| cpaelzer | hello | 14:30 |
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| cpaelzer | #startmeeting Weekly Main Inclusion Requests status | 14:30 |
| meetingology | Meeting started at 14:30:46 UTC. The chair is cpaelzer. Information about MeetBot at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | 14:30 |
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| cpaelzer | Ping for MIR meeting - didrocks joalif slyon sarnold cpaelzer jamespage ( eslerm dviererbe ) | 14:30 |
| slyon | o/ | 14:30 |
| cpaelzer | Not sure if everyone made it back from the sprint yet | 14:30 |
| eslerm | good morning o/ | 14:31 |
| dviererbe | Hello o/ | 14:31 |
| cpaelzer | but in case you did - hello o/ | 14:31 |
| jbicha | hi, I'll be filing the MIRs related to transmission soon | 14:31 |
| cpaelzer | ok, good to know ahead of time jbicha | 14:31 |
| cpaelzer | let us see if syncs brought us something already | 14:31 |
| cpaelzer | #topic current component mismatches | 14:31 |
| cpaelzer | Mission: Identify required actions and spread the load among the teams | 14:31 |
| cpaelzer | #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches-proposed.svg | 14:31 |
| cpaelzer | #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches.svg | 14:31 |
| cpaelzer | transmission (as mentioned by jbicha) | 14:32 |
| cpaelzer | jaraco.text was there last cycle and is still on openstack | 14:32 |
| slyon | policykit-1 -> duktape seems known (didn't we resolve that in the past? | 14:32 |
| joalif | o/ | 14:32 |
| cpaelzer | jamespage: in case you read this now or later, what is the mantic minotaur plan for dependencies of jaraco ? | 14:32 |
| didrocks | hello | 14:32 |
| cpaelzer | oh, one more thing | 14:32 |
| cpaelzer | I have went backwards on duktape IIRC | 14:32 |
| cpaelzer | it is still seen in component mismatch proposed right now | 14:33 |
| cpaelzer | I guess that is meant to land soo, was that ready - if not what was yet open? | 14:33 |
| jamespage | cpaelzer: unsure - I need to sync with coreycb and the ubuntu-ceph team to figure that out | 14:33 |
| cpaelzer | ok jamespage, do that and get back to us | 14:33 |
| jamespage | but I'll find out and return with news... | 14:33 |
| cpaelzer | I just want to avoid it hangs in mismatches for many more months | 14:33 |
| jamespage | yep me too | 14:33 |
| jbicha | cpaelzer: I believe Desktop still has a required autopkgtest TODO for duktape | 14:34 |
| cpaelzer | yes, there were some open tasks | 14:34 |
| cpaelzer | that very much could be one | 14:35 |
| cpaelzer | jbicha: do you know if that task of getting it ready is on the roadmap or anyones desk? | 14:35 |
| slyon | So I think duktape should be marked "Incomplete" to reflect that? | 14:35 |
| cpaelzer | It was incomplete after my review | 14:35 |
| jbicha | cpaelzer: duktape is on Desktop's roadmap to try to get done within the next few weeks | 14:35 |
| cpaelzer | went to security | 14:35 |
| cpaelzer | and they marked it "ok" after their ack | 14:36 |
| cpaelzer | incomplete is indeed the right status, thanks for suggesting slyon | 14:36 |
| cpaelzer | thanks jbicha, so in some near future Desktop will come back , call it ready, we will look again and then it can move | 14:36 |
| cpaelzer | sounds reasonable | 14:36 |
| jbicha | 👍 | 14:36 |
| cpaelzer | status fixed | 14:38 |
| slyon | thx! | 14:38 |
| cpaelzer | ok, next | 14:38 |
| cpaelzer | #topic New MIRs | 14:38 |
| cpaelzer | Mission: ensure to assign all incoming reviews for fast processing | 14:38 |
| cpaelzer | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&assignee_option=none&field.assignee=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir | 14:38 |
| cpaelzer | nothing there yet | 14:39 |
| cpaelzer | next | 14:39 |
| cpaelzer | #topic Incomplete bugs / questions | 14:39 |
| cpaelzer | Mission: Identify required actions and spread the load among the teams | 14:39 |
| cpaelzer | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir | 14:39 |
| cpaelzer | no recent updates | 14:39 |
| cpaelzer | the sprint and recent release made things rather easy :-) | 14:39 |
| cpaelzer | #topic Process/Documentation improvements | 14:40 |
| cpaelzer | Mission: Review pending process/documentation pull-requests or issues | 14:40 |
| cpaelzer | #link https://github.com/canonical/ubuntu-mir/pulls | 14:40 |
| cpaelzer | #link https://github.com/canonical/ubuntu-mir/issues | 14:40 |
| cpaelzer | We have my PR, but I'd postpone that to the AOB section at the end | 14:40 |
| cpaelzer | it is meant to trigger discussion and bikeshedding, that asks for the open-end section of the meeting | 14:40 |
| cpaelzer | #topic MIR related Security Review Queue | 14:40 |
| cpaelzer | Mission: Check on progress, do deadlines seem doable? | 14:40 |
| cpaelzer | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-security/+bugs?field.searchtext=%5BMIR%5D&assignee_option=choose&field.assignee=ubuntu-security&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir | 14:40 |
| cpaelzer | Internal link | 14:40 |
| cpaelzer | - ensure your teams items are prioritized among each other as you'd expect | 14:40 |
| cpaelzer | - ensure community requests do not get stomped by teams calling for favors too much | 14:41 |
| cpaelzer | #link https://warthogs.atlassian.net/jira/software/c/projects/SEC/boards/594 | 14:41 |
| cpaelzer | We have discussed about them just before the sprint | 14:41 |
| cpaelzer | a few things in there, related to cargo and heif | 14:41 |
| slyon | (where cargo should be high priority and heif best effort) | 14:41 |
| cpaelzer | I haven't seen sarnold or eslerm today to ask about openscap/smartcards if they got new focus | 14:41 |
| cpaelzer | slyon: that prio isn't reflected | 14:41 |
| cpaelzer | but we can fix it up | 14:41 |
| eslerm | cargo discussion at the sprint was productive, unblocked our dependency concerns | 14:42 |
| cpaelzer | libgit2 was related to cargo right? | 14:42 |
| slyon | cpaelzer: yes, so is http-parser | 14:42 |
| slyon | I've set those to "high" priority on the board | 14:42 |
| eslerm | iirc, smartcards were removed a cycle or two ago since desktop was no longer owning them | 14:42 |
| cpaelzer | I see the "high" so year, you are good | 14:43 |
| cpaelzer | sorry for the noise | 14:43 |
| eslerm | previously, we needed hardware for testing and at least one package needed significant work | 14:43 |
| cpaelzer | eslerm: ok, so no comeback of them yet | 14:43 |
| cpaelzer | thanks | 14:43 |
| eslerm | yes, unless desktop wants them | 14:43 |
| cpaelzer | yep | 14:43 |
| cpaelzer | #topic Any other business? | 14:43 |
| eslerm | it would be nice to support them | 14:43 |
| cpaelzer | from me, get the discussion on https://github.com/canonical/ubuntu-mir/pull/17 going | 14:44 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Pull 17 in canonical/ubuntu-mir "add re-reviews to the MIR process" [Open] | 14:44 | |
| didrocks | thanks for tackling this cpaelzer! | 14:44 |
| eslerm | ^ | 14:44 |
| slyon | +1! | 14:44 |
| cpaelzer | yw, it isn't perfect but a start | 14:44 |
| cpaelzer | Question #1 I have is on preference of how to express the rules | 14:44 |
| cpaelzer | right now I have copied the template and modified it | 14:45 |
| cpaelzer | pro: readable | 14:45 |
| cpaelzer | con: duplication / redundancy | 14:45 |
| slyon | I suggested to add an asterisk (*) to the TODOs/sections that are needed for re-review | 14:45 |
| cpaelzer | would you rather prefer to merge the "re-review" with the "review" template and flag them somehow? | 14:45 |
| slyon | I'm afraid the templates will diverge if handled separately | 14:45 |
| eslerm | imo, clarity justifies redundancy | 14:45 |
| didrocks | +1 on slyon's proposal | 14:45 |
| cpaelzer | +1 on slyon's suggestion - at least let me do that and then we can have a look | 14:46 |
| cpaelzer | I haven't seen that yet | 14:46 |
| slyon | the asterisk shouldn't affect clarity too much and we can give a nice explanation about the * below the template | 14:46 |
| dviererbe | I think a copy would be fine, because the template is much more often copied that edited, but I also like the * Idea | 14:46 |
| cpaelzer | We already filter out the RULE: sections | 14:46 |
| eslerm | slyon: that makes sense | 14:46 |
| cpaelzer | I think the same way we can restrict to only or without those | 14:46 |
| cpaelzer | one question though | 14:46 |
| cpaelzer | there are things which "ONLY" apply to re-review | 14:47 |
| cpaelzer | would you be ok with "*** TODO: ..." for those? | 14:47 |
| slyon | "Then potentially having a new [Re-review*] section below for stuff that's only relevant for re-reviews. And giving an explanation about the * below, too (as usual)." | 14:47 |
| cpaelzer | oh that is nice | 14:47 |
| didrocks | but those are the exceptions, correct? I guess a dedicated marker is fine | 14:47 |
| cpaelzer | thanks for having better ideas on the layout | 14:47 |
| cpaelzer | ok, I'll overhaul with that in mind for next week | 14:47 |
| cpaelzer | dviererbe: I've seen your question as well | 14:48 |
| cpaelzer | dviererbe: it is meant to be a continuous effort | 14:48 |
| cpaelzer | dviererbe: but no high hopes please | 14:48 |
| dviererbe | thanks sylon also answered that in the github isue | 14:48 |
| cpaelzer | dviererbe: the amount we can do is <<< things in main | 14:48 |
| cpaelzer | so it will be slow | 14:48 |
| cpaelzer | ok, the TL;DR is | 14:49 |
| cpaelzer | 1. you are all generally +1 as you love Ubuntu with quality as much as I do | 14:49 |
| cpaelzer | 2. I'll integrate all your good feedback | 14:49 |
| cpaelzer | 3. I'll reset this PR to needs review | 14:49 |
| cpaelzer | from there we can work on GH and talk again here next week | 14:49 |
| cpaelzer | that is ok for me for today | 14:49 |
| slyon | sounds great, thanks! | 14:49 |
| didrocks | sounds good :) | 14:50 |
| joalif | sounds good :) | 14:50 |
| eslerm | thanks cpaelzer | 14:50 |
| dviererbe | thanks for all the work! | 14:50 |
| cpaelzer | ok, there was nothing else | 14:50 |
| cpaelzer | closing this .... | 14:50 |
| cpaelzer | thank you all! | 14:50 |
| eslerm | o/ | 14:50 |
| cpaelzer | #endmeeting | 14:50 |
| meetingology | Meeting ended at 14:50:27 UTC. Minutes at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2023/ubuntu-meeting.2023-05-09-14.30.moin.txt | 14:50 |
| didrocks | thanks! | 14:50 |
| joalif | thanks cpaelzer all :) | 14:50 |
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