this? [16:28] Bombo: why dont you just install wine from the repos? [16:30] lotuspsychje: there is just the latest one, i need 4.0 to test === pah is now known as pa [16:47] newbie on chromebook, I think it is possible to install ubuntu on it, I think at least sounds sane idea [16:49] Jari--, it takes a lot of steps to make it install ready, with crouton or something like that [16:50] then it is not certain all hardware works. [16:51] https://ubuntu.com/tutorials/install-ubuntu-on-chromebook#1-overview [16:52] would that still work based on 16.04? [16:57] As xenial is EOL, crouton will (at some point) no longer have a default release. You will always have to specify -r. [16:57] (from their github) [17:10] luna_: tnx === shokohsc2 is now known as shokohsc === Rahoul1788 is now known as Rahoul178 [17:25] Are the snap servers down? I can't "snap refresh" [17:25] "cannot communicate with server" [17:25] "all snaps up to date" [17:26] quidnunc: works fine here [17:26] I'm in north america [17:27] https://status.snapcraft.io/ [17:27] nos signs of issues [17:27] c/no [17:34] hey guys, someone can help me? i installed the ubuntu in dual boot with windows, but when i start the pc he opens the ubuntu directly. I have the grub and i tried to update with the command "sudo update-grub", but doesnt work, ubuntu arent recognize the windows 10!! if i turn on the pc and choose the boot manually i can open the grub, but doesnt [17:34] recognize the windows too [17:35] LucasBR: use your bios boot menu to switch between booting windows and ubuntu [17:36] os-prober is disabled, for security reasons [17:36] tomreyn you think i cant fix the grub? [17:37] https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2021/12/grub-doesnt-detect-windows-linux-distros-fix [17:37] Ubuntu and Windows are installed differently, UEFI/Legacy BIOS mix [17:37] LucasBR: there's nothing that needs fixing, grub's not supposed to boot windows, the windows boot loader is [17:40] i had dual boot in another pc but other people configured for me, and i had a interface who had a wine color and in this interface i could choose between windows and ubuntu, someone knows this interface name? [17:40] tks oerheks i will see this link [17:46] I seem to remember that some genius disabled os_prober by default for "security reasons". [17:46] that is what i wrote some time ago [17:47] oerheks: Right. [17:48] tks oerheks and tomreyn , i did the tutorial in the link and after i used the command sudo update-grub and now he is reconizing the windowsss [17:48] have fun! [17:48] :) [17:48] LucasBR: Working as intended. [17:49] LucasBR: note i did not post this link or recommend this. ;) [17:50] its risky do this? [17:50] LucasBR: Not realistically. [17:50] the article gives the security reason; https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2021-December/041769.html [17:51] RedHat has an other solution, i like;" Red Hat only runs os-prober during install time" [17:51] If you follow the "security" paranoia far enough, the only solution is to remove ALL connections to the system, including power. [17:53] My Ubuntu 22.10 found the fake Windows Boot loader I left in UEFI [17:54] LucasBR: i'd always recommend to inform yourself and make decisions based on what you then understand instead of blindly following others' recommendations, including mine. ;) [17:57] hey JoeBk, did you sort out the installation / download issue? if so, how? [17:58] tomreyn, it just started working all by itself. I have no clue what was wrong. [18:00] JoeBk: hmm, okay, glad it works now. i assume it may have been networking related, still, even though i guess you have verizon ftth [18:01] I hate verizon [18:01] this wifi situation sucks [18:01] tomreyn: i understand bro, i will learn about and make a decision! tks all for the help! [18:02] JoeBk: feel free to complain in #ubuntu-offtopic [18:02] I'm like 15 feet from the router and I get a weakk signal. [18:02] can you maybe just disable wifi on that thing and get your own router? [18:03] too expensive [18:04] I should call verizon and see how much they want to install it. [18:04] a wifi access point i mean [18:04] they are not that expensive [18:05]