[04:33] <ball> Is Lubuntu still considered lighter than vanilla (Gnome?) Ubuntu?
[04:46] <zxmpi> yes
[04:50] <ball> Thanks.
[04:50] <ball> Might try that on my son's "new" PC.
[04:51] <zxmpi> Lubuntu requires a 700 MHz Single processor. Ubuntu a 2 GHz dual processor.
[04:51] <zxmpi> As memory is specified in Lubuntu 512 MB. In the case of Ubuntu 2 GB.
[04:51] <zxmpi> Lubuntu requires 5 GB of hard disk space. Ubuntu 25 GB.
[04:52] <zxmpi> https://technical-tips.com/blog/software/lubuntu-or-ubuntu-all-of-23380
[04:53] <ball> Ws that written today or just edited?
[04:56] <ball> Oh wait, it mentions 16.04 as current and Unity, which I think has its own flavour now.
[05:03] <zxmpi> huh i searched for only in the last year, sorry for that
[05:04] <ball> No problem.  Weirdly it had today's date on the page.
[05:05] <ball> Still useful content though.
[05:05] <ball> I'm guessing Gnome uses 3D hardware for the compositor as Unity did?
[05:10] <ball> I'll read more on this later.  I'm downloading Lubuntu 23.04 now...
[05:10] <ball> zxmpi: Thanks for the help.
[20:17] <ball> I get constant "System program problem detected" pop-ups when I'm trying to install Ubuntu 23.04.
[20:18] <penguin42> ball: a 'dmesg' might show why
[20:18] <daftykins> does it prevent it from completing? why non-LTS?
[20:22] <ball> daftykins: I did consider LTS.  It's what I'd use for the office.
[20:23] <ball> Might try Lubuntu instead.  Would have gone with Raspbian but that's only 32-bit on the desktop PC.
[20:24] <ball> This is my son's first desktop PC.
[20:24] <ball> (I hope to inherit his Raspberry Pi 400)
[20:25] <ball> Sort of wish Lubuntu had a "minimal install" option like Ubuntu has though.
[20:25] <daftykins> it's implemented backwards such that it's quicker not to use though xD
[20:26] <ball> Not quicker and still needs plenty of elbow room on the disk to install things and then remove them, I'm told;
[20:26] <daftykins> precisely
[20:28] <ball> I broke out a new SSD for him. That, the case and PSU are new (and the CPU cooler).
[20:29] <ball> ...everything else is from the scrap shelf.
[20:29] <ball> (which might explain the errors)
[20:30] <daftykins> well what does dmesg say? :)
[20:30] <daftykins> don't leave us in suspense!
[20:37] <ball> daftykins: I don't know yet.  I've already reimaged the USB flash drive and we're trying to install Lubuntu.
[20:40] <ball> ...seems to be working better.
[20:41] <daftykins> of course the media checker should have helped spot any quirks on the first
[20:58] <ball> I'll be back later.