| Eickmeyer | Just need to manually add a swap partition or swap file. | 00:00 |
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| Eickmeyer | If you need it. | 00:00 |
| === NotEickmeyer is now known as Eickmeyer | ||
| OvenWerks | Eickmeyer: after a few firefox OOM crashes... | 01:07 |
| Eickmeyer | Yeah, that's a good reason. | 01:08 |
| * OvenWerks opens too many tabs at a time | 01:08 | |
| OvenWerks | Eickmeyer: I am guessing that sleep no longer uses swap? | 01:08 |
| OvenWerks | I had heard at one time it did | 01:09 |
| Eickmeyer | Sleep doesn't use swap. Hibernate did. | 01:09 |
| * OvenWerks doesn't know the difference | 01:09 | |
| Eickmeyer | Hibernate saves RAM to disk. | 01:09 |
| Eickmeyer | Sleep just keeps RAM running. | 01:09 |
| OvenWerks | untill I got the laptop, I had it set to never sleep or hibernate | 01:10 |
| OvenWerks | So sleep uses power and hibernate does not. | 01:10 |
| Eickmeyer | In order to hibernate, you must have exactly as much swap as RAM or more. | 01:10 |
| Eickmeyer | Correct. | 01:10 |
| * OvenWerks tries to thin k if that is useful.. | 01:11 | |
| Eickmeyer | Just makes it so that you don't have to shut down all of your applications if you have them running, makes boot faster. | 01:11 |
| Eickmeyer | That said, I think Ubuntu has hibernate disabled and it's a pain to enable even with equivalent swap/RAM. | 01:12 |
| Eickmeyer | I don't use it, honestly. | 01:12 |
| OvenWerks | yeah, I started doing a shutdown to save batteries during travel... it took so long to shut down (thankyou snap which for some reason can keep shutdown suspended forever) | 01:13 |
| Eickmeyer | Hmmm... most recent versions of snapd are supposed to have that fixed. | 01:14 |
| OvenWerks | I ended up thinking was shutdown, closed the lid which confused it to bits and arived at the other end with a quite warm machiine. | 01:14 |
| OvenWerks | I had to hold the power button long enough to kill it to get it to do anything | 01:14 |
| OvenWerks | fixed how long ago? | 01:15 |
| Eickmeyer | Month or so. You might try running "sudo snap refresh" to see if everything is updated. | 01:15 |
| OvenWerks | Ug, anothhert pop up that says firefox will update in 13 daysbut no way to update it (with a button click) | 01:16 |
| Eickmeyer | That's supposed to be fixed with the most recent snapd (fixed this past week) | 01:17 |
| Eickmeyer | Quit firefox, "sudo snap refresh", open firefox. | 01:18 |
| OvenWerks | so I guess it will fix itself in 13 days ... | 01:18 |
| Eickmeyer | Nope. Don't wait that long. | 01:18 |
| OvenWerks | sudo snap refresh | 01:18 |
| OvenWerks | [sudo] password for len: | 01:18 |
| OvenWerks | All snaps up to date. | 01:18 |
| Eickmeyer | Is firefox really closed? | 01:18 |
| Eickmeyer | Like, process exited? | 01:18 |
| OvenWerks | ah, it is doing something this time | 01:19 |
| * OvenWerks hopes he doesn't loose his settings this time | 01:20 | |
| Eickmeyer | Shouldn't. Settings are in your home directory, the snap is in /var/snaps | 01:20 |
| OvenWerks | going from 22.10 to 23.04 did | 01:21 |
| OvenWerks | Anyway. it seems my settings/bookmarks are still there | 01:21 |
| Eickmeyer | Yeah, I know, but that seems more like a weird glitch than anything. | 01:21 |
| OvenWerks | so I should try shutting down some time and see if it shuts down quick. The idea that there should be a delayed shutdown doesn't make sense. Generally people do a shutdown cause they need to go... now not sometime soon. | 01:24 |
| OvenWerks | Anyway. I am thinking to nuc the windows partition because I have to reset the bios just to use it and the only think not working is the camera. It seems the camera used to work when there was a camera on/off switch (same module) but it doesn't any more because the button to turn it on is no longer there | 01:27 |
| Eickmeyer | Right. I think that's more of a systemd thing than anything where it's trying to stop daemons and it's getting hung confirming something is stopping because it's not coming back stoped. | 01:27 |
| OvenWerks | There must be some way of sending the HW a signal to turn on but it is not important enough to me (my wife would like it :) to worry. Apparently windows has a softswitch to turn it on... a privacy thing. | 01:28 |
| OvenWerks | so I should have room for a swap. | 01:29 |
| * OvenWerks notes that the module for the camera does load, so it is detected. | 01:32 | |
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