[00:07] Hello I want to install something heavy but I don't want to pollute the global workspace what is the best way to create some kind of virtual thin layer so that I can expriment freely without having applications installed as root [00:09] Guest28: the two options that i know of are chroot or a vm [00:12] hello [00:13] since my update from 18.04 to 20 and beyond [00:13] nvidia doesn´t remember the screen setting anymore when i try to lower it. [00:15] tekisui: Which release are you actually on now? [00:16] 22.04.2 [00:16] lubuntu [00:16] 20 was totally broke [00:16] 18 was good but i red it is oing to be out of service soon.. [00:16] tekisui: Right. [00:17] and all these snaps seem to break the system too ? [00:17] i think ubuntu just introduced it.. [00:17] tekisui: Which nvidia driver are you using? [00:17] it´s a pretty old pc [00:18] i got an idea i will try sudo the nvidia settings but i have to fill in the size manually [00:18] nvidia driver 390 [00:18] (gf108-gforce gt350) [00:20] am scared i broke it a few times before [00:20] is there a way to acces the settings ? [00:20] in grub or something ? [00:20] tekisui: Bacups? [00:20] mostly i restart lubuntu 14 from an usb stick [00:20] tekisui: Yeah, you can edit the files if you mount the main drive. [00:21] ok that´s a start [00:21] just sudo gedit ? [00:21] tekisui: Yeah, if you have it mounted. [00:22] ok.. [00:22] tekisui: You're really outside my knowledge with this, I just thought I'd get some of the necessary info out here. [00:22] will 18 be in service for another long time ? [00:22] ok.. [00:22] merci [00:22] tekisui: I think 18 goes out of support in a month. [00:22] oh ok [00:23] red you can have a few more years email suport or something [00:23] didn´t quite understood it [00:24] Extended Security Maintenance (ESM)* [00:24] says it should last untill 2028 [00:24] ah well this works so far [00:32] tekisui: "gt350" >> 340 version driver == Nvidia no longer offers support: http://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/3142/~/support-timeframes-for-unix-legacy-gpu-releases // and last release that ubuntu supported is 20.04: https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa . [00:32] tekisui: *l*ubuntu 18.04 has been out of support for 2 years [00:32] ubuntu 18.04 is out of support now (unless ESM) [00:32] ah.. [00:33] so it´s better to use xorg ? [00:33] due to what Bashing-om just posted, legacy nvidia graphics chipset, you'll probably need to use nouveau if you'll run current *ubuntu releases [00:33] !nvidia [00:33] Drivers for Nvidia graphics cards: (A) No gaming/CAD/CUDA needed or legacy hardware? Use "nouveau" (open source, lacks many features). (B) Otherwise, "nvidia" (proprietary driver, fully featured). Install using "ubuntu-drivers" CLI or apt - not from nvidia.com. Driver series, hardware support (release notes): https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/drivers/unix/ - Latest drivers !PPA: https://pad.lv/ppa/graphics-drivers [00:34] you're case A there [00:35] ah with xorg i need to tune ¨tearfree again¨ [00:35] i hope it´s possible [00:36] i would assume xorg is the better option with nvidia *proprietary* drivers still, not sure about nouveau (likely, too). [00:37] i should say "drivers by nvidia corporations" (both thier proprietary and the 'open' drivers) [00:37] ok.. [00:39] merci [00:39] have a good day [01:59] Learn what an Alabama Hot Pocket is by reading this spellbinding story of the steamy hot meeting between Mexico City Mayor Claudia Sheinbaum and Campeche Gobernor Layda Sansores. Edify yourself on Mexican Politics and Alabama Hot Pockets today! https://justpaste.it/Sheinbaum_Alabama_Hot_Pocket === xenial is now known as Guest3006 [04:23] hi. can someone point me in the direction as to why nautilus wouldn't have any allowed protocols for connecting to network drives? [04:23] the help bubble doesn't show any and typing smb:// just gives me a red address and a connect button that is grayed out [04:48] !samba | Macer [04:48] Macer: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and https://ubuntu.com/server/docs/samba-introduction === ord is now known as quem === mike is now known as Guest5768 === nikhil__ is now known as nkshirsa === bert2trs is now known as bertptrs [08:56] will 24.04 be an LTS? [08:56] LuckyMan: yes [08:57] :-) [09:46] where is latest nvidia drivers??? [09:48] Dead [09:49] skarp, sudo apt-get install nvidia-525-dkms [09:51] Liowenex thanks will try [09:51] :) [09:51] E: Unable to locate package nvidia-525-dkms [09:52] Have you tried using the additional drivers page in Software sources? [09:54] yes using nvidia driver version on system 525.105.17 on nvidia site 525.116.03 [09:55] Then you don't need a new one, do you? [09:56] I want 525.116.03 [09:56] latest [09:57] Tough. [09:57] Linux doesn't get as much love as Windows from NVIDIA. [09:57] You'll have to wait. [09:58] It's a small update, it'll get added to the repositories on Ubuntu eventually. [09:59] I just feel little bit mislead when i installed said latest nvidia drivers :) === Maik0 is now known as Maik [09:59] Liowenex I see 240hz is missing [10:00] Your eyes literally can't even see that!!! [10:01] in general nvidia and linux is pain :) [10:01] You're wrong, Linux is excellent, and unless you have another question you should move this to #ubuntu-offtopic [10:01] cannot agree on windows animation more fluid [10:02] skarp: sometimes nvidia has the latest drivers from their website [10:02] The first mistake people like you make is that you expect Linux to work and behave exactly like Windows, exactly the way you want it to, right out of the box [10:02] The world doesn't work that way [10:02] linux excellent if hardware fully supported if not just annoying === Forza_ is now known as Forza [11:10] hello [11:10] i have lubuntu 22.04 with an nvidia video card [11:10] can i configure the ¨xorg¨ window for tearfree somehow ? [11:15] or manual set up tearfree for the nvidia driver ? [11:15] tekisui: which nvidia card? which driver version? [11:15] jesus i been struggling with this for years now [11:16] hello tarzeau [11:16] geforce gt530 [11:16] tekisui: i googled, did you try this? https://www.makeuseof.com/fix-screen-tearing-on-linux/ [11:16] it´s a pretty old pc [11:16] ok thanks i will try [11:17] maybe i need to edit some xorg.conf again, but sometimes it breaks === birb is now known as erica [11:22] AT-SPI: Error retrieving accessibility bus address: [11:22] i can ignore this message ? [11:23] unless you are handicapped and need any accessibility technology (AT) ... [11:23] ahh ok.. [11:23] thanks [11:25] goodday === bad_1 is now known as badbodh [11:34] I have a 22.04 server which is uptodate with the latest packages as of right now, I want to be able to recreate a server just like it in the future, with the exact same versions. Can I list and download all the installed packages and use that to install the new server? [11:42] tykling: not really, but you could clone the machine [11:42] tykling: or just reinstall the same packages [11:42] hah :) clone the machine, good one [11:42] the disk [11:43] yeah, no [11:43] yes [11:43] yes that is not what I am looking for [11:43] I need apt to tell me which versions are installed in a format I can then use to install the same versions again [11:43] i often use echo $(dpkg -l |grep ^ii |awk '{print $2}') [11:44] you get the same versions automatically if you turn off phased updates, and use a released version of ubuntu lts [11:44] unless, well if you don't upgrade the machine for security updates? [11:45] phased updates, I'll need to look up what that is [11:45] yep. the version should always be the latest available anyway [11:45] I was just going to disable all the apt sources and use a local directory with debs as the repo [11:46] tykling: i've got a helper to get rid of it: https://github.com/alexmyczko/autoexec.bat/blob/master/config.sys/ubuntu-remove-phased-updates [11:46] and do clone the packages there is https://linuxprograms.wordpress.com/2010/05/12/dpkg-get-selections/ for example [11:46] so you want to run the machines offline or in a not-internet connected network? [11:46] and you can apply it again with set-selections [11:47] yes it is airgapped and for regulatory reasons (it is medtech stuff) we have to guarantee we can reproduce an identical server in the future (also in 5 or 10 years) [11:47] (yes, from an infosec perspective it is horrible, but this is how the medtech world works) [11:47] tykling: then you'd have to setup a mirror, create a snapshot of the packages. but even then. 5 years is a long time and the maximum for free security updates [11:48] 10 years is like - i don't get how people can stay that long on the same version of some software [11:48] that is ok, I dont get it either, but that doesn't change the task at hand :) [11:48] a clone of the harddrive still sounds much easier [11:49] i'd say have a look at apt download, or after install just don't run apt clean and take a copy of all downloaded debs and store them [11:49] it isn't just 1 server [11:49] it doesn't matter. you can clone a disk many times [11:50] dd is your friend, done that 20 years ago with solaris: http://www.aiei.ch/linux/ubercopy/ [11:50] they will have different configuration, certificates, integrations to 3rd party systems, keys and all kinds of shit. disk cloning is not the answer, but thanks [11:50] we even had an ultrasparc 5 for only that [11:50] I wanted to use apt download but I need a list for it to download right? [11:50] and how is the configs managed? ansible? something else? [11:50] tykling: yes and you'll need be extra careful with dependencies :) [11:51] mostly ansible, which also installs all the packages which I need to ensure stay the same versions (including recursive deps) [11:51] there's also dpkg-repack but it'll not be identical, no this is an ugly hack for packages you don't have sources for [11:51] i'd take out the package install from your ansible away and separate it [11:52] not sure if ansible in 5 or 10 years will be able to read and apply your todays configuration files [11:52] tykling: if you have your own apt repository with ONLY these versions, then you don't need to track the versions [11:52] alkisg: that is a good point! [11:52] I.e. install using ubuntu-22, then update, then download all debs and put them in a repository. Then if you install any other server using ubuntu-22, add only your repository, and update, you're done [11:53] yeah maybe aptly or reprepro are helpful [12:00] what's aptly for? https://www.aptly.info/about/ doesn't tell it === hasley is now known as mahler [12:13] hey has anyone here used systemd for applying AmbientCapabilities to a service? I'm trying to run something and when I use AmbientCapabilities=CAP_NET_BIND_SERVICE it's fine, but AmbientCapabilities=CAP_NET_BIND_SERVICE, CAP_SYS_ADMIN provides a failure? [12:51] Hi all [13:08] https://s3.eu-central-2.wasabisys.com/mastodonworld/media_attachments/files/110/310/314/535/191/808/original/7954c096f0b28990.jpg [14:19] well.. if i can figure out how to get gestures to work properly on this pinebook pro then the only caveat on it will be the lack of proper power management heh [14:21] adding the gestures daemon and the gnome extension doesn't seem to work [14:21] Macer: tweaking your system, try dconf-editor [14:25] since last update, ubuntu fails to play audio when resuming from sleep, and the only solution I've found is to close gnome session and reopen it, which makes suspension basically useless [14:27] I've tried switching audio output device (speaker/hdmi) but everything seems muted [14:27] check your dmesg arkanoid [14:27] and feel free to !paste it to the volunteers for debugging [15:00] hello, I have ubuntu 22.04 running on a drive with multiple partitions, I would like to merge them but I am not sure if this will work: [15:00] live boot, copy or dd everything to another drive, format disk and install ubuntu, copy or dd everthing back [15:01] would this preserve all system files? [15:01] or corrupt the new install [15:07] bagatur: https://askubuntu.com/questions/66000/how-to-merge-partitions [15:12] * luna is watching the stream [15:55] so, I thought "this is sweet, I can install brave as a snap, and keepassxc as a snap, then install the keepassxc-browser plugin and be all set...right? https://github.com/keepassxreboot/keepassxc/issues/5893 hmmmm....is this something that's in the plans or is there a workaround? [15:55] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Issue 5893 in keepassxreboot/keepassxc "Snap connect" [Closed] [15:57] indeed an issue, browser snap and keeppassxc, firefox too [16:00] I mean, I love that snaps are sandboxed...but docker is sandboxed and it can connect just fine [16:04] docker is not truly sandboxed by default [16:05] That is one reason the unikernel as a process fad started picking up steam in enterprise computing [16:06] bagatur: I don't think you want to use dd, it's an image copy program, and what you need is a file copy program liks rsync. You need to preserve some extended attributes, and I'm not sure how you do that, but it's easy to find. [16:07] bagatur: You can do live merges and live partition resizing, but you should always have a backup anyway, and backup, repartition, restore is usally a lot faster. [16:37] jhutchins: yes by copy I didn't mean cp only, could use rsync as well. My question was on preserving system-wide files like apt programs, configurations like grub config etc. === alkisg1 is now known as alkisg [16:43] bagatur: what kind of partitions do you have? (sudo lsblk -fe7; df -h ) | nc termbin.com 9999 [16:46] bagatur: I strongly recommend rsync over cp. rsync can preserve timestamps, extended attributes, and other essential information about the files. [16:46] bagatur: You might also look at Clonezilla - https://clonezilla.org/ - a dedicated cloning suie. [16:49] alkisg: one for swap, ext4's for /, /home, /boot, /tmp and /var, lastly vfat for /boot/efi [16:49] jhutchins: ty, I already use rsync for backups [16:49] bagatur: the commands above would also mention their order and size, to see if it would be easier to merge them rather than re-create everything from scratch [17:02] alkisg: https://termbin.com/yrl2 [17:07] Hello, my proprietary graphics driver for nvidea rtx 2070 no longer works and am trying to install the open drivers. I looked online and tried various commands, no no avail. The proprietary drivers are removed, so everything looks large and pixelated now [17:11] The other options for drivers are greyed out in additional software [17:12] mayormccheese: your available drivers you can check with; ubuntu-drivers list === xenial is now known as Guest2385 [17:13] lotuspsychje Am not sure what to select, or if I can select. [17:14] mayormccheese: did your last driver fail after a recent update? [17:14] lotuspsychje It was proprietary, by nvidia, so they need to sort that stuff out [17:15] Meanwhile, I would like to have something that works [17:15] lotuspsychje I used the proprietary drivers for video editing, but cannot do that now [17:15] mayormccheese: did your last driver fail after a recent update? [17:16] lotuspsychje Want open driver, please. [17:16] open = nouveau [17:16] yours need nvidia5xx [17:17] If anyone can kindly guide me to install open drivers, I would be most grateful. [17:19] what linux version are you on? [17:20] oerheks 22.04 [17:20] .02 [17:29] mayormccheese: big rtx cards best to use the nvidia driver(s) and login to xorg instead of wayland [17:30] lotuspsychje Cannot as Nvidia has a problem they need to sort out [17:30] mayormccheese: thats a bit of a too general statement, needs a deeper investigation of what happens in your system [17:30] lotuspsychje Was here yesterday and someone helped show that Nvidia fell alseep at the switch [17:31] mayormccheese: sharing your dmesg in a pastebin would be a good start [17:31] !paste & mayormccheese [17:31] !paste [17:31] For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://dpaste.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [17:39] Hello, my Ubuntu VM stopped responding to the IPv6 after an increase in website traffic, and I needed to restart the OS. How can I understand what the problem is? [18:03] punkgeek: the first thing to look at is always your system logs. "journalctl" is the command to do so. [18:04] if you can correlate the time of the event, it will make it easier to identify any (if any) *related* log messages. === PeasfulTown is now known as peas === Forza_ is now known as Forza === bad_1 is now known as badbodh [19:25] nig [19:26] kenny: hmm? [19:27] hi === sario528 is now known as Sario [20:33] nhkjg [21:05] hi, trying to install Curseforge on Lutris client on Ubuntu 23.04. info in pastebin https://pastebin.com/qySrfshM [21:13] or something with the gstreamer package [21:16] i have no idea about lutris, there is a channel #lutris though [21:18] oerheks, thanks, i'll try to get some help there. [21:39] another thing, when i try to sudo apt update, i get theese errors. is it wrong repository? or what should i do? https://pastebin.com/3fUC7gFg [21:41] there are no lunar packages for that ppa https://launchpad.net/~flatpak/+archive/ubuntu/stable [21:41] !info flatpak lunar [21:42] flatpak (1.14.4-1ubuntu1, lunar): Application deployment framework for desktop apps. In component universe, is optional. Built by flatpak. Size 1,331 kB / 5,350 kB. (Only available for linux-any.) [21:42] so, our repos give the latest already [21:42] oerheks, so i have to remove the repo somehow ? [21:42] just disable in software, yes. as it never got packages, no problem [21:46] oerheks, it also says there is an error when starting the software updater, that must be the same reason then? in other software, i just uncheck the flatpak repo, to solve the problem ? [21:46] remove the flatpak ppa [21:51] tip; install synaptic, a much more detailed softwarecenter === guiverc2 is now known as guiverc [22:00] oerheks, its solved now, thanks! ill take a look at synaptic [22:35] evening everyone [22:35] anyone know why, other than to drive more peopple to their commercial offerings, Canonical has made updating Ubuntu such a pain? [22:36] no money, no updates, friend [22:36] jilocasin: if you have a specific Ubuntu related support question please ask. if you just want to discuss Ubuntu in general please do it in #ubuntu-discuss [22:37] ravage: sure, in older versions of Unbuntu, say 18.x I can script a bunch of apt-get update/upgrade/apt autoremove and it will just complete. [22:38] ravage: but in current versions of Ubuntu, the same script is interupted by screens to let you know your kernel's out of date, or asking you if you want to restart services. This means that you can't just run the commands without having to be there to acknowledge those prompts. [22:39] ravage: is there a *simple* command line way to supress those screens/prompts? [22:39] DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive apt-get -y upgrade [22:39] add -y often works [22:40] and im sure a few others that may be helpful [22:40] oerheks: not really [22:40] ravage: right now I'm getting the "Daemons using outdated libraries" [22:40] https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/explain-debian_frontend-apt-get-variable-for-ubuntu-debian/ shows some [22:41] that sounds like the needrestart package [22:41] you can just remove that if it bothers yoi [22:41] *you [22:42] or adjust /etc/needrestart/needrestart.conf [22:43] ravage: tried removing it, but it also removed quite a few perl libs. :/ [22:44] ravage: not quite as bad as ubuntu-advantage, which is nearly impossible to remove. [22:45] ubuntu-advantage is pretty hard to get rid of compared to other packages [22:45] but there are guides to do that too. or at least disable most of its functions [22:45] Peso Pluma's Cocaine and Shit-Filled Adventure with Mexican politicians Sheinbaum and Sansores . Peso Pluma talks Claudia Sheinbaum and Layda Sansores into a cocaine-fueled sex session involving Alabama Hot Pockets on 05/04/2023 at the Hotel El Español in Merida, Yucatan. Read all about it here: https://justpaste.it/PesoPluma_Sheinbaum_Sansores [22:46] ravage: what would be best would be if ubuntu is going to add anoying prompts to the upgrade process, that they provide a command line switch to disable them as well. [22:46] personally i dont mind it [22:46] i even use it [22:46] ravage: when you are updating 20-30 servers, it gets real tedious. 18.x just run the compund script and you are done. [22:46] all tools should check DEBIAN_FRONTEND in a perfect world [22:47] ravage: current versions mean that I have to wait, tab, tab, enter several times per machine manually. [22:47] i run automatic updates on a lot of 22.04 servers via script [22:47] never had any problems really [22:48] ravage: if there's a kernel update, then that's potentially several other screens that stop the processed dead in it's tracks until I acknowledge that I am running an outdated kernel. [22:49] ravage: so your confirming what I was afraid of, there's no switch to supress this annoying behaviour that I've missed. [22:50] been running https://p.haxxors.com/dist-upgradesh.txt for years [22:50] 18.04 to now 22.04 [22:50] no prompts. all peachy [22:50] ravage: I'm not upgrading verisons [22:51] me neither [22:51] ravage: I'm running a variant of-> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade -y && sudo apt-get upgrade -y linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic && sudo apt autoremove -y && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade -y [22:51] just has been the same script since forever [22:52] i did remove the needrestart stuff. so i cant say much about that [22:53] it is not part of my deployment [22:57] while running suso apt upgrade -y there are lots of errors observed [22:57] sunny@sunny-XPS-15-9510:~$ sudo apt upgrade -y [22:57] Reading package lists... Done [22:57] Building dependency tree... Done [22:57] Reading state information... Done [22:57] Calculating upgrade... Done [22:57] !paste | sunny [22:57] sunny: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://dpaste.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [22:59] unset ARCH; [ ! -h /usr/bin/cc ] && export CC=/usr/bin/gcc; env NV_VERBOSE=1 'make' -j16 NV_EXCLUDE_BUILD_MODULES='' KERNEL_UNAME=6.3.1-060301-generic IGNORE_XEN_PRESENCE=1 IGNORE_CC_MISMATCH=1 SYSSRC=/lib/modules/6.3.1-060301-generic/bu [22:59] ild LD=/usr/bin/ld.bfd CONFIG_X86_KERNEL_IBT= modules.....(bad exit status: 2) [22:59] ERROR (dkms apport): kernel package linux-headers-6.3.1-060301-generic is not supported [22:59] Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 6.3.1-060301-generic (x86_64) [22:59] Consult /var/lib/dkms/nvidia/470.182.03/build/make.log for more information. [22:59] Error! One or more modules failed to install during autoinstall. [22:59] sunny, do not paste like that [22:59] read the warnings [23:00] Alexa, what is pastebin? [23:00] lunar gives kernel 6.2, so you use a custom kernel 6.3, unsupported here. [23:00] sunny@sunny-XPS-15-9510:~$ [23:00] ok sure [23:01] that might explain the nvidia failure [23:01] * good luck [23:03] yes got it will create an item on dpaste and share the link [23:03] https://dpaste.com/8G8WL6E5W [23:10] reverse back to 6.2.0-21.21 and your nvidia dkms works fine [23:18] ok so it seems the nvidia drivers are not compatable with latest released kernel version 6.3 [23:40] I have too many tabls open (*G RAM) and chrome is again consipating the entire system. Where can I effectively write and complain-increase awareness for those who can rewrite that part of chrome - so that this is handled better? [23:40] 22.-4 up to date [23:40] luna is morgan === luna__ is now known as margan-mate [23:41] 8G oc 8=*. [23:41] every tab is its own sandbox, so no. [23:42] Thanks. I need to look up what the sandbox is.