=== philroche_ is now known as philroche [14:29] huhu [14:30] Hello o/ [14:30] #startmeeting Weekly Main Inclusion Requests status [14:30] Meeting started at 14:30:27 UTC. The chair is cpaelzer. Information about MeetBot at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology [14:30] Available commands: action, commands, idea, info, link, nick [14:30] Ping for MIR meeting - didrocks joalif slyon sarnold cpaelzer jamespage ( eslerm dviererbe ) [14:30] good morning [14:30] o/ [14:31] o/ [14:31] #topic current component mismatches [14:31] Mission: Identify required actions and spread the load among the teams [14:31] #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches-proposed.svg [14:31] #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches.svg [14:31] nothing new in non-proposed [14:32] hmm [14:32] geoip looks new [14:32] is the server team tracking that? [14:32] nginx -> geoip sounds familiar [14:32] I think we changed to geoip2 two cycles back [14:32] I'll take care to check what is going on [14:32] I see that openstack started on jaraco [14:33] and then there is transmission [14:33] Desktop package [14:33] mantic-proposed has a 'drop geoip' in the changelog https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nginx/+changelog -- it might solve itself in a few days? :) [14:34] didrocks isn't here today to use his Desktop connections, seb128 isn#t her eeither [14:34] pinging jbicha if there is any known context on transmission [14:34] * Switch back to gtk4, now that the previous upload migrated. [14:34] the MIR of gtkmm4.0 is planned. [14:34] it's still on my todo list to file the MIRs for gtkmm4.0 (& related pkgs) [14:34] ok, we are happy to wait [14:35] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/transmission/+changelog -- this one looksl ike the tip of the iceberg for new work, heh [14:35] sarnold: on geoip - the changelog has this under dropped changes [14:35] sarnold: "[No longer required due to Debian packaging split]" [14:35] cpaelzer: oh! [14:35] sarnold: but it seems that didn't fully work, chances are something is now split and meant to migrate to universe [14:35] I'll talk with bryce [14:36] ok [14:36] that means we are ok with all findings in mismatches today [14:36] #topic New MIRs [14:36] Mission: ensure to assign all incoming reviews for fast processing [14:36] #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&assignee_option=none&field.assignee=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir [14:36] one new [14:36] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dhcpcd5/+bug/2019191 [14:36] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 2019191 in dhcpcd5 (Ubuntu) "[MIR] dhcpcd5" [Undecided, New] [14:37] this will be the (future) replacement for isc-dhcp-client [14:37] Anyone able to do the review and not having Thu (and probably Fri) off due to public holiday in a lot of central europe? [14:38] * slyon abstains, due to it being a Foundations package [14:38] yeah, I guess I can take one - but due to said public holiday it will be somewhen next week [14:38] #topic Incomplete bugs / questions [14:38] Mission: Identify required actions and spread the load among the teams [14:38] #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir [14:39] some updates on duktape, but not yet ready to be acted on [14:39] nothing else in this list yet [14:39] #topic Process/Documentation improvements [14:39] Mission: Review pending process/documentation pull-requests or issues [14:39] #link https://github.com/canonical/ubuntu-mir/pulls [14:39] #link https://github.com/canonical/ubuntu-mir/issues [14:40] just my re-review topic which we can handle in AOB [14:40] nothing else in those lists [14:40] #topic MIR related Security Review Queue [14:40] Mission: Check on progress, do deadlines seem doable? [14:40] #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-security/+bugs?field.searchtext=%5BMIR%5D&assignee_option=choose&field.assignee=ubuntu-security&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir [14:40] Internal link [14:40] - ensure your teams items are prioritized among each other as you'd expect [14:40] - ensure community requests do not get stomped by teams calling for favors too much [14:40] #link https://warthogs.atlassian.net/jira/software/c/projects/SEC/boards/594 [14:40] sarnold: this is the time to make progress on those items not being pressing issues [14:40] sarnold: because in a month or two the list will be dominated by "I NEED THIS" items [14:41] sarnold: so how is current velocity on reviews looking? [14:42] * cpaelzer checks #security channel for distractions of sarnold ... [14:42] cpaelzer: heh, no progress lately; there has been some ongoing work on the tooling to try to improve the tooling. one current hurdle is that our coverity license has expired, and re-signing that contract is stuck somewhere; people are poking and prodding even while on vacation :/ [14:43] oh [14:43] there's enough folks on post-sprint recovery and lss and so on that we're not yet at full force [14:43] so without this license, is review fully blocked ? [14:43] or just "less good" [14:43] not completely, but it is enough of a hurdle to be obnoxious [14:43] ok, thanks for the FYI [14:43] #topic Any other business? [14:44] as last week - just https://github.com/canonical/ubuntu-mir/pull/17 [14:44] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Pull 17 in canonical/ubuntu-mir "add re-reviews to the MIR process" [Open] [14:44] thanks for your feedback so far [14:44] I know I need to create a good way to find those old bugs [14:44] but other than that everyone seems happy so far [14:45] any other feedback or request for change that didn#t make it into thr github PR? [14:45] I think I forgot to mention a pal's spell checking action https://www.check-spelling.dev/ [14:45] if we wanted to keep the spelling in good order, this might be worth dropping in [14:46] but if we make so few changes and spelling doesn't *really* matter, it's just nice to have, it might not be worth the ongoing cost [14:46] is that free to activate without pain? [14:46] *creating a bookmark* [14:46] I think so, but I'm not actually well-versed in github actions; I think it's 'just' a matter of cloning the repo, dropping a .github/ directory thingy in place, pushing it, and letting the bot do the rest [14:47] I'll have a look [14:47] thanks [14:47] I can investigate this. I have some experience with github actions [14:47] here's a template: https://github.com/check-spelling/spell-check-this [14:48] thanks dviererbe for the volunteering [14:48] I guess you can fork and experiment there, and once you know how open a PR and/or contact me to get things done in the main repo? [14:49] I'll do that [14:49] woot, thanks :) [14:49] I'll take the todo that slyon gave me to add the "old MIR bug" query [14:49] and thereby, the agenda of today is at the end [14:49] anything else? [14:49] nothing from me [14:49] except a gigantic curiosity how that 'old mir bug' query will work [14:50] nothing, thanks! [14:50] sarnold: magic :-) [14:50] I don't have a clue how I'd even start tackling it, if it were my todo :) [14:50] :D [14:50] (it's not just "old MIR bug", there might be packages without any bug [14:50] probably about a thousand of them.. [14:50] hehe [14:50] the API isn't too bad [14:50] of LP I mean [14:51] I wasn't there, but my guess is the starting point was "what's installed on every one of elmo's computers" :) [14:51] It is most likely not a query, but a python program [14:51] sarnold: that might have been true :-) [14:51] but for today, let us close the meeting here [14:51] have fun everyone! [14:51] thanks cpaelzer, all; enjoy the long weekens, those who have them :) [14:51] #endmeeting [14:51] Meeting ended at 14:51:52 UTC. Minutes at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2023/ubuntu-meeting.2023-05-16-14.30.moin.txt === ebarretto_ is now known as ebarretto [18:59] hey [18:59] * vorlon waves [19:00] o/ [19:00] o/ [19:01] rbasak: calendar says you're chair? [19:01] Oh, OK. [19:01] #startmeeting Technical Board [19:01] Meeting started at 19:01:33 UTC. The chair is rbasak. Information about MeetBot at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology [19:01] Available commands: action, commands, idea, info, link, nick [19:01] #topic Action Review [19:01] ACTION: amurray to follow up with backporters team on Mattia's draft charter proposal [19:01] I think I've seen the followup. Did we get a reply? [19:02] (fwiw sil2100 is out this week; didn't see an apology but not surprised he's not here) [19:02] re backporters - no not that I have seen [19:02] Maybe another poke is appropriate? [19:02] I will ping them again later this week [19:03] It'd be nice to see a conclusion on this. I wonder if it would be appropriate to set a deadline at some point, and if no reply then we just use the current draft and call it done. I wouldn't mind it being long eg. months, but it'd be nice to have _some_ end point. [19:03] Thanks [19:03] ACTION: seb128 to help draft an exception to the "must build on all architectures" requirement for snaps [19:04] And related [19:04] ACTION: seb128/amurray/sil200 to help drafting the snap-store Ubuntu-specific tracks usage [19:04] no progress sorry :/ [19:04] ACTION: rbasak to draft a proposal of the DMB-proposed inactivity expiration policy for TB ratification [19:04] Same here, sorry [19:04] ACTION: sil2100 to start a draft summarizing the OEM archive portion of the meeting which x-nox and TB will review, edit, and ratify before we move on to figuring out the next step [19:04] He's out, so that will need to carry over too [19:04] I hope to have more time for $things now that Lunar is out though [19:04] Thanks! [19:04] #topic Scan the mailing list archive for anything we missed (standing item) [19:05] I see nothing relevant in April or May. [19:05] there's a private email thread; I wonder if folks want to bring that topic public and discuss here? [19:06] #info Nothing outstanding in recent ML posts [19:06] I'm happy to discuss that publicly if others are [19:06] (I just replied to it a half hour ago, so undertsandable if folks aren't current) [19:07] I'd also be happy for my reply to be made public in its entirety. [19:07] (so feel free to quote me from there in pubilc, etc) [19:07] seb128: ? [19:08] sorry, I was busy reading vorlon's reply on that discussion :p [19:08] :) [19:08] fwiw my specific email wasn't drafted for public consumption so please don't quote it, but addressing the content is fine [19:08] I'm also fine discussing it in public [19:09] I wonder if now is right though, we got 3 replies since yesterday unsure if everyone had time to read/digest those [19:10] ack, I'm certainly fine to defer [19:10] I'm fine to discuss it in public but I wonder if perhaps let's finish up the existing conversation privately then we can document the outcome publicly? [19:10] To make progress, how about we give each other a couple of weeks to raise any objections to discussing the topic publicly? After that time, maybe we can effectively replay the thread but publicly. [19:10] wfm [19:11] +1 [19:12] +1 [19:12] fwiw my specific email wasn't drafted for public consumption> yeah I agree since it referred to specific individuals and that maybe shouldn't be made public (just for anyone following along) [19:13] #topic Check up on community bugs and techboard bugs [19:13] #info No new community bug activity [19:13] #topic Select a chair for the next meeting [19:14] We're going alphabetically, right? So seb128 next with vorlon as backup? [19:14] sounds good [19:14] ack [19:14] #info seb128 will chair next, with vorlon as backup [19:14] #topic AOB [19:14] AOB? [19:15] nothing here [19:15] #info No OB [19:15] #endmeeting [19:15] Meeting ended at 19:15:58 UTC. Minutes at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2023/ubuntu-meeting.2023-05-16-19.01.moin.txt [19:15] o/ [19:16] thanks for chairing rbasak [19:16] thanks!