| RikMills | santa_: yes, I am aware of that. annoying but I tend to be pragmatic and only diverge to fix things when breakage actually seems likely or occurs | 04:51 |
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| * RikMills shrugs | 04:51 | |
| RikMills | anyone fancy looking at how to get Kubuntu working n the new installer this cycle? | 04:52 |
| RikMills | https://github.com/canonical/ubuntu-flavor-installer | 04:52 |
| RikMills | santa_: also made new packaging repos for itinerary, angelfish, ghostwriter, kongress, kosmindoormap, ktrip, qmlkonsole | 06:36 |
| RikMills | i.e. new tars in gear that already exist synced from debian | 06:36 |
| -queuebot:#kubuntu-devel- Builds: Kubuntu Desktop amd64 [Mantic Daily] has been updated (20230523) | 08:09 | |
| santa_ | RikMills: this thing, for example: https://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/kmailtransport/commit/?id=711abb1a609bff0763ed2d69c551bb5e8906539d | 10:25 |
| -ubottu:#kubuntu-devel- Commit 711abb1 in ~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/kmailtransport "Partial sync with debian to match plugin package names and new file placements" | 10:25 | |
| santa_ | that is not bieng pragmatic, that is importing an RC bug from debian | 10:25 |
| santa_ | s/bieng/being/ | 10:25 |
| santa_ | also, they realized later and corrected it | 10:26 |
| santa_ | regarding the "only diverge to fix things when breakage actually seems likely or occurs" <- this should include fixing debian policy 8.2 violations | 10:27 |
| santa_ | because these massive violations of poliocy 8.2 are precisely what are making the 23.04 upgrade so difficult for apt | 10:29 |
| RikMills[m] | if that and similar are causing issues, then of course they should be fixed | 10:32 |
| santa_ | the thing with 8.2 violations is this: | 10:33 |
| santa_ | - it's like drugs, it's easy to get in, not so easy to get out | 10:33 |
| santa_ | - initially, when you get it, there's no big deal apparently | 10:34 |
| santa_ | - then, some time later, you will face the consequences | 10:34 |
| santa_ | and we are in this 3rd point | 10:35 |
| RikMills[m] | fair enough. if you have reasonable fixes, then I am likely to be fine with that | 10:38 |
| santa_ | yes, one thing I would like you to understand: there is no actual fix for this complicated upgrade | 10:48 |
| santa_ | it's going to be complicated, because we can't travel back in the past | 10:49 |
| santa_ | but we can make sure this doesn't happen again :) | 10:49 |
| RikMills[m] | ok | 10:50 |
| BluesKaj | Hi all | 12:38 |
| IrcsomeBot | <RikMills> https://twitter.com/kdecommunity/status/1660590634518863874 | 13:02 |
| mparillo | I just zsync'd the daily MM ISO for the first time since Thursday. I got: used 5411258368 local, fetched 0 Is it possible there have been no changes to the ISO since then? | 13:16 |
| RikMills | I think the server is having issues | 13:30 |
| RikMills | it is very very slow, and erroring out frequently | 13:31 |
| santa_ | RikMills: thanks a lot for creating repos for some of the new apps, I've just updated ka-metadata and discovered a couple of corner-case crashes in KA | 20:29 |
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