[02:14] good morning === guiverc2 is now known as guiverc [07:10] I think it should be the responsibility of the software authors to provide stable versions and beta versions, not the responsibility of the distro; so the distro should have the most recent stable version which will make it up to date and stable too; right? [08:30] ice9: the distros that now have snap are a mix of non-lts and lts versions with snaps that are latest up to date [08:31] so we live in an age of a mix of stability [08:31] i also think the !latest factoid needs a rethink [08:31] !latest [08:31] Packages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports, !sru, and !ppa. [09:37] !grub [09:37] GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 [09:38] there seems to be a more up to date grub2 wiki here; [09:38] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Setup [09:40] let me know your thoughts, looks useful to me, didnt find a discourse docu on grub [18:11] https://www.phoronix.com/news/Linux-6.4-Networking [20:19] wondering when archive sync starts again [22:03] UWN: Issue785 now available to our reading public: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue785 :D