[00:01] <copec> I'm working with dnsdist on Ubuntu 22.04.2, and looking at this for eBPF https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/KnowledgeBase/BHI
[00:01] <copec> It seems though that when kernel.unprivileged_bpf_disabled=2 that even giving bpf capability with apparmor and in the systemd unit will allow eBPF to work, but when kernel.unprivileged_bpf_disabled=0, then anything unpriviledged whether restricted by apparmor or not can use eBPF. Is this normal behaviour? How can I still just restrict it to the dnsdist unit?
[00:03] <copec> Sorry, I meant when  kernel.unprivileged_bpf_disabled=2 then nothing allows ebpf to work, but when  kernel.unprivileged_bpf_disabled=0 then it works for everything no matter whether it has the capability or not
[00:04] <Liowenex> mitigations=off
[00:06] <sarnold> I wonder if mitigations=off works for that. I'd be surprised.
[00:07] <Liowenex> At the very least they'll notice an increase in CPU performance
[01:12] <oerheks> kernel.unprivileged_bpf_disabled=2  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/KnowledgeBase/BHI
[01:14] <oerheks> copec, sarnold Liowenex
[05:39] <dabbler> I can't figure out why I have significant space remaining unusable on my /boot btrfs. There's only one subvolume (other than id 5) and there's nothing outside it. I just booted so there shouldn't be any unlinked files open. Yet 2/5ths of the filesystem isn't available. Any ideas?
[05:44] <webchat24> 23.04 proposed... after an update of the shell i dont get the normal login screen but only terminal... how do i get into the desktop and how to get the login screen back at boot?
[05:47] <dabbler> webchat24: sudo systemctl start [*].service
[05:48] <dabbler> Where [*] depends on your flavor of Ubuntu
[05:48] <webchat24> ubuntu 23.04 proposed
[05:49] <dabbler> Ok, for "plain" Ubuntu, it's gdm or gdm3. I forget which but it should autocomplete with tab
[05:50] <webchat24> unit service.service not found
[05:52] <webchat24> gdm3 without service dosnt start desktop
[05:52] <dabbler> What about just gdm?
[05:53] <webchat24> unit gdm.service not found
[05:53] <dabbler> Hmm press tab after the space after "start" to see all services
[05:54] <dabbler> Usually there are a lot
[05:55] <webchat24> no gdm
[05:55] <dabbler> Does it list a lot?
[05:55] <webchat24> 247 items
[05:56] <dabbler> Ok. Let me check what package provides it
[05:57] <webchat24> dabbler thx a lot :)
[05:57] <dabbler> It's gdm3 haha
[05:57] <dabbler> What happens if you do "sudo apt install gdm3"?
[05:58] <dabbler> I'm guessing something went wrong with its installation during the upgrade to lunar
[05:58] <webchat24> it installs gnome shell and so on
[05:59] <dabbler> It didn't say they're already installed?
[05:59] <webchat24> and im back in the dektop... hurray :D
[05:59] <dabbler> Nice!
[06:00] <webchat24> no... seems the latest update something was missing... some mutter updates were hold back
[06:01] <dabbler> How did you do the upgrade to 23.04? Through the "software something" UI in the desktop?
[06:01] <dabbler> Or with apt dist-upgrade?
[06:01] <webchat24> with sudo apt full-upgrade
[06:02] <dabbler> Oh ok. I'm not familiar with that one. Were you following a guide?
[06:02] <webchat24> i did in past with dist-upgrade
[06:02] <webchat24> saw with help its full-upgrade
[06:03] <webchat24> they should be the same
[06:03] <dabbler> Ok. I wonder if there's a log file you can check to see whether anything else failed to install properly
[06:06] <dabbler> webchat24: Is there a /var/log/full-upgrade on your system?
[06:06] <dabbler> Or a /var/log/dist-upgrade?
[06:08] <dabbler> Actually, it's probably simpler to just make sure every dependency of ubuntu-desktop got installed
[06:08] <dabbler> Do 'sudo apt install ubuntu-desktop'
[06:08] <webchat24> no but dist-upgrade
[06:09] <dabbler> Ok, the contents of that directory are what should be studied if you end up needing to know what went wrong
[06:11] <dabbler> But you may not need to worry about that as long as you can get the ubuntu-desktop package (and all its dependencies) installed at this point
[06:11] <webchat24> 12 things get installed with install ubuntu-desktop
[06:12] <dabbler> Ok, assuming they install successfully, I think you're good to go
[06:12] <webchat24> thx a lot :)
[06:13] <dabbler> You're welcome
[06:25] <hid3> Greetings everyone. I've got a small farm of Ubuntu 22.04 LTS servers which all run as VMs in one physical machine. They have some cron jobs in cron.daily, weekly and monthly schedules. The problem is that by default all the crons start at the same time, causing load/slowness on the main physical machine. Is there any tool which would somehow randomise the start times of cron.daily, cron.weekly and cron.monthly jobs?
[06:27] <dabbler> hid3: it would probably be cleaner to insert a wait into the "cronned" scripts themselves
[06:28] <dabbler> A wait period that's either hard-coded but different or random within a certain interval
[06:28] <hid3> yeah, but that would mess everything up. E.g. if I insert into a script "sleep 6h" line on one server, and during that window the server reboots, the job wouldn't be executed. Starting it in time would prevent that
[06:29] <hid3> It's hard to imagine that I'm the only one facing such problem
[06:30] <dabbler> Ah, I didn't realize the wait would be so long. Good point. You could get around that, but you're right that there might be an existing tool
[07:55] <ducasse> hid3: have you looked a systemd timer units? pretty sure they have a facility for that
[08:33] <Aavar> Hi
[08:33] <Aavar> Has there been a change in ubuntu where df doesnt show zfs?
[08:34] <Aavar> I have an array that seems to be mounted, but it does not show in df...
[08:47] <Aavar> No, the pool is not mounted...
[08:47] <Aavar> How can I fix that?
[08:48] <Aavar> It is imported, but not mounted for some reason...
[08:52] <Aavar> Got it back :) (great talk :P)
[08:56] <iomari891> greetings, How can I make "apt -y upgrade" automatically choose "ok" for all choices so I can script my update?
[08:57] <ravage> export DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive
[08:57] <ravage> should cover most of it
[08:58] <ravage> you can add as many dpkg options as you please like:
[08:58] <ravage> DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive apt-get dist-upgrade -qq -y -o Dpkg::Use-Pty=0 -o Dpkg::Options::='--force-confdef' -o Dpkg::Options::='--force-confold
[09:06] <yousuf> i
[09:06] <yousuf> iam yousuf kamal
[10:49] <throwthecheese> How do I get autorotation back on my tablet?
[10:52] <throwthecheese> I was about to finish setting up my touch-friendly XFCE configuration when out of the blue autorotation stopped working
[10:54] <throwthecheese> It's been broken on both X11 and Wayland (GNOME) but works fine on Windows
[10:58] <chilversc> In launchpad, is there anywhere that details how a package was built? In particular what options were passed to ./configure? The package I'm mainly interested in is nfs-utils https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nfs-utils
[10:59] <throwthecheese> So far I've tried reinstalling and reconfiguring iio-sensors-proxy and following the instructions detailed here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/1851935, but to no avail
[10:59] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Launchpad bug 1851935 in systemd (Ubuntu) "iio-sensor-proxy can't find i2c-BOSC0200:00/iio:device0" [Undecided, Expired]
[10:59] <tarzeau> chilversc: yes there is
[11:00] <throwthecheese> iio-sensors-proxy.service is up and running yet my screen still won't turn
[11:00] <tarzeau> chilversc: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nfs-utils/1:2.6.2-4ubuntu1/+build/25611701
[11:00] <chilversc> tarzeau: where do I need to click? I've never quite figured out the launchpad site
[11:01] <tarzeau> it's a bit hidden. i find it easier to apt-get source and debuild to get the log or refer to buildd.debian.org (less clicks, but not ubuntu)
[11:04] <chilversc> thanks
[11:11] <throwthecheese> Well, my issue seemed to go away on its own when I deleted the hwdb config file I tried to fix it with and restarted iio-sensor-proxy
[11:56] <David_1_> Hello there, I was about to download a ubuntu server iso from https://ubuntu.com/download/server. I got redirected to a dutch mirror (mirror.nl.datapacket.com) and got a security notice that the SSL certificate has expired on 29/05/2023. What is the right place to report the expired SSL certificate? Is there some kind of mirror coordinator?
[12:08] <ravage> David_1_: #ubuntu-mirrors
[12:09] <ravage> fastest way is an email to mirrors@ubuntu.com
[12:11] <David_1_> Will shoot an e-mail. Thanks!
[12:19] <TomyWork> https://github.com/David-VTUK/Rancher-Packer/blob/main/vSphere/ubuntu_2204/http/user-data I'm using a modified version of this repo (and Hashicorp packer) to build vSphere VM templates for my kubernetes nodes. works really well, but I noticed I the time between the nodes diverged, because I never added any NTP config. The file I linked looks like an Ubuntu autoinstall file. Before I go and write shell code to configure the NTP server, does Ubuntu
[12:19] <TomyWork> autoinstall support doing that for me?
[13:56] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[14:01] <oac_> Hey there, I have a bit of a package reinstallation problem I'm hoping someone here might be able to help with.
[14:02] <BluesKaj> oac_,which package?
[14:02] <oac_> So I installed a PPA which provided specialized versions of apparmor and the kernel. I want to remove those PPAs and reinstall the versions from lunar/main
[14:02] <oac_> The packages are apparmor, dh-apparmor, libapparmor-dev, and libapparmor1
[14:03] <oac_> I removed apparmor, dh-apparmor, and libapparmor-dev, great.
[14:03] <oac_> But I can't remove libapparmor1 because it is required by systemd-sysv
[14:03] <oac_> and I can't reinstall the others because the version doesn't match
[14:04] <BluesKaj> remove the ppa and purge the related packages then do a normal package install,
[14:04] <oac_> I've tried uninstalling with the --allow-remove-essential --allow-change-held-packages and it won't let me uninstall libapparmor1
[14:04] <lotuspsychje> oac_: yeah, the volunteers cant advice on external ppa's
[14:05] <oac_> Technically, it's an internap ppa ;)
[14:05] <lotuspsychje> !ppapurge | oac_
[14:08] <leftyfb> oac_: sudo apt install --reinstall apparmor=3.0.8-1ubuntu2 libapparmor-dev=3.0.8-1ubuntu2 libapparmor1=3.0.8-1ubuntu2 && sudo apt remove --purge dh-apparmor
[14:12] <oac_> leftyfb: that worked, thanks so much!
[14:24] <oac> lotuspsychje: thanks for the ppa-purge suggestion too, TIL, I assume it will help me out of some other mess I make sometime in the future
[14:24] <lotuspsychje> cookie here goes to leftyfb :p
[14:25] <lotuspsychje> oac: just of curiosity, what was your purpose to go replace default apparmor and kernel with ppa versions?
[14:28] <oac> I'm on the snapd team, working on a new apparmor feature that (used to) require particular kernel and apparmor patches. With the new kernel 6.2.0-23.23, those features are included, and snapd vendors apparmor now, so I just wanted to get all the non-standard things off my machine
[14:29] <lotuspsychje> ah i see
[15:08] <Ok> hello all
[15:58] <maya329> Hey guys, anyone has any suggestion for backing up Ubuntu server? I'm looking at Crashplan and I can't get it to work headless T_T
[16:01] <tomreyn> !backuup | maya329
[16:01] <tomreyn> !backup | maya329
[16:01] <leftyfb> maya329: rsync
[16:01] <maya329> Any cloud services I can use cheaply?
[16:02] <leftyfb> maya329: we can't support 3rd party services here. You can ask for opinions in #ubuntu-discuss or #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:03] <maya329> ok thanks!
[16:03] <tomreyn> i'd say borg backup, restic, rsync, bacula are the best tools, but which one to pick will depend on what you needs are.
[16:04] <tomreyn> rsync is not a backup tool by default, but can be one in the right setup
[16:40] <TomyWork> just curious, why is ubuntu-22.04.2-live-server-amd64.iso 34% larger than ubuntu-22.04.1-live-server-amd64.iso?
[16:41] <TomyWork> not concerned about bloat or anything, just curious about what goes into an image that explains this rather large discrepancy
[16:42] <tomreyn> try asking this in #ubuntu-server
[17:51] <naxil> hello
[17:51] <oerheks> :-)
[17:52] <naxil> strange my lubuntu today wan't login normally... the screen for login stuck/freeze and only way is ctrl+alt F2 and startx.... but after chrome not work... etc...
[18:02] <MyComputer> leftyfb,  is my hero.
[18:03] <leftyfb> MyComputer: got VM's working with LXD?
[18:03] <MyComputer> still using kvm till i can learn lxd, thanks
[18:04] <MyComputer> its all new to me but looks great, building another machine where ill learn it.
[18:04] <leftyfb> MyComputer: so how exactly did I help you?
[18:04] <MyComputer> thanks for turning me on to it.
[18:04] <MyComputer> by fixing my config
[18:05] <oerheks> !cookie | leftyfb
[18:05] <naxil>      idk why i can't login anymore
[18:05] <naxil> who can help me?
[18:05] <oerheks> naxil,  try sudo apt update && sudo apt install -f
[18:06] <oerheks> maybe some packages are not fully installed.
[18:07] <MyComputer> have a good day folks.
[18:07] <leftyfb> !rootirc | root__
[18:56] <u8353v[m]> _**Are Kubuntu KDE Plasma issues welcome here?
[18:56] <u8353v[m]> Or this room only addresses Gnome?**_
[18:59] <sarnold> yeah those are fine, but there's also a #kubuntu that might work better if you started with a kubuntu installer
 "yeah those are fine, but there's..." <- i prefer to use this room only than the flavours one.
[19:12]  * u8353v[m] uploaded an image: (58KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/MVfSlcXViXipedhfzgigdLAb/image.png >
[19:12] <u8353v[m]> How can i change my digital clock font size?... (full message at <https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/libera.chat/2981658811bcf021b780b22e8c361b652f01b157>)
[19:13] <oerheks> keep it all in one line. your message is broken, and we need to click something for the rest?
[19:14] <u8353v[m]> oerheks: oh sorry.
[19:14] <u8353v[m]> let me fix it
[19:14] <u8353v[m]> How can i change my digital clock font size?... (full message at <https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/libera.chat/2981658811bcf021b780b22e8c361b652f01b157>)
[19:15] <sarnold> yeah, a lot of users aren't going to click a link to go view the rest of a message
[19:15] <oerheks> we see this
[19:15] <oerheks> [21:14:58] <u8353v[m]> How can i change my digital clock font size?... (full message at <https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/libera.chat/2981658811bcf021b780b22e8c361b652f01b157>)
[19:15] <sarnold> oerheks: I wonder if his client mangles that message on the way back
[19:15]  * u8353v[m] uploaded an image: (58KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/ZBBWIeEBEnbEWboAgZGJiZWe/image.png >
[19:16] <u8353v[m]> sarnold: so far i haven't received negative remarks on this.
[19:16] <u8353v[m]> i use element!
[19:16] <oerheks> sarnold, and echo-ing.
[19:16] <u8353v[m]> s/i use element!/i use **element**!/
[19:16] <oerheks> what happens if you click font style?
[19:17] <u8353v[m]> oerheks: there is no font style option
[19:17] <u8353v[m]> are you ond gnome or kde?
[19:17] <u8353v[m]> s/ond/on/
[19:18] <oerheks> i see that option clearly.
[19:18] <u8353v[m]> oerheks: how did you do this? to make the text display in the browser?
[19:18] <u8353v[m]> what's the trick?
[19:18] <oerheks> time to join #kubuntu. maybe with a normal irc client.
[19:19] <u8353v[m]> oerheks: i wanted to stick with this room only but i understand 🫡
[19:20] <u8353v[m]> so far matrix/element worked fine
[19:20] <oerheks> not for us.
[19:20] <sarnold> u8353v[m]: yeah, that's why I'm telling you now ;) a lot of people will just *not bother* -- they won't click, they won't tell you, etc.
[19:20] <u8353v[m]> you recommend https://libera.chat/?
[19:20] <u8353v[m]> sarnold: i know
[19:20] <leftyfb> u8353v[m]: the point of joining #kubuntu is it's all kubuntu users who are familiar with kubuntu/KDE who might know how to help you better than the majority of people here
[19:21] <u8353v[m]> indeed.
[19:21] <u8353v[m]> i'd believe most people here use gnome.
[19:22] <u8353v[m]> i like to keep my options simple.
[19:22] <u8353v[m]> u recommend this client? https://libera.chat/
[19:22] <sarnold> it probably works well enough for short use; I prefer irssi, but I've been using it for 20 years or so. if I were picking something from scratch today I'd probably try weechat first.
[19:23] <oerheks> that is the official web portal
[19:23] <leftyfb> I prefer hexchat
[19:23] <leftyfb> I used to use irssi and weechat for a little while
[19:23] <leftyfb> it's all personal preference
[19:23] <oerheks> quassel for KDE ?
[19:24] <u8353v[m]> sarnold: will give weechat and irssi a go!
[19:25] <sarnold> I hear good things about quassel, yeah, but it's not for me :)
[19:25] <octav1a> quassel <3
[19:51] <AssTractionHero> Konversation seems to work pretty well for me with KDE. In fact, I'm pretty satisfied with all the embedded applications.
[19:52] <AssTractionHero> Also, hello, #ubuntu. Long-time KDE / Kubuntu user, first time caller. Good job, KDE guys.
[19:59] <AssTractionHero> Did not know about #kubuntu, joining now.
[20:08] <snappy> just a shot in the dark, we have a standard ubuntu 22.04 vultr instance running and i was wondering if there's some kind of thing like filesystem compression that could be enabled post-setup
[20:08] <snappy> looks like we're using ext4
[20:09] <leftyfb> not post-setup
[20:10] <leftyfb> and even with pre-setup, unlikely since it's more than likely a VPN with shared storage
[20:11] <snappy> damn
[21:21] <Cougar> I have realised 1 thing -  being a retired electronics engineer -  Nothing is absolute / right ? / well, that being said, i realised that electronics are more accurate than measured electronics. - linux / like any software is so buggy, that both engineers as well as devs have a bogus job / aks / rendering absolutes.
[21:23] <oerheks> Cougar, how is that related to ubuntu support?
[21:23] <Cougar> satans A.I. will save the day /  being software is an in-absolute / finally i can sleep at nite and say to my self / "will it boot?"
[21:23] <oerheks> !ontopic
[21:24] <Cougar> oerheks,   probably nothing at all, just sayin -  my apologies.
[21:27] <Cougar> after repairing anything electronics / for both the american community / as well as the military / i have concluded that ALL software is inherently bunk /  have a good day
[22:57] <gebbione> I just realised that the .bash_profile is not sourced automatically in my shell. Is that something expected or is it likely that I have somehow broken this in the past and forgot about it?
[22:59] <gebbione> never mind, i just read why
[23:31] <wfburton> hello
[23:31] <wfburton> any dev's here
[23:32] <sarnold> irc tends to work best with more concrete questions
[23:33] <wfburton> software and updates / Ubuntu Software option ( Installable from cd-rom or dvd.  Why no USB support media?
[23:35] <sarnold> probably usb is better served via something like apt-offline than with apt-cdrom
[23:35] <jeremy31> wfburton: what driver do you need?
[23:36] <wfburton> I want to upgrade with Software & Update GUI but there's no support for USB?
[23:37] <wfburton> Only has cd-rom or dvd
[23:37] <sarnold> yeah, nearly every computer has internet access these days, so there isn't a whole lot of focus on machines that have to use floppies / cd-r / usb memory sticks  to shuttle specific packages back and forth
[23:38] <sarnold> apt-cdrom was written ages ago, when internet access wasn't as common
[23:38] <sarnold> and no one has updated it to support read-write media like usb sticks; apt-offline can do that, but that isn't integrated into the update guis, etc
[23:38] <wfburton> Maybe ubuntu can add USB to the list
[23:40] <sarnold> you're the third person I've seen ask for it in the last ten years; I suspect it's just not common enough to implement
[23:41] <wfburton> Can I go 22.04.2 LTS to 23.04 as an upgrade and not a reinstall
[23:42] <sarnold> yes, that should work fine
[23:43] <mybalzitch> be aware you can't go back to the LTS release though
[23:43] <wfburton> k I'll give it .. yeah I know
[23:43] <mybalzitch> you'd have to wait for the next LTS release and upgrade to that
[23:43] <mybalzitch> kk cool
[23:43] <wfburton> so I have to wait for LTS to come out
[23:44] <mybalzitch> if you want to go back to a LTS release
[23:45] <mybalzitch> like 22.04 (LTS) -> 23.04 -> 24.04 (LTS)
[23:46] <wfburton> k  I'm having so issues with 22.04.2 LTS.  GCC won't update and also I have unmet dependencies but doesn't said which ones..
[23:47] <wfburton> ok thanks for the info... have a good night