[15:01] <liushuyu> o/
[15:01] <ogayot> o/
[15:01] <slyon> \o
[15:01] <zhsj> o/
[15:01] <dviererbe> Hello o/
[15:01] <mateus-morais> o/
[15:03] <bdmurray> o/
[15:03]  * vorlon waves
[15:03] <enr0n> o/
[15:04] <mclemenceau> o/
[15:04] <vorlon> #startmeeting Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team
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[15:04] <vorlon> #topic Lightning rounds
[15:04] <vorlon> #link https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/foundations-team-updates-thursday-11-may-2023/35679/6
[15:05] <vorlon> giving everybody some time to read through and ask questions
[15:05] <vorlon> oops, wrong link
[15:05] <vorlon> #link https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/foundations-team-updates-thursday-11-may-2023/35679
[15:05] <vorlon> mateus-morais: I think your status went to the last discourse post, not this week's
[15:06] <xypron> o/
[15:06] <mateus-morais> Yep, fixed it already :)
[15:07] <vorlon> aha ok
[15:07] <bdmurray> "man in hat sits on chair" - lol
[15:08] <vorlon> haha
[15:10] <vorlon> everybody had enough time?
[15:10] <vorlon> #topic Release incoming bugs
[15:10] <vorlon> #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ll-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs
[15:10] <bdmurray> I made -mm- yesterday
[15:11] <vorlon> LP: #2012698
[15:11] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 2012698 in plymouth (Ubuntu) "Plymouth is stuck on a plain black screen" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2012698
[15:11] <dviererbe> this? https://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-mm-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs
[15:12] <bdmurray> indeed
[15:12] <vorlon> bdmurray: thanks, should I drop -ll- from the script going forward?
[15:12] <bdmurray> Well we might need to do some SRUs there
[15:12] <vorlon> ok
[15:12] <slyon> looks like vanvugt is taking care of that plymouth bug
[15:12] <vorlon> yeah the above is a class of issue usually handled in the Desktop Team, nothing for us
[15:13] <vorlon> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-mm-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs
[15:13] <vorlon> #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-mm-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs
[15:13] <vorlon> LP: #2016471
[15:13] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 2016471 in eztrace (Ubuntu) "eztrace FTBFS with LTO" [Undecided, In Progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2016471
[15:13] <slyon> I created that one..
[15:14] <slyon> I'd like the toolchain squad to have a look into it. libomp.so is broken when llvm-toolchain is built with LTO
[15:14] <vorlon> slyon: do you expect the fix to be on the eztrace side? that's the task you have in progress
[15:14] <vorlon> ah
[15:14] <slyon> the upstream maintainer of eztrace suggested there might be a workaround possible in the upstream project, but didn't get back to be about it yet
[15:14] <vorlon> that seems like an appropriate thing for us to take
[15:14] <vorlon> shall I target it?
[15:15] <vorlon> (doing)
[15:15] <slyon> so either reaching out to trahay about a eztrace fix or fixing llvm-toolchain are appropriate
[15:16] <vorlon> there may be other packages affected by libomp though
[15:16] <vorlon> (or other third-party projects)
[15:16] <vorlon> LP: #2018721
[15:16] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 2018721 in netkit-telnet-ssl (Ubuntu) "[MIR] netkit-telnet-ssl vs. inetutils-telnet" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2018721
[15:16] <slyon> dviererbe: can you comment on that ^
[15:17] <dviererbe> Well I put the summary in the LP ticket
[15:20] <vorlon> my $.02 is that there aren't advantages that are worth the switching costs
[15:21] <vorlon> dviererbe: are you ok with us declining it on that basis?
[15:22] <dviererbe> yeah, works for me. I just wanted to have a discussion about investigating this.
[15:22] <vorlon> ok thanks
[15:24] <vorlon> #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-jj-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs
[15:24] <vorlon> LP: #1999345
[15:24] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 1999345 in grub2 (Ubuntu) "please add luks2 module to the signed grub2 images" [Undecided, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1999345
[15:25] <vorlon> there've been discussions about this internally; I'm a strong -1 on us including this in the signed images
[15:25] <vorlon> because the GRUB LUKS implementation is always trailing the userspace
[15:26] <vorlon> and currently the gaps are that it doesn't support currently-recommended key derivation
[15:26] <vorlon> juliank isn't here to argue for it, but I would just decline this one
[15:26] <vorlon> (and let him reopen it if there are other arguments)
[15:27] <vorlon> any objections?
[15:27] <slyon> sounds good. we have been waiting for any action on that one for too long
[15:28] <juliank> My watch made brr with IRC notification! I'm +1
[15:28] <vorlon> hah
[15:28] <vorlon> #link https://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs
[15:29] <vorlon> LP: #2015355
[15:29] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 2015355 in util-linux (Ubuntu) "Please backport patches for false atari partition detection to Ubuntu 20.04" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2015355
[15:29] <vorlon> this was escalated internally to us
[15:29] <bdmurray> Do we need to keep looking at Focal given Jammy is the latest LTS?
[15:30] <vorlon> based on support team's input I would say yes it's worth fixing
[15:30] <vorlon> or do you mean looking at the report in general for FF?
[15:30] <bdmurray> The report in general but I guess if we didn't we wouldn't have known about this. ;-)
[15:30] <vorlon> right
[15:30] <enr0n> I am planning on working that one, bdmurray pinged me about it before the sprint
[15:31] <vorlon> I mean, we did have the internal discussion, but that's different than ensuring it's tracked
[15:31] <vorlon> so I'll go ahead and target this one
[15:32] <vorlon> ok that's it for bugs
[15:32] <vorlon> let's see if I can speed things up a bit from here :)
[15:32] <vorlon> #topic Team proposed-migration report
[15:33] <vorlon> #link https://ubuntu-archive-team.ubuntu.com/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs
[15:33] <vorlon> dviererbe: would you mind looking at git? hopefully just needs a retry of linux-lowlatency/arm64 autopkgtest
[15:34] <dviererbe> I can do that
[15:34] <vorlon> argon2 vs cryptsetup: I've looked at this before, argon2 declares versioned breaks: on cryptsetup so this needs solved by a cryptsetup merge.  Any volunteers?
[15:34] <vorlon> bdrung did the last merge but he's not here today
[15:35] <vorlon> adrien: maybe you?
[15:35] <vorlon> if not, I could take it
[15:35] <vorlon> fakeroot: enr0n?
[15:35] <enr0n> vorlon: sure
[15:36] <vorlon> pygments: ogayot?
[15:36] <ogayot> vorlon: ack
[15:36] <adrien> vorlon: I can look at that
[15:36] <vorlon> and then that's it, because 7 was actually 5 because of the double counting of blocked/blocking
[15:36] <vorlon> adrien: thanks
[15:36] <vorlon> ah, 4
[15:37] <vorlon> sbuild also blocking postfix; I'll take that one, it's probably a britney hint issue
[15:38] <vorlon> yeah turns out that when postfix fails to configure on amd64 due to weird infra, all the autopkgtests of its reverse-dependencies fail
[15:38] <vorlon> #topic AOB
[15:38] <vorlon> anything else?
[15:39] <xypron> vorlon: postfix is what I previously looked at.
[15:39]  * vorlon nods
[15:39] <xypron> Should I try to create a patch for that one.
[15:39] <ogayot> I'll be off next Thursday (national holiday) and Friday (swap day)
[15:39] <slyon> same for me ^
[15:40] <adrien> oh, already? I'm going to be away for half of the pulse actually
[15:41] <adrien> I'll be off both thursday and friday
[15:41] <zhsj> i'll be off next friday (swap day)
[15:42] <bdmurray> I'm out this afternoon and tomorrow
[15:43] <vorlon> I have another swap day to take but haven't committed to when
[15:43] <vorlon> around otherwise!
[15:43] <xypron> I have only Monday and Tuesday next week to work.
[15:44] <vorlon> any other other business?
[15:44] <vorlon> #endmeeting
[15:44] <meetingology> Meeting ended at 15:44:52 UTC.  Minutes at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2023/ubuntu-meeting.2023-05-11-15.04.moin.txt
[15:44] <vorlon> thanks, all!