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dabblerI want to install Ubuntu into an empty subvolume of an existing btrfs filesystem within a LUKS container. I have a bootable thumb drive of the 23.04 legacy installer ISO. I've decrypted the LUKS in another tty. Is there a way to achieve what I want using hidden options to the installer and/or virtual block devices, chroot, or something else?01:42
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dabblerNobody seeing this knows?03:27
hinowhat did you ask03:32
hinoWhat should lunar sources list as at default look like-i've messed with mine and wish to return to default state. Is using this list safe?03:36
hinohttps://gist.github.com/hakerdefo/9c99e140f543b5089e32176fe8721f5f03:36
hinoDISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 23.04"03:37
hinoplanning on making a bup b4 i change anything-just curious about what the default looks like; what lines; which uncommented?03:38
a-cheng??????ubuntu???????,???2019 ????ari14IWL03:44
a-cheng?????03:44
Bashing-omhino: There is a example sources.list file >> /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list .03:51
hinoty Bashing-om03:54
Bashing-omhino: :D Pleased to help.03:55
dabblerI want to install Ubuntu into an empty subvolume of an existing btrfs fs within LUKS. I have a bootable thumb drive of the 23.04 legacy installer ISO. I've decrypted the LUKS in another tty. Is there a way to achieve what I want using hidden options to the installer and/or "fake" block devices, chroot, or something else?04:06
dabblerhino: ?04:11
dabblerCan anyone tell me whether this is still accurate with respect to the Ubuntu legacy installer's behavior? https://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/2dvokd/comment/cjufq5h/05:58
dabblerThe legacy installer for 23.04 is hanging on "removing conflicting operating system files" on my machine. I see reports of this problem going back 11 years.08:43
dabblerThe few "solutions" I see involve not pointing the installer to an existing /home. I'm not.08:44
paophello. Given somelib.so, is there a way to find corresponding deb package(s) which use it? The package is not necessarily installed on my system09:12
ograpaop, sudo apt install apt-file; sudo apt-file update; apt-file search libfoo1.2-3.so09:25
paopogra I see thanks09:25
malwinaHello, hello  I install a laptop for my friend : would he ever need ny other repository then main, restricted, universe, multiverse ( the ones which are enabled by default???)09:46
tarzeaumalwina: tak09:48
malwinaso what to install else ?09:49
tarzeaumalwina: nothing09:51
tarzeaumalwina: i usually also install stacer cool-retro-term htop screen zsh # and a bunch of other things, but depends what he wants to do?09:52
malwinaoki thanks09:52
weedmicI am reviewing some audit requirements.  I have this one and cannot think of how the "rationale" is possible.  Can anyone present a scenario - https://www.tenable.com/audits/items/CIS_Debian_Linux_9_Workstation_v1.0.1_L1.audit:76d3fa4994467b61dc320182c1ba734f10:28
weedmicalso, isn't root always gid 0?10:30
malwinaI installed wine , but no icon in the menu application shows up ... what's up  ?10:38
malwinaI can only type from the terminal wine .... but that's nt10:39
malwinanot nice*10:39
tarzeauweedmic: normally is10:39
tarzeauif you type "nice wine" it's nicer? normally wine takes takes an argument to launch. should be easy to write your own .desktop file for it taking arguments10:41
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Wistful1It looks like Snaps are not getting updates. In particular Gnome devs are not updating their apps on Snap store. Do they want Ubuntu users to use Fedora?11:04
tarzeaumore like they want them to use Debian!11:04
Wistful1Either way they need to update their apps or just remove them.11:06
Wistful1I am testing Fedora in a VM, and it is consuming more RAM than Ubuntu. **sigh**11:06
tarzeaudebian updates their apps (aka packages)11:07
Wistful1Tweaked Gnome on Ubuntu is slightly better than latest Gnome on Fedora.11:07
tarzeauwhich fedora version, kernel version? using zram or without? doing what?11:07
tarzeaufrom 100 machines i've got 2 leaking memory (gnome-shell)11:07
Wistful1F38, Kernel 6.xx without zram. It's plain testing of my development environment on Fedora. Running my git repos, testing firefox, a bit of few more browsers.11:09
Wistful1I cannot forget Gnome memory leaks back in 2017/18-> 17.10 or 18.04 as much I remember and they way Canonical fixed it.11:10
tarzeauedge? chromium? google-chrome? something else? which? as ff as deb or snap?11:10
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Wistful1FF as snap.11:12
weedmicyou can find out which apps are snap with "snap -list"11:27
jhutchinstarzeau: You are managing 100 Linux desktops?12:40
tarzeaujhutchins: no, 32012:43
tarzeaujhutchins: i just picked 100 because then you can say 2%12:43
tarzeaujhutchins: but it's like 800 active users. avg installed packages is 4k, these two are very helpful:12:44
tarzeauhttps://github.com/alexmyczko/ruptime12:44
tarzeauhttps://github.com/alexmyczko/autoexec.bat/tree/master/config.sys12:45
tarzeaujhutchins: how many for you?12:45
jhutchinstarzeau: About 1500, but all servers, no desktops (except my own).13:00
jhutchinstarzeau: Past tence, retired now.13:00
tarzeaujhutchins: well mine are partly multi user desktops in the serverroom so, not sure if it's server or desktop13:01
tarzeaujhutchins: nice. what field? what did the servers had to do? and anything special you can tell about?13:01
jhutchinstarzeau: Nothing particularly special.  One was a specialized publishing company.  Industrial journals like Aviation Week.13:02
jhutchinstarzeau: The other processed citizen interactions with state governments, including payments of licenses and fees.13:02
tarzeaunice, if you into aviation check out: https://www.aiei.ch/airports/ and https://www.flickr.com/photos/aiei/sets/72157650144744776/with/24400951973/13:02
jhutchinstarzeau: Yours?13:02
tarzeauscience, ethz.ch d-phys, + d-baug, + d-biol13:03
jhutchinstarzeau: Ah, labs?13:03
tarzeauhttps://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=gurkan%40phys.ethz.ch13:03
tarzeaunot only, offices, and labs as well yes. very interesting labs (expensive)13:03
tarzeaustarted with 10mbit+100mbit and linux (before did solaris), 32-bit, then came 64bit and meanwhile after gbit, 10gbit and 100gbit13:04
tarzeaulike back 18 years ago disks were very slow and well 128 gb, meanwhile we're using 20 tb disks and/or nvme/ssd combinations or jbods 80gb. production data 4 pt, backup 4 pt (a bit less due compression)13:05
jhutchinsI think we've drifted off-topic here.  Nice to hear about what you're doing though.13:05
tarzeauah an it's nice to have 256 cores, 2 tb memory...13:05
tarzeauand well gpus. A100, 4090, 3080, 2080, 1080 and A6000, A5500 single up to 813:06
tarzeautrue13:06
tarzeaujhutchins: if you want to post: https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/enterprise-desktop-usage-ubuntu-advantage/2741713:07
torrkiHi, i need help with Ubuntu. How can i schedule some tasks weekly?14:25
leftyfbtorrki: https://opensource.com/article/20/7/systemd-timers14:26
torrkithanks14:26
nsaundersI'm trying to install featherwallet which is an appimage.  Now, do I need to install something first?15:54
iorialibfuse2 probably15:55
jhutchinsWhat are the current support sources for certbot/letsencrypt?15:56
oerhekssnap, i guess https://snapcraft.io/certbot15:56
nsaundersioria: thx15:57
ioriaok15:57
jhutchinsI wouldn't expect a certbot issue to be covered by snap support, but I'll look.15:57
oerheksoh, that kind of support , github says the page15:58
oerhekshttps://github.com/certbot/certbot/issues15:58
jhutchinsYeah, that's what I got from the snap page.  Again, development/package support, not so much user support.15:59
jhutchinsThe system appears to be working correctly, but needs maintenance/cleanup.16:00
ograwell, certbot is a classic snap ... thats pretty much just a tarball on steroids with some fancy bells and whistles ... not much "packaging"16:00
ogra(i.e. te snap system doesnt have much impact in classic mode execpt being the delivery mechanism ... think any stuff you'd extract to /opt ... just with rollback features etc)16:02
jhutchinsRight, so package support is not what I need, I need operational support.16:02
jhutchinsClearly beyond the topic of this channel, but it appears that they shut down their irc channel in 2018.16:03
jhutchinsSo I'm actually looking for someone with actual knowledge of operational support for certbot.16:04
oerheksthey have an unofficial channel here, maybe on an other network too?16:04
jhutchinsoerheks: Haven't found it yet.  Supposedly there's a discourse forum, I'll see where that gets me.16:04
oerheks#certbot16:05
jhutchinsoerheks: Correct.16:05
nsaundershow do I install  libxcb-cursor.so.0    ?  Looking to install the feather wallet for monero.16:40
oerheks!find libxcb-cursor.so16:41
ubottuFile libxcb-cursor.so found in libxcb-cursor-dev, libxcb-cursor016:41
oerheks!info libxcb-cursor016:41
ubottulibxcb-cursor0 (0.1.1-4ubuntu1, lunar): utility libraries for X C Binding -- cursor. In component universe, is extra. Built by xcb-util-cursor. Size 11 kB / 39 kB16:41
oerheksmake sure you have universe enabled16:41
nsaundersoerheks: thx16:42
oerheksxcb-util-cursor16:42
nsaundersE: Unable to locate package xcb-util-cursor16:44
nsaundershmm, I think that I have universe enabled on apt16:44
oerhekswhat happens when you try libxcb-cursor0 ?16:46
oerheksdoes it pull in others?16:46
nsaunderslibxcb-cursor0 is already the newest version (0.1.1-4ubuntu1).16:49
nsaundersno, libxcb-cursor0 doesn't pull in anything else.16:50
oerhekswhy would that appimage need those packages16:51
oerhekshttps://featherwallet.org/files/releases/linux-appimage/feather-2.4.9.AppImage16:51
nsaundersI don't know.  I'll try the AppImage as above.16:52
nsaundersxcb-util-cursor-0.1.3-15.fc3716:52
nsaundersFedoraProject.org16:52
nsaundershttps://packages.fedoraproject.org > pkgs > fedora-3716:52
nsaundersView xcb-util-cursor-0.1.3-15.fc37 in Fedora 37. xcb-util-cursor: Cursor library ... libxcb-cursor.so.0()(64bit); xcb-util-cursor; xcb-util-cursor(x86-64) ...16:52
nsaundersUbuntu 20.04 xcb16:52
nsaundersJetBrains16:52
oerheks.. wrong channel, we are ubuntu16:53
goddardwhat is linux-image-5.15.0-1026-nvidia17:31
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goddardis this linux kernel with nvidia included stuff?17:32
goddardwhat is linux-image-5.15.0-1026-nvidia17:32
oerheksSupports Nvidia processors.17:34
oerheksGeared toward desktop and server systems.You likely do not want to install this package directly.17:34
oerheksInstead, install the linux-nvidia meta-package, which will ensure that upgrades work correctly, and that supporting packages are also installed.17:34
goddardahh makes sense17:34
goddardi tried the low latency kernel on a server to see if it would make any difference on a nodejs app17:35
oerhekshttps://git.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-nvidia/log/?h=ubuntu/jammy17:35
goddardno difference at all17:35
oerheksit is a testing package, not in production17:35
oerheksyou would not get it automaticly17:35
goddardi had a not very nice person do this to my server17:58
goddardhttps://paste.ubuntu.com/p/trgB2NPSY5/17:58
goddardany ideas how i can/should repair?17:58
goddardattempting to install package gives this18:00
goddardhttps://paste.ubuntu.com/p/XmtkX2FkR8/18:00
leftyfbgoddard: your first paste tells you what to run to fix the issue:  sudo apt --fix-broken install18:01
goddardit fails18:01
goddardsame error as my second link18:02
leftyfbgoddard: why do you need the lowlatency kernel and linux-tools-common?18:02
goddardi dont need them any more18:02
goddardi didn't install this18:02
goddardthis is just the mess i am left with18:02
goddardi can't uninstall it either18:03
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leftyfbgoddard: sudo apt remove --purge linux-image-lowlatency linux-tools-common linux-intel-iotg-tools-common18:03
goddardsame error18:04
oerheksstill the same issue as days ago?18:04
goddardtelling me to fix broken18:04
goddardshould i use -f18:05
leftyfbsudo apt remove --purge linux-image-lowlatency linux-tools-common linux-intel-iotg-tools-common 2>&1 | tee -a /tmp/apt.log && cat /tmp/apt.log | nc termbin.com 999918:05
oerheksboot in an older kernel? dunno ,..18:05
goddarddont believe me :D18:06
goddardhttps://termbin.com/tiim18:06
goddardsame as second link i posted truly18:06
leftyfbgoddard: sudo apt remove --purge linux-image-lowlatency linux-tools-common linux-intel-iotg-tools-common linux-lowlatency-tools18:07
oerheks 35 not upgraded .. time to do that first?18:07
goddardnothing works18:07
goddardcant upgrade can't uninstall cant install anything18:07
leftyfbsudo apt remove --purge linux-image-lowlatency linux-tools-common linux-intel-iotg-tools-common linux-lowlatency-tools 2>&1 | tee -a /tmp/apt.log && cat /tmp/apt.log | nc termbin.com 999918:07
leftyfbwe'll keep moving along at each package it complains about18:07
goddardhttps://termbin.com/ihk018:08
leftyfbgoddard: sudo apt remove --purge linux-lowlatency* linux-tools-common18:09
leftyfbgoddard: what release of ubuntu is this?18:09
oerhekslinux-intel-iotg-tools-common .. that was the package you had trouble with a few days ago?18:09
goddardno i never talked about this perviously18:10
goddardmaybe it was the guy that did this18:10
goddardhaha18:10
oerheksno, it was you18:10
goddardnope18:10
oerheksfunny, our package is called linux-intel-iotg-5.15-tools-common18:11
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goddardmaybe i can reboot into the non-low latency kernel and then remove this?18:19
goddardi dont think i have ever tried to uninstall a kernel i cam currently using18:20
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goddardhave to edit grub or something?18:20
leftyfbdon't do any of that18:20
leftyfbgoddard: sudo apt remove --purge linux-intel-iotg-tools-common linux-nvidia-5.19-tools-common linux-nvidia-tools-common linux-tools-common linux-image-lowlatency linux-lowlatency-tools18:22
goddardsame error unfortunately18:22
leftyfbgoddard: it's still complaining about linux-lowlatency-tools ?18:23
goddardyep18:23
goddardi never had an issue like this before18:23
leftyfbgoddard: what release of ubuntu is this?18:23
oerheksthat would be in the 35 updates waiting..18:24
goddard22.0418:24
goddardi looked at his history and he used aptitude if that makes a difference which i doubt18:26
leftyfbaptitude has been known to break things18:26
jacohello19:51
jacocan u recommend a speech recognition to word for me19:52
jacoCan you recommend a speech recognition to word for me?19:54
oerheksgoogle docs has that buildin, but requires a network connection https://www.debugpoint.com/speech-recognition-to-text-in-linux-ubuntu-using-google-docs19:56
oerhekselse look at these, none are perfect https://www.linuxlinks.com/best-free-linux-speech-recognition-tools-open-source-software/19:56
sarnoldjaco: try: "apt-cache search speech recognition" -- there's a handful of packages listed there, perhaps one will suit your needs"19:58
oerheksi played with simon, a huge learning curve19:59
jhutchinsCommercial voice recognition has gotten pretty good these days, I have no idea what software they're using.20:00
jhutchinsI worked with Dragon Dictate for a while a couple of days ago.20:01
goddardi dont know a method available right now but mycroft assistant may work20:06
goddardopen source and has a native kde plasma plugin20:07
oerheksoh mycroft is not in that list, good spot20:10
goddardi heard the company behind it isn't doing so good, but they did manage to release mark II20:15
goddardits a cool device but software does need more work20:16
goddardtheir infrastructure is pretty rad20:16
aymerichello ubuntu20:44
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OlManDocument scanner and "Failed to connect" Using Makulu linux... Based on Ubuntu LTS .. any help pls22:35
OlManbut i can see the ready to scan button22:36
OlManand can use the same maching to pring]22:36
OlManPrint22:36
DynamiteDanGreetings. I am trying to install dropbox on ubuntu 22.04 but I get this error: ropbox depends on libgtk-4-1 (>= 4.8.0); however:22:46
DynamiteDan  Version of libgtk-4-1:amd64 on system is 4.6.6+ds-0ubuntu1.22:46
DynamiteDanhow can I fix this?22:47
jhutchinsOlMan: It's a lot easier for us to troubleshoot if you'll install Ubuntu and see if you have the same problem with it.22:50
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jhutchinsDynamiteDan: What's the source of your dropbox package?  Sounds like conflicting architecture.22:51
ograDynamiteDan, looks like the package has not been built for 22.04 then ... ask at dropbox22:51
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OlManWOw Really... after a clean format and install of a Ubuntu LTS os.... why would i go through all that trouble if someone might know the fix22:51
ograOlMan, well, this is an ubuntu support channel ... how would we know what changes, hacks and modifications Makulu does ?22:52
OlManogra well thats true for sure but seriously, shouldnt the hardware be of a similar structure if it is based off Ubuntu ?22:53
ograOlMan, see the topic (especially the second half)22:53
OlManorga Not sure what you mean22:54
ogra"Unofficial derivatives: Use your distro's support channel, not here "22:54
OlMani see and thanks.. im new to all this and dont even know how to get to them ?22:54
ogralooks like they have https://www.makululinux.com/wp/forums/22:55
OlManso then dont have a live xchat ?22:55
ograno idea ... that above was the first hit on google for "makulu support" ... perhaps there is a chat if yu look around a little22:56
OlManorga  ok and thanks again.  never knew how much "learning" id have to do just to answer some questions lol.. have to learn how to look around now lol22:57
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luceneraI have an Xbox controller, which on Arch works perfectly and on Ubuntu 22.04 does not: the keys are mixed up.23:13
luceneraIs there anything I need to install/configure?23:14
WaVlucenera: antimicro may allow you to change the actions of the controller buttons23:31
WaVIt's what I use to bind keyboard keys to the controller's buttons23:32
akikwhy are mc and tigervnc updates coming from esm apps and not from the normal updates?23:57

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