[17:52] <guitarman> a recent update seems to have borked the pulse audio bridge to jack
[17:52] <guitarman> on my setup
[17:52] <guitarman> ubuntu studio 22.04
[17:52] <guitarman> I have onbaord sound but use a usb audio device... 
[17:53] <guitarman> jack works, ardour works, but i can't playback youtube for instance.
[17:53] <guitarman> and the audio applet icons are greyed out with slashes through them in the tray
[17:53] <Eickmeyer> guitarman: Check your patching and your setup in studio-controls.
[17:53] <guitarman> I'm in studio controls
[17:53] <Eickmeyer> Check your patching in carla.
[17:53] <guitarman> the extra devices  keeps resetting back to the onboard sound
[17:54] <guitarman> looking in carla
[17:54] <guitarman> systeme captures go into pulse in front left.  pulse out goies to system playback
[17:54] <Eickmeyer> Is JACK running?
[17:55] <guitarman> yes jack is running
[17:55] <Eickmeyer> Stop JACK, restart it.
[17:59] <guitarman> didn't rectify the situtaion
[18:01] <Eickmeyer> You might have to redo your studio-controls settings, there was a version update in the official backports channel, but it should've been seamless. Stop JACK. Open a terminal window, type 'rm -rf .config/autojack'. Reboot. Open Studio Controls and redo your config.
[18:03] <Eickmeyer> For 99% of users, it's seamless, you seem to have fallen through the cracks.
[18:10] <guitarman> ok i will try that
[18:11] <guitarman> fingers crossed
[18:17] <guitarman> rebooting now. back in a bit
[18:22] <guitarman> uh oh, now all audio is pooched - no jack playback even though it's running... looking in carla for connections
[18:32] <Eickmeyer> Yeah, you'll have to redo your entire config and setup. Basically you're having to start from scratch.
[18:32] <guitarman> I redid the config and i've got no audio in pulse and jack
[18:33] <Eickmeyer> Are you sure pulse is set to the right place in pavucontrol?
[18:34] <guitarman> checking
[18:34] <Eickmeyer> And that everything is good in qasmixer?
[18:36] <guitarman> it keeps muting for some reason
[18:36] <Eickmeyer> That doesn't seem normal.
[18:36] <guitarman> i unmute qasmixer , then hit play and it mutes the applet again
[18:37] <Eickmeyer> I wouldn't know the first step in how to fix that. (pinging OvenWerks)
[18:41] <guitarman>   it seems in the kde audio playback devices secion i unmuted jack sink and it seems to play.. i'm going to reboot to see if that sticks or if it resets every boot
[18:41] <guitarman> I have playback on jack and pulse to jack.  rebooting
[18:47] <guitarman>  reboot and no jack audio or pulse
[18:50] <Eickmeyer> Ok, so sounds like you've run into a very well-known ALSA bug where ALSA settings don't persist between reboots. Affects some people, doesn't affect others. No clue why.
[18:50] <Eickmeyer> It's also intermittenet.
[18:50] <guitarman> welll crap.  is there a workaround - is it a problem with usb audio devices in alsa?
[18:51] <guitarman> this used to work flawlessly a few updates ago
[18:51] <guitarman> btw
[18:51] <Eickmeyer> Stop JACK, go into pavucontrol, make sure your volumes and everything are up.
[18:51] <guitarman> this is a newish problem
[18:51] <Eickmeyer> What this does is forces pulseaudio to handle it as opposed to ALSA.
[18:52] <Eickmeyer> Then start JACK, make sure your routing is good, and it should work.
[18:53] <Eickmeyer> Before starting JACK, make sure your audio profiles are set the way they need to be for your particular device in pavuctonrol.
[18:54] <guitarman> pulse was working, just started jack
[18:55] <guitarman> hmmm that seems to work for now but i imagine it will undo itself every reboot?
[18:55] <Eickmeyer> Right, I was talking purely from a device standpoint to get levels up.
[18:55] <guitarman> the things were muted btw
[18:55] <Eickmeyer> It shouldn't, but keep an eye on it.
[18:56] <guitarman> i'll reboot and try again... this is also the computer i use for zoom and google meet etc so i need the usb audio device to work to do audio and use my mic
[18:56] <guitarman> need it to be reliable. biab seeing if this fixed it or if it resets again
[18:56] <guitarman> back in a few
[18:56] <guitarman> btw thank you Eickmeyer for your help, i'd never have gotten this working again without it.
[19:10] <guitarman> Eickmeyer: it works on reboot!@!!
[19:10] <guitarman> thank you!
[19:10] <guitarman> is this a bug that others have encountered before?
[19:10] <Eickmeyer> guitarman: You're welcome.
[19:10] <Eickmeyer> guitarman: I think so with ALSA, pulseaudio is the workaround.