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| cpaelzer | huhu | 14:29 |
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| dviererbe | Hello o/ | 14:30 |
| cpaelzer | #startmeeting Weekly Main Inclusion Requests status | 14:30 |
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| cpaelzer | Ping for MIR meeting - didrocks joalif slyon sarnold cpaelzer jamespage ( eslerm dviererbe ) | 14:30 |
| sarnold | good morning | 14:30 |
| jamespage | o/ | 14:30 |
| slyon | o/ | 14:31 |
| cpaelzer | #topic current component mismatches | 14:31 |
| cpaelzer | Mission: Identify required actions and spread the load among the teams | 14:31 |
| cpaelzer | #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches-proposed.svg | 14:31 |
| cpaelzer | #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches.svg | 14:31 |
| cpaelzer | nothing new in non-proposed | 14:31 |
| cpaelzer | hmm | 14:32 |
| slyon | geoip looks new | 14:32 |
| slyon | is the server team tracking that? | 14:32 |
| cpaelzer | nginx -> geoip sounds familiar | 14:32 |
| cpaelzer | I think we changed to geoip2 two cycles back | 14:32 |
| cpaelzer | I'll take care to check what is going on | 14:32 |
| cpaelzer | I see that openstack started on jaraco | 14:32 |
| cpaelzer | and then there is transmission | 14:33 |
| cpaelzer | Desktop package | 14:33 |
| sarnold | mantic-proposed has a 'drop geoip' in the changelog https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nginx/+changelog -- it might solve itself in a few days? :) | 14:33 |
| cpaelzer | didrocks isn't here today to use his Desktop connections, seb128 isn#t her eeither | 14:34 |
| cpaelzer | pinging jbicha if there is any known context on transmission | 14:34 |
| sarnold | * Switch back to gtk4, now that the previous upload migrated. | 14:34 |
| sarnold | the MIR of gtkmm4.0 is planned. | 14:34 |
| jbicha | it's still on my todo list to file the MIRs for gtkmm4.0 (& related pkgs) | 14:34 |
| cpaelzer | ok, we are happy to wait | 14:34 |
| sarnold | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/transmission/+changelog -- this one looksl ike the tip of the iceberg for new work, heh | 14:35 |
| cpaelzer | sarnold: on geoip - the changelog has this under dropped changes | 14:35 |
| cpaelzer | sarnold: "[No longer required due to Debian packaging split]" | 14:35 |
| sarnold | cpaelzer: oh! | 14:35 |
| cpaelzer | sarnold: but it seems that didn't fully work, chances are something is now split and meant to migrate to universe | 14:35 |
| cpaelzer | I'll talk with bryce | 14:35 |
| cpaelzer | ok | 14:36 |
| cpaelzer | that means we are ok with all findings in mismatches today | 14:36 |
| cpaelzer | #topic New MIRs | 14:36 |
| cpaelzer | Mission: ensure to assign all incoming reviews for fast processing | 14:36 |
| cpaelzer | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&assignee_option=none&field.assignee=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir | 14:36 |
| cpaelzer | one new | 14:36 |
| cpaelzer | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dhcpcd5/+bug/2019191 | 14:36 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 2019191 in dhcpcd5 (Ubuntu) "[MIR] dhcpcd5" [Undecided, New] | 14:36 | |
| slyon | this will be the (future) replacement for isc-dhcp-client | 14:37 |
| cpaelzer | Anyone able to do the review and not having Thu (and probably Fri) off due to public holiday in a lot of central europe? | 14:37 |
| * slyon abstains, due to it being a Foundations package | 14:38 | |
| cpaelzer | yeah, I guess I can take one - but due to said public holiday it will be somewhen next week | 14:38 |
| cpaelzer | #topic Incomplete bugs / questions | 14:38 |
| cpaelzer | Mission: Identify required actions and spread the load among the teams | 14:38 |
| cpaelzer | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir | 14:38 |
| cpaelzer | some updates on duktape, but not yet ready to be acted on | 14:39 |
| cpaelzer | nothing else in this list yet | 14:39 |
| cpaelzer | #topic Process/Documentation improvements | 14:39 |
| cpaelzer | Mission: Review pending process/documentation pull-requests or issues | 14:39 |
| cpaelzer | #link https://github.com/canonical/ubuntu-mir/pulls | 14:39 |
| cpaelzer | #link https://github.com/canonical/ubuntu-mir/issues | 14:39 |
| cpaelzer | just my re-review topic which we can handle in AOB | 14:40 |
| cpaelzer | nothing else in those lists | 14:40 |
| cpaelzer | #topic MIR related Security Review Queue | 14:40 |
| cpaelzer | Mission: Check on progress, do deadlines seem doable? | 14:40 |
| cpaelzer | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-security/+bugs?field.searchtext=%5BMIR%5D&assignee_option=choose&field.assignee=ubuntu-security&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir | 14:40 |
| cpaelzer | Internal link | 14:40 |
| cpaelzer | - ensure your teams items are prioritized among each other as you'd expect | 14:40 |
| cpaelzer | - ensure community requests do not get stomped by teams calling for favors too much | 14:40 |
| cpaelzer | #link https://warthogs.atlassian.net/jira/software/c/projects/SEC/boards/594 | 14:40 |
| cpaelzer | sarnold: this is the time to make progress on those items not being pressing issues | 14:40 |
| cpaelzer | sarnold: because in a month or two the list will be dominated by "I NEED THIS" items | 14:40 |
| cpaelzer | sarnold: so how is current velocity on reviews looking? | 14:41 |
| * cpaelzer checks #security channel for distractions of sarnold ... | 14:42 | |
| sarnold | cpaelzer: heh, no progress lately; there has been some ongoing work on the tooling to try to improve the tooling. one current hurdle is that our coverity license has expired, and re-signing that contract is stuck somewhere; people are poking and prodding even while on vacation :/ | 14:42 |
| cpaelzer | oh | 14:43 |
| sarnold | there's enough folks on post-sprint recovery and lss and so on that we're not yet at full force | 14:43 |
| cpaelzer | so without this license, is review fully blocked ? | 14:43 |
| cpaelzer | or just "less good" | 14:43 |
| sarnold | not completely, but it is enough of a hurdle to be obnoxious | 14:43 |
| cpaelzer | ok, thanks for the FYI | 14:43 |
| cpaelzer | #topic Any other business? | 14:43 |
| cpaelzer | as last week - just https://github.com/canonical/ubuntu-mir/pull/17 | 14:44 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Pull 17 in canonical/ubuntu-mir "add re-reviews to the MIR process" [Open] | 14:44 | |
| cpaelzer | thanks for your feedback so far | 14:44 |
| cpaelzer | I know I need to create a good way to find those old bugs | 14:44 |
| cpaelzer | but other than that everyone seems happy so far | 14:44 |
| cpaelzer | any other feedback or request for change that didn#t make it into thr github PR? | 14:45 |
| sarnold | I think I forgot to mention a pal's spell checking action https://www.check-spelling.dev/ | 14:45 |
| sarnold | if we wanted to keep the spelling in good order, this might be worth dropping in | 14:45 |
| sarnold | but if we make so few changes and spelling doesn't *really* matter, it's just nice to have, it might not be worth the ongoing cost | 14:46 |
| cpaelzer | is that free to activate without pain? | 14:46 |
| dviererbe | *creating a bookmark* | 14:46 |
| sarnold | I think so, but I'm not actually well-versed in github actions; I think it's 'just' a matter of cloning the repo, dropping a .github/ directory thingy in place, pushing it, and letting the bot do the rest | 14:46 |
| cpaelzer | I'll have a look | 14:47 |
| cpaelzer | thanks | 14:47 |
| dviererbe | I can investigate this. I have some experience with github actions | 14:47 |
| slyon | here's a template: https://github.com/check-spelling/spell-check-this | 14:47 |
| cpaelzer | thanks dviererbe for the volunteering | 14:48 |
| cpaelzer | I guess you can fork and experiment there, and once you know how open a PR and/or contact me to get things done in the main repo? | 14:48 |
| dviererbe | I'll do that | 14:49 |
| sarnold | woot, thanks :) | 14:49 |
| cpaelzer | I'll take the todo that slyon gave me to add the "old MIR bug" query | 14:49 |
| cpaelzer | and thereby, the agenda of today is at the end | 14:49 |
| cpaelzer | anything else? | 14:49 |
| sarnold | nothing from me | 14:49 |
| sarnold | except a gigantic curiosity how that 'old mir bug' query will work | 14:49 |
| slyon | nothing, thanks! | 14:50 |
| cpaelzer | sarnold: magic :-) | 14:50 |
| sarnold | I don't have a clue how I'd even start tackling it, if it were my todo :) | 14:50 |
| sarnold | :D | 14:50 |
| slyon | (it's not just "old MIR bug", there might be packages without any bug | 14:50 |
| sarnold | probably about a thousand of them.. | 14:50 |
| cpaelzer | hehe | 14:50 |
| cpaelzer | the API isn't too bad | 14:50 |
| cpaelzer | of LP I mean | 14:50 |
| sarnold | I wasn't there, but my guess is the starting point was "what's installed on every one of elmo's computers" :) | 14:51 |
| cpaelzer | It is most likely not a query, but a python program | 14:51 |
| cpaelzer | sarnold: that might have been true :-) | 14:51 |
| cpaelzer | but for today, let us close the meeting here | 14:51 |
| cpaelzer | have fun everyone! | 14:51 |
| sarnold | thanks cpaelzer, all; enjoy the long weekens, those who have them :) | 14:51 |
| cpaelzer | #endmeeting | 14:51 |
| meetingology | Meeting ended at 14:51:52 UTC. Minutes at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2023/ubuntu-meeting.2023-05-16-14.30.moin.txt | 14:51 |
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| seb128 | hey | 18:59 |
| * vorlon waves | 18:59 | |
| amurray | o/ | 19:00 |
| rbasak | o/ | 19:00 |
| vorlon | rbasak: calendar says you're chair? | 19:01 |
| rbasak | Oh, OK. | 19:01 |
| rbasak | #startmeeting Technical Board | 19:01 |
| meetingology | Meeting started at 19:01:33 UTC. The chair is rbasak. Information about MeetBot at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | 19:01 |
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| rbasak | #topic Action Review | 19:01 |
| rbasak | ACTION: amurray to follow up with backporters team on Mattia's draft charter proposal | 19:01 |
| rbasak | I think I've seen the followup. Did we get a reply? | 19:01 |
| vorlon | (fwiw sil2100 is out this week; didn't see an apology but not surprised he's not here) | 19:02 |
| amurray | re backporters - no not that I have seen | 19:02 |
| rbasak | Maybe another poke is appropriate? | 19:02 |
| amurray | I will ping them again later this week | 19:02 |
| rbasak | It'd be nice to see a conclusion on this. I wonder if it would be appropriate to set a deadline at some point, and if no reply then we just use the current draft and call it done. I wouldn't mind it being long eg. months, but it'd be nice to have _some_ end point. | 19:03 |
| rbasak | Thanks | 19:03 |
| rbasak | ACTION: seb128 to help draft an exception to the "must build on all architectures" requirement for snaps | 19:03 |
| rbasak | And related | 19:04 |
| rbasak | ACTION: seb128/amurray/sil200 to help drafting the snap-store Ubuntu-specific tracks usage | 19:04 |
| seb128 | no progress sorry :/ | 19:04 |
| rbasak | ACTION: rbasak to draft a proposal of the DMB-proposed inactivity expiration policy for TB ratification | 19:04 |
| rbasak | Same here, sorry | 19:04 |
| rbasak | ACTION: sil2100 to start a draft summarizing the OEM archive portion of the meeting which x-nox and TB will review, edit, and ratify before we move on to figuring out the next step | 19:04 |
| rbasak | He's out, so that will need to carry over too | 19:04 |
| seb128 | I hope to have more time for $things now that Lunar is out though | 19:04 |
| rbasak | Thanks! | 19:04 |
| rbasak | #topic Scan the mailing list archive for anything we missed (standing item) | 19:04 |
| rbasak | I see nothing relevant in April or May. | 19:05 |
| vorlon | there's a private email thread; I wonder if folks want to bring that topic public and discuss here? | 19:05 |
| rbasak | #info Nothing outstanding in recent ML posts | 19:06 |
| rbasak | I'm happy to discuss that publicly if others are | 19:06 |
| vorlon | (I just replied to it a half hour ago, so undertsandable if folks aren't current) | 19:06 |
| rbasak | I'd also be happy for my reply to be made public in its entirety. | 19:07 |
| rbasak | (so feel free to quote me from there in pubilc, etc) | 19:07 |
| vorlon | seb128: ? | 19:07 |
| seb128 | sorry, I was busy reading vorlon's reply on that discussion :p | 19:08 |
| vorlon | :) | 19:08 |
| vorlon | fwiw my specific email wasn't drafted for public consumption so please don't quote it, but addressing the content is fine | 19:08 |
| seb128 | I'm also fine discussing it in public | 19:08 |
| seb128 | I wonder if now is right though, we got 3 replies since yesterday unsure if everyone had time to read/digest those | 19:09 |
| vorlon | ack, I'm certainly fine to defer | 19:10 |
| amurray | I'm fine to discuss it in public but I wonder if perhaps let's finish up the existing conversation privately then we can document the outcome publicly? | 19:10 |
| rbasak | To make progress, how about we give each other a couple of weeks to raise any objections to discussing the topic publicly? After that time, maybe we can effectively replay the thread but publicly. | 19:10 |
| seb128 | wfm | 19:10 |
| amurray | +1 | 19:11 |
| vorlon | +1 | 19:12 |
| rbasak | fwiw my specific email wasn't drafted for public consumption> yeah I agree since it referred to specific individuals and that maybe shouldn't be made public (just for anyone following along) | 19:12 |
| rbasak | #topic Check up on community bugs and techboard bugs | 19:13 |
| rbasak | #info No new community bug activity | 19:13 |
| rbasak | #topic Select a chair for the next meeting | 19:13 |
| rbasak | We're going alphabetically, right? So seb128 next with vorlon as backup? | 19:14 |
| vorlon | sounds good | 19:14 |
| seb128 | ack | 19:14 |
| rbasak | #info seb128 will chair next, with vorlon as backup | 19:14 |
| rbasak | #topic AOB | 19:14 |
| rbasak | AOB? | 19:14 |
| vorlon | nothing here | 19:15 |
| rbasak | #info No OB | 19:15 |
| rbasak | #endmeeting | 19:15 |
| meetingology | Meeting ended at 19:15:58 UTC. Minutes at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2023/ubuntu-meeting.2023-05-16-19.01.moin.txt | 19:15 |
| rbasak | o/ | 19:15 |
| amurray | thanks for chairing rbasak | 19:16 |
| seb128 | thanks! | 19:16 |
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