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David_HedlundHow do I submit a feature request for update-manager?01:04
sarnoldubuntu-bug update-manager   is probably the best starting point01:05
David_Hedlundsarnold: Thank you, then I did it correctly.01:07
David_Hedlundsarnold: I just added this message:      Maintainers: Please change the "Importance" to "Wishlist"01:07
sarnoldwoot01:07
David_Hedlundsarnold: Here's the bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/202014001:08
-ubottu:#ubuntu-devel- Launchpad bug 2020140 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "Feature request: List executed commands in 'Details'" [Undecided, New]01:08
sarnoldman, I can't find my way around that code .. but I have a suspicion that what you want might not actually exist; it's possible that this is executing API calls rather than running programs01:13
David_Hedlundsarnold: Oh, that's useful. Can you please comment that in the bug URL?01:17
David_Hedlundsarnold: Excellent!01:36
sarnold:D01:37
clearyHi folks, I'm working on ubuntu 22.04 and attempting to create a 32 bit debootstrap tarball for pbuilder. It's failing because the dependency for aptitude cannot be satisfied (no 32 bit build) - is there a way for me to do debootstrap without aptitude?03:59
clearythe command I'm running: linux32 sudo pbuilder create --configfile /etc/pbuilder/pbuilderrc.jammy.i38603:59
clearythe file looks like: https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/xx3fwBJJkB/03:59
cleary(ps I asked in #ubuntu, they suggested a more development oriented channel)04:00
clearyI had a dig through the pbuilder /usr/lib files, there is mention of an "apt flavor" and an "aptitude flavor" but I can't find any info on how to pick and choose04:01
Unit193PBUILDERSATISFYDEPENDSCMD=/usr/lib/pbuilder/pbuilder-satisfydepends-apt to use apt instead.04:03
clearyamazing, thankyou - I will give it a try :)04:04
cleary@Unit193 it works... I've been banging my head against a wall for about an hour on this one, thankyou so much for saving further damage04:08
Unit193Haha, you're very welcome!04:10
Unit193cleary: FWIW, there's a manpage for pdebuild, pbuilder, and pbuilderrc.  That only shows up in the last one...04:10
clearyah thanks, I nitpicked through the pbuilder page - lesson learnt ;)04:12
Unit193The apt solver has quirks, but given what you're working on they likely won't matter.04:14
clearyI'm building cups with some upstream patches, it's going well so far04:18
clearythe reason for which I need 32 bit cups is ugly ugly ugly. I won't be upset if it turns out to be impossible04:18
Unit193hah. :)04:19
clearyUnit193: thanks for the help, I have a successful build, and a rekindled appreciation for irc!04:40
Unit193\o/04:43
wouterbdmurray: I can definitely do that, yes. Should I send it to the same bug report?08:02
wouterbdmurray: debdiff sent. Is that all I need to do?09:02
wouterokay, so I re-read the sponsorship, and subscribed the ubuntu-sponsors group12:09
wouterhopefully this will be dealt with "soon".12:09
wouterif not, meh, I don't use Ubuntu myself, so, ¯\_(ツ)_/¯12:10
ItzSwirlzvorlon: what would be best for cinnamon and pulseaudio, just drop the recommends?16:25
vorlonItzSwirlz: you should certainly drop the recommends: for cinnamon to pulseaudio, yes.  For blueman, as I said you should consult the Debian maintainer to decide the best path forward16:26
ItzSwirlztechnically i am part of the cinnamon maintainers in debian but school16:27
ItzSwirlzcan it be changed this close to bookworm?16:27
vorlonis blueman maintained by cinnamon?16:27
ItzSwirlzoh blueman; no16:27
vorloncan it be changed> sure, it just won't migrate to bookworm16:27
ItzSwirlzill open pr's16:28
ItzSwirlzactually ill need to send emails because i dont know if debian cinnamon should switch to pipewire16:30
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