[01:42] <dabbler> I want to install Ubuntu into an empty subvolume of an existing btrfs filesystem within a LUKS container. I have a bootable thumb drive of the 23.04 legacy installer ISO. I've decrypted the LUKS in another tty. Is there a way to achieve what I want using hidden options to the installer and/or virtual block devices, chroot, or something else?
[02:13] <kotgc> test
[02:14] <sarnold> pong
[03:27] <dabbler> Nobody seeing this knows?
[03:32] <hino> what did you ask
[03:36] <hino> What should lunar sources list as at default look like-i've messed with mine and wish to return to default state. Is using this list safe?
[03:36] <hino> https://gist.github.com/hakerdefo/9c99e140f543b5089e32176fe8721f5f
[03:37] <hino> DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 23.04"
[03:38] <hino> planning on making a bup b4 i change anything-just curious about what the default looks like; what lines; which uncommented?
[03:44] <a-cheng> ??????ubuntu???????,???2019 ????ari14IWL
[03:44] <a-cheng> ?????
[03:51] <Bashing-om> hino: There is a example sources.list file >> /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list .
[03:54] <hino> ty Bashing-om
[03:55] <Bashing-om> hino: :D Pleased to help.
[04:06] <dabbler> I want to install Ubuntu into an empty subvolume of an existing btrfs fs within LUKS. I have a bootable thumb drive of the 23.04 legacy installer ISO. I've decrypted the LUKS in another tty. Is there a way to achieve what I want using hidden options to the installer and/or "fake" block devices, chroot, or something else?
[04:11] <dabbler> hino: ?
[05:58] <dabbler> Can anyone tell me whether this is still accurate with respect to the Ubuntu legacy installer's behavior? https://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/2dvokd/comment/cjufq5h/
[08:43] <dabbler> The legacy installer for 23.04 is hanging on "removing conflicting operating system files" on my machine. I see reports of this problem going back 11 years.
[08:44] <dabbler> The few "solutions" I see involve not pointing the installer to an existing /home. I'm not.
[09:12] <paop> hello. Given somelib.so, is there a way to find corresponding deb package(s) which use it? The package is not necessarily installed on my system
[09:25] <ogra> paop, sudo apt install apt-file; sudo apt-file update; apt-file search libfoo1.2-3.so
[09:25] <paop> ogra I see thanks
[09:46] <malwina> Hello, hello  I install a laptop for my friend : would he ever need ny other repository then main, restricted, universe, multiverse ( the ones which are enabled by default???)
[09:48] <tarzeau> malwina: tak
[09:49] <malwina> so what to install else ?
[09:51] <tarzeau> malwina: nothing
[09:52] <tarzeau> malwina: i usually also install stacer cool-retro-term htop screen zsh # and a bunch of other things, but depends what he wants to do?
[09:52] <malwina> oki thanks
[10:28] <weedmic> I am reviewing some audit requirements.  I have this one and cannot think of how the "rationale" is possible.  Can anyone present a scenario - https://www.tenable.com/audits/items/CIS_Debian_Linux_9_Workstation_v1.0.1_L1.audit:76d3fa4994467b61dc320182c1ba734f
[10:30] <weedmic> also, isn't root always gid 0?
[10:38] <malwina> I installed wine , but no icon in the menu application shows up ... what's up  ?
[10:39] <malwina> I can only type from the terminal wine .... but that's nt
[10:39] <malwina> not nice*
[10:39] <tarzeau> weedmic: normally is
[10:41] <tarzeau> if you type "nice wine" it's nicer? normally wine takes takes an argument to launch. should be easy to write your own .desktop file for it taking arguments
[11:04] <Wistful1> It looks like Snaps are not getting updates. In particular Gnome devs are not updating their apps on Snap store. Do they want Ubuntu users to use Fedora?
[11:04] <tarzeau> more like they want them to use Debian!
[11:06] <Wistful1> Either way they need to update their apps or just remove them.
[11:06] <Wistful1> I am testing Fedora in a VM, and it is consuming more RAM than Ubuntu. **sigh**
[11:07] <tarzeau> debian updates their apps (aka packages)
[11:07] <Wistful1> Tweaked Gnome on Ubuntu is slightly better than latest Gnome on Fedora.
[11:07] <tarzeau> which fedora version, kernel version? using zram or without? doing what?
[11:07] <tarzeau> from 100 machines i've got 2 leaking memory (gnome-shell)
[11:09] <Wistful1> F38, Kernel 6.xx without zram. It's plain testing of my development environment on Fedora. Running my git repos, testing firefox, a bit of few more browsers.
[11:10] <Wistful1> I cannot forget Gnome memory leaks back in 2017/18-> 17.10 or 18.04 as much I remember and they way Canonical fixed it.
[11:10] <tarzeau> edge? chromium? google-chrome? something else? which? as ff as deb or snap?
[11:12] <Wistful1> FF as snap.
[11:27] <weedmic> you can find out which apps are snap with "snap -list"
[12:40] <jhutchins> tarzeau: You are managing 100 Linux desktops?
[12:43] <tarzeau> jhutchins: no, 320
[12:43] <tarzeau> jhutchins: i just picked 100 because then you can say 2%
[12:44] <tarzeau> jhutchins: but it's like 800 active users. avg installed packages is 4k, these two are very helpful:
[12:44] <tarzeau> https://github.com/alexmyczko/ruptime
[12:45] <tarzeau> https://github.com/alexmyczko/autoexec.bat/tree/master/config.sys
[12:45] <tarzeau> jhutchins: how many for you?
[13:00] <jhutchins> tarzeau: About 1500, but all servers, no desktops (except my own).
[13:00] <jhutchins> tarzeau: Past tence, retired now.
[13:01] <tarzeau> jhutchins: well mine are partly multi user desktops in the serverroom so, not sure if it's server or desktop
[13:01] <tarzeau> jhutchins: nice. what field? what did the servers had to do? and anything special you can tell about?
[13:02] <jhutchins> tarzeau: Nothing particularly special.  One was a specialized publishing company.  Industrial journals like Aviation Week.
[13:02] <jhutchins> tarzeau: The other processed citizen interactions with state governments, including payments of licenses and fees.
[13:02] <tarzeau> nice, if you into aviation check out: https://www.aiei.ch/airports/ and https://www.flickr.com/photos/aiei/sets/72157650144744776/with/24400951973/
[13:02] <jhutchins> tarzeau: Yours?
[13:03] <tarzeau> science, ethz.ch d-phys, + d-baug, + d-biol
[13:03] <jhutchins> tarzeau: Ah, labs?
[13:03] <tarzeau> https://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=gurkan%40phys.ethz.ch
[13:03] <tarzeau> not only, offices, and labs as well yes. very interesting labs (expensive)
[13:04] <tarzeau> started with 10mbit+100mbit and linux (before did solaris), 32-bit, then came 64bit and meanwhile after gbit, 10gbit and 100gbit
[13:05] <tarzeau> like back 18 years ago disks were very slow and well 128 gb, meanwhile we're using 20 tb disks and/or nvme/ssd combinations or jbods 80gb. production data 4 pt, backup 4 pt (a bit less due compression)
[13:05] <jhutchins> I think we've drifted off-topic here.  Nice to hear about what you're doing though.
[13:05] <tarzeau> ah an it's nice to have 256 cores, 2 tb memory...
[13:06] <tarzeau> and well gpus. A100, 4090, 3080, 2080, 1080 and A6000, A5500 single up to 8
[13:06] <tarzeau> true
[13:07] <tarzeau> jhutchins: if you want to post: https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/enterprise-desktop-usage-ubuntu-advantage/27417
[14:25] <torrki> Hi, i need help with Ubuntu. How can i schedule some tasks weekly?
[14:26] <leftyfb> torrki: https://opensource.com/article/20/7/systemd-timers
[14:26] <torrki> thanks
[15:54] <nsaunders> I'm trying to install featherwallet which is an appimage.  Now, do I need to install something first?
[15:55] <ioria> libfuse2 probably
[15:56] <jhutchins> What are the current support sources for certbot/letsencrypt?
[15:56] <oerheks> snap, i guess https://snapcraft.io/certbot
[15:57] <nsaunders> ioria: thx
[15:57] <ioria> ok
[15:57] <jhutchins> I wouldn't expect a certbot issue to be covered by snap support, but I'll look.
[15:58] <oerheks> oh, that kind of support , github says the page
[15:58] <oerheks> https://github.com/certbot/certbot/issues
[15:59] <jhutchins> Yeah, that's what I got from the snap page.  Again, development/package support, not so much user support.
[16:00] <jhutchins> The system appears to be working correctly, but needs maintenance/cleanup.
[16:00] <ogra> well, certbot is a classic snap ... thats pretty much just a tarball on steroids with some fancy bells and whistles ... not much "packaging"
[16:02] <ogra> (i.e. te snap system doesnt have much impact in classic mode execpt being the delivery mechanism ... think any stuff you'd extract to /opt ... just with rollback features etc)
[16:02] <jhutchins> Right, so package support is not what I need, I need operational support.
[16:03] <jhutchins> Clearly beyond the topic of this channel, but it appears that they shut down their irc channel in 2018.
[16:04] <jhutchins> So I'm actually looking for someone with actual knowledge of operational support for certbot.
[16:04] <oerheks> they have an unofficial channel here, maybe on an other network too?
[16:04] <jhutchins> oerheks: Haven't found it yet.  Supposedly there's a discourse forum, I'll see where that gets me.
[16:05] <oerheks> #certbot
[16:05] <jhutchins> oerheks: Correct.
[16:40] <nsaunders> how do I install  libxcb-cursor.so.0    ?  Looking to install the feather wallet for monero.
[16:41] <oerheks> !find libxcb-cursor.so
[16:41] <oerheks> !info libxcb-cursor0
[16:41] <oerheks> make sure you have universe enabled
[16:42] <nsaunders> oerheks: thx
[16:42] <oerheks> xcb-util-cursor
[16:44] <nsaunders> E: Unable to locate package xcb-util-cursor
[16:44] <nsaunders> hmm, I think that I have universe enabled on apt
[16:46] <oerheks> what happens when you try libxcb-cursor0 ?
[16:46] <oerheks> does it pull in others?
[16:49] <nsaunders> libxcb-cursor0 is already the newest version (0.1.1-4ubuntu1).
[16:50] <nsaunders> no, libxcb-cursor0 doesn't pull in anything else.
[16:51] <oerheks> why would that appimage need those packages
[16:51] <oerheks> https://featherwallet.org/files/releases/linux-appimage/feather-2.4.9.AppImage
[16:52] <nsaunders> I don't know.  I'll try the AppImage as above.
[16:52] <nsaunders> xcb-util-cursor-0.1.3-15.fc37
[16:52] <nsaunders> FedoraProject.org
[16:52] <nsaunders> https://packages.fedoraproject.org > pkgs > fedora-37
[16:52] <nsaunders> View xcb-util-cursor-0.1.3-15.fc37 in Fedora 37. xcb-util-cursor: Cursor library ... libxcb-cursor.so.0()(64bit); xcb-util-cursor; xcb-util-cursor(x86-64) ...
[16:52] <nsaunders> Ubuntu 20.04 xcb
[16:52] <nsaunders> JetBrains
[16:53] <oerheks> .. wrong channel, we are ubuntu
[17:31] <goddard> what is linux-image-5.15.0-1026-nvidia
[17:32] <goddard> is this linux kernel with nvidia included stuff?
[17:32] <goddard> what is linux-image-5.15.0-1026-nvidia
[17:34] <oerheks> Supports Nvidia processors.
[17:34] <oerheks> Geared toward desktop and server systems.You likely do not want to install this package directly.
[17:34] <oerheks> Instead, install the linux-nvidia meta-package, which will ensure that upgrades work correctly, and that supporting packages are also installed.
[17:34] <goddard> ahh makes sense
[17:35] <goddard> i tried the low latency kernel on a server to see if it would make any difference on a nodejs app
[17:35] <oerheks> https://git.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-nvidia/log/?h=ubuntu/jammy
[17:35] <goddard> no difference at all
[17:35] <oerheks> it is a testing package, not in production
[17:35] <oerheks> you would not get it automaticly
[17:58] <goddard> i had a not very nice person do this to my server
[17:58] <goddard> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/trgB2NPSY5/
[17:58] <goddard> any ideas how i can/should repair?
[18:00] <goddard> attempting to install package gives this
[18:00] <goddard> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/XmtkX2FkR8/
[18:01] <leftyfb> goddard: your first paste tells you what to run to fix the issue:  sudo apt --fix-broken install
[18:01] <goddard> it fails
[18:02] <goddard> same error as my second link
[18:02] <leftyfb> goddard: why do you need the lowlatency kernel and linux-tools-common?
[18:02] <goddard> i dont need them any more
[18:02] <goddard> i didn't install this
[18:02] <goddard> this is just the mess i am left with
[18:03] <goddard> i can't uninstall it either
[18:03] <leftyfb> goddard: sudo apt remove --purge linux-image-lowlatency linux-tools-common linux-intel-iotg-tools-common
[18:04] <goddard> same error
[18:04] <oerheks> still the same issue as days ago?
[18:04] <goddard> telling me to fix broken
[18:05] <goddard> should i use -f
[18:05] <leftyfb> sudo apt remove --purge linux-image-lowlatency linux-tools-common linux-intel-iotg-tools-common 2>&1 | tee -a /tmp/apt.log && cat /tmp/apt.log | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:05] <oerheks> boot in an older kernel? dunno ,..
[18:06] <goddard> dont believe me :D
[18:06] <goddard> https://termbin.com/tiim
[18:06] <goddard> same as second link i posted truly
[18:07] <leftyfb> goddard: sudo apt remove --purge linux-image-lowlatency linux-tools-common linux-intel-iotg-tools-common linux-lowlatency-tools
[18:07] <oerheks>  35 not upgraded .. time to do that first?
[18:07] <goddard> nothing works
[18:07] <goddard> cant upgrade can't uninstall cant install anything
[18:07] <leftyfb> sudo apt remove --purge linux-image-lowlatency linux-tools-common linux-intel-iotg-tools-common linux-lowlatency-tools 2>&1 | tee -a /tmp/apt.log && cat /tmp/apt.log | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:07] <leftyfb> we'll keep moving along at each package it complains about
[18:08] <goddard> https://termbin.com/ihk0
[18:09] <leftyfb> goddard: sudo apt remove --purge linux-lowlatency* linux-tools-common
[18:09] <leftyfb> goddard: what release of ubuntu is this?
[18:09] <oerheks> linux-intel-iotg-tools-common .. that was the package you had trouble with a few days ago?
[18:10] <goddard> no i never talked about this perviously
[18:10] <goddard> maybe it was the guy that did this
[18:10] <goddard> haha
[18:10] <oerheks> no, it was you
[18:10] <goddard> nope
[18:11] <oerheks> funny, our package is called linux-intel-iotg-5.15-tools-common
[18:19] <goddard> maybe i can reboot into the non-low latency kernel and then remove this?
[18:20] <goddard> i dont think i have ever tried to uninstall a kernel i cam currently using
[18:20] <goddard> have to edit grub or something?
[18:20] <leftyfb> don't do any of that
[18:22] <leftyfb> goddard: sudo apt remove --purge linux-intel-iotg-tools-common linux-nvidia-5.19-tools-common linux-nvidia-tools-common linux-tools-common linux-image-lowlatency linux-lowlatency-tools
[18:22] <goddard> same error unfortunately
[18:23] <leftyfb> goddard: it's still complaining about linux-lowlatency-tools ?
[18:23] <goddard> yep
[18:23] <goddard> i never had an issue like this before
[18:23] <leftyfb> goddard: what release of ubuntu is this?
[18:24] <oerheks> that would be in the 35 updates waiting..
[18:24] <goddard> 22.04
[18:26] <goddard> i looked at his history and he used aptitude if that makes a difference which i doubt
[18:26] <leftyfb> aptitude has been known to break things
[19:51] <jaco> hello
[19:52] <jaco> can u recommend a speech recognition to word for me
[19:54] <jaco> Can you recommend a speech recognition to word for me?
[19:56] <oerheks> google docs has that buildin, but requires a network connection https://www.debugpoint.com/speech-recognition-to-text-in-linux-ubuntu-using-google-docs
[19:56] <oerheks> else look at these, none are perfect https://www.linuxlinks.com/best-free-linux-speech-recognition-tools-open-source-software/
[19:58] <sarnold> jaco: try: "apt-cache search speech recognition" -- there's a handful of packages listed there, perhaps one will suit your needs"
[19:59] <oerheks> i played with simon, a huge learning curve
[20:00] <jhutchins> Commercial voice recognition has gotten pretty good these days, I have no idea what software they're using.
[20:01] <jhutchins> I worked with Dragon Dictate for a while a couple of days ago.
[20:06] <goddard> i dont know a method available right now but mycroft assistant may work
[20:07] <goddard> open source and has a native kde plasma plugin
[20:10] <oerheks> oh mycroft is not in that list, good spot
[20:15] <goddard> i heard the company behind it isn't doing so good, but they did manage to release mark II
[20:16] <goddard> its a cool device but software does need more work
[20:16] <goddard> their infrastructure is pretty rad
[20:44] <aymeric> hello ubuntu
[22:35] <OlMan> Document scanner and "Failed to connect" Using Makulu linux... Based on Ubuntu LTS .. any help pls
[22:36] <OlMan> but i can see the ready to scan button
[22:36] <OlMan> and can use the same maching to pring]
[22:36] <OlMan> Print
[22:46] <DynamiteDan> Greetings. I am trying to install dropbox on ubuntu 22.04 but I get this error: ropbox depends on libgtk-4-1 (>= 4.8.0); however:
[22:46] <DynamiteDan>   Version of libgtk-4-1:amd64 on system is 4.6.6+ds-0ubuntu1.
[22:47] <DynamiteDan> how can I fix this?
[22:50] <jhutchins> OlMan: It's a lot easier for us to troubleshoot if you'll install Ubuntu and see if you have the same problem with it.
[22:51] <jhutchins> DynamiteDan: What's the source of your dropbox package?  Sounds like conflicting architecture.
[22:51] <ogra> DynamiteDan, looks like the package has not been built for 22.04 then ... ask at dropbox
[22:51] <OlMan> WOw Really... after a clean format and install of a Ubuntu LTS os.... why would i go through all that trouble if someone might know the fix
[22:52] <ogra> OlMan, well, this is an ubuntu support channel ... how would we know what changes, hacks and modifications Makulu does ?
[22:53] <OlMan> ogra well thats true for sure but seriously, shouldnt the hardware be of a similar structure if it is based off Ubuntu ?
[22:53] <ogra> OlMan, see the topic (especially the second half)
[22:54] <OlMan> orga Not sure what you mean
[22:54] <ogra> "Unofficial derivatives: Use your distro's support channel, not here "
[22:54] <OlMan> i see and thanks.. im new to all this and dont even know how to get to them ?
[22:55] <ogra> looks like they have https://www.makululinux.com/wp/forums/
[22:55] <OlMan> so then dont have a live xchat ?
[22:56] <ogra> no idea ... that above was the first hit on google for "makulu support" ... perhaps there is a chat if yu look around a little
[22:57] <OlMan> orga  ok and thanks again.  never knew how much "learning" id have to do just to answer some questions lol.. have to learn how to look around now lol
[23:13] <lucenera> I have an Xbox controller, which on Arch works perfectly and on Ubuntu 22.04 does not: the keys are mixed up.
[23:14] <lucenera> Is there anything I need to install/configure?
[23:31] <WaV> lucenera: antimicro may allow you to change the actions of the controller buttons
[23:32] <WaV> It's what I use to bind keyboard keys to the controller's buttons
[23:57] <akik> why are mc and tigervnc updates coming from esm apps and not from the normal updates?