[04:48] <porquilho> Client: HexChat 2.16.0 • OS: Ubuntu "jammy" 22.04 • CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) Silver J5005 CPU @ 1.50GHz (800MHz) • Memory: Physical: 7,4 GiB Total (5,7 GiB Free) Swap: 2,0 GiB Total (2,0 GiB Free) • Storage: 119,3 GB / 245,0 GB (125,7 GB Free) • VGA: Intel Corporation GeminiLake [UHD Graphics 605] @ Intel Corporation Gemini Lake Host Bridge • Uptime: 10m 39s
[08:39] <itachi> hello
[08:39] <itachi> hello
[09:47] <Sylvain31> Hello is installing a xubuntu desktop image, the same as installing ubuntu-server + sudo tasksel install xubuntu-desktop + lightdm ?
[09:54] <tomreyn> not exactly, you'll end up with different packages installed. for example, ubuntu server comes with cloud-init and netplan and uses systemd-networkd for network management by default, whereas the xubuntu installation would setup network manager and not install cloud-init or netplan.
[10:18] <Sylvain31> OK, Thanks. I saw that.
[10:22] <Sylvain31> Where can I found detail on how the iso is built? From https://unit193.net/xubuntu/ it seems it should start from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD + a meta-package 
[12:13] <Sylvain31> According to some rapid search I made I can see this post: https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/poll-about-possible-netboot-mini-iso-revival-in-future-ubuntu-releases/19457
[12:14] <Sylvain31> So it seems that the minial iso is beeing removed. latest 20.04 if I'm right. So I'm now searching how to build Xubuntu-core :-)
[12:14] <Sylvain31> an updated one :-)
[13:06] <Unit193> Umm, just use the one provided by xubuntu.org?
[13:08] <Unit193> It's not updated by me anymore because it doesn't need to be...
[13:10] <Sylvain31> Unit193, according to https://xubuntu.org/news/xubuntu-23-04-released/ in the latest xubuntu release notes, they discuss that there are now "minimal" images.
[13:10] <Sylvain31> It this image supported? Can it be rebuilt with custom stuff?
[15:59] <rudyvalencia> I'm using Discord v0.0.27 from both the official DEB package and the snap. Neither of these show a tray icon and if I minimize Discord it disappears and I have to kill and restart it to get the window back. Any reason this might be happening?
[16:00] <rudyvalencia> (forgot to mention, Xubuntu 22.04 LTS, all packages are current)
[16:22] <diogenes_Vx15> rudyvalencia, i don't remember exactly but i suppose that version required a separate systray plugin (can't remember the exact name) and also check if the discord tray icon is not marked as "hidden".
[16:23] <rudyvalencia> Someone said that but it looks like a GNOME plugin, not an XFCE one
[16:25] <diogenes_Vx15> rudyvalencia, it's a XFCE plugin, alternatively you could try other systray plugins like: stalonetray and see whether you get a better result with that one.
[16:25] <rudyvalencia> Apparently it's supposedly related to ayatana-indicator-application
[16:26] <rudyvalencia> brb gonna test it
[16:26] <diogenes_Vx15> you don't need ayatana stuff.
[16:26] <rudyvalencia> https://gitlab.xfce.org/xfce/xfce4-panel/-/issues/599#note_60793
[16:26] -ubottu:#xubuntu- Issue 599 in xfce/xfce4-panel "[Bug] icons do not reliably show up in systray" [Closed]
[16:26] <rudyvalencia> OK testing now
[16:29] <rudyvalencia> So that didn't work
[16:29] <diogenes_Vx15> what didn't work?
[16:29] <rudyvalencia> Removing ayatana-indicator-application
[16:30] <rudyvalencia> Now Remmina doesn't have its tray icon
[16:30] <rudyvalencia> Nor does TeamViewer
[16:31] <diogenes_Vx15> rudyvalencia, i think it was called notificatuin area, check this out: https://docs.xfce.org/xfce/xfce4-panel/systray
[16:32] <rudyvalencia> I don't seem to have one like that
[16:32] <rudyvalencia> It appears to be called Status Tray Plugin
[16:32] <rudyvalencia> and I already have that in my panel
[16:33] <diogenes_Vx15> ok but do you get any tray icons at all?
[16:33] <rudyvalencia> I get HexChat and Bluetooth icons
[16:35] <rudyvalencia> No Discord, Teamviewer or Remmina icons though
[16:38] <diogenes_Vx15> rudyvalencia, ok i've just tested this discord appimage and it has a tray icon: https://github.com/srevinsaju/discord-appimage/releases/download/stable/Discord-0.0.27-x86_64.AppImage
[16:38] <rudyvalencia> what kind of packaging is that? I've never used appimage
[16:39] <diogenes_Vx15> appimages are like application with all the dependencies in the package itself so it'a like a portable app.
[16:39] <rudyvalencia> ah
[16:39] <diogenes_Vx15> https://github.com/srevinsaju/discord-appimage/releases
[16:40] <diogenes_Vx15> there is all the info ^^^
[16:41] <rudyvalencia> Interesting, I don't get it here
[16:41] <rudyvalencia> I wonder if it's because I'm using an SSSD-managed domain account
[16:43] <diogenes_Vx15> rudyvalencia, run in terminal: grep ^ /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* | nc termbin.com 9999
[16:43] <diogenes_Vx15> share the url
[16:43] <rudyvalencia2> This is rudyvalencia just on my cellphone
[16:44] <rudyvalencia> https://termbin.com/tgsrk
[16:46] <rudyvalencia2> Works fine on a local (non-domain) account
[16:46] <diogenes_Vx15> ok
[16:46] <rudyvalencia2> I also see a warning every time I log in with any account
[16:48] <rudyvalencia2> "System program problem detected / Do you want to report the problem now? / [ ❌ Cancel ] [ Report problem... ]"
[16:49] <diogenes_Vx15> rudyvalencia2, you can run in terminal: cat .xsession-errors
[16:49] <diogenes_Vx15> and see if you can hunt down any errora there, because that
[16:49] <diogenes_Vx15> a lot of reading.
[16:49] <rudyvalencia2> Okay
[16:50] <rudyvalencia2> Logging back into my domain user profile
[16:50] <diogenes_Vx15> actually better run: cat .xsession-errors | more
[16:54] <rudyvalencia2> Found something in Discord's output to a terminal:
[16:56] <rudyvalencia2> "IBUS-WARNING **: 10:53:19.993: Failed to mkdir /home/domainuser.DOMAIN/snap/discord/153/.config/ibus/bus: Not a directory"
[16:57] <diogenes_Vx15> rudyvalencia2, have you tried the appimage i've given you?
[16:58] <rudyvalencia2> Yes, it doesn't have the IBus error but it also does not show a tray icon
[16:59] <diogenes_Vx15> well it works on a different account so you the problem might be in your .config/xfce4 directory
[17:00] <rudyvalencia2> I installed IBus and the GTK 2/3/4 support and it's working but now I see extra keyboard indicators in my tray
[17:00] <diogenes_Vx15> you can hide that one.
[17:01] <rudyvalencia2> Yeah found that
[17:02] <rudyvalencia2> All good here. I think IBus was making Discord skip its icon creation routine.
[17:02] <rudyvalencia2> *the lack of IBus
[17:03] <rudyvalencia2> Ayatana wasn't the issue either *strokes chin*
[17:03] <diogenes_Vx15> no i-bus here and it still works, i don't think that's the issue.
[17:03] <rudyvalencia2> Okay something must've gone wrong with my profile then
[17:04] <rudyvalencia2> But now it's fine, strangely enough
[17:06] <rudyvalencia2> *goes off to do other important things*
[18:44] <xu-help82w> Hej my screen shuts off even when on youtube
[18:45] <xu-help82w> maybe 10-15 min
[19:36] <xu-help82w> hello?