[00:00] Just need to manually add a swap partition or swap file. [00:00] If you need it. === NotEickmeyer is now known as Eickmeyer [01:07] Eickmeyer: after a few firefox OOM crashes... [01:08] Yeah, that's a good reason. [01:08] * OvenWerks opens too many tabs at a time [01:08] Eickmeyer: I am guessing that sleep no longer uses swap? [01:09] I had heard at one time it did [01:09] Sleep doesn't use swap. Hibernate did. [01:09] * OvenWerks doesn't know the difference [01:09] Hibernate saves RAM to disk. [01:09] Sleep just keeps RAM running. [01:10] untill I got the laptop, I had it set to never sleep or hibernate [01:10] So sleep uses power and hibernate does not. [01:10] In order to hibernate, you must have exactly as much swap as RAM or more. [01:10] Correct. [01:11] * OvenWerks tries to thin k if that is useful.. [01:11] Just makes it so that you don't have to shut down all of your applications if you have them running, makes boot faster. [01:12] That said, I think Ubuntu has hibernate disabled and it's a pain to enable even with equivalent swap/RAM. [01:12] I don't use it, honestly. [01:13] yeah, I started doing a shutdown to save batteries during travel... it took so long to shut down (thankyou snap which for some reason can keep shutdown suspended forever) [01:14] Hmmm... most recent versions of snapd are supposed to have that fixed. [01:14] I ended up thinking was shutdown, closed the lid which confused it to bits and arived at the other end with a quite warm machiine. [01:14] I had to hold the power button long enough to kill it to get it to do anything [01:15] fixed how long ago? [01:15] Month or so. You might try running "sudo snap refresh" to see if everything is updated. [01:16] Ug, anothhert pop up that says firefox will update in 13 daysbut no way to update it (with a button click) [01:17] That's supposed to be fixed with the most recent snapd (fixed this past week) [01:18] Quit firefox, "sudo snap refresh", open firefox. [01:18] so I guess it will fix itself in 13 days ... [01:18] Nope. Don't wait that long. [01:18] sudo snap refresh [01:18] [sudo] password for len: [01:18] All snaps up to date. [01:18] Is firefox really closed? [01:18] Like, process exited? [01:19] ah, it is doing something this time [01:20] * OvenWerks hopes he doesn't loose his settings this time [01:20] Shouldn't. Settings are in your home directory, the snap is in /var/snaps [01:21] going from 22.10 to 23.04 did [01:21] Anyway. it seems my settings/bookmarks are still there [01:21] Yeah, I know, but that seems more like a weird glitch than anything. [01:24] so I should try shutting down some time and see if it shuts down quick. The idea that there should be a delayed shutdown doesn't make sense. Generally people do a shutdown cause they need to go... now not sometime soon. [01:27] Anyway. I am thinking to nuc the windows partition because I have to reset the bios just to use it and the only think not working is the camera. It seems the camera used to work when there was a camera on/off switch (same module) but it doesn't any more because the button to turn it on is no longer there [01:27] Right. I think that's more of a systemd thing than anything where it's trying to stop daemons and it's getting hung confirming something is stopping because it's not coming back stoped. [01:28] There must be some way of sending the HW a signal to turn on but it is not important enough to me (my wife would like it :) to worry. Apparently windows has a softswitch to turn it on... a privacy thing. [01:29] so I should have room for a swap. [01:32] * OvenWerks notes that the module for the camera does load, so it is detected.