|N3on21| | Hello How can I keep the same password on my remote ubuntu client after reboot... It changes after every reboot. | 06:54 |
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tjaalton | who's the maintainer of chromium snap? | 07:36 |
nteodosio | tjaalton, nteodosio | 07:37 |
tjaalton | nteodosio: hi :) | 07:37 |
nteodosio | hey :) I just saw the mesa bug | 07:37 |
tjaalton | ah good, was just about to let you know | 07:37 |
tjaalton | so this is an upstream issue afaik | 07:38 |
nteodosio | tjaalton, while the issue isn't fixed upstream would it make sense as a stopgap measure to simply remove GPUCache at every launch? | 07:52 |
nteodosio | It seems that all reporters are on Chrome itself though, so we couldn't do that there. | 07:56 |
tjaalton | yeah clearing the cache would be fine I think | 07:59 |
lissyx | jbicha, I still dont see a libmutter-12 on lunar-proposed | 08:50 |
lissyx | https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libmutter-12-0 | 08:50 |
lissyx | only lunar-updates | 08:50 |
duflu | Is packages.ubuntu.com meant to show proposed? It's visible on https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mutter | 09:44 |
ogra | you can probably ask the community person that runs it to include proposed | 09:47 |
ogra | IIRC there is a bug report button at the bottom | 09:47 |
ogra | (beyond that it is "Rhoda", active in #ubuntu-motu if you want a more direct conversation) | 09:47 |
duflu | That was really an answer. Not a question | 09:47 |
ogra | oh, heh ... sorry, missed the backlog | 09:48 |
KGB-0 | gnome-software signed tags 81b053b Jeremy Bicha upstream/44.2 * Upstream version 44.2 * https://deb.li/H26y | 12:15 |
KGB-2 | gnome-software pristine-tar 262fb70 Amin Bandali gnome-software_44.2.orig.tar.xz.delta gnome-software_44.2.orig.tar.xz.id * pristine-tar data for gnome-software_44.2.orig.tar.xz * https://deb.li/3onW2 | 12:15 |
KGB-0 | gtk4 ubuntu/master e08b880 Till Kamppeter debian/ control control.in rules * Switch from the CUPS print backend to CPDB * https://deb.li/3kbqd | 13:13 |
KGB-0 | gtk4 ubuntu/master f4fdadb Jeremy Bicha debian/ control control.in * Depend on cpdb-backend-cups * https://deb.li/iWnwV | 13:13 |
lissyx | well I have lunar-proposed enabled, I see the package in "apt-cache policy libmutter-12-0" but it's not updating to it so I guess a dep is missing? | 13:33 |
jbicha | lissyx: Starting with 22.10, proposed updates aren't installed by default even when enabled | 14:04 |
lissyx | ok | 14:04 |
lissyx | that's weird but why not | 14:04 |
lissyx | any setting to change back the behavior? | 14:05 |
lissyx | I dont really like having to "apt install -t lunar-proposed | 14:05 |
jbicha | generally, people just want to test a specific fix they are interested in and not everything that needs verification | 14:05 |
lissyx | that's some way of seeing it, I was more looking at "early beta tester" but no problem | 14:08 |
lissyx | so no setting to change back? | 14:08 |
jbicha | What I do is steps 1-3 from https://jeremy.bicha.net/2022/03/29/how-to-install-a-bunch-of-debs/ | 14:10 |
jbicha | for step 2, it's pull-lp-debs mutter lunar-proposed (you'll also want gnome-shell & gtk4 for this update) | 14:11 |
lissyx | that makes things really complicated :( | 14:12 |
jbicha | it's a little more reliable that -t lunar-proposed because it ensures I get the other packages built from source instead of just the main package | 14:14 |
jbicha | than | 14:14 |
jbicha | Correction, from reading the ubuntu-devel list, it looks like this change was new for 23.04 | 14:14 |
jbicha | I don't know how to undo the behavior change on your computer | 14:16 |
jbicha | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/EnableProposed explains one way to opt into that behavior but it hasn't been updated to show how to opt out after the default behavior changed | 14:16 |
chiluk | Is anyone else getting really strange artifacting after recent updates? I fear their may be a regression in mesa, but I'm not sure how to prove that. | 15:07 |
jbicha | chiluk: what version of Ubuntu are you using? | 15:14 |
chiluk | jbicha... I'm on jammy. | 15:14 |
chiluk | yeah looks like all my mesa related libraries were updated to 22.2.5-0ubuntu0.1~22.04.2 this morning. | 15:15 |
nteodosio | chiluk, where do you see the problem? | 15:15 |
chiluk | the only other thing my system upgrade was the kernel, but I've already rolled the kernel back to 6.1.0-1012-oem | 15:15 |
chiluk | nteodosio: mostly in chrome | 15:15 |
nteodosio | We have bug 2020604 | 15:16 |
-ubottu:#ubuntu-desktop- Bug 2020604 in chromium-browser (Ubuntu) "After mesa upgrades, Chrome won't show graphics" [Undecided, Fix Committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2020604 | 15:16 | |
nteodosio | Yeah that's it | 15:16 |
chiluk | yep that's probably it. | 15:16 |
nteodosio | Well just try --disable-gpu for now. | 15:16 |
chiluk | yuck... why aren't you folks just rolling back the mesa upgrade? | 15:17 |
chiluk | it basically makes chrome pretty unusable. | 15:17 |
chiluk | graphics not showing up at all.. | 15:17 |
nteodosio | I don't know the decision process for Mesa. | 15:19 |
nteodosio | I rebuilt Chromium with a workaround (on --candidate), but of course Google Chrome is not under our control. | 15:20 |
chiluk | I'd have to look at the changes, but shipping a library change that breaks applications is typically a big no-no. @tjaalton what's the plan here? | 15:22 |
chiluk | I'm catching up on the ticket, what's the right solution to this? Do we need to get changes in chromium to better handle mesa updates? | 15:28 |
tjaalton | chiluk: even a no-change rebuild of mesa would invalidate the cache because GL_RENDERER string changes | 16:47 |
tjaalton | chiluk, jbicha: the mesa update wil be pulled out from updates for now | 16:52 |
ahasenack | in lunar, chrome, chrome://gpu shows GL_RENDERER=ANGLE (Intel, Mesa Intel(R) Graphics (ADL GT2), OpenGL 4.6 (Core Profile) Mesa 23.0.2) | 16:53 |
ahasenack | so a mesa version bump, even a patch-level one, would change that string? | 16:54 |
tjaalton | apparently, this seems to affect all distros | 16:57 |
tjaalton | hmm | 16:58 |
tjaalton | there's probably something else then, that string doesn't change actually | 16:59 |
tjaalton | but it would change after booting a new kernel, though it was tested that mesa revert fixed it | 17:01 |
KGB-2 | gtk4 signed tags f8662a8 Jeremy Bicha ubuntu/4.10.3+ds-1ubuntu3 * gtk4 Debian release 4.10.3+ds-1ubuntu3 * https://deb.li/3S3Cg | 18:31 |
chiluk | tjaalton in case you weren't already aware the clearing cache workaround seems to have resolved at least my issue. I just with there was some way we could automate this. | 19:41 |
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