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dabbler | I want to install Ubuntu into an empty subvolume of an existing btrfs filesystem within a LUKS container. I have a bootable thumb drive of the 23.04 legacy installer ISO. I've decrypted the LUKS in another tty. Is there a way to achieve what I want using hidden options to the installer and/or virtual block devices, chroot, or something else? | 01:42 |
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kotgc | test | 02:13 |
sarnold | pong | 02:14 |
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dabbler | Nobody seeing this knows? | 03:27 |
hino | what did you ask | 03:32 |
hino | What should lunar sources list as at default look like-i've messed with mine and wish to return to default state. Is using this list safe? | 03:36 |
hino | https://gist.github.com/hakerdefo/9c99e140f543b5089e32176fe8721f5f | 03:36 |
hino | DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 23.04" | 03:37 |
hino | planning on making a bup b4 i change anything-just curious about what the default looks like; what lines; which uncommented? | 03:38 |
a-cheng | ??????ubuntu???????,???2019 ????ari14IWL | 03:44 |
a-cheng | ????? | 03:44 |
Bashing-om | hino: There is a example sources.list file >> /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list . | 03:51 |
hino | ty Bashing-om | 03:54 |
Bashing-om | hino: :D Pleased to help. | 03:55 |
dabbler | I want to install Ubuntu into an empty subvolume of an existing btrfs fs within LUKS. I have a bootable thumb drive of the 23.04 legacy installer ISO. I've decrypted the LUKS in another tty. Is there a way to achieve what I want using hidden options to the installer and/or "fake" block devices, chroot, or something else? | 04:06 |
dabbler | hino: ? | 04:11 |
dabbler | Can anyone tell me whether this is still accurate with respect to the Ubuntu legacy installer's behavior? https://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/2dvokd/comment/cjufq5h/ | 05:58 |
dabbler | The legacy installer for 23.04 is hanging on "removing conflicting operating system files" on my machine. I see reports of this problem going back 11 years. | 08:43 |
dabbler | The few "solutions" I see involve not pointing the installer to an existing /home. I'm not. | 08:44 |
paop | hello. Given somelib.so, is there a way to find corresponding deb package(s) which use it? The package is not necessarily installed on my system | 09:12 |
ogra | paop, sudo apt install apt-file; sudo apt-file update; apt-file search libfoo1.2-3.so | 09:25 |
paop | ogra I see thanks | 09:25 |
malwina | Hello, hello I install a laptop for my friend : would he ever need ny other repository then main, restricted, universe, multiverse ( the ones which are enabled by default???) | 09:46 |
tarzeau | malwina: tak | 09:48 |
malwina | so what to install else ? | 09:49 |
tarzeau | malwina: nothing | 09:51 |
tarzeau | malwina: i usually also install stacer cool-retro-term htop screen zsh # and a bunch of other things, but depends what he wants to do? | 09:52 |
malwina | oki thanks | 09:52 |
weedmic | I am reviewing some audit requirements. I have this one and cannot think of how the "rationale" is possible. Can anyone present a scenario - https://www.tenable.com/audits/items/CIS_Debian_Linux_9_Workstation_v1.0.1_L1.audit:76d3fa4994467b61dc320182c1ba734f | 10:28 |
weedmic | also, isn't root always gid 0? | 10:30 |
malwina | I installed wine , but no icon in the menu application shows up ... what's up ? | 10:38 |
malwina | I can only type from the terminal wine .... but that's nt | 10:39 |
malwina | not nice* | 10:39 |
tarzeau | weedmic: normally is | 10:39 |
tarzeau | if you type "nice wine" it's nicer? normally wine takes takes an argument to launch. should be easy to write your own .desktop file for it taking arguments | 10:41 |
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Wistful1 | It looks like Snaps are not getting updates. In particular Gnome devs are not updating their apps on Snap store. Do they want Ubuntu users to use Fedora? | 11:04 |
tarzeau | more like they want them to use Debian! | 11:04 |
Wistful1 | Either way they need to update their apps or just remove them. | 11:06 |
Wistful1 | I am testing Fedora in a VM, and it is consuming more RAM than Ubuntu. **sigh** | 11:06 |
tarzeau | debian updates their apps (aka packages) | 11:07 |
Wistful1 | Tweaked Gnome on Ubuntu is slightly better than latest Gnome on Fedora. | 11:07 |
tarzeau | which fedora version, kernel version? using zram or without? doing what? | 11:07 |
tarzeau | from 100 machines i've got 2 leaking memory (gnome-shell) | 11:07 |
Wistful1 | F38, Kernel 6.xx without zram. It's plain testing of my development environment on Fedora. Running my git repos, testing firefox, a bit of few more browsers. | 11:09 |
Wistful1 | I cannot forget Gnome memory leaks back in 2017/18-> 17.10 or 18.04 as much I remember and they way Canonical fixed it. | 11:10 |
tarzeau | edge? chromium? google-chrome? something else? which? as ff as deb or snap? | 11:10 |
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Wistful1 | FF as snap. | 11:12 |
weedmic | you can find out which apps are snap with "snap -list" | 11:27 |
jhutchins | tarzeau: You are managing 100 Linux desktops? | 12:40 |
tarzeau | jhutchins: no, 320 | 12:43 |
tarzeau | jhutchins: i just picked 100 because then you can say 2% | 12:43 |
tarzeau | jhutchins: but it's like 800 active users. avg installed packages is 4k, these two are very helpful: | 12:44 |
tarzeau | https://github.com/alexmyczko/ruptime | 12:44 |
tarzeau | https://github.com/alexmyczko/autoexec.bat/tree/master/config.sys | 12:45 |
tarzeau | jhutchins: how many for you? | 12:45 |
jhutchins | tarzeau: About 1500, but all servers, no desktops (except my own). | 13:00 |
jhutchins | tarzeau: Past tence, retired now. | 13:00 |
tarzeau | jhutchins: well mine are partly multi user desktops in the serverroom so, not sure if it's server or desktop | 13:01 |
tarzeau | jhutchins: nice. what field? what did the servers had to do? and anything special you can tell about? | 13:01 |
jhutchins | tarzeau: Nothing particularly special. One was a specialized publishing company. Industrial journals like Aviation Week. | 13:02 |
jhutchins | tarzeau: The other processed citizen interactions with state governments, including payments of licenses and fees. | 13:02 |
tarzeau | nice, if you into aviation check out: https://www.aiei.ch/airports/ and https://www.flickr.com/photos/aiei/sets/72157650144744776/with/24400951973/ | 13:02 |
jhutchins | tarzeau: Yours? | 13:02 |
tarzeau | science, ethz.ch d-phys, + d-baug, + d-biol | 13:03 |
jhutchins | tarzeau: Ah, labs? | 13:03 |
tarzeau | https://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=gurkan%40phys.ethz.ch | 13:03 |
tarzeau | not only, offices, and labs as well yes. very interesting labs (expensive) | 13:03 |
tarzeau | started with 10mbit+100mbit and linux (before did solaris), 32-bit, then came 64bit and meanwhile after gbit, 10gbit and 100gbit | 13:04 |
tarzeau | like back 18 years ago disks were very slow and well 128 gb, meanwhile we're using 20 tb disks and/or nvme/ssd combinations or jbods 80gb. production data 4 pt, backup 4 pt (a bit less due compression) | 13:05 |
jhutchins | I think we've drifted off-topic here. Nice to hear about what you're doing though. | 13:05 |
tarzeau | ah an it's nice to have 256 cores, 2 tb memory... | 13:05 |
tarzeau | and well gpus. A100, 4090, 3080, 2080, 1080 and A6000, A5500 single up to 8 | 13:06 |
tarzeau | true | 13:06 |
tarzeau | jhutchins: if you want to post: https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/enterprise-desktop-usage-ubuntu-advantage/27417 | 13:07 |
torrki | Hi, i need help with Ubuntu. How can i schedule some tasks weekly? | 14:25 |
leftyfb | torrki: https://opensource.com/article/20/7/systemd-timers | 14:26 |
torrki | thanks | 14:26 |
nsaunders | I'm trying to install featherwallet which is an appimage. Now, do I need to install something first? | 15:54 |
ioria | libfuse2 probably | 15:55 |
jhutchins | What are the current support sources for certbot/letsencrypt? | 15:56 |
oerheks | snap, i guess https://snapcraft.io/certbot | 15:56 |
nsaunders | ioria: thx | 15:57 |
ioria | ok | 15:57 |
jhutchins | I wouldn't expect a certbot issue to be covered by snap support, but I'll look. | 15:57 |
oerheks | oh, that kind of support , github says the page | 15:58 |
oerheks | https://github.com/certbot/certbot/issues | 15:58 |
jhutchins | Yeah, that's what I got from the snap page. Again, development/package support, not so much user support. | 15:59 |
jhutchins | The system appears to be working correctly, but needs maintenance/cleanup. | 16:00 |
ogra | well, certbot is a classic snap ... thats pretty much just a tarball on steroids with some fancy bells and whistles ... not much "packaging" | 16:00 |
ogra | (i.e. te snap system doesnt have much impact in classic mode execpt being the delivery mechanism ... think any stuff you'd extract to /opt ... just with rollback features etc) | 16:02 |
jhutchins | Right, so package support is not what I need, I need operational support. | 16:02 |
jhutchins | Clearly beyond the topic of this channel, but it appears that they shut down their irc channel in 2018. | 16:03 |
jhutchins | So I'm actually looking for someone with actual knowledge of operational support for certbot. | 16:04 |
oerheks | they have an unofficial channel here, maybe on an other network too? | 16:04 |
jhutchins | oerheks: Haven't found it yet. Supposedly there's a discourse forum, I'll see where that gets me. | 16:04 |
oerheks | #certbot | 16:05 |
jhutchins | oerheks: Correct. | 16:05 |
nsaunders | how do I install libxcb-cursor.so.0 ? Looking to install the feather wallet for monero. | 16:40 |
oerheks | !find libxcb-cursor.so | 16:41 |
ubottu | File libxcb-cursor.so found in libxcb-cursor-dev, libxcb-cursor0 | 16:41 |
oerheks | !info libxcb-cursor0 | 16:41 |
ubottu | libxcb-cursor0 (0.1.1-4ubuntu1, lunar): utility libraries for X C Binding -- cursor. In component universe, is extra. Built by xcb-util-cursor. Size 11 kB / 39 kB | 16:41 |
oerheks | make sure you have universe enabled | 16:41 |
nsaunders | oerheks: thx | 16:42 |
oerheks | xcb-util-cursor | 16:42 |
nsaunders | E: Unable to locate package xcb-util-cursor | 16:44 |
nsaunders | hmm, I think that I have universe enabled on apt | 16:44 |
oerheks | what happens when you try libxcb-cursor0 ? | 16:46 |
oerheks | does it pull in others? | 16:46 |
nsaunders | libxcb-cursor0 is already the newest version (0.1.1-4ubuntu1). | 16:49 |
nsaunders | no, libxcb-cursor0 doesn't pull in anything else. | 16:50 |
oerheks | why would that appimage need those packages | 16:51 |
oerheks | https://featherwallet.org/files/releases/linux-appimage/feather-2.4.9.AppImage | 16:51 |
nsaunders | I don't know. I'll try the AppImage as above. | 16:52 |
nsaunders | xcb-util-cursor-0.1.3-15.fc37 | 16:52 |
nsaunders | FedoraProject.org | 16:52 |
nsaunders | https://packages.fedoraproject.org > pkgs > fedora-37 | 16:52 |
nsaunders | View xcb-util-cursor-0.1.3-15.fc37 in Fedora 37. xcb-util-cursor: Cursor library ... libxcb-cursor.so.0()(64bit); xcb-util-cursor; xcb-util-cursor(x86-64) ... | 16:52 |
nsaunders | Ubuntu 20.04 xcb | 16:52 |
nsaunders | JetBrains | 16:52 |
oerheks | .. wrong channel, we are ubuntu | 16:53 |
goddard | what is linux-image-5.15.0-1026-nvidia | 17:31 |
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goddard | is this linux kernel with nvidia included stuff? | 17:32 |
goddard | what is linux-image-5.15.0-1026-nvidia | 17:32 |
oerheks | Supports Nvidia processors. | 17:34 |
oerheks | Geared toward desktop and server systems.You likely do not want to install this package directly. | 17:34 |
oerheks | Instead, install the linux-nvidia meta-package, which will ensure that upgrades work correctly, and that supporting packages are also installed. | 17:34 |
goddard | ahh makes sense | 17:34 |
goddard | i tried the low latency kernel on a server to see if it would make any difference on a nodejs app | 17:35 |
oerheks | https://git.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-nvidia/log/?h=ubuntu/jammy | 17:35 |
goddard | no difference at all | 17:35 |
oerheks | it is a testing package, not in production | 17:35 |
oerheks | you would not get it automaticly | 17:35 |
goddard | i had a not very nice person do this to my server | 17:58 |
goddard | https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/trgB2NPSY5/ | 17:58 |
goddard | any ideas how i can/should repair? | 17:58 |
goddard | attempting to install package gives this | 18:00 |
goddard | https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/XmtkX2FkR8/ | 18:00 |
leftyfb | goddard: your first paste tells you what to run to fix the issue: sudo apt --fix-broken install | 18:01 |
goddard | it fails | 18:01 |
goddard | same error as my second link | 18:02 |
leftyfb | goddard: why do you need the lowlatency kernel and linux-tools-common? | 18:02 |
goddard | i dont need them any more | 18:02 |
goddard | i didn't install this | 18:02 |
goddard | this is just the mess i am left with | 18:02 |
goddard | i can't uninstall it either | 18:03 |
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leftyfb | goddard: sudo apt remove --purge linux-image-lowlatency linux-tools-common linux-intel-iotg-tools-common | 18:03 |
goddard | same error | 18:04 |
oerheks | still the same issue as days ago? | 18:04 |
goddard | telling me to fix broken | 18:04 |
goddard | should i use -f | 18:05 |
leftyfb | sudo apt remove --purge linux-image-lowlatency linux-tools-common linux-intel-iotg-tools-common 2>&1 | tee -a /tmp/apt.log && cat /tmp/apt.log | nc termbin.com 9999 | 18:05 |
oerheks | boot in an older kernel? dunno ,.. | 18:05 |
goddard | dont believe me :D | 18:06 |
goddard | https://termbin.com/tiim | 18:06 |
goddard | same as second link i posted truly | 18:06 |
leftyfb | goddard: sudo apt remove --purge linux-image-lowlatency linux-tools-common linux-intel-iotg-tools-common linux-lowlatency-tools | 18:07 |
oerheks | 35 not upgraded .. time to do that first? | 18:07 |
goddard | nothing works | 18:07 |
goddard | cant upgrade can't uninstall cant install anything | 18:07 |
leftyfb | sudo apt remove --purge linux-image-lowlatency linux-tools-common linux-intel-iotg-tools-common linux-lowlatency-tools 2>&1 | tee -a /tmp/apt.log && cat /tmp/apt.log | nc termbin.com 9999 | 18:07 |
leftyfb | we'll keep moving along at each package it complains about | 18:07 |
goddard | https://termbin.com/ihk0 | 18:08 |
leftyfb | goddard: sudo apt remove --purge linux-lowlatency* linux-tools-common | 18:09 |
leftyfb | goddard: what release of ubuntu is this? | 18:09 |
oerheks | linux-intel-iotg-tools-common .. that was the package you had trouble with a few days ago? | 18:09 |
goddard | no i never talked about this perviously | 18:10 |
goddard | maybe it was the guy that did this | 18:10 |
goddard | haha | 18:10 |
oerheks | no, it was you | 18:10 |
goddard | nope | 18:10 |
oerheks | funny, our package is called linux-intel-iotg-5.15-tools-common | 18:11 |
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goddard | maybe i can reboot into the non-low latency kernel and then remove this? | 18:19 |
goddard | i dont think i have ever tried to uninstall a kernel i cam currently using | 18:20 |
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goddard | have to edit grub or something? | 18:20 |
leftyfb | don't do any of that | 18:20 |
leftyfb | goddard: sudo apt remove --purge linux-intel-iotg-tools-common linux-nvidia-5.19-tools-common linux-nvidia-tools-common linux-tools-common linux-image-lowlatency linux-lowlatency-tools | 18:22 |
goddard | same error unfortunately | 18:22 |
leftyfb | goddard: it's still complaining about linux-lowlatency-tools ? | 18:23 |
goddard | yep | 18:23 |
goddard | i never had an issue like this before | 18:23 |
leftyfb | goddard: what release of ubuntu is this? | 18:23 |
oerheks | that would be in the 35 updates waiting.. | 18:24 |
goddard | 22.04 | 18:24 |
goddard | i looked at his history and he used aptitude if that makes a difference which i doubt | 18:26 |
leftyfb | aptitude has been known to break things | 18:26 |
jaco | hello | 19:51 |
jaco | can u recommend a speech recognition to word for me | 19:52 |
jaco | Can you recommend a speech recognition to word for me? | 19:54 |
oerheks | google docs has that buildin, but requires a network connection https://www.debugpoint.com/speech-recognition-to-text-in-linux-ubuntu-using-google-docs | 19:56 |
oerheks | else look at these, none are perfect https://www.linuxlinks.com/best-free-linux-speech-recognition-tools-open-source-software/ | 19:56 |
sarnold | jaco: try: "apt-cache search speech recognition" -- there's a handful of packages listed there, perhaps one will suit your needs" | 19:58 |
oerheks | i played with simon, a huge learning curve | 19:59 |
jhutchins | Commercial voice recognition has gotten pretty good these days, I have no idea what software they're using. | 20:00 |
jhutchins | I worked with Dragon Dictate for a while a couple of days ago. | 20:01 |
goddard | i dont know a method available right now but mycroft assistant may work | 20:06 |
goddard | open source and has a native kde plasma plugin | 20:07 |
oerheks | oh mycroft is not in that list, good spot | 20:10 |
goddard | i heard the company behind it isn't doing so good, but they did manage to release mark II | 20:15 |
goddard | its a cool device but software does need more work | 20:16 |
goddard | their infrastructure is pretty rad | 20:16 |
aymeric | hello ubuntu | 20:44 |
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OlMan | Document scanner and "Failed to connect" Using Makulu linux... Based on Ubuntu LTS .. any help pls | 22:35 |
OlMan | but i can see the ready to scan button | 22:36 |
OlMan | and can use the same maching to pring] | 22:36 |
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DynamiteDan | Greetings. I am trying to install dropbox on ubuntu 22.04 but I get this error: ropbox depends on libgtk-4-1 (>= 4.8.0); however: | 22:46 |
DynamiteDan | Version of libgtk-4-1:amd64 on system is 4.6.6+ds-0ubuntu1. | 22:46 |
DynamiteDan | how can I fix this? | 22:47 |
jhutchins | OlMan: It's a lot easier for us to troubleshoot if you'll install Ubuntu and see if you have the same problem with it. | 22:50 |
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jhutchins | DynamiteDan: What's the source of your dropbox package? Sounds like conflicting architecture. | 22:51 |
ogra | DynamiteDan, looks like the package has not been built for 22.04 then ... ask at dropbox | 22:51 |
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OlMan | WOw Really... after a clean format and install of a Ubuntu LTS os.... why would i go through all that trouble if someone might know the fix | 22:51 |
ogra | OlMan, well, this is an ubuntu support channel ... how would we know what changes, hacks and modifications Makulu does ? | 22:52 |
OlMan | ogra well thats true for sure but seriously, shouldnt the hardware be of a similar structure if it is based off Ubuntu ? | 22:53 |
ogra | OlMan, see the topic (especially the second half) | 22:53 |
OlMan | orga Not sure what you mean | 22:54 |
ogra | "Unofficial derivatives: Use your distro's support channel, not here " | 22:54 |
OlMan | i see and thanks.. im new to all this and dont even know how to get to them ? | 22:54 |
ogra | looks like they have https://www.makululinux.com/wp/forums/ | 22:55 |
OlMan | so then dont have a live xchat ? | 22:55 |
ogra | no idea ... that above was the first hit on google for "makulu support" ... perhaps there is a chat if yu look around a little | 22:56 |
OlMan | orga ok and thanks again. never knew how much "learning" id have to do just to answer some questions lol.. have to learn how to look around now lol | 22:57 |
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lucenera | I have an Xbox controller, which on Arch works perfectly and on Ubuntu 22.04 does not: the keys are mixed up. | 23:13 |
lucenera | Is there anything I need to install/configure? | 23:14 |
WaV | lucenera: antimicro may allow you to change the actions of the controller buttons | 23:31 |
WaV | It's what I use to bind keyboard keys to the controller's buttons | 23:32 |
akik | why are mc and tigervnc updates coming from esm apps and not from the normal updates? | 23:57 |
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