| caribou | Hello, Any reason why many of the Jammy kernels have disapeared from the archives ? | 08:25 |
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| caribou | For instance : | 08:25 |
| caribou | # apt-get install --allow-downgrades linux-image-5.15.0-52-generic | 08:25 |
| caribou | Reading package lists... Done | 08:25 |
| caribou | Building dependency tree... Done | 08:25 |
| caribou | Reading state information... Done | 08:25 |
| caribou | Package linux-image-5.15.0-52-generic is not available, but is referred to by another package. | 08:25 |
| caribou | This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or | 08:25 |
| caribou | is only available from another source | 08:26 |
| caribou | E: Package 'linux-image-5.15.0-52-generic' has no installation candidate | 08:26 |
| caribou | its LP link also goes 404 : https://packages.ubuntu.com/jammy/linux-image-5.15.0-52-generic | 08:26 |
| danilogondolfo | found the same issue today with our github workflow where we try to install linux-modules-extra matching the kernel version running in the system: E: Unable to locate package linux-modules-extra-5.15.0-1036-azure | 10:49 |
| Jeremy31 | danilogondolfo: Are you have hardware issues? | 12:30 |
| danilogondolfo | Jeremy31, no... it's happening in a cloud image. The package is not in the indexes anymore I guess | 14:16 |
| * cking waves | 14:18 | |
| * cking wonders if any folk in the kernel team are debian developers... | 14:19 | |
| Jeremy31 | danilogondolfo: update package lists, I don't see 1036 but there is 1037 | 14:21 |
| ogra | cking, xnox is i think ... | 14:22 |
| cking | if any DD can be an advocate for me, I'm making a DD application and I'd appreciate that sooo much :-) https://nm.debian.org/process/1185/ | 14:22 |
| ogra | (and with that level of growth the last months i'd be surprised if there were not more) | 14:22 |
| cking | xnox, ^ | 14:23 |
| cking | i'm hoping to get more low-level Intel + kernel related tools into Debian :-) | 14:24 |
| arighi | cking, +1 on that (even if I'm not a DD) :D | 14:38 |
| cking | arighi, i see you have asked for a package to be sponsor'd into Debian, you should become a DM :-) | 14:39 |
| cking | I'd +1 for that | 14:39 |
| arighi | cking, one thing at a time... and thanks! :) | 14:40 |
| cking | i love the fact that this channel's topic is "Jammy 22.04 kernel development" - lol | 14:47 |
| arighi | cking, it's still kernel development... :D but we should definitely update it to a more generic topic (no release dependent), not sure who has the right permissions to do that | 14:50 |
| cking | probably apw ;-) | 14:50 |
| JanC | apw, Ubuntu IRC Council & Libera staff apparently | 16:07 |
| ghavil | Howdy, just wanted to check in on https://packages.ubuntu.com/jammy-updates/linux-gcp-lts-22.04 getting released w/ kernel 5.15. With https://packages.ubuntu.com/jammy-updates/linux-gcp being on 5.19 now, it'd be nice to be able to run 5.15 w/ security updates. | 17:17 |
| chiluk | Hey folks dumb question... what is the idea behind release versioning the linux*-tools* packages... this causes lots of pain when attempting to build containers that need perf, but not knowing the kernel that will be used at runtime. | 21:24 |
| chiluk | afaik the tools binaries shouldn't be changing all that much within a kernel major.minor version... i.e. 5.15.0-* | 21:25 |
| chiluk | basically I'd like to install the latest 5.19 -tools package into my container, knowing that my runtime kernel will likely be a later release version of the same Major.minor version. | 21:26 |
| chiluk | As it stands now, we execute /usr/bin/perf and it bombs out because the kernel doesn't match exactly. A better behavior would be an error for an interactive user session followed by an attempt to find the closest versioned binary, or for non-interactive simply attempt to use the closest versioned one. | 21:38 |
| chiluk | but that suggestion has other criticisms. | 21:39 |
| JanC | I assume perf & tools like that are too closely tied to the kernel build to make them work with other kernels...? | 21:50 |
| chiluk | JanC that is the excuse we've historically used.... in reality they are mostly compatible .. | 21:53 |
| JanC | I assume this is an upstream decision, no? | 21:54 |
| chiluk | I think this is an Ubuntu decision. | 22:14 |
| chiluk | It's for the same reason Ubuntu bumps the ABI on each release version... it's not strictly known if it's necessary, but it's being done out of an abundance of caution. | 22:15 |
| chiluk | until now I didn't have a great reason to stop doing that. | 22:15 |
| chiluk | i think being able to run perf out of a container may be that reason. | 22:16 |
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