[09:06] <stegomon> Hi all! I'd like to attempt an upgrade from an up-to-date 20.04 to 22.04 on a desktop. Do I have to pay attention to anything in particular? Any risks / best-practices? Many thanks.. :)
[09:11] <marcopolo1> Hi , is there a way to enable the desktop grid on ubuntu mate? I checked the keep aligned button but icons names still overlap eachother if i move them
[09:29] <sixwheeledbeast> stegomon: firefox will become a snap package, the desktop theme will change to yaru.
[09:29] <sixwheeledbeast> ...
[09:31] <sixwheeledbeast> keep aligned does work but they will still overlap
[09:59] <marcopolo1> So how do i stop them from overlapping?
[10:14] <sixwheeledbeast> If you don't care about the layout of them, organise by name doesn't overlap but will order them down the left.
[10:41] <marcopolo1> Is there no way to make it like on windows where its impossible for them to overlap?
[10:50] <sixwheeledbeast> https://github.com/mate-desktop/caja/issues/644
[10:51] <sixwheeledbeast> the desktop was never really designed to be a storage area, so it's low priority for most users.
[10:53] <sixwheeledbeast> You also have to consider that unlike windows people could have variable/custom styles or sizes of icon, whereas in caja they are fixed dimensions.
[10:58] <sixwheeledbeast> If you look at the XFCE example the font is tiny and within the profile of the icon, MATE is not my icon text is nearly twice the width of the icon for example.
[11:42] <akik> why are the yaru themes confiured so that the active window titlebar can't be easily recognized?
[11:42] <akik> but if i install mate-themes package, the problem goes away
[11:43] <akik> i replied to this github issue https://github.com/ubuntu/yaru/issues/3588
[11:56] <akik> also created this bug report https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-mate/+bug/2018177