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spaksHelp please: I know this is Ubuntu but I also have a debian channel here but I have to be logged in to join . I've already registered my nickname but everytime I try to log in irc.libera.chat it throws an error00:08
sarnoldspaks: the folks in #libera are probably better able to help you diagnose your login problems00:11
spaksOk much thanks 🙏00:12
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penguin__hello02:16
robingrudd> Is there anyone online? I'm a newbie and I need help configuring slapd for a school project. Actually, I just need to configure sha-256 hashing for passwords on slapd, but I don't know how because it seems that LDAP v3 doesn't support it natively. I've tried so many tutorials on the internet, but here I am.02:23
sarnoldhttps://www.openldap.org/faq/data/cache/1467.html holy cow this is frustrating02:25
sarnold.. and this looks like old garbage https://www.openldap.org/doc/admin24/security.html02:30
sarnoldrobingrud: maybe take a look at 389ds? it looks less garbage https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-us/red_hat_directory_server/11/html/configuration_command_and_file_reference/plug_in_implemented_server_functionality_reference#password-storage-schemes02:30
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robingrudtks guys, like ive said im a newbie and im trying to get better and learn from this lesson... im gonna check out these links and try to finish the task.02:35
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pydev1hello08:52
pydev1i am installing mariadb using the official Mariadb repository08:52
pydev1when i run apt update i get08:52
pydev1N: Skipping acquire of configured file 'main/binary-i386/Packages' as repository 'https://mirror.mva-n.net/mariadb/repo/11.0/ubuntu jammy InRelease' doesn't support architecture 'i386'08:52
pydev1i am using this configuration08:52
pydev1https://mariadb.org/download/?t=repo-config&d=22.04+%22jammy%22&v=11.0&r_m=mva08:52
pydev1is there a way to remove that warning ?08:52
pydev1if i do apt search mariadb-server08:55
pydev1i get08:55
pydev1mariadb-server/unknown 1:11.0.2+maria~ubu2204 amd6408:55
pydev1"unknown" ??08:55
belstpydev1: you can add arch=amd64 to the options list inside your .list file (if there is no options list, eg signed-by you can just add it after the deb. eg: deb [arch=amd64] url jammy main08:58
pydev1belst, on that page i see that i need to create a .sources file where i copied this: https://bpa.st/ERNQU08:59
pydev1can i change it ?08:59
pydev1how can i change it ?08:59
belstjust add a new line with: Arch: amd6409:00
MadLambI am having an audio problem with Microsoft Teams when I am wearing my pixel buds. Sometimes I am inaudible or with a lot of background noise. I'd appreciate some advice on how to debug or if there something I can do so it just works?09:04
Jaydomis kubuntu as stable as ubuntu09:05
weedmicJaydom: they are the same, only the DE is different.  I find KDE to be widely used and there are a lot of widgets, etc.09:06
pydev1belst, i am trying09:07
weedmicMadLamb: on the speaker near the clock, did you set the output to the pixel buds?  maybe the output is misdirected?09:07
pydev1belst, same problem09:08
pydev1N: Skipping acquire of configured file 'main/binary-i386/Packages' as repository 'https://mirror.mva-n.net/mariadb/repo/11.0/ubuntu jammy InRelease' doesn't support architecture 'i386'09:08
pydev1N: Skipping acquire of configured file 'main/debug/binary-i386/Packages' as repository 'https://mirror.mva-n.net/mariadb/repo/11.0/ubuntu jammy InRelease' doesn't support architecture 'i386'09:08
belstpydev1: might be you have to write Architectures: instead of just Arch: not sure tbh. haven't used the deb822 style yet09:08
MadLambweedmic, to be honest I am having issues for some time already so I already played a lot with the settings, its nothing so basic like that.09:08
pydev1try09:09
pydev1belst, yes!!09:09
pydev1works09:09
MadLambweedmic, the output was correct. I also switched from A2DP to HFP09:09
pydev1belst, why i see mariadb-server/unknown 1:11.0.2+maria~ubu2204 amd6409:09
weedmicI sometimes have issues with double sound, in that case, i use ksysmon, stop the process for pulse, wait five seconds and start it again.  it might take 5 tries.09:10
pydev1"unknown" ??09:10
pydev1after apt search mariadb-server09:10
belstare u on jammy? it should just say jammy tbh. dunno why it says unkown09:12
pydev1yes 22.0409:12
pydev1belst, do you think is safe :D09:18
belstprobably ^^09:30
pydev1belst, another question, i usually want to create an home for each website i am running, so each website has its home, user/group and then i add the user to www-data is it possible to add an home inside another home? i mean www-data usually creates the home in /var/www09:37
pydev1can i create /var/www/website1 /var/www/website209:37
pydev1with website1:website1 and website2:website209:37
belstoof, are u using nginx? u'd have to have a separate pool for each website then. I wouldn't nest home folders tho. probably works but might make things complicated09:40
belstI guess instead of having different pools you could also use ACL to give the correct permissions for the webserver09:40
pydev1belst, yes nginx09:43
pydev1belst, do you have a guide i can follow?09:43
pydev1maybe i can use /home/website1   etc09:44
belstnot really09:44
belstyeah sure09:44
pydev1belst, i do not know what is the common way to do that but i also read that /opt is used09:46
pydev1too09:46
belstThere is no real common way, just the way it makes the most sense for your usecase09:55
belstso /home/website1 sounds reasonable09:55
pydev1perfect09:56
pydev1then i also think that each website must have its user09:56
pydev1user1:www-data09:56
pydev1user2:www-data09:56
belstyou can also just have 1 user /home/websites and then put each of them into /home/websites/{website1,website2} and so on09:59
pydev1belst, here the problem is that maybe a website can change something into another if i use the same user on all the website10:00
pydev1no ?10:00
pydev1*websites10:00
belstpossibly yes10:00
pydev1for that reason i think that i should create a user for each website, and maybe yes put everything inside /home/websites/{homes_of websites}10:01
belstbut if you give the group write permissions you have the same problem again10:01
pydev1no www-data can only read10:01
pydev1but yes it means that a website can read the config on another website (maybe file with passwords etc)10:02
pydev1so it is not a 100% safe solution10:02
pydev1can i not "block" the user to go outside its home ?10:02
belstalso might not work depending on which kinds of websites u have10:02
belstthe webserver doesnt care which user owns sth as long as it can read stuff10:02
pydev1belst, www-data should also have write permissions to /media folders too10:02
belstit's the webserver that does all the stuff10:02
belstnot the user the files belong to10:03
pydev1belst, yes but lets suppose you have website1 with a pho script that read a file inside another website (another home)10:03
pydev1can i block such attemps ?10:03
pydev1belst, the php file has specific permissions so if the user that is running php is the same everywhere it means that it can read/Write etc10:03
pydev1so i am thinking if there is a way to block an user to do stuff only inside its home10:04
belstthe php files permission don't matter in this case10:04
pydev1not outside10:04
belstit's the permissions of the user the php executable runs10:04
pydev1belst, why not? sure but i run it in php-fpm i have a pool of configurations where i can se the correct user:group for each website10:04
belstyou need a new pool for each website then10:05
pydev1but here same thing if it runs with user:www-data permissions it means that it can read other things inside the filesystem10:05
pydev1belst, yes sure10:05
belstjust dont use the www-data group then10:05
belstjust use user:user and run the fpm pool with that aswell10:05
belstand set o-r on everything so noone can read stuff10:05
belstexcept user10:06
belstsame for nginx if u want it to server static files10:06
pydev1hmmm ok interesting... and...what about if a have folders like /media where we usually save uploaded files etc..10:06
pydev1exactly for serving static files too10:06
pydev1how can i do that if i set user:user10:06
pydev1?10:06
belstu can either use acls or have a common group with write on /media10:07
belstbut not on the other folders10:07
pydev1so basically what we are saying is...run everything with user:user except stats (js/css) and /media where there are uploaded files contents10:08
pydev1but it is not a clear solution because for example if i run php with user:user than i CANT work on uploaded content if they have www-data:www-data10:08
pydev1belst, i need to understand if i can run nginx with the same user:group10:10
pydev1if it is possible i win, becuase i have php and nginx with the same permissions10:11
vcvhey10:16
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pydev1what command should i use to create an user with no nome no login ...basically nothing12:51
pydev1:D12:51
tarzeaupydev1: adduser with the right parameters12:51
pydev1what is the difference between adduser and useradd12:52
pydev1a bit confused about that12:52
tarzeauuseradd exists everywhere and doesn't do some handy things, adduser does12:52
pydev1ok12:52
tarzeauyou could completely add a user creating home dir, adding him to /etc/passwd, shadow group manually without any tool12:52
ograadduser has the distro defaults (default groups etc) and uses useradd in he backend12:53
ogra*in the12:53
pydev1ok12:53
tarzeaugithub.com also has a graphical usermanager from xen0vas i had an ITP for, waiting for it get more activity to rename the RFP to ITP again, in some future12:53
ogracreate a snap 😉12:53
tarzeaui did create some snap, and some appimage. i find freebsd ports , brew and deb creation easier12:54
tarzeaubut you can create a snap if you find that easier/better12:54
ograi got enugh snaps in the store, thanks 🙂12:55
jellyos-prober (update-grub) on focal cannot find other Linux installations if their / fs are LUKS encrypted.  It works if I intentionally cryptsetup luksOpen... the relevant LVM PV.  Is this expected?12:56
tarzeaucan i view them in a list?12:56
tarzeauis that mostly upstream!=snap or upstream==snap ?12:56
ogra(and it is beyond me how anyone can find deb creation easier than snap creation ... but i'm only in the deb business since 25y ... perhaps i'm too old)12:56
jellythe other Linux /boot is NOT encrypted12:56
tarzeauogra: not a big difference, 20 years here +-, git2deb, dh_make, debuild and repeat until perfect? :)12:57
tarzeauogra: i have the exact same thought the other way around. but this is fine.12:58
ograindeed12:58
tarzeauhaving also done solaris pkg (that was painful), i might give snap creation another try12:58
tarzeauoh and rpm spec files, that was painful too12:59
ograyeah rpm haunts you at night once you start with it ... 🙂12:59
tarzeauogra: does snap has a solution to snappify fonts? with equivs i was able to quickly create: http://sid.ethz.ch/fonts/deb/12:59
ograanyway we're OT ...13:00
ograyou'd have to get them included in one of the desktop extensions (shared libs, themes and such)13:00
ograyou *could* create a standalone content snap for them but would have to also give developer instrutions for people wanting to use them13:01
tarzeauso they'd not be automatically available to all users on the system?13:03
tarzeaubtw that reminds me of asking. does snap have a user mode, as in unpriviledged users can install/remove/update snaps?13:03
tarzeaulike i'm only a user on a system...13:04
ograif they are a content snap they'd be available for consumption by any other snap ... for non-snap you'd indeed have to adjust the font paths to look in the snap dir13:04
ograsnapd has a different concept ... there is one "owner" of the system (i.e. the admin) ... if you do a "snap login" from a machine you can call all snap commands wihout sudo ...13:06
tarzeauthanks for the clarification13:06
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parlosGood Morning, I've got a USB hub with +2 USB-2-serial adapters. The first plugged in is detected, and named ttyUSB0, subsequent, ttyUSBx. I can read/write ttyUSB0 (minicom), but ttyUSBx I can only read. It seems that my keypresses (minicom) are not sent. Its the same rights on all ttyUSB*. Any idea, what Im missing.14:09
jhutchinsparlos: minicom has some serious problems autodetecting devices.14:10
jhutchinsparlos: I assume you've tested the other devices as the only/first one plugged in?14:10
jhutchinsparlos: What are you using the serial devices for?14:11
parlosMy test sequence was, test on laptop (minicom, on mac (sorry)). Worked, disconnect and attach to USB hub. Detected (syslog). Started minicom. No response.14:12
parlosRestarted device (while minicom connected), output from device as expected. But at the end (login promt), no reaction to keypresses..14:13
parlosThe idea was to use the serial port as a fall-back, as Im connecting to switches.. and have a problem with the net config, and your ssh is gone.14:14
jhutchinsparlos: It's been a long time since I worked with serial devices, minicom is just not suited to a multi-port environment.  I don't know what other options are available.14:14
parlosI've used minicom since 2008, with multi-ports, no problem.  Dont think its a minicom issue.14:15
jhutchinsparlos: I'm pretty sure there are other options for serial com on a Mac, we used them for dial-up.14:15
oerheksparlos, is that hub selfpowered?14:16
parlosNo, its powerd.14:16
oerheksok14:16
parlosI've tested 3 different hubs.14:16
parlosLast hub worked in site 1, with minicom and 7 ports.14:16
parlosThis is from a ubuntu 22.04 lts server.14:17
jhutchinsparlos: Running on a Mac?  (You said it was a Mac.)14:41
parlosjhutchins: I used my laptop (mac) to verify that the other side of the serial port was alive. Then I moved the cable from laptop, to usb hub.14:42
VercasHow can I debug what goes on in an initramfs? I have a machine where I'm trying to make Ubuntu let me decrypt its disks over the network using Dropbear.14:50
VercasIt's a bit special.14:50
VercasI've got many machines where I do just this and it works fine.14:50
VercasBut this machine in particular is running a custom-ish Ubuntu-based distro. Not sure what about it is set up differently/wrongly that makes it fail to do networking in the initramfs.14:51
oerheks' custom-ish Ubuntu-based distro'   worries me14:52
oerhekssee topic14:52
VercasIt's Ubuntu Asahi.14:52
VercasMy IRC client won't display the full topic... not sure how to convince it to show it all. 🤦14:53
oerheksany client show that.14:53
ograVercas, perhaps try #ubunu-devel14:54
oerheksmaybe # asahi is their support channel? not here, we have no clue about those scripts14:54
VercasWell, The Lounge seems to be special. Or I'm the special one, heh.14:54
oerhekshttps://www.ubuntuasahi.org/14:54
VercasUbuntu Asahi is made by one guy on GitHub, it's not part of the Asahi effort.14:54
Vercasogra, I'll try, thank you.14:54
oerheksoh, they give support in #ubuntu-asahi channel of OFTC.14:54
ograi'm sure ubuntu will eventually merg the asahi bits so it isnt too far off from "being a supported part" ... but likel not for #ubuntu yet14:54
VercasHuh. Well, wish me luck there. I already tried getting help on GitHub and got nothing.14:55
ogra*merge14:55
VercasIt would be wonderful if Ubuntu would support Apple Silicon devices officially. :)14:55
ograyes, many devs use them already ... but mainly with multipass for ubuntu stuff14:55
oerheksif there would be a large userbase, it could speed up14:55
ograthe M2 is an awesome beast14:56
lotuspsychjethink kernel 6.x will be supporting m1 on ubuntu?14:57
ogralikely, but thats not enugh14:58
ograyou want all the userspace bits too ... OpenGL/Vulkan/Mesa etc etc14:58
Vercaslotuspsychje, Ubuntu would need a special installer, like Asahi's.14:58
ograaudio, power mgmt14:58
lotuspsychjeyeah asahi is working hard on those14:58
VercasIt needs to do things like extracting specific firmware blobs from macOS and making them available to the Linux install.14:59
lotuspsychjemaybe its an idea to try ubuntu 23.10 on your machine Vercas just to see15:00
VercasYou mean Ubuntu Asahi based on 23.10?15:00
lotuspsychjeno15:00
lotuspsychje!23.1015:00
ubottuUbuntu 23.10 (Mantic Minotaur) will be the 39th release of Ubuntu, scheduled for release October 2023 (https://ubottu.com/y/mm). Join #ubuntu-next for support and questions.15:00
VercasHow will this help with my situation, though?15:01
lotuspsychjelinux-image-generic (6.2.0.21.21, mantic15:01
VercasAs I said, I have _many_ machines which are decrypted via Dropbear in the initramfs. It works just fine.15:01
VercasSomething's wrong with the way Ubuntu Asahi is set up and I am trying to figure out exactly what's wrong with it.15:01
lotuspsychjeVercas: well this channel can only support the ubuntu side of things15:01
VercasI get that. My question was "how do I figure out what goes on in the initramfs?""15:02
Vercass/""/"15:02
lotuspsychjeogra and oerheks already pointed you to the right direction Vercas15:03
leftyfbVercas: you really need to seek support from "Ubuntu Asahi"15:03
VercasI get that, yes.15:03
VercasI'll bother them about this.15:03
orbitooin ubuntu, using apt, is there a way to instruct it to try different mirrors instead of failing out, if one mirror is unresponsive?15:05
lotuspsychjesudo apt update orbitoo15:06
leftyfborbitoo: use archive.ubuntu.com. That should select the most appropriate mirror to you15:06
orbitooleftyfb: it appears that's what it does, just sometimes the mirror it selects is unresponsive.   This is ocuring during the build of an ubuntu based docker image, sometimes the build process (which takes half an hour) fails because a mirror fails.   It's not critical, just... annoying15:08
orbitoohappens like, 1 out of every 8 or 10 launches.15:09
leftyfbwe get the same thing in our CI as well15:09
orbitooso if there's no good fix, then no big loss.  we stay on top of it15:09
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esvhey, I am trying to upgrade the kernel on an 18.04 from 5.4.0-1077 (azure) to the latest but only find 1080, is there anything I can check?16:07
esvapt-mark showhold does not list anything.16:07
oerheks18.04 is EOl16:07
oerheksunless you have ESM/pro.. then you would get kernel updates16:08
esvcan they do a distro upgrade from 18.04 to 20.04 then 22 or are they SOL unless they get Pro support?16:12
leftyfb!eolupgrade | esv16:15
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Guest65hello19:01
Guest65where the network config are saved?19:01
leftyfbGuest65: you're going to have to be more specific. What release of ubuntu are you running? Desktop or server? If desktop, which DE?19:02
Guest65desktop19:03
Guest65i have set up vlans but i, where is the config for it saved?19:03
leftyfbGuest65: ( uname -a ; cat /etc/os-release ; echo $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP ) | nc termbin.com 999919:04
Guest65uu 22.0419:05
leftyfbGuest65: the command should give you a URL as a result. Please post the URL here19:06
Guest65?? it contains no more information, but okay: https://termbin.com/6u3h19:07
leftyfbGuest65: it does, you're running LXDE. I don't know for sure if that runs network manager. You can try asking in #lubuntu19:08
Guest65it uses NM19:09
leftyfbGuest65: if you are running network manager, the profiles are in /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections. But you should not mess with the files directly. You can try using nmcli or nmtui to manage from a command line if for some reason the GUI doesn't do what you want19:09
Guest65it contains only my Wifi APs19:10
Guest65not my vlan configuration19:11
leftyfbGuest65: VLANs are attributes of network profiles. Not separate configs. How did you create your "vlan configuration" exactly?19:12
Guest65but i can use "ifconfig -a | grep enp" to list my enp1s0f0 vlans19:13
leftyfbGuest65: first, ifconfigifupdown is deprecated. Stop using it. Use "ip". Second, your command just lists interfaces and will show vlans as part of those. It does not set anything, and even if it did, it's only temporary and not a saved config. Do not use ifconfig or ip in this case, use network manager. Or if you insist on the command line, use nmcli or nmtui19:15
Guest65with 'ip addr add 192.168.1.4/24 dev enp1s0f0.5' i have added a vlan for example19:15
leftyfbno, you added an ip address to an interface19:16
leftyfband again, it's only temporary. It does not get saved across reboots or interface status changes19:16
leftyfbGuest65: what are you trying to accomplish exactly?19:17
Guest65how can i add vlan to an interface?19:17
leftyfbGuest65: what you're looking for is called is a vlan tag. https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-us/red_hat_enterprise_linux/7/html/networking_guide/sec-configure_802_1q_vlan_tagging_using_a_gui19:19
leftyfbby default, the default NM GUI doesn't allow for it. You can use the documented nm-connection-editor or nmcli https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-us/red_hat_enterprise_linux/7/html/networking_guide/sec-configure_802_1q_vlan_tagging_using_the_command_line_tool_nmcli19:20
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Guest65and what makes if i create for example enp1s0f0.22 network?19:34
leftyfbGuest65: huH?19:35
oerheksnetplan ..19:38
Guest65works the another interface not?19:38
leftyfboerheks: netplan is not in use when NM is in use19:38
leftyfbGuest65: can you please clarify what you are asking at this point?19:39
leftyfbnm-connection-editor should allow you to add a vlan tag id to an interace19:39
leftyfbor nmcli19:40
Guest65how can i delete enp1s0f0.5 and enp1s0f0.5.22 interfaces?19:46
leftyfbGuest65: how did you create them?19:46
Guest65*enp1s0f0.2219:46
Guest65with 'sudo ip addr add 192.168.1.3/24 dev enp1s0f0.22' for example19:47
leftyfbGuest65: reboot19:47
Guest65really? no another solution?19:47
sarnoldip link delete?19:48
Guest65good idea :D19:48
Guest65thanks19:49
oerheksfirst make sure that interface is down19:49
Guest65sure, interfaces was never up19:50
Guest65that was only multiple adresses at the same interface?19:54
lucas_hi20:00
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HendrikusClient: HexChat 2.16.0 • OS: Ubuntu "jammy" 22.04 • CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-8300H CPU @ 2.30GHz (2,30GHz) • Memory: Physical: 15,1 GiB Total (11,7 GiB Free) Swap: 957,0 MiB Total (957,0 MiB Free) • Storage: 1,1 TB / 1,4 TB (367,9 GB Free) • VGA: Intel Corporation CoffeeLake-H GT2 [UHD Graphics 630] @ Intel Corporation 8th Gen Core 4-core Processor Host Bridge/DRAM Registers [C21:17
Hendrikusoffee Lake H] • Uptime: 1h 22m 35s21:17
SnoopJIs the Ubuntu manpage for `lintian` messed up? It claims to list the built-in checks, but all I see is `CHECKS COLLECTION @COLLECTION@`21:55
SnoopJ(this is on 20.04, I didn't check 22.04 yet)21:56
jhutchins!bugs21:57
ubottuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please report it using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.21:57
jhutchinsSnoopJ: I think that's appropriate to report as a bug.21:57
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SnoopJoh huh it's even worse in 22.04, the manual refers to the section, but the section isn't present at all22:07
jhutchinsSnoopJ: So nobody proof-read the man pages before packaging.22:09
oerhekscould well be this old bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lintian/+bug/175863922:10
-ubottu:#ubuntu- Launchpad bug 1758639 in lintian (Ubuntu) "package lintian 2.5.22ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: unable to move aside './usr/share/doc/lintian' to install new version: Operation not permitted" [Undecided, New]22:10
SnoopJThe second bit might be an upstream bug in Debian, I see the bookworm manual also refers to a non-existent section22:10
SnoopJyep: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=102164922:11
-ubottu:#ubuntu- Debian bug 1021649 in lintian "lintian.pod: No 'CHECKS' section in man page" [Wishlist, Open]22:11
jhutchinsI've seen packages where the man page was just a stock template with the bare minimum headers.22:11
jhutchinsI think I'd rate that higher than wishlist.  How are you supposed to make it work if the man page isn't there?22:13
SnoopJwell, lintian "works" without that information if you just run every check, but it's a mild nuisance to have to hunt for the list somewhere else22:14
SnoopJif you want to use those options, that is22:14
jhutchinsDoes it do any good to report a bug that's actually upstream?22:15
SnoopJthe section being present but empty in 20.04 miiight be worth reporting22:15
CougarI AM Sparticus.22:15
jhutchinsI know some distros it gives the upstream reporting more weight because it comes from the packagers not just random users.22:15
SnoopJif only because it might point to some broader issue with documentation if a tool that close to the bedrock is getting garbled in doc22:16
jhutchinsI guess the cool guys never read man pages, they read the code.22:16
SnoopJfor some value of "cool" :)22:16
Cougarwhat network protocal is best used in kvm22:19
CougarNAT or otherwise .  thanks.22:19
Cougardesktop.22:19
CougarAND: I am using a vpn, if i change location, will it change config.22:20
Cougarend22:21
CougarPlease appreciate my ignorance.22:24
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CougarThe reason i ask is: ubuntu does many things different, and i do not what my build infected with bogus and amplified files that conflict.22:29
sarnoldCougar: different VPN protocols will cope with location changes differently; I expect wireguard probably survives location changes without trouble, but openvpn doesn't take kindly to even minor hiccoughs22:29
Cougarah, there in lies my problem = open vpn.. good call, how can i survive that ?22:30
sarnoldgood question. I just deal with restarting my vpn connection periodically :(22:31
Cougarwhen kvm is active ?22:32
SnoopJFor anyone playing along at home, I filed a bug against `lintian` here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lintian/+bug/202369722:32
Cougarvirt22:32
-ubottu:#ubuntu- Launchpad bug 2023697 in lintian (Ubuntu) "manpage refers to but does not include list of checks" [Undecided, New]22:32
CougarInteresting, im going to have to investigate, thanks sarnold22:34
Cougarhave a good day folks22:34
Cougarend22:34
stefan_Hi, i was wondering, does anybody know how to disable a latpops keyboard on wayland? I used to use xinput on xorg, but can't seem to find a way to do this on wayland. I like ti use an external keyboard when on my laptop.23:49

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