| wontfix[m] | Bill, you are free to have it autologin and also have an encrypted disk password | 00:00 |
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| wontfix[m] | Why would an OS ask you about what DE you want as a default? It is one more thing to break and added user friction. | 00:02 |
| wontfix[m] | Is chromeos_pstore.service used for generic ACPI platform operations or chromeos hardware? | 00:09 |
| ravage | long gone | 00:14 |
| oerheks | questions about chromeos_pstore.service ? where does this comes from? | 00:14 |
| oerheks | not from installing chrome browser | 00:14 |
| wontfix[m] | The service is running in systemd | 00:21 |
| oerheks | on a chromebook? | 00:21 |
| wontfix[m] | No | 00:21 |
| oerheks | not in ubuntu | 00:21 |
| wontfix[m] | Yes in ubuntu | 00:22 |
| oerheks | i find none, explain? | 00:22 |
| wontfix[m] | systemd-analyze blame | grep chromeos | 00:22 |
| oerheks | huh? what does that do .. | 00:23 |
| wontfix[m] | https://github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/master/drivers/platform/chrome/chromeos_pstore.c | 00:25 |
| oerheks | persistent storage on x86 ChromeOS devices. It can be used to store away console logs and crash information across reboots. | 00:26 |
| wontfix[m] | Which is why I was asking if this was abstracted into something useful in userspace or if it runs just in case and is lacking a conditional way to turn itself off for non CrOS hardware platforms and VMs. | 00:27 |
| oerheks | weird, i find nothing what that service actually does modprobe@chromeos_pstore.service | 00:37 |
| ravage | it tries to load it from /usr/lib/systemd/system/systemd-pstore.service | 00:38 |
| ravage | but the module never gets loaded if you are not on chromeos | 00:38 |
| ravage | the driver was added in kernel 5.19 | 00:38 |
| oerheks | i am not on a chromeos. | 00:38 |
| oerheks | only connected to my android phone via chrome browser. | 00:39 |
| ravage | does not really matter | 00:39 |
| ravage | it tries to load the module | 00:39 |
| ravage | Wants=modprobe@efi_pstore.service modprobe@chromeos_pstore.service modprobe@ramoops.service modprobe@pstore_zone.service modprobe@pstore_blk.service | 00:39 |
| oerheks | maybe it is a part of accounts services | 00:39 |
| ravage | my system registers the efi_pstore | 00:40 |
| ravage | from that list | 00:40 |
| wontfix[m] | Right so I'm wondering if the chromeos one is being loaded accidentally. | 00:45 |
| ravage | im almost sure it is not loaded on your system | 00:47 |
| ravage | it will not show up in lsmod | 00:47 |
| wontfix[m] | The service | 00:48 |
| wontfix[m] | 88ms modprobe@chromeos_pstore.service | 00:48 |
| ravage | see above | 00:48 |
| wontfix[m] | systemd-analyze blame | grep pstore | 00:49 |
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| dsd | hi im trying to find and install the propriety nvidia 340x driver(for nvidia geforce8500gt) because on nouveau i have a pretty unstable perfomance.is there an easy and safe way to do it in ubuntu,i also found out maybe i have to get an older kenel but not sure | 02:32 |
| JanC | dsd: nvidia-340 is available on all supported Ubuntu-versions; it should be listed under Additional Drivers in the Software Updates dialog, I think? | 02:37 |
| dsd | JanC i have open the "software and updates" and on the additional after searching it says "No additional drivers available" | 02:38 |
| JanC | oh, wait, I see on newer versions that package pulls in nouveau... :-/ | 02:39 |
| dsd | sorry what do you mean by that? | 02:40 |
| dsd | does that mean that the 340xx package is not supported on ubuntu? | 02:42 |
| JanC | it means that only Ubuntu 20.04 still has the real nvidia-340 package | 02:42 |
| oerheks | even the driver ppa gives no 340, https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa?field.series_filter=jammy | 02:42 |
| oerheks | correct, 20.04 https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa?field.series_filter=focal | 02:43 |
| JanC | https://packages.ubuntu.com/focal/nvidia-340 | 02:43 |
| oerheks | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-340 | 02:43 |
| oerheks | maybe not on wayland | 02:44 |
| oerheks | x11 only?> | 02:44 |
| JanC | https://packages.ubuntu.com/jammy/nvidia-340 just installs nouveau instead of the real driver | 02:44 |
| dsd | so does that mean that i will have to install/download another distro with an older kernel? | 02:45 |
| oerheks | yes, but bionic is EOL | 02:46 |
| oerheks | !bionic | 02:46 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu 18.04 (Bionic Beaver) was the 28th release of Ubuntu. Support ended May 31st, 2023. See !eol, !pro and https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2023-May/000290.html | 02:46 |
| JanC | 20.04 is still supported | 02:46 |
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| dsd | so if i get the iso from here https://releases.ubuntu.com/focal/ and select the desktop image will i have the 340 driver? | 02:48 |
| JanC | dsd: what do you mean by "unstable performance"? | 02:48 |
| JanC | dsd: you can get it fro mAdditional Drivers then, yes | 02:48 |
| dsd | JanC well i get short screen tearing and stutter even for something as switching windows sometimes and also on games i get untextured graphics and crashes | 02:49 |
| dsd | JanC i remember like 2-3 years ago maybe i was able to get the driver from "additional drivers" and on the same games i had no issue. | 02:50 |
| ubuntu | test | 02:53 |
| dsd | by the way will have any problem having an older ubuntu version? | 02:53 |
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| octav1a | wow! Finally to meet the one and only "ubuntu"! | 02:53 |
| Guest4027 | Hi, I would like to create a bootable USB, but selecting the .iso file doesn't add it to the Ubuntu program? https://ubuntu.com/tutorials/create-a-usb-stick-on-ubuntu#6-installation-complete | 02:53 |
| akik | which ubuntu release has support for nvidia-340? | 03:05 |
| akik | i found that it could be 22.10 but i'm not sure | 03:06 |
| akik | because it says "kinetic (22.10) (misc): Transitional package for xserver-xorg-video-nouveau" why nouveau? | 03:07 |
| Guest4027 | akik, Ubuntu 22.04 can't handle nvidia. My monitor has wrong resolution. | 03:08 |
| xangua | Guest4027: I personally find Ventoy more useful (you can add multiple Linux iso's, no need to format USB drive, just drag and drop) https://ventoy.net/en/index.html | 03:10 |
| Guest4027 | xangua, thanks, just need simple solution to make Proxmox.iso a bootable USB. | 03:10 |
| Guest4027 | I solved it https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-make-a-bootable-usb-from-an-iso-in-linux | 03:24 |
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| wontfix[m] | So I'm looking at the plymouth freedesktop repo and I noticed that the throbber.svg doesn't exist and isn't referenced in any file. Is Ubuntu actually using the svg or the pngs for the throbber? ply-throbber.c makes it seem like it is ranges of pngs. | 04:39 |
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| al1r4d | Guest4027, just use `dd` command :) | 06:18 |
| weedmic | I have an update "solid state storage technology corporation cl4-3d512-q1..." - I think this is a firmware update and I must apply it via the bios. Is this accurate? If yes, where is the file so I can put it on a usb stick? | 06:26 |
| weedmic | whole message "solid state storage technology corporation cl4-3d512-q11 nvme ssstc 512gb" | 06:35 |
| weedmic | answer was fwupdmgr | 06:48 |
| tomreyn | "must apply it via the bios" was maybe a bit misleading there | 06:55 |
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| weedmic | what am I looking for here? if "." is in the path? https://www.tenable.com/audits/items/CIS_Amazon_Linux_v2.1.0_L1.audit:1dfd5fccc07886f2196d980a6405052e | 08:12 |
| tomreyn | weedmic: how's that ubuntu related? | 08:14 |
| lotuspsychje | think i found a bug on the default gnome screenshot function, lets say you want to make a screenshot of a picture, the picture has left/right/turn arrows that wont go away until you made your screenshot | 08:35 |
| weedmic | it's a step to hardening ubuntu by tenable | 08:36 |
| weedmic | tomreyn: ^ | 08:37 |
| lotuspsychje | tested on ubuntu desktop 22.04, https://imgur.com/a/6ZtE4i7 see if anyone can reproduce that | 08:38 |
| tomreyn | weedmic: you're applying the CIS benchmark for AWS Linux, though | 08:38 |
| weedmic | have you a better one? perhaps more germaine? I'm almost done, only about 13 steps left (so I'm kind of hoping nope) | 08:40 |
| tomreyn | https://www.tenable.com/audits/CIS_Ubuntu_22.04_LTS_v1.0.0_Server_L2 | 08:41 |
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| tomreyn | it's not "better", it's the one that matches, unlike the one you are using now. | 08:42 |
| tomreyn | that's if you're using ubuntu 22.04 server | 08:42 |
| weedmic | will finish first, then look at it | 08:44 |
| lotuspsychje | i created bug #2023473 on the screenshot tool/EOG see if anyone can confirm that | 09:47 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu- Bug 2023473 in eog (Ubuntu) "arrows and rotate icons do not autohide when making a screenshot" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2023473 | 09:47 | |
| lotuspsychje | with flameshot i dont get the bug, so prob related to gnomes screenshot tool^ | 09:56 |
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| seer__ | I have tabs that wont show so I cant get to them in chrome and one is playing music. I liked it when clicking on chrome in the dock would open up tabs consecutively. -- this is a bug not a feature. | 10:52 |
| weedmic | seer__: top sort by programme - close the one that did not close properly, you can do it within top (or remember the pid and do "kill pid" | 10:54 |
| weedmic | fyi, happened to me last night with runescape, which did not close properly and we keep hearing fishing in the background of a movie :D | 10:55 |
| seer__ | I made the dock tiny, I made the icons tiny. Neigher helped. | 10:56 |
| seer__ | weedmic, I did not understand what you recommended. | 10:56 |
| seer__ | i will killall chrome -0 | 10:57 |
| seer__ | totally no understanding but who cares it worked. | 10:59 |
| seer__ | TY | 10:59 |
| Apachez | "did you turn it off and on again?" ;) | 11:06 |
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| weedmic | seer__: similar to what you did, only I generally find the actual pid (or kill it in htop). | 12:01 |
| Guest61 | I'm on Ubuntu 20.04.6 LTS . do-release-upgrade is hanging; and doesn't appear to even be doing much. I'm watching a process list in htop and there's very little activity. | 12:26 |
| Guest61 | when I strace the process, I get a long pause on something that's running some futex wait stuff; I assume it's associated with python multi-threading. But, then it continues on and the trace information fills up the screen. | 12:27 |
| Guest61 | syslog shows nothing useful. | 12:28 |
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| tomreyn | Guest61: how about dmesg, or the combined logs in the systemd journal ("journalctl" command) | 12:42 |
| tomreyn | Guest61: did you already start the release upgrade? from 20.04.6 to 22.04, i assume? which stage did it happen in? what's in the dist upgrade log? | 12:44 |
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| BluesKaj | Hi all | 13:51 |
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| DynamiteDan | greetings. Hown can I check the temperature of a NVMe device on ubuntu? | 14:26 |
| u8353v[m] | **Linux Mint** with apt update pulls info from canonical servers right? | 14:27 |
| u8353v[m] | Mint says it respects user privacy/anonymity. | 14:27 |
| u8353v[m] | How does it differ from Ubuntu? | 14:27 |
| tarzeau | DynamiteDan: try nvme smart-log /dev/nvme0n1 ? | 14:28 |
| jeremy31 | u8353v[m]: ask at ircs://irc.spotchat.org/#linuxmint-chat | 14:28 |
| DynamiteDan | i will check | 14:28 |
| DynamiteDan | it worked | 14:30 |
| DynamiteDan | thank you tarzeau | 14:31 |
| wontfix[m] | So I'm looking at the plymouth freedesktop repo and I noticed that the throbber.svg doesn't exist and isn't referenced in any file. Is Ubuntu actually using the svg or the pngs for the throbber? ply-throbber.c makes it seem like it is ranges of pngs. | 16:14 |
| oerheks | !find throbber.svg | 16:19 |
| ubottu | File throbber.svg found in plymouth-theme-edubuntu, plymouth-theme-spinner, plymouth-theme-ubuntucinnamon-spinner, pychess | 16:19 |
| oerheks | plymouth freedesktop repo ? | 16:19 |
| wontfix[m] | https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/plymouth/plymouth/-/tree/main | 16:26 |
| oerheks | sorry to hear that such repo does not have it, not our problem | 16:27 |
| wontfix[m] | Nor in https://packages.debian.org/bookworm/amd64/plymouth-themes/filelist or https://packages.debian.org/bullseye/amd64/plymouth-themes/filelist | 16:27 |
| wontfix[m] | I'm wondering why it is there at all? Is it actually being used at all? | 16:27 |
| Eickmeyer | wontfix[m]: Did you try actually downloading the source archive for Plymouth in Ubuntu? Because as someone who makes the Edubuntu and Ubuntu Studio Plymouth themes that depend on plymouth-theme-spinner which uses throbber.svg, I assure you, it's very much used. | 16:31 |
| Eickmeyer | And by downloading, I mean inspecting. And just what are you trying to figure out anyway? | 16:32 |
| wontfix[m] | Oh I was trying to fix something upstream and just noticed it | 16:33 |
| wontfix[m] | Which is why I asked | 16:33 |
| Eickmeyer | Well, Ubuntu has a modified, patched version, but yes, it's used. | 16:33 |
| wontfix[m] | kk | 16:33 |
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| Chunkyz | Hi! How do I set my battery info via terminal/sakura? I can right click with xfce and see it that way but want it in a command line type of output? | 17:16 |
| Chunkyz | s/set/see/ | 17:16 |
| oerheks | something with dmidecode, i guess | 17:17 |
| Chunkyz | Nope, that lists other stuff like SSD etc. | 17:18 |
| jhutchins | Chunkyz: Maybe something like this: https://www.linuxjournal.com/content/how-check-battery-status-using-linux-command-line | 17:20 |
| oerheks | upower, acpi .. | 17:20 |
| oerheks | indeed dmidecode gives specs only | 17:20 |
| Chunkyz | acpi just shows the percent and remaining... | 17:22 |
| Chunkyz | jhutchins: command not found. | 17:22 |
| leftyfb | Chunkyz: what exactly are you trying to accomplish? | 17:22 |
| jhutchins | Chunkyz: Imagine that, a useful linux utility that's not already installed. | 17:23 |
| jhutchins | !info upower | 17:23 |
| ubottu | upower (0.99.20-2, lunar): abstraction for power management. In component main, is optional. Built by upower. Size 78 kB / 396 kB | 17:23 |
| Chunkyz | jhutchins: percentage: 0% (should be ignored) | 17:23 |
| jhutchins | Chunkyz: I presume you never got as far as acpi. | 17:23 |
| Chunkyz | not accurate..... | 17:23 |
| leftyfb | jhutchins: all linux utilities are useful to someone. That doesn't mean all of them get installed by default | 17:23 |
| Chunkyz | leftyfb: I wanted to see what xfce tells me. capacity, capacity when full etc. | 17:24 |
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| oerheks | then use the tool you already have? seems more advanced than acpi | 17:24 |
| Chunkyz | no because I'm using a different wm than xfce. | 17:25 |
| Chunkyz | Idk what it's called to look it up. | 17:25 |
| Chunkyz | Hence me asking... :-) | 17:25 |
| leftyfb | Chunkyz: when using upower, did you point it to the correct device? | 17:26 |
| Chunkyz | Yes... | 17:26 |
| leftyfb | Chunkyz: tried this? upower -i /org/freedesktop/UPower/devices/battery_BAT0 | 17:27 |
| Chunkyz | well, I don't think so. Idk where the battery battery is located. | 17:28 |
| Chunkyz | That just tells me 0 and 1970 lol | 17:28 |
| leftyfb | Chunkyz: the article jhutchins shared with you told you how to find the correct device | 17:28 |
| Chunkyz | amazing! thank you. just what I wanted. thanks! | 17:29 |
| leftyfb | Chunkyz: what was the issue? | 17:29 |
| Chunkyz | I didn't do upower -i `upower -e | grep 'BAT'` | 17:30 |
| Chunkyz | now onto another question, how do I change the hz of my monitor? | 17:30 |
| leftyfb | Chunkyz: it's helpful to read the entire article when people give you links. Not just run highlighted commands | 17:30 |
| Chunkyz | windows I can set it to 30/40 but unsure in ubuntu... | 17:31 |
| leftyfb | Chunkyz: xrandr, but that won't work with wayland I think so you'll need to check that first | 17:31 |
| leftyfb | Chunkyz: https://askubuntu.com/questions/59621/how-to-change-the-monitors-refresh-rate # first result on google for "linux command line change monitor refresh rate" | 17:32 |
| Chunkyz | how do I know if I'm running wayland? | 17:42 |
| Chunkyz | oh whilst I'm here (sorry for the loads of questions) how do I fully disable bluetooth? | 17:42 |
| Chunkyz | I ain't going to use it, you see... | 17:43 |
| oerheks | type xrandr | 17:44 |
| oerheks | the output will say something wayland bla bla | 17:44 |
| navap_ | for bluetooth it will be systemctl status bluetooth.service | 17:45 |
| Chunkyz | nvm, bye.#/part | 17:45 |
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| Crell | Hi folks. I've an older 1 TB HDD in a RAID5 array that's dying and needs to be replaced. I'm debating if it's a reasonable time to upgrade the whole array. Replacing it with the same as is there now is about $50; I know a larger drive won't be used larger until all the drives are replaced with something larger. What about switching to SSD? Is | 19:45 |
| Crell | having one SSD drive and the others HDD problematic? Any recommendations on the best way to cleanly fix/upgrade it? | 19:45 |
| Crell | (It's been like 8 years since I set the thing up; it's software RAID 5, and that's about as much as I remember, frankly.) | 19:45 |
| wontfix[m] | ssd for boot and hdd for storage is common even on NAS systems | 19:48 |
| Crell | I don't have it split that way currently; I'm hoping to do it without having to do a reinstall. | 19:48 |
| Crell | (Home server, light load; most of what it does is run a personal Nextcloud instance.) | 19:49 |
| wontfix[m] | a tb SSD is cheap if that's all you need | 19:49 |
| Crell | Would running a RAID array with a mix of SSD and HDD cause an issue? | 19:50 |
| Crell | My thought is to replace the dying drive with a slightly larger SSD, let it rebuild, then over time replace the other two with SSDs and let it take the full disk space then. | 19:51 |
| wontfix[m] | Even if it would let you, you're going to lose speed | 19:52 |
| wontfix[m] | You want to constantly wait on those slow writes or reads? | 19:52 |
| Crell | Well, only until I replace the whole array. | 19:52 |
| wontfix[m] | "There is nothing as permanent as a temporary fix" | 19:53 |
| wontfix[m] | These days you're better off without automated backups to other drives or locations | 19:53 |
| Crell | Most of the drive is nightly synced to a remote backup service. I just don't want to have to reconfigure all the software after doing a reinstall. :-( | 19:55 |
| Crell | (Also trying to spread out the cost.) | 19:55 |
| wontfix[m] | Sounds like an XY problem | 19:58 |
| Crell | huh? | 20:00 |
| wontfix[m] | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XY_problem | 20:01 |
| Crell | Problem: I have a dying hard drive that needs to be replaced, and I want to not do an OS reinstall to replace it. I'm trying to sus out the options for doing so. | 20:02 |
| Crell | Replacing it with one of the same model is option A. I'm trying to determine what options B and C are. | 20:02 |
| Crell | Eg, if I replace all 3 drives over the course of the next 3 months with larger drives or SSDs, does that cause any issues along the way? | 20:03 |
| wontfix[m] | None of this is Ubuntu specific and Options aren't a thing until you establish a goal. | 20:03 |
| wontfix[m] | Goal is to have backup storage within X budget over Y time I presume and using Z time to accomplish. | 20:04 |
| Crell | I literally just said what the goal is. Not having a dead drive. Secondary goal: Improving the hardware in the array while I'm at it. | 20:04 |
| wontfix[m] | You presuppose the need for a drive array at all. | 20:04 |
| wontfix[m] | This is offtopic though | 20:04 |
| Crell | "Continuing to have a local RAID5 array in this computer" is a requirement of the process. Changing that is not on the table. | 20:05 |
| rema | When I connect my laptop to my LAN a domain sometimes resolves to a local IP (which it should) and sometimes to my network's external IP (which it only should when the laptop is resolving the IP when connected to any other network). | 20:51 |
| rema | When I issue "resolvectl status" then I see an IPv6 DNS listed. | 20:51 |
| rema | I assume that the resolve system jumps between the IPv4 DNS server and the IPv6 one. | 20:53 |
| rema | How do I get rid of the IPv6 DNS server (assuming that it is the reason for resolving the external IP of the domain)? | 20:53 |
| jeremy31 | rema: Network Manager settings, IPv6 set to ignore or disable? | 20:54 |
| rema | Do I need IPv6 to be configured in any network I connect my laptop to? | 20:54 |
| rbox | do you want to connect to hosts over ipv6? | 20:55 |
| rema | rbox, Whenever I enter an IP its IPv4. | 20:55 |
| rema | *it's | 20:55 |
| rbox | and when you use a hostname? | 20:56 |
| rema | rbox, Then I see no IP :) I don't get your question. | 20:56 |
| rbox | hostnames resolve to ips... it might resolve to an ipv4... it might resolve to an ipv6 | 20:57 |
| rema | rbox, If I want a hostname in my LAN to be resolved to an IP then it is always IPv4. | 20:57 |
| rbox | and what abou a hostname on the internet? | 20:58 |
| rema | rbox, I don't know if there are any domains that only resolve to IPv6. I assume if there are any then I need IPv6 DNS. | 20:59 |
| rbox | okay well, theres your answer | 21:01 |
| rema | rbox, So, the answer is "Maybe you need IPv6 DNS, maybe you don't"? | 21:02 |
| rbox | pretty much | 21:03 |
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