[00:02] <leftyfb> !pro | akik
[00:02] <ezakimak> trying to install nvidia-xyz 515.105.01-0ubuntu... packages and it says it can't find them. do I need to add a different repo or flag for apt to find them?
[00:03] <akik> leftyfb: yes you helped me figure it out (ubuntu pro) but how was i able to install those programs without esm apps?
[00:04] <leftyfb> akik: you can install them just fine without esm/pro
[00:04] <akik> leftyfb: the updates (from apt upgrade) showed the updates coming from esm apps
[00:04] <leftyfb> and you'll get updates from them without esm/pro just fine when/if the community maintainer updates said packages
[00:05] <leftyfb> akik: but if Canonical happens to patch them first, then you'll need to have pro enabled in order to get those updates
[00:05] <akik> leftyfb: what do you mean community maintainer? i thought canonical handles those packages
[00:06] <leftyfb> akik: not packages in the universe repo
[00:06] <leftyfb> never has
[00:06] <leftyfb> but it will through pro
[00:06] <waltman> I couldn't access my home workstation at work today and I assumed I'd had a power failure. Turned out the power was fine and it had gone to sleep. It woke up and everything was fine. But I don't understand why it would have gone to sleep. It's a workstation that's on all the time, and I've never told it to sleep.
[00:06] <waltman> All I could see was this message in /var/log/syslog at 7:29 AM: NetworkManager[2241]: <info>  [1686050960.2364] manager: sleep: sleep requested (sleeping: no  enabled: yes)
[00:07] <leftyfb> waltman: then change the default settings
[00:07] <waltman> I was on the train then.
[00:07] <akik> leftyfb: ok thanks they're from universe
[00:07] <waltman> I haven't knowingly changed the default settings, and this has never happened before. I built this box in 2017.
[00:08] <leftyfb> waltman: then it's running an End Of Life release
[00:08] <waltman> I'm running 23.04.
[00:09] <leftyfb> then you built it in 2023
[00:09] <leftyfb> it could have changed back to defaults for this particular setting
[00:09] <leftyfb> check the settings
[00:09] <waltman> What I meant is that I've been running various Ubuntus on this for 6 years, and this is the first time it's ever decided to sleep on me.
[00:09] <waltman> What do you mean by "built"? Doing an upgrade doesn't seem like "building" to me.
[00:10] <waltman> I'm not even sure what setting to look for, since I've never touched them before.
[00:10] <leftyfb> waltman: look in the power settings
[00:11] <leftyfb> also, was it suspended or did the screen just blank?
[00:12] <waltman> It seemed to be hibernated. The fans were running and I'd assumed it had automatically shutdown.
[00:12] <waltman> I couldn't ssh into it.
[00:12] <leftyfb> fans running != hubernated
[00:12] <leftyfb> hibernated*
[00:12] <leftyfb> is it connected via ethernet or wifi?
[00:13] <waltman> No lights on. Nothing in the logs from 7:29 until I pressed the power button 12 hours later.
[00:13] <waltman> ethernet
[00:13] <leftyfb> check the power settings
[00:13] <waltman> Also, the logs say it went to sleep.
[00:13] <waltman> It says automatically suspend when on battery power.
[00:14] <leftyfb> what does "Automatic Suspend" say?
[00:14] <waltman> "when on battery power"
[00:15] <leftyfb> I would disable it
[00:15] <waltman> `pwrstat -status` says the last power event was "Blackout at 2023/03/29 08:54:23 for 14 sec."
[00:16] <leftyfb> ok, so maybe you had a brownout
[00:16] <waltman> Typically when that happens, my clock radio is blinking when I get home. It's not blinking.
[00:16] <leftyfb> ok, let us know if it happens again
[00:19] <ezakimak> can't locate 470.182.03-0 versions either
[00:20] <sarnold> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-470/+publishinghistory
[00:21] <WaV> ezakimak: Software & Updates --> Ubnutu Software - Is proprietary drivers selected?
[00:21] <ezakimak> I dunno. this is in a docker build using ubuntu as a base. it used to work, just trying to build a newer container image w/an updated nvidia driver package versions and now it won't find them
[00:22] <WaV> Yea ubuntu will do it automatically but the /dev/sd* may change occasionally.
[00:22] <WaV> err wrong chan
[00:22] <ezakimak> I can edit the sources.list before the RUN command that tries to install them, but not sure how to edit it
[00:23] <WaV> ezakimak: Sorry, not familiar with docker.
[00:25] <ezakimak> so... think command line. I just need to know what conf file to edit to make the nvidia packages visible to apt
[00:26] <leftyfb> ezakimak: what release of ubuntu?
[00:26] <ezakimak> 20.04.1
[00:29] <leftyfb> ezakimak: https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/nBNTx34Z8J/  those are your options
[00:31] <WaV> ezakimak: Make sure the security and restricted repository is in your sources.list then "sudo apt update" && "sudo apt install <whatever>"
[00:34] <ezakimak> I know, I want the 515, so what do you mean by "security and restricted repository", what do I add to my sources list?
[00:36] <leftyfb> ezakimak: then you want the nvidia-driver-515 package
[00:36] <ezakimak> there's a bunch of packages I want.
[00:37] <WaV> leftyfb: ezakimak: trying to install nvidia-xyz 515.105.01-0ubuntu... packages and it says it can't find them. do I need to add a different repo or flag for apt to find them?
[00:37] <leftyfb> ezakimak: install nvidia-driver-515
[00:38] <WaV> ezakimak: "cat /etc/apt/sources.list | nc termbin.com 9999"
[00:38] <ezakimak> is that going to install all of libnvidia-cfg1,common,compute.decode,encode,extra,fbc1,gl,ifr1}-515... and nvidia-{compute-utils,dkms,driver,kernel-common,kernel-source,utils}-515... ?
[00:39] <leftyfb> ezakimak: it should install all the necessary packages for the nvidia 515 driver to run
[00:39] <ezakimak> I can't see the sources.list easily--it's buried in an incomplete docker image.
[00:39] <ezakimak> those are the packages my docker build /need/ to install. I dunno what that meta package does.
[00:39] <leftyfb> ezakimak: you could just try it and see if anything is missing
[00:39] <leftyfb> hence the world of building your own custom docker image
[00:40] <ezakimak> what's the apt repo for 20.04.1 with security and restricted enabled look like? I can just append it to sources.list
[00:40] <leftyfb> ezakimak: it's already part of a default install of ubuntu
[00:40] <ezakimak> clearly it's not enabled.
[00:40] <leftyfb> ezakimak: how so?
[00:41] <ezakimak> because it can't find the packages that require it...
[00:41] <leftyfb> ezakimak: you have not shown that it can't find nvidia-driver-515
[00:41] <WaV> leftyfb: see my paste above.
[00:41] <sarnold> ezakimak: here's what I've got on my laptop https://termbin.com/9q1a
[00:41] <ezakimak> E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'libnvidia-fbc1-515.105.01-0ubuntu0.20.04.1'
[00:41] <ezakimak> ok. that helps. let me try that
[00:42] <WaV> sarnold: you have repos on your local network?
[00:43] <sarnold> WaV: yeah
[00:43] <WaV> Interesting.
[00:51] <ezakimak> ok I think that worked. thanks.
[00:54] <ezakimak> nope. spoke too soon. still couldn't find them
[00:54] <ezakimak> I added "deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ focal-security main restricted universe multiverse" to the sources.list
[00:55] <sarnold> pastebin the script and the output?
[00:58] <ezakimak> sorry, I can't paste my clients 8 levels of docker scripts. I did paste the output though. all 16 packages say the same thing.
[00:59] <ezakimak> output: "E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'libnvidia-fbc1-515.105.01-0ubuntu0.20.04.1'" x16 different packages.
[00:59] <sarnold> ezakimak: paste it again? /lastlog -regex ez.*http   doesn't show anything
[01:02] <ezakimak> https://dpaste.com/C75CTATX3
[01:05] <sarnold> ezakimak: aha! "libnvidia-fbc1-515.105.01-0ubuntu0.20.04.1" doesn't exist; the package name is libnvidia-fbc1-515
[01:08] <ezakimak> in the script it used to be  libnvidia-cfg1-470.141.03-0ubuntu0.20.04.1  I just edited that to libnvidia-cfg1-515.105.01-0ubuntu0.20.04.1
[01:08] <sarnold> it probably had an = in there
[01:08] <sarnold> to select a specific version
[01:08] <sarnold> your version does not have an equals
[01:09] <ezakimak> oh. = got replaced with .
[01:09] <sarnold> bump up the text size a few notches and take another look :)
[01:13] <ezakimak> ok. now that's fixed. now a different error to chase down. now it's just complaining that target packages is configured multiple ti mes
[01:14] <sarnold> try removing that line you just added?
[01:21] <ezakimak> I replaced the entire source.list with just that, so far so good. still building. not sure if it got there yet
[01:23] <bumblefuzz> hi, I have 2 ssd's and I'm trying to get grub to recognize the windows boot partition on one of them and not the other
[01:23] <ezakimak> nope. failed. "Unable to locate package libnvidia-ifr1-515"
[01:23] <ezakimak> but that's the only error
[01:23] <bumblefuzz> is there a way to update grub so that it only detects the boot partition on a specific drive?
[01:23] <rbox> bumblefuzz: grub doesnt detect anthign
[01:23] <bumblefuzz> well, update-grub does
[01:23] <rbox> it has a config file taht tells it what to do
[01:23] <rbox> thats a script, not grub
[01:24] <bumblefuzz> how do I configure it so that I'm using just the one SSD and not the other?
[01:24] <ezakimak> looks like ifr stops at 470
[01:24] <sarnold> bumblefuzz: try dpkg-reconfigure grub, I think that'll do the trick. if that's not the name, try a few other grub* package names that are installed
[01:25] <bumblefuzz> ...or is there a way to update grub so that you can choose boot partitions instead of having them assigned automatically?
[01:25] <sarnold> your system bios probably lets you pick which EFI partition to use
[01:26] <bumblefuzz> no, I want the choice in grubn
[01:26] <bumblefuzz> I'll just do it the hard way
[01:26] <bumblefuzz> remove the drive and then run update-grub
[01:27] <bumblefuzz> but update-grub should give me the choice NOT to use dev/sda2
[01:27] <rbox> so fix it and submit a patch
[01:28] <bumblefuzz> if I could code, I would
[01:28] <bumblefuzz> anyway..
[02:14] <puff> Evening.  I'm on 20.4 LTS, I have python 3.8.10 installed.  The project I'm working on, some of my teammates have had problems with some packages running under 3.11.  I'd like to try 3.11 and see if I can find/eliminate the errors, but I don't want to get stuck/bogged down if it doens't work out....
[02:16] <rbox> pyenv
[02:34] <vai> Ubuntu installed, tada !
[02:34] <Jari--> good bye Fedora
[02:34] <Jari--> using Ubuntu desktop for lightweight server purposes
[02:36] <Jari--> Fedora workstation is awful on server use :-)
[02:36] <rbox> if only fedora had a server version...
[02:43] <WaV> hrm. Not sure tbh. Not familiar enough with JellyFin to be able to give you something more to look into.
[02:44] <WaV> err, fail. I really have to pay attention to my active window
[02:47] <Minvera> can anyone explain to me how /snap/bin works?
[02:47] <Minvera> I'm trying to mount it in docker but the executable doesn't work
[02:48] <akik> dns resolution stopped working with 20.04->22.04 upgrade. could somebody help me in fixing it?
[02:48] <rbox> what do you mean "works"
[02:49] <Minvera> when i execute /snap/bin/emacs in docker, it just outputs help for the snap command
[02:49] <rbox> ls -l /snap/bin
[02:49] <akik> https://paste.linux.chat/?5cb2170ada1a86c7#6gJiLEruYKijXwK4vsM7N64JrPBAQUerh5LJDiHJswSP
[02:51] <NickH> akik: have you tried restarting systemd-resolved?
[02:51] <akik> NickH: no
[02:51] <Minvera> rbox, https://paste.linux.chat/?69666025373c0d5a#FbRnGJuMHT4EZkpKquxyeTvVXbDQypUoPbmhTCn7M9Ld
[02:51] <akik> NickH: i just rebooted the box after upgrade and now dns resolution is broken
[02:51] <rbox> see how they're just links to snap?
[02:51] <rbox> the actual snap is mounted elsewhere
[02:52] <NickH> akik: what is the output of "sudo systemctl status systemd-resolved"?
[02:52] <Minvera> which is where? I want snap programs to work in my docker instance
[02:52] <rbox> df will show you all the mounted snaps
[02:52] <akik> NickH: this didn't fix it "systemctl restart systemd-resolved"
[02:52] <rbox> binding a snap into a docker container seems stupid
[02:52] <rbox> but whatever
[02:53] <rbox> then again binding anyting into a container is
[02:53] <akik> NickH: https://paste.linux.chat/?8bf39c2f18a5d15a#DHagsaGuURYkm9beLYCU2i4MuTVcV84YsML972odmUhP
[02:54] <NickH> akik: hmm I don't see anything syspicious there.
[02:54] <Minvera> it shows that /snap/emacs/1450 is mounted as a /dev/loop13, would i use -v /snap/eamcs/1450:/dev/loop13 as an argument to docker?
[02:54] <NickH> You may be able to see what it is doing with "sudo journalctl -u systemd-resolved -f"
[02:55] <Minvera> @ rbox
[02:56] <akik> NickH: it doesn't show any messages for failing dns queries
[02:56] <akik> NickH: is the problem that the hostname is all numbers?
[02:57] <NickH> What do you mean by "the hostname is all numbers"?
[02:58] <akik> NickH: the server hoster sets the hostname to 1900-37
[02:59] <NickH> Ahh, no that shouldn't matter.
[02:59] <akik> NickH: i can directly query 1.1.1.1 or 8.8.8.8 and they work
[03:00] <NickH> Unfortunatly, that's about the limit of my knowledge of systemd-resolved.
[03:00] <NickH> I see...
[03:00] <akik> NickH: it's just that this doesn't work in resolv.conf: nameserver 127.0.0.53
[03:00] <NickH> Understood.
[03:01] <akik> udp   UNCONN 0      0       127.0.0.53%lo:53            0.0.0.0:*     users:(("systemd-resolve",pid=3263,fd=13))
[03:01] <akik> that's in ss -tulpan | grep 53
[03:04] <NickH> "resolvectl status" may give useful hints
[03:04] <NickH> Like what upstream DNS systemd-resolved is using.
[03:04] <akik> NickH: i have no idea what this means: https://paste.linux.chat/?691820fa0a957cad#2UpJBieY3Lptnx1eM6P4Q9QVuvfpwVmq6BCc237n4YKb
[03:05] <NickH> Ohh, it has no upstream DNS.
[03:05] <NickH> There should be a line like "Current DNS Server: 1.1.1.1"
[03:06] <NickH> How does that machine get its IP address?
[03:06] <akik> NickH: i have dns-nameservers 5.230.11.11 in /etc/network/interfaces with the static ip config
[03:06] <akik> NickH: static ip
[03:07] <NickH> I think you need to set in /etc/systemd/resolved.conf.d/dns_servers.conf
[03:08] <NickH> I have /etc/systemd/resolved.conf.d/fallback.conf
[03:08] <NickH> https://0x0.st/Hcss.conf
[03:08] <akik> NickH: i have /etc/systemd/resolved.conf but the configs are all commented out. no resolved.conf.d
[03:08] <NickH> I suggest you make that directory and put a file in it.
[03:09] <akik> oki i'll try
[03:09] <akik> thanks
[03:09] <akik> NickH: works now! :) thanks
[03:12] <NickH> Great.
[03:12] <NickH> There may be a way to get systemd-resolved to read the DNS from /etc/network/interfaces... but that's just a guess.
[03:14] <NickH> I guess not many people configure their network with /etc/network/interfaces these days.
[03:19] <NickH> See "man 5 resolved.conf.d". Looks like you probably should use "DNS=" not "FallbackDNS=". You probably also want to set "Domains=".
[03:21] <akik> NickH: this setup is coming from my server hoster. they only have ubuntu 20.04
[03:21] <akik> NickH: i ran do-release-upgrade and that's when the problem started
[03:23] <NickH> I'm not sure what is the recommended way to configure the network on headless 22.04 machine.
[03:24] <NickH> Doing a little reading, perhaps it's netplan.
[03:25] <NickH> I suggest you read https://ubuntu.com/server/docs/network-configuration
[03:26] <akik> NickH: it's working now with your help
[03:27] <NickH> I'm glad it's working, but to future proof it (eg when upgrading to 24.04) you might want to update to the way you configure your network.
[03:46] <akik> NickH: i removed the dns config from /etc/network/interfaces
[03:47] <NickH> Probably a good idea to put a comment in there explaining where DNS is set :-)
[06:14] <Temscuatawei> How can one change the username on IRC ?
[06:20] <Unit193> Temscuatawei: /nick mygreatnickhere
[06:20] <Unit193> For the realname/gecos, it really depends on the client though.
[06:21] <al1r4d> Temscuatawei: depends on your software
[06:21] <al1r4d> I mean client
[06:29] <weedmic> you need to type in this - "/msg NickServ IDENTIFY weedmic <password>" on the libera tab (changing it to the correct info)
[08:13] <webchat69> we've got a server which requires linux-modules-extra-<kernel.version>-generic for its NICs we've installed the package for the current version and it works. but since we've explicitly installed it for the current version, it will be missing in case of a kernel update.
[08:14] <webchat69> we couldn't find a meta package for it. which package do we need to install for it to always install the package for the currently installed kernel versions?
[09:51] <zzarr> Hello!
[09:52] <weedmic> cheers
[09:52] <zzarr> I wish to connect nautilus to an aad share, how do I do that?
[09:56] <zaggynl> heresy! A quick search shows this: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/storage/files/storage-how-to-use-files-linux?tabs=Ubuntu%2Csmb311#mount-the-azure-file-share-on-demand-with-mount
[10:19] <zzarr> zaggynl, I know, but company rules are company rules
[11:30] <weedmic> I have a file with these mods "-rwx--S--T" - but, when I search the drive for files wtih stickybit set, it does not list "find . -perm 1000".  Ideas?
[11:30] <weedmic> fails to be found when also set to -rws--S---
[11:30] <weedmic> i must be doing find wrongly.
[11:54] <EriC^^> weedmic: not sure if you were answered but i think T isnt the sticky bit, small t is
[11:54] <EriC^^> i think T was something to do with when stuff is created it's always created with the same group as the original dir
[11:55] <weedmic> it was actually 6700 not 1000 - works now, but... need to do a loop with all combinations (as far as i can tell)
[11:55] <EriC^^> nevermind i think im confusing stuff
[11:55] <EriC^^> aha
[11:55] <weedmic> np, 6700 sets sticky bit to both o & g
[12:09] <paopr> hello. In the "copyright" of the debian package of libqt5printsupport5 I see that some files are under the GPL license (no LGPL option). These files are qmake/*, src/tools/*, util/*. I don't understand which files are them in the QT src tree. How can I check them?
[12:13] <oerheks> maybe in /usr/share/doc/libqt5printsupport5/copyright  ? https://packages.debian.org/buster/amd64/libqt5printsupport5/filelist
[12:15] <paopr> oerheks: they're not the files I'm referring to
[13:27] <xavier_> Hi, today I've restarted my Ubuntu 23.04 laptop and some of the gnome extensions I have refuse to load. They say: Requiring Gtk, version 3.0: Requiring namespace 'Gtk' version '3.0', but '4.0' is already loaded. You know if there is some workaround to fix that? I've googled for some time, but I haven't found anything relevant.
[13:31] <ogra> better talk to the extension developers to forwardport them to the "new" (several years old now) GTK ...
[13:36] <xavier_> All extensions were working fine until the reboot. I already was on 23.04 since the release date. It's not only one extension that started to fail, maybe 60% of them.
[13:38] <JanC> why can't it use both?
[13:39] <throwthecheese> I can't connect to a certain IkeV2 VPN via NetworkManager but I have no such issues with connecting via charon-cmd. What am I doing wrong?
[13:51] <throwthecheese> Nevermind. Turns out either I put my username in the wrong field or the VPN service rejected the preinstalled certificate
[14:01] <dman777> my terminal window is not showing utf-8 characters correctly. locale is showing LANG=C.UTF-8... is that why?
[14:02] <oerheks> yes, mine shows LANG=en_US.UTF-8
[14:07] <ymhstudios28226> Just launched a new 22.04 VM on EC2. Installed the Landscape client and attempted to register it but it seems Landscape(hosted) is not working properly. this has been happening since yesterday. Broker logs say its getting a 503 at https://landscape.canonical.com/message-system. I checked status page and no reports about landscape issues. Anyone
[14:07] <ymhstudios28226> else getting the same thing?
[14:08] <lotuspsychje> ymhstudios28226: https://status.canonical.com/
[14:08] <lotuspsychje> ymhstudios28226: seems like they had issues on 1june
[14:09] <ymhstudios28226> I saw that as well. I forgot to mention that I also have instances that were already established as clients in Landscape and they're reporting 503s too with other background tasks. For example Resynchronize computer [host] (scopes: package)
[14:09] <leftyfb> ymhstudios28226: https://ubuntu.com/landscape  landscape is a commercial product from Canonical. You'll need to reach out to Canonical for support.
[14:10] <ymhstudios28226> Yeah, I figured I need to reach out to support too. I'm just checking with others out there.
[14:16] <ymhstudios28226> The odd thing is I manage multiple Landscape accounts for different clients and other ones are 100%.
[14:21] <xavier_> Fixed, it was a single extension (using gtk 3) that was making all other extensions to crash. Thanks
[14:22] <leftyfb> xavier_: which extension?
[14:22] <xavier_> wireguard-indicator
[14:28] <webchat74> Is there a problem currently with the snap store?
[14:28] <dman777> I set it to LANG=en_US.UTF-8 in /etc/default/locale but the setting is not taking effect
[14:29] <ymhstudios28226> Where does one even find contact information for support? All pages lead me to purchase support plans or ubuntu pro (neither of which i want/need).
[14:29] <leftyfb> dman777: reboot
[14:29] <webchat74> tigermann@freja $ sudo snap refresh snap-store                                                                                    ~
[14:29] <webchat74> error: cannot refresh "snap-store": cannot query the store for updates: got unexpected HTTP status
[14:29] <webchat74>        code 503 via POST to "https://api.snapcraft.io/v2/snaps/refresh"
[14:29] <leftyfb> !paste | webchat74
[14:29] <dman777> leftyfb: ok, thanks
[14:29] <webchat74> leftyfb Thanks, sorry.
[14:30] <dman777> I was hoping locale-gen would not force me to reboot
[14:31] <leftyfb> dman777: locale-gen only generates the configs
[14:33] <oerheks>  sudo locale-gen en_US.UTF-8, update-locale LANG=en_US.UTF-8
[14:33] <oerheks> then reboot
[14:34] <oerheks> or a new terminal would work too.
[14:37] <ymhstudios28226> https://dpaste.com/4Z7J99LGV
[14:43] <webchat74> Is there currently a problem with snap store os is ut just me? https://dpaste.com/FFWV5KD9J  https://imgur.com/a/wKpKDRp
[14:46] <ogra> webchat74, status.snapcraft.io shows the live status ...
[14:46] <ogra> (and yes, there is a prob ... also announced on forum.snapcraft.io)
[14:46] <ogra> ... being worked on ...
[14:47] <ogra> (and indeed i'm talking to the void ? )
[14:47] <oerheks> no worries,i was looking into that landscape error thingy
[14:48] <oerheks> ogra, see ymhstudios28226
[14:48] <ogra> ah, yeah
[14:53] <ymhstudios28226> Appreciate it!
[14:54] <dman777> https://dpaste.org/tbqPx#L21 I have my locale now set to LANG=en_US.UTF-8 but my terminal is still having issues displaying the UTF-8 character. Any ideas on how to fix?
[14:55] <oerheks> dman777, does it happen with a new terminal session too?
[14:55] <oerheks> then reboot is needed
[14:56] <oerheks> sudo locale-gen en_US.UTF-8, update-locale LANG=en_US.UTF-8 # would give correct characters in a new terminalsession
[15:12] <dman777> oerheks: yep, I rebooted
[15:15] <dman777> oerheks: I ran sudo locale-gen en_US.UTF-8; sudo  update-locale LANG=en_US.UTF-8  also but no sucess
[15:15] <oerheks> weird, any updates pending?
[15:30] <root> oi
[15:37] <dman777> no that I know of
[15:37] <dman777> not
[15:59] <jhutchins> ';;''
[16:00] <jhutchins> ';;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
[16:00] <jhutchins> Sorry 'bout that.
[16:00] <oerheks> feed that cat, jhutchins
[16:01] <jhutchins> Yessir.
[17:13] <ianliu> Is it a guarantee that "libgdal30" will always exist on ubuntu:22.04 docker image? Can I assume that "apt-get install libgdal30" will exist, and not be updated to, say, libgdal31?
[17:14] <leftyfb> ianliu: correct
[17:14] <ianliu> leftyfb: thanks
[19:32] <webchat35> Hello
[19:34] <webchat35> I would like to file a bug. Can I paste a screenshot?
[19:35] <oerheks> no screenshot please, use a pastebin for text
[19:35] <oerheks> !paste
[19:35] <oerheks> and !bug
[19:35] <oerheks> !bug
[19:37] <webchat35> Ok. Thanks.
[20:10] <syphyr> I've installed signal-desktop on gnome from a snap package and signal's icon in the top bar is just a single dot (like one pixel). Anyone know why that icon is messed up?
[20:11] <syphyr> the snap package looks like its missing the icon
[20:12] <oerheks> known issue, see https://github.com/snapcrafters/signal-desktop/issues
[20:13] <syphyr> oh thanks
[20:13] <oerheks> i read a tip in the comments,  Install libayatana  5 days ago
[20:16] <syphyr> ahh good tip
[20:17] <syphyr> libayatana-appindicator or libayatana-indicator
[20:18] <syphyr> didn't help
[20:20] <oerheks> that might need a logout/login again
[20:22] <syphyr> maybe libayatana-appindicator0.1-cil ?
[20:22] <syphyr> oh
[20:24] <NothingMan> hey
[20:33] <syphyr> nope, libayatana did not make any difference
[20:34] <syphyr> thanks anyway
[20:36] <oerheks> oke
[20:37] <oerheks> could well be an indicator issue, mentioned in the bugreport.
[20:38] <NothingMan> i need some help
[20:39] <NothingMan> i have a webcam, and i need a good software
[20:39] <NothingMan> i want see the live video on a specific webpage
[20:40] <NothingMan> what is the best option?
[20:40] <sarnold> firefox and chromium-browser are the usual web browsers
[20:40] <oerheks> There is no single best.
[20:40] <sarnold> there's more, but these two have been around a while
[20:41] <oerheks> vlc, mpv, and more can do live streaming, if you have the correct adress
[20:41] <NothingMan> about 15 years ago i used the "webcam" package.
[20:41] <NothingMan> but i miss the config file
[20:42] <NothingMan> cant fuound any information about this
[20:42] <oerheks> cheese is standard installed
[20:42] <NothingMan> i dont have gui
[20:42] <leftyfb> NothingMan: use firefox
[20:43] <oerheks>  15 years ago i used the "webcam" package.... nostalgia
[20:43] <oerheks> oh dear, no gui ,...
[20:43] <NothingMan> i dont have gui, this is only a server
[20:43] <oerheks> lolz
[20:43] <oerheks> how do you 'i want see the live video on a specific webpage'
[20:44] <oerheks> using that server as a webcamstream service?
[20:44] <NothingMan> oerheks: yes.
[20:44] <leftyfb> NothingMan: https://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Xawtv  this is the documentation for the "webcam" package
[20:44] <NothingMan> my english is not the best :(
[20:45] <oerheks> no problem we got your question clear
[20:45] <sarnold> ah :) sorry to misunderstand your goals
[20:45] <leftyfb> though I do not think that package is what you're actually looking for
[20:45] <NothingMan> maybe i try the motion
[20:45] <leftyfb> motion is for recording from your webcams
[20:46] <NothingMan> can i see the live video on the webpage?
[20:46] <leftyfb> NothingMan: video from where?
[20:46] <NothingMan> from the camera
[20:46] <leftyfb> your camera?
[20:46] <NothingMan> omg.
[20:46] <NothingMan> yes
[20:46] <NothingMan> :]
[20:47] <NothingMan> https://gist.github.com/endolith/2052778
[20:48] <leftyfb> looks like you found what you were looking for
[20:49] <NothingMan> i hope. but now i can open more ports, because i dont be at home :(
[20:49] <NothingMan> so i cant try
[20:50] <NothingMan> asd
[20:50] <sarnold> NothingMan: this is what I'd start with https://trac.ffmpeg.org/wiki/StreamingGuide
[20:51] <ed__> is this in appropriate place to ask questions about livepatch? I would like to know if livepatch can work in a readonly rootfs, or if it will issue writes (like in /boot or /etc)
[20:52] <oerheks> obs studio ? https://www.debugpoint.com/live-streaming-applications-linux-2022/
[20:53] <sarnold> oerheks: heh that was my first shot, but it looked like all the "headless obs" things were just setting up xvfb for vnc or some such and meh that doesn't sound fun
[20:53] <oerheks> docker
[20:54] <oerheks> https://github.com/Niek/obs-web
[21:06] <sarnold> ed__: hah, dang, both my easy systems with livepatch running have been rebooted recently enough that there's no kernel modules downloaded :(
[21:21] <Guest48> Hello
[21:21] <Guest48> I used Ubuntu for most of time at University (15 years ago), then a little bit professionally before moving to MacOS for more than 10 years. I just thought I'd check Ubuntu out again last night and I couldn't even install it
[21:22] <Guest48> Master degree in computer science, over 15 years in technology... and I couldn't install Ubuntu
[21:22] <Guest48> how can things still be this shitty?
[21:22] <leftyfb> !language
[21:22] <Guest48> leftyfb mate...
[21:22] <leftyfb> Guest48: if you'd like help, lets start with what issue you ran into exactly and what error messages you received
[21:23] <Guest48> Nope, I'm just here as a former assistant comp sci professor and professional developer and architect that works at AWS to let you guys know that things are still bed after all these years
[21:23] <Guest48> Who on earth wants to delve into linux config just to get to their desktop?
[21:23] <Guest48> It's 2023
[21:23] <Guest48> sort it out
[21:23] <leftyfb> Guest48: this isn't the place to rant. Try #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:24] <Guest48> You've lost allies
[21:35] <memphisto> don't know when or how, but my VMs in virt-manager no longer have ip's; I've had docker, vagrant, and i have removed them because i thought that this might be the reason why it's not working. reseted ufw rules; but don't know where more to look
[21:35] <memphisto> i've recreated the default network, too
[21:41] <leftyfb> memphisto: removing vagrant/docker/etc might have deleted the bridged interface your vm's were relying on
[21:43] <memphisto> virsh uses vibr0 as backend for default network
[21:58] <memphisto> back. tried rebooting host, rebooting guest, install new guest but no luck . VMs can't acquire IP from kvm
[22:32] <Cougar> on ubuntu 20.04 / kvm was easy to do / now / on 22.04 / its broke / why ??
[22:34] <Cougar> I went through all the torials / and even netplan is borked / so it seems
[22:37] <Cougar> downloaded new 22.04 os / went to kvm to load it / it erased the download
[22:37] <Cougar> 2 funny
[22:37] <Cougar>  3 times i did it
[22:38] <Cougar> had to delete ALL kvm / qumu / and virt files to be able to start from scratch
[22:39] <Cougar> AND reinstate nm in its own file on netplan
[22:42] <Cougar> lol, part messages still arive, interesting
[22:44] <Cougar> once linux is broke /  no matter the version / its a hard thing.
[22:46] <Cougar> AI will fix it /  but at what cost ?? / have a good day folks.
[22:49] <Square> Is it only me having issues with keeping discord canary up to date using "Ubuntu Software"?
[22:50] <Square> i mean, even if i install it, i have to manually install it once running it.
[22:50] <Square> ...as in downloading .deb and then install that.
[22:52] <mybalzitch> do you have a repo configured for discord?
[22:52] <Square> mybalzitch, lemme check
[22:53] <mybalzitch> under /etc/apt/source.list or in the /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ directory
[22:54] <Square> mybalzitch, no, doesn't look like it
[22:55] <mybalzitch> for ubuntus software to update itself, the system ahs to know about where to look for updated builds of particular bits of software
[22:55] <mybalzitch> 99% of .deb's don't implement anything extra for the package updating itself
[22:56] <Square> I wonder... why put Discord-canary in the official "Ubuntu Software" offering if they can't keep it up to date. Via snap that is.
[22:56] <mybalzitch> oh, you're using snap
[22:56] <mybalzitch> yeah the snap builds probably need a human to check off on it before it gets pushed
[22:56] <Square> Well they call it "Ubuntu Software"
[22:56] <oerheks> https://snapcraft.io/discord  28 april 2023 ... and the canary version from 2022
[22:56] <mybalzitch> but if you're using snaps you shouldn't be using debs
[22:57] <oerheks> prop blob
[22:57] <Square> oerheks, hey!
[22:57] <oerheks> https://snapcraft.io/discord-canary
[22:57] <Square> so snap isn't the way to go then I guess.
[22:58] <oerheks> sure, just not the early version canary
[22:58] <mybalzitch> https://github.com/snapcrafters/discord/issues wonder if theres a reason the canary is behind
[22:59] <mybalzitch> https://github.com/snapcrafters/discord/issues/81 only 3 years old
[22:59] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Issue 81 in snapcrafters/discord "Add Canary Build as Beta or Edge" [Open]
[22:59] <Square> Gotcha.
[23:41] <le4> Ola, como resolve o erro de acpi ?
[23:41] <le4> acpi not found, acpi bios error
[23:42] <NothingMan> -
[23:44] <WaV> !es | le4
[23:46] <le4> Feedback: ubuntu 23.04 has acpi error, acpi not found, acpi bios error, sgx, x509
[23:47] <le4> Intel Celeron
[23:47] <oerheks> look for a bios update?
[23:47] <NothingMan> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1411354/ubuntu-22-04-acpi-bios-error-bug
[23:50] <le4> Thanks. Everything is up to date, even the bios.  Most of the solutions I found caused the system to no longer start. ?
[23:52] <le4> Canonical please send update with acpi fix ??
[23:52] <oerheks> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1406760/sgx-disabled-by-bios-in-ubuntu-22-04
[23:52] <oerheks> seems like you should not disable that
[23:54] <Raiinzen> Hello, I have a question regarding hardware. From what I can tell, I have an audio card which is incompatible right now (RealTek  ALC711-CG)  I've found intel-media-driver 22.3.1+dfsg1-1ubuntu2 source package in Ubuntu, and if I understand right, according to that, it SHOULD be working, but after 2 weeks of trying everything, I'm still getting
[23:54] <Raiinzen> "Dummy Sound."  How might I figure out if this is a new bug that could be reported?
[23:55] <Raiinzen> I have a post on the forums which can be referenced:  https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2487460
[23:55] <oerheks> i read an old post, seems like supported with the sof-firmware package, ALC711-CG
[23:56] <oerheks> !info sof-firmware
[23:56] <oerheks> oh
[23:56] <oerheks> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firmware-sof
[23:57] <oerheks> from https://gist.github.com/ThHareau/4509e969a094429121bd9830d88adeb7
[23:57] <Raiinzen> oerheks  Thank you.  I'm still rather new to these source packages.  Does that mean it can be installed since it is not built into Lunar?