[00:48] <idris> hi, how can I enable DisplayLink on 22.04.2, already installed displaylink-driver from synaptic but lsusb doesn't list any displaylink devices...
[00:50] <idris> https://www.synaptics.com/products/displaylink-graphics/downloads/ubuntu
[00:53] <l88l> hi all could you help me please see pastebin https://pastebin.com/RGqxfF1y
[00:53] <l88l> re bios uefi
[00:54] <l88l> installation and partitoning for a board with bios only and wanting the correct part table (mbr gpt)
[00:58] <tomreyn> idris: i recommend reading the overview on top of https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/DisplayLink (while this is for arch linux, any more generic statements will also apply to ubuntu)
[01:00] <tomreyn> l88l: i recommend against your approach of installing 4 linux distros on a single disk, as bare metal bootable. there is most likely no actual use case for that, and it involves complexities you probably don't need to expose yourself to.
[01:01] <tomreyn> l88l: if this is a persnoal desktop / laptop / daily driver computer, then choose one distro, and use containers or virtualization to run the others,
[01:03] <tomreyn> if you still think you have a use case for booting 4 linux distros from bare metal, shall we discuss it?
[01:05] <tomreyn> this mainboard is really old, you'll be able to dave a lot of energy if you'll use a more recent one.
[01:06] <tomreyn> *save, not dave :)
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[01:10] <l88l> sorry pc crashed
[01:13] <tomreyn> l88l: https://dpaste.org/kU2QV
[01:14] <l88l> tomreyn, ty do you have a better idea (main os bare-metal other os on vm qemu etcetera
[01:14] <tomreyn> l88l: i still don't know your use case. why do you need multiple linux distros?
[01:15] <tomreyn> i'm asking because recommending a suitable alterantive approach is really difficult without knowing that
[01:16] <l88l> i like to take have one os i can use most days windows server and desktop for skool lab work and other partitions for testing the water(see what its all about:testdrive distro)
[01:16] <l88l> so i mess with Ubuntu or MXlinux most days
[01:16] <l88l> and use the rest on a vm perhaps?
[01:17] <tomreyn> sounds like a perfect use case for containers / VMs to me.
[01:17] <l88l> can i containerize an OS or just a service
[01:17] <tomreyn> still, you may want newer hardware
[01:17] <l88l> lol i do
[01:18]  * l88l laughs endlessly
[01:18] <tomreyn> you can containerize linux on linux
[01:18] <l88l> whats proxmox is it containerization
[01:18] <l88l> manager
[01:19] <l88l> *a containerization manager?
[01:19] <tomreyn> i think VMs only, but not sure. it's not part of ubuntu
[01:19] <l88l> all g reading google
[01:20] <tomreyn> actually proxmox seems to support LXC
[01:21] <tomreyn> so i guess it supports either
[01:21] <tomreyn> but you could also use LXC or LXD directly on ubuntu
[01:21] <tomreyn> or KVM for virtualization
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[01:22] <l88l> got you, is proxmox a linux thing being foss or more aimed at sysadmins using windows?
[01:23] <l88l> saw it on a video youtube, dont know much more about it other than what im scan reading while talking to you
[01:23] <tomreyn> that's really beyond the scope of this channel, so i'll need to refer you to !alis, #linux and a web search.
[01:24] <tomreyn> !alis
[01:24] <ubottu> Alis is an IRC service to help you find channels. For help on using it, see «/msg Alis help list» or ask in #libera - Example usage: «/msg Alis list http»
[01:24] <l88l> fair point sorry will keep on topic
[01:50] <Manikariza> Learn all about Mickey Mouse getting his ass arrested on the Chris Hansen show for trying to hook up with a 13 y/o boy online!  Those Disney pervs will stop at nothing!  Read all about it here!  Mickey Mouse busted trying to diddle a little boy! https://pastebin.com/edvNf8kn
[01:51] <leftyfb>  !op | Manikariza
[01:51] <ubottu> Manikariza: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - CarlFK, DJones, el, Flannel, genii, hggdh, ikonia, krytarik, mneptok, mwsb, nhandler, ogra, Pici, popey, sarnold, tomreyn, Unit193, wgrant
[01:52] <Manikariza> same as lefty
[02:04] <l88l> is it possible to install Ubuntu with out an efi partiton being automatically made for you-how(i have no UEFI and want to install grub to mbr)
[02:08] <l88l> how do i make a Ubuntu usb installer that i can boot in a non UEFI mode
[02:09] <l88l> some of what i've reads leads me to think that in spite of my system being mbr/bios only the usb installer can launch in either bios or uefi mode?
[02:09] <l88l> even on my system
[02:10] <l88l> am i getting confused(conflating of two separate un-related subjects)
[02:10] <rbox> huh?
[02:10] <rbox> what happens when you boot it
[02:10] <l88l> i know sound stupid to me also
[02:11] <l88l> so i have a pc that i boot and it has no uefi capabillity, how ever ubuntu when installed always makes an efi partiton
[02:11] <l88l> why
[02:11] <l88l> i have no uefi
[02:11] <l88l> so my make the partition
[02:11] <rbox> why does it matter if there is an efi partition?
[02:11] <rbox> does it not boot?
[02:12] <l88l> i thought the efi partition stores all the boot info for UEFI-hence it existence
[02:12] <l88l> i think im getting the old confused with the new
[02:12] <rbox> what?
[02:12] <l88l> efi and uefi
[02:12] <rbox> does your system boot
[02:12] <rbox> yes or no
[02:13] <l88l> it boots
[02:13] <rbox> and the problem is...
[02:13] <l88l> but i have a partiton that i beleive to be useless and don't know why installer created it, the efi parition
[02:13] <rbox> OMG
[02:13] <rbox> ITS USELESS!?
[02:13] <l88l> i thought my system being legacy bios would use first sector area for mbr
[02:14] <rbox> who says its not?
[02:14] <l88l> explain to me what assumptions of mine are wrong
[02:14] <l88l> trying to learn
[02:14] <l88l> me stupid you wise
[02:14] <rbox> the assumption that there is something wrong
[02:14] <l88l> ty
[02:17] <l88l> rbox system boots slow Ubuntu 22.04 how to fix
[02:17] <l88l> reason for my investigating grub efi uefi etc
[02:17] <rbox> systemd-analyze can show you slow t hings
[02:17] <l88l> goal install ubuntu boot fast not take over 3mins
[02:17] <l88l> tried that
[02:18] <l88l> seen output
[02:18] <l88l> all of a sudden two versions of LTS boot very slow, compared to prior releases
[02:19] <l88l> thought it may have to do with disk partion table format or booting mode(uefi vs mbr) even thought my motherboard cant support UEFI
[02:19] <jhutchins> Should we tell hime to install the "bootfaster" package?
[02:20] <l88l> is that in AUR
[02:20] <rbox> l88l: oce the kernel loads, how it was loaded is irrelvent
[02:20] <jhutchins> l88l: There are systemd tools that will show you what services are delaying the boot process.
[02:21] <jhutchins> l88l: As distributed, the system is a compromise among several properties - speed being one of them.  Size and reliability are others.
[02:22] <jhutchins> I do know a guy who built his own init system.  It was a little bit faster than the SysV of the time.
[02:22] <l88l> i get it gnome is fully prepared and loads servcies to make stuff open quickly-there is a cost
[02:22] <l88l> mx linux
[02:22] <l88l> uses it
[02:23] <l88l> works so fast on this old hardware
[02:23] <EriC^^> l88l: lately ubuntu just creates efi partition, installer has gotten "let's throw things at the wall and see what sticks" kind of attitude
[02:23] <l88l> but ubuntu has slowed down in recent releases for my hardware
[02:23] <l88l> ty EriC^^
[02:23] <EriC^^> l88l: did you try the systemd analyzer and the 'blame' option to see what's taking time while booting?
[02:24] <l88l> yes
[02:24] <jhutchins> l88l: Seriously, investigating what's slowing down your boot process is going to get you a lot farther than complaining here.
[02:24] <l88l> jhutchins, go home mate
[02:24] <l88l> thanks Eric
[02:24] <l88l> and others
[02:24] <EriC^^> can you share the output of both?
[02:24] <jhutchins> l88l: I would imagine that if it's not a problem specific to your hardware there are articles on speeding it up.
[02:24] <l88l> i will
[02:25] <EriC^^> l88l: also the boot process in /var/log/syslog might shed some light
[02:26] <l88l> what would you suggest i grep from /var/log/syslog
[02:28] <l88l> gonna install again and share it then
[02:28] <l88l> running other os atm
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[04:21] <wontfix[m]> The Ubuntu brand resource website at https://design.ubuntu.com/resources doesn't actually contain the post-2022 logo for just Ubuntu. The logo is located as a clickable logo on the previous page at https://design.ubuntu.com/brand  in order to get to the resources page that is missing that logo. This is extremely confusing.
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[08:12] <weedmic> cheers!  what does " ." do in this command:  "nautilus ."?
[08:17] <ogra> weedmic, . points to the dir you are currently in in your terminal ... so "nautilus ." will open a file manager window in that dir
[08:32] <weedmic> i saw it was like dolphin - i was looking for the equivalent of the software manager like muon in kubuntu - do u know what that is?
[08:39] <akik> weedmic: maybe plasma-discover
[08:39] <akik> weedmic: or do you mean for installed packages?
[08:41] <akik> weedmic: aptitude is one but it might be only for the terminal
[08:50] <weedmic> yast software manager or muon package manager are guis that let you search for a package and tells you if it is installed, whether you want it to be blocked from updating, or whether it is available to be installed.  i shall check aptitude as that sounds familiar.
[09:12] <ogra> weedmic, perhaps the people in #kubuntu know more 😉
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[10:35] <uf> third time's a charm. i have two LXC where one is fine and the other isn't. i can't apt upgrade it because of a wrong systemd version or something. i forcefully removed systemd and then installed, but it fails to install https://dpaste.org/NOhhu/raw
[10:36] <uf> the only difference i can see between the LXCs is that one has /var/cache/man owned by root:man and the other nobody:nogroup
[10:36] <uf> and apparently i cant even change that for some reason because chown: changing ownership of '/var/cache/man': Operation not permitted
[10:37] <ogra> smells liks your password and group database is messed up in the one that has nobody:nogroup ...
[10:37] <ogra> *like
[10:38] <uf> i guess that's possible. what's the right way to fix this?
[10:41] <ogra> there is no easy way in case the files are corrupt or missing since debs create system users dynamically, that means the UID/GID is different on each system, depending on the order the packages were installed
[10:42] <ogra> so you can not just copy /etc/passwd or /etc/group from another system
[10:43] <ogra> (though it would be interesting to find out how you got into that situation in the first place)
[10:44] <uf> i've no idea, this lxc has ever only ran wireguard
[10:45] <uf> do i have no choice other than re-installing the system?
[10:51] <ogra> uf, re-creaing the container you mean ...
[10:51] <ogra> *creating
[10:51] <uf> and re-configuring wireguard (:
[10:58] <uf> comparing /etc/passwd and /etc/group between the good and bad lxc dont seem like there's any problems with them
[11:00] <ogra> then there might be something wrong with bits and pieces processing them perhaps ... some missing pam modules/libs for example
[11:06] <uf> can't i just let apt reinstall everything it can and see how it goes? i've a snapshot of the lxc so i don't really mind risking it
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[12:19] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[12:20] <Skiltonian> Don't let Micky Mouse diddle your little boy!  Mickey was busted by Chris Hansen on To Catch a Predator trying to buttscrew a 13 y/o boy in a sting operation!  Read all about it here:  https://pastebin.com/edvNf8kn   Ron Desantis 2024
[12:45] <Jym> I have something screwy going on with dns it seems. Running v18 LTS but now is seems DNS isn't always available in shell or even software update, but mostly is fine in a browser. No network changes have been made by me at least. everything works fine on my phone (to same wifi connection), so I'm guessing it's isolated to this laptop. but no clue
[12:45] <Jym> what.
[12:47] <Jym> ...Maybe not just DNS
[12:50] <Jym> When pinging www.ibm.com ---> 95 packets transmitted, 1 received, 98% packet loss, time 96197ms
[12:50] <Jym> But yet I'm here on irc using webchat
[13:09] <EriC^^> Jym: what happens if you ping 104.126.241.7
[13:10] <ravage> and just a general reminder that your Ubuntu version will reah end of support this month :)
[13:25] <mostafa> Hello can some one help me .. i can't find an app for see SMS and send and recieve SMS for D-Link USB Modem... I use it on windows .. but now in Ubuntu i don't know how using it. Thanks
[13:27] <ravage> mostafa: https://packages.ubuntu.com/jammy/smstools
[13:27] <lotuspsychje> mostafa: there is linphone on ubuntu, but not sure if can sms
[13:28] <lotuspsychje> !info linphone
[13:28] <ubottu> linphone (4.4.10-2build2, lunar): SIP softphone - graphical client (transitional package). In component universe, is optional. Built by linphone-desktop. Size 4 kB / 16 kB
[13:31] <mguy> How do I get more information from something like this:
[13:31] <mguy> dpkg: error processing package mediawiki (--configure):
[13:31] <mguy> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[13:35] <ogra> mguy, the actual error is usually above that ... read the whole output
[13:36] <Jym> EriC^^ Though I have connected to the irc server via webchat right now, this is what I get...  https://pastebin.com/raw/4cvhaTPT
[13:37] <Jym> s/have/am/
[13:38] <ravage> your network connection is almost broken
[13:38] <ravage> a tcp connection is just very resilient
[13:38] <ogra> wiggle the cable ?
[13:38] <Jym> ravage LMAO
[13:39] <ravage> humor in the face of tragedy is always good
[13:39] <Jym> ogra I wiggled the wifi connection, even added aluminum foil for better reception ;)
[13:39] <mguy> ogra:  installed mediawiki package post-installation script subprocess returned error exit status 1
[13:39] <ogra> mguy, even higher up 😉
[13:40] <mguy> ogra: nothing there..I can't access paste.ubuntu from here or I'd share
[13:41] <mguy> https://appp.me/33HYlq
[13:43] <ogra> hmm, yeah, there isnt a lot more ... i wonder if mediawikis postinst script simply sends all output to /dev/null by default or some such
[13:44] <mguy> Going to break this. Migrating but everything is  new version. mediawiki, the os, apache, php :D
[13:44] <mguy> Did a source install but it won't let you edit articles so I figure I'd try the one that came with Ubuntu 22
[13:45] <Jym> EriC^^   SMH, WTF...  https://pastebin.com/raw/SYpwebfv
[13:47] <Jym> Either the laptop, me, or both are on cheap drugs
[13:48] <lotuspsychje> mguy: ogra some older ubuntu bugs on it; https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mediawiki/+bugs?orderby=importance&start=0
[13:48] <ogra> yeah, there are a bunch
[13:48] <lotuspsychje> seems like a returning issue
[13:48] <mostafa> lotuspsychje: thanks
[13:49] <ogra> lotuspsychje, mguy looks like they are all failing on different issues though ... (when reading the DpkgTerminal log files attached to them)
[13:49] <Jym> https://youtu.be/LZmUfUBqE-s?t=21
[13:50] <ogra> mguy, lokk if you can find anyhing in /var/log/dpkg.log or /var/log/apt/term.log
[13:50] <ogra> *look
[13:50] <lotuspsychje> lemme try to install it on jammy
[13:51] <lotuspsychje> yep installs without errors here
[13:52] <ogra> all these bugs are somehow related to apache configs ... either missing php or even a broken apache config file that the postinst cn not parse
[13:52] <mguy> It just seems like there'd be a flag or something to get more output
[13:53] <ogra> well, theoretically i'd expect dpkg-log to have more detailed output
[13:53] <ogra> *dpkg.log
[13:53] <mguy> nothing there :(
[13:55] <ogra> well, you could look at the script itself and start guessing why it fails 🙂
[13:55] <ogra> should be /var/lib/dpkg/inf👋mediawiki.postinst
[13:56] <ogra> bah, excuse the rogue emoji plugin of my hexchat
[14:34] <mguy> apache2_invoke enconf $conf || exit 1
[14:34] <mguy> that's where it crashes
[14:34] <mguy> trying to run something like a2ensite mediawiki
[14:36] <lotuspsychje> mguy: this is what i got on my jammy install; apache2_invoke: Enable configuration mediawiki
[14:43] <mguy> lotuspsychje: did it put a mediawiki.conf in /etc/apache2/conf-available ?
[14:44] <mguy> apache2_invoke is a deb helper afaik
[15:05] <mguy> oddly enough if I hotwire the script it willl install, adn the apt remove script works fine
[15:05] <mguy> apache2_invoke prerm: Disable configuration mediawiki
[15:06] <lotuspsychje> mguy: i dont see a mediawiki.conf there no
[15:06] <lotuspsychje> but i already purged it
[15:07] <mguy> It's in /var/lib/dpkg/info/mediawiki.list
[15:07] <mguy> Alas I am not the biggest fan of mw. Thanks for the assistance!
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[15:45] <alumne_> ola?
[15:46] <alumne_> ola
[15:46] <alumne_> tranquilos
[15:46] <alumne> https://tetr.io/#WQSN
[15:50] <alumne> https://tetr.io/#WQSN
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[16:15] <Bella988> Any male for sexting? https://qrmybiz.com/amy
[16:16] <lotuspsychje> !ops | Bella988
[16:16] <ubottu> Bella988: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - CarlFK, DJones, el, Flannel, genii, hggdh, ikonia, krytarik, mneptok, mwsb, nhandler, ogra, Pici, popey, sarnold, tomreyn, Unit193, wgrant
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[16:52] <wontfix[m]> The Ubuntu Yaru theme repo has over 1500 files that are or are apart of duplicates. Generously assuming half are src files, over 750 that could benefit from inode caching.
[16:53] <lotuspsychje> wontfix[m]: do you have a question that comes a long with that?
[16:56] <wontfix[m]> Right. The question is for examples like this where multiple or split asset repos exist, where are PRs merged from?
[16:57] <wontfix[m]> There isn't any documentation on which parts of ubuntu use one  of or both gh / lp and which parts of which if both.
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[17:07] <ogra> wontfix[m], better try #ubuntu-devel or #ubuntu-desktop (probably the latter is better, i think they maintain the package)
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[17:07] <ogra> though note that canonicl is holding a development sprint this week, answers might be slow
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[18:08] <tekisui> kolourpaint seems to be out of alignment
[18:08] <tekisui> i tried to reinstal it but didn´t wolk
[18:14] <toni_> exit
[18:14] <toni_> exit
[18:25] <wontfix[m]> Didn't work.
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[18:44] <As4xk> Hi. Do you know the reason for why Ubuntu doesn't unmount and unlock the LUKS keystore holding the key for encrypted ZFS on root after zfs has loaded all the keys?
[18:45] <As4xk> you => anyone here*
[18:45] <tekisui> hello, am a newbie also
[18:46] <tekisui> maybe you can kill the program ?
[18:46] <tekisui> ¨task manager¨
[18:47] <tekisui> https://youtu.be/ODV6mxVVRZk
[18:47] <tekisui> good luck !
[18:47] <tekisui> ceau
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[19:15] <jacked> Update: Ubuntu 2204 is  killer
[19:16] <oerheks> !yay
[19:16] <ubottu> Glad you made it! :-)
[19:16] <jacked> Totally impressed.
[19:17] <jacked> Ubuntu/Mate
[19:18] <jacked> Any way, just wanted to stop in and say.. thanks.. have a super day.
[19:33] <tomreyn> As4xk: i didn't even know that encrypted ZFS uses LUKS for storing the encryption keys, are you sure about this?
[19:34] <hms_rorqual> Hi everybody, Hi tomreyn
[19:34] <tomreyn> hi hms_rorqual
[19:35] <hms_rorqual> tomreyn sorry for interruption last time, I had any connection problem here and couldn't go back earlier. Even have to read about your mention related to zfs issues - bug 1993318
[19:35] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Bug 1993318 in zfs-linux (Ubuntu) "ZFS + Encryption installations of Ubuntu Desktop do not come up correctly on first boot, systemd unmounts many of the zfs volumes" [Undecided, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1993318
[19:36] <tomreyn> As4xk should also read this ^ if relevant to them
[19:36] <tomreyn> hms_rorqual: no worries
[19:38] <hms_rorqual> Please tomreyn, I'mm seeing here about this bug you've mentioned. Apparently it's not fixed yet. Is that the case ?
[19:39] <hms_rorqual> zfs-linux (confirmed, but not fixed ?)
[19:39] <tomreyn> hms_rorqual: it still affects zfs-linux according to the bug's status, that's right
[19:40] <tomreyn> see also the other report i linked there, bug 1970066
[19:40] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Bug 1970066 in snapd (Ubuntu Jammy) "(Encrypted) ZFS breaks 22.04 installation" [Critical, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1970066
[19:40] <hms_rorqual> So, it's noy being secure using ZFS in Ubuntu yet.
[19:41] <tomreyn> that's an overly generic statement i would not agree with
[19:41] <hms_rorqual> Oh no ! Worse than I've imagined - Encrypted) ZFS breaks 22.04 installation
[19:41] <hms_rorqual> :(
[19:42] <tomreyn> both bug reports are about *encrypted* zfs only, and i assume (not sure there) they only apply to encrypted zfs on /
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[19:43] <tomreyn> so if you just want 'plain' zfs, or 'plain' zfs on top of a luks layer, they don'T apply.
[19:44] <hms_rorqual> I see. Do you use ZFS in your Ubuntu ?
[19:45] <hms_rorqual> If 'yes' haven't you being experiencing any serious issues related to it ?
[19:48] <tomreyn> hms_rorqual: i do not, i know of others who use it regularly with different ubuntu releases for non system file system without issues.
[19:48] <As4xk> tomreyn: zfs get keylocation: "rpool  keylocation  file:///run/keystore/rpool/system.key  local". And mount lists "/dev/mapper/keystore-rpool on /run/keystore/rpool .....". And cryptsetup status keystore-rpool sais "type:    LUKS2". So yes, quite sure Ubuntu stores the key on LUKS
[19:49] <hms_rorqual> Fine tomreyn, thanks for attention and information provided :)
[19:49] <tomreyn> As4xk: interesting, thanks for sharing.
[19:49] <As4xk> 22.04
[19:50] <tomreyn> As4xk: so that's just a 1 to 10 MB LUKS device or something?
[19:51] <tomreyn> (i assume "cryptsetup status keystore-rpool" might say.)
[19:55] <As4xk> It's a 500MB zvol. Not sure how big the LUKS volume is, but I guess it's the same (approx).
[19:55] <As4xk> So rpool has an unencrypted zvol with luks
[19:57] <As4xk> But I don't understand why Ubuntu doesn't close it after loading zfs keys. Would have guess that ssecurity-wize that would be good to do.
[20:10] <tomd> evening
[20:11] <tomd> I've been looking at a way for me to create an ubuntu install on a usb, so that when I plug it in it automatically installs. Is this possible or will there always have to be some kind of user interaction?
[20:13] <tomd> I've been using this - https://github.com/covertsh/ubuntu-autoinstall-generator with some modifications for jammy, but every time it doesn't seem to use the user-data file
[20:13] <jhutchins>  tomd: It may be possible under Windows.  Linux should be sercure against that type of hijacking.
[20:14] <tomd> I'm just looking for an easy way of putting a base installation onto my hardware, which doesn't require me to plug in a keyboard or mouse
[20:15] <tomd> e.g. buy pc, plug in usb, dhcp gives it an address, i provide it with a default username/password, then use ansible to configure it.
[20:16] <tomd> I may have to go down the PXE route, I just would rather do it via USB.
[20:17] <jhutchins> tomd: If the system is set up to boot first to the USB drive it could work.  If there's no OS on the system and it's set to include the USB in the boot searech path it could work.
[20:18] <tomd> jhutchins - sure , but I can't find a way of making it work, i'm wondering if others had any experience?
[20:18] <jhutchins> I have used the latter scenario to install systems.  I've more often seen uninstalled systems try netboot.
[20:20] <tomd> OK I guess not many people using usb installation then
[20:22] <tomreyn> As4xk: no idea, maybe it's worth bringing it up in a bug report / feature request
[20:22] <tomreyn> could be just an oversight
[20:23] <tomreyn> surely the key will still need to be store din memory somewhere, probably in the kernel key store.
[20:35] <jhutchins> tomreyn: I think a lot of people use them, and I haven't seen a bios that wouldn't boot to USB for quite a while.  My experience was in the late 2000s and CDs were much more common.
[20:36] <jhutchins> I did have CDs that would install a custom version of a Linux OS if you booted from them - but one of the above conditions had to be true.
[20:37] <tomreyn> jhutchins: a lot fo people use what?
[20:37] <tomreyn> *of
[20:38] <jhutchins> tomreyn: OOps. Target left the channel.
[20:38] <jhutchins> A lot of people build from bootable USBs.
[20:38] <tomreyn> oh you meant to address tomd
[20:38] <jhutchins> tomreyn: Right.
[20:38] <jhutchins> tomreyn: Tab completion is a lot like autocorrect.
[20:39] <tomreyn> works/most/ of the time. ;)
[20:39] <jhutchins> +
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[21:07] <skarp> claiming latest NVIDIA drivers but not
[22:41] <Guest934567> Hello, I try to install CUDA on Ubuntu but have problem: https://pastebin.com/Y3P9cWFk
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[23:00] <EriC^^> Guest934567: what package are you trying to install?
[23:00] <Guest934567> EriC^^ sudo apt-get -y install cuda
[23:02] <EriC^^> Guest934567: type 'apt-cache policy cuda | nc termbin.com 9999' and paste the result here
[23:04] <oerheks> run proper updates first, sudo apt update && sudo apt dist-upgrade
[23:04] <Guest934567> EriC^^ https://termbin.com/ctcyj
[23:05] <Guest934567> oerheks if you are referring to me, yes, I am diligent with updates prior to installs.
[23:06] <Guest934567> Cuda was fine before and some update happens and it broke, so I tried to reinstall
[23:07] <Guest934567> The video programs said CUDA is not available, so that is how I knew it broke.
[23:07] <Guest934567> By video programs, I mean editing
[23:08] <EriC^^> which ubuntu are you using?
[23:08] <EriC^^> type "cat /etc/issue"
[23:09] <Guest934567> EriC^^ Ubuntu 22.04.2 LTS
[23:09] <Guest934567> not lsb_release -a
[23:09] <Guest934567> ?
[23:10] <EriC^^> ok type "apt-cache show cuda | nc termbin.com 9999"
[23:10] <EriC^^> same thing
[23:10] <Guest934567> https://termbin.com/08bl
[23:12] <EriC^^> and "apt-cache show cuda-12-1 | nc termbin.com 9999"
[23:13] <Guest934567> EriC^^  https://termbin.com/t2a3
[23:14] <oerheks> Apparently nvidia's cuda ppa does not supply the i386 versions of them?
[23:15] <Guest934567> oerheks Heck, it was not a problem before. I can purge if needed, just tell me what to purge
[23:15] <Guest934567> I thought getting rid of WINE would help
[23:15] <Guest934567> guess not
[23:17] <oerheks> reverse add archtecture i386, dpkg --remove-architecture i386
[23:17] <oerheks> maybe remove packages first, https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/696517/cannot-remove-architecture-i386
[23:18] <EriC^^> Guest934567: what does "apt-cache policy libnvidia-compute-530 | nc termbin.com 9999" give?
[23:18] <EriC^^> !info libnvidia-compute-530 focal
[23:18] <ubottu> libnvidia-compute-530 (530.41.03-0ubuntu0.20.04.2, focal): NVIDIA libcompute package. In component restricted, is optional. Built by nvidia-graphics-drivers-530. Size 49,433 kB / 225,116 kB. (Only available for i386, amd64.)
[23:19] <EriC^^> Guest934567: it looks like the nvidia repo package expects 530.30.02 , but in 22.04 the version is now 530.41.03
[23:19] <Guest934567> EriC^^ https://termbin.com/zkmq
[23:19] <EriC^^> so there's your problem
[23:20] <Guest934567> EriC^^ What do you think is best course of action?
[23:21] <EriC^^> well, i think it's on nvidia to fix the issue, but if you need some temporary solution, see how many packages were updated in that update and roll them back til they fix it
[23:21] <Guest934567> ugh
[23:22] <Guest934567> Linus Torvalds "Nvidea, F--- you"
[23:22] <EriC^^> Guest934567: what does "grep -C10 "libnvidia-compute-530" /var/log/apt/history.log | nc termbin.com 9999" give?
[23:22] <Guest934567> EriC^^ Thanks for your help though
[23:22] <EriC^^> no problem
[23:23] <Guest934567> EriC^^ Nothing, just an empty line
[23:24] <EriC^^> odd
[23:25] <EriC^^> do you want to roll it back?
[23:25] <Guest934567> EriC^^ What am I rolling back, the distro or driver?
[23:25] <EriC^^> libnvidia-compute-530
[23:25] <jhutchins> The '| nc termbin 9999" trick doesn't show the user anything, al the output goes to termbin.
[23:26] <jhutchins> I guess it should return the URL.
[23:26] <Guest934567> EriC^^ Sure, if it will work and get my video editing programs going
[23:26] <Guest934567> I am not a fan of editing on Windows
[23:27] <Guest934567> Linux is wayyyyy more stable
[23:27] <Guest934567> Except when this happens. But crashes are rare on Linux, Windows, it is par for the course
[23:32] <EriC^^> Guest934567: thinking more about it i think it would be very messy to roll it back, given so many other packages also depend on it
[23:32] <Guest934567> EriC^^ So I guess just bug nvidea, keep yelling 'F--- you!!!'
[23:33] <EriC^^> yup
[23:33] <Guest934567> Proprietary crap
[23:34] <EriC^^> i'll throw out there this messy hack though, just for the hell of it, you could change the depends line in the packages files so the other packages install thinking the old compute-530 was there
[23:34] <Guest934567> if only graphics drive can be Stallmanized for pro video
[23:34] <EriC^^> but if they dont work with the new one for some reason i guess it would bug out etc
[23:34] <Guest934567> yeah, I guess I will have to use Windows for now
[23:34] <EriC^^> probably best to wait i guess
[23:35] <Guest934567> I used AMD graphics and they are just as bad
[23:37] <EriC^^> yup not much support on linux sometimes