| oerheks | nothing, you have firefox now | 00:00 |
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| David_Hedlund | No I don't | 00:00 |
| oerheks | so you are in the ubuntu desktop gui now? or still on commandline, no gui? | 00:01 |
| oerheks | i am sure you have firefox now, as snap | 00:01 |
| oerheks | snap list | 00:04 |
| David_Hedlund | I'm in GNOME. But first of all. I cannot run `apt-get update` in GNOME which is unexpected, because I could run it before I installed GNOME | 00:04 |
| David_Hedlund | oerheks: snad list: bare, core20, gtk-common-themes, lxd, snapd | 00:05 |
| David_Hedlund | snap list* | 00:06 |
| oerheks | what happens when you try? pastebin the output please | 00:06 |
| oerheks | weird, your first post says firefox is installed as snap. | 00:06 |
| David_Hedlund | oerheks: snap list: http://rafb.ath.cx/pastes/2BpxaO76.html | 00:07 |
| David_Hedlund | oerheks: No, I tried to install it but it failed | 00:07 |
| David_Hedlund | Because GNOME cannot access the internet | 00:07 |
| oerheks | why not? | 00:09 |
| oerheks | that would be the root of your problem... | 00:09 |
| David_Hedlund | oerheks: Fresh install so I have no idea | 00:10 |
| oerheks | me too, as you seem to be able to pastebin | 00:11 |
| David_Hedlund | oerheks: Oh, that's from my host computer. I'm experimenting with VMs | 00:12 |
| oerheks | fix your networking, maybe on your host? | 00:13 |
| David_Hedlund | oerheks: The internet worked fine in the VM before I installed GNOME in it. | 00:14 |
| David_Hedlund | This is not a VM issue at all | 00:14 |
| oerheks | then this excperiment failed, try again fresh? | 00:16 |
| oerheks | maybe better to use the desktop iso as a starter? | 00:16 |
| David_Hedlund | oerheks: I'm trying to learn how to start from Ubuntu Server as I've already learned the basics from Ubuntu and Ubuntu MATE. | 00:17 |
| David_Hedlund | /usr/share/doc/netplan/examples/static.yaml is unmodified | 00:20 |
| oerheks | those are docs, why would that get modified? | 00:21 |
| oerheks | it is not an active config | 00:21 |
| David_Hedlund | sorry, I pasted the wrong file, I'm a bit tired. | 00:21 |
| David_Hedlund | The "Network" GUI does not list a "Wired" entry | 00:23 |
| David_Hedlund | "Settings -> Network" | 00:24 |
| David_Hedlund | gnome-control-center | 00:25 |
| David_Hedlund | gnome-control-center -> Network does not list a "Wired" entry | 00:25 |
| David_Hedlund | oerheks | 00:33 |
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| JanC | David_Hedlund: IIRC the Gnome control center will only show network interfaces that are managed by network-manager; as you came from a server then possibly your wired connection was/is configured by netplan instead? | 14:06 |
| JanC | (why install gnome on a server anyway?) | 14:08 |
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| David_Hedlund | JanC: Oh. Never mind. I can run apt-get update now. The internet is working again. I don't know why it was down before. | 16:52 |
| David_Hedlund | apt-get update is working fine. But I'm curious to learn why I cannot install transitional snap packages. Please see http://rafb.ath.cx/pastes/pdwlB657.html JanC | 16:54 |
| sdeziel | David_Hedlund: your connection is being reset in ^. Should you be using a proxy? | 16:57 |
| David_Hedlund | sdeziel: Why do I need that? | 16:58 |
| sdeziel | David_Hedlund: I'm not saying you need one, just asking if you are aware of such requirement in your environment. Looks like the answer is no ;) | 16:59 |
| David_Hedlund | sdeziel: Oh, yeah. | 17:00 |
| sdeziel | David_Hedlund: does it work when you try to snap install directly `sudo snap install chromium` ? | 17:04 |
| David_Hedlund | sdeziel: Yes it does. I tried it earlier. However, I don't want to run into apt issues later, so I rather solve this or file a bug report. | 17:05 |
| sdeziel | David_Hedlund: maybe apt is using a proxy? `grep -riF proxy /etc/apt/` should tell you | 17:06 |
| David_Hedlund | sdeziel: No output from that command, thanks. | 17:11 |
| sdeziel | David_Hedlund: hmm, puzzling cause apparently apt can make http connections and snapd can make https connections just fine but apt cannot do https connections | 17:12 |
| David_Hedlund | sdeziel: Do you have a chance to evaluate a VM? | 17:13 |
| David_Hedlund | sdeziel: I'm using virt-manager to quickly clone Ubuntu Server VMs that I modify and evaluate. | 17:14 |
| ravage | David_Hedlund: https://ubuntu.com/tutorials/how-to-launch-an-instantly-functional-linux-desktop-vm-with-lxd#1-overview | 17:15 |
| ravage | maybe that is a good way for your tests | 17:15 |
| JanC | many APT mirrors (as well as the official repos) don't support HTTPS | 17:17 |
| JanC | (or some APT mirrors, I don't know what the current state is) | 17:17 |
| sdeziel | JanC: the pastebin shows the chromium deb wrapper was used to pull in the snap version of chromium | 17:17 |
| sdeziel | JanC: so the deb was fetched over HTTP fine but the inner `snap install` got a TCP reset | 17:18 |
| JanC | then it's not APT but Snap, right? | 17:19 |
| sdeziel | but then a direct `snap install` worked which lead me to thing of a "leaked" http_proxy env by apt but apparently no | 17:19 |
| sdeziel | s/thing/think/ | 17:19 |
| JanC | is snap in a Snap now? | 17:20 |
| sdeziel | I think so | 17:20 |
| ravage | snap is basically snapd. which is a snap yes :) | 17:20 |
| sdeziel | snapd is a shipped as a deb but that fetches the snapd snap ;) | 17:20 |
| JanC | maybe something is going wrong there... | 17:21 |
| David_Hedlund | ravage: Thank you. | 17:21 |
| David_Hedlund | JanC, sdeziel: Solved with `sudo apt --fix-missing update` | 17:27 |
| sdeziel | David_Hedlund: hmm, I don't get it but cool | 17:27 |
| David_Hedlund | I'll try to reproduce it in another VM clone. | 17:28 |
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