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| krytarik | Btw, the topic should be updated to now say "Focal-Lunar" wrt support in #ubuntu | 17:47 |
| ahasenack | juliank: hi, around? What's up with the "lunar new" task in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fwupd-efi/+bug/2011808 for fwupd-signed? | 17:55 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-devel- Launchpad bug 2011808 in fwupd-signed (Ubuntu Lunar) "[SRU] [HWE] fwupd-efi/1:1.4-0ubuntu0.1 tracker" [Undecided, New] | 17:55 | |
| ahasenack | and for mantic (main task), that is also in new? | 17:55 |
| juliank | ah | 17:56 |
| juliank | ahasenack: sorry forgot to include the LP entry in changelog in lunar | 17:56 |
| juliank | That got inherited to mantic | 17:56 |
| ahasenack | lunar has 1.52, same as mantic indeed | 17:56 |
| ahasenack | so released | 17:57 |
| ahasenack | ? | 17:57 |
| juliank | Yeah just fixed the state | 17:57 |
| juliank | Wrote the SRU bug after the upload to devel which was lunar at the time 🤷♂️ | 17:57 |
| ahasenack | juliank: another question: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/firmware-updates states some test cases in "Full QA Process across stable releases" that I don't think were run. Specifically, "fwupdmgr.sh in fwupd-tests deb", and the "dbus interface" paragraph, and the GUI portions in the last bullet point | 17:58 |
| ahasenack | I'm assuming this wiki page applies, because it's a version update, and not just patches | 17:59 |
| juliank | ahasenack: I am not aware of this page | 17:59 |
| ahasenack | the only release missing seems to be focal, on the other hand. THe rest was released | 17:59 |
| ahasenack | juliank: I got to it from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates#fwupd_and_fwupdate under "fwupd and fwupdate" | 18:00 |
| ahasenack | (ah, the link is direct already) | 18:00 |
| juliank | I brought the fwupd-efi bits into sync with the process for grub, as that's now all special | 18:01 |
| ahasenack | hm, so "fwupd" is not related to that page at all? | 18:02 |
| ahasenack | since the bug is about fwupd-efi and fwupd-signed? | 18:02 |
| ahasenack | I may be mixing them | 18:02 |
| juliank | fwupd-efi bits now have to go via ubuntu-uefi-team instead of OEM team | 18:02 |
| juliank | As we revamped signing and introduced a same signed binary across releases policy | 18:02 |
| juliank | Like signing goes via PPA now | 18:02 |
| juliank | I think we don't have proper SRU procedures for UEFI components | 18:03 |
| juliank | Anyway I think Microupdates to fwupd-efi probably need a different process than testing all the userspace components | 18:04 |
| juliank | Like we only changed the UEFI capsule helper so we only need to test OEM capsule support | 18:06 |
| juliank | Which was validated on a certified machine | 18:06 |
| ahasenack | this is 1:1.2-3ubuntu0.2 to 1:1.4-0ubuntu0.1, is that micro? | 18:06 |
| ahasenack | (for fwupd-efi in focal) | 18:06 |
| juliank | It was like a handful minor Bug fixes yeah | 18:06 |
| ahasenack | well, and NX | 18:08 |
| juliank | Yes but that's setting a bit in te binary | 18:08 |
| juliank | It's just saying it's NX compatible, not needing any work | 18:09 |
| juliank | https://github.com/fwupd/fwupd-efi/compare/1.2...1.4 | 18:09 |
| ahasenack | any idea why focal was skipped on the 12th, this monday? Just forgotten? | 18:10 |
| ahasenack | all others were released | 18:10 |
| ahasenack | bionic I'm assuming will be left alone, so maybe we should add the block-proposed tag for it | 18:11 |
| ahasenack | leave it there for the esm people to pick it up whenever needed | 18:11 |
| juliank | bionic is the most important one really | 18:11 |
| juliank | We're still finishing the publishing of the shim update there | 18:12 |
| ahasenack | what does that mean? | 18:12 |
| juliank | Which depends on the fwupd-efi 1.4 because the previous is signed with the old key | 18:12 |
| juliank | So we fix that in the main archive but somehow it stalled again | 18:13 |
| juliank | I think sil2100 just ran out of time in the SRU shift when it came to focal | 18:13 |
| juliank | You need to release them, wait a publisher run, then release the next series or launchpad fails | 18:13 |
| juliank | Because fwupd-efi is binary copied and it was in publishing in one series | 18:14 |
| ahasenack | oooook :) | 18:14 |
| ahasenack | I think I'll leave this one alone then | 18:14 |
| ahasenack | too many moving parts I'm not familiar with | 18:14 |
| ahasenack | juliank: in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnu-efi/+bug/2011804, you say "We will test NX support when we work on the NX supported shim." | 18:21 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-devel- Launchpad bug 2011804 in gnu-efi (Ubuntu Kinetic) "[SRU] [HWE] gnu-efi 3.0.15" [Undecided, Fix Committed] | 18:21 | |
| ahasenack | does that mean this update depends on another one that hasn't landed yet? | 18:21 |
| ahasenack | or specifically fwupd-efi that we just talked about? | 18:22 |
| juliank | Well no the future shim update depends on those one | 18:22 |
| juliank | Well not strongly depends | 18:22 |
| juliank | But I mean no firmware that requires the NX bit is going to load fwupd if it can't load shim because that doesn't have the bit | 18:22 |
| ahasenack | well, fwupd-efi is already in kinetic-updates | 18:23 |
| juliank | Yeah it's fine | 18:23 |
| ahasenack | does this mean gnu-efi can now have an extra test, now that fwupd-efi with NX is in updates? | 18:23 |
| juliank | Oh gnu-efi should have been released with fwupd-efi because fwupd-efi built using it | 18:24 |
| juliank | But no we can't test NX yet because we need the shim | 18:24 |
| ahasenack | yeah, you called out something like this in the "other info" of fwupd-efi | 18:25 |
| ahasenack | no, "see also" | 18:25 |
| juliank | The gnu-efi update was done as a build-dep for the new fwupd-efi | 18:25 |
| ahasenack | next time perhaps call this out more specifically: update X needs to be landed at the same time, or something | 18:25 |
| ahasenack | but it's how I got to the gnu-efi bug, via your "see also" remark | 18:26 |
| ahasenack | so why are we releasing updates with a feature we cannot test yet? Why not do it after this new shim is available? | 18:28 |
| ahasenack | chicken-and-egg problem? | 18:28 |
| juliank | There were some other interesting fixes for hardware support in there | 18:29 |
| juliank | But mainly the goal is to ship signed components in the same version | 18:30 |
| ahasenack | I see, everybody got 1.51.1 | 18:30 |
| juliank | You can go find FO100 specification, it specifies the signed boot asset policy I'm working on/with | 18:31 |
| juliank | But yes it probably should have a SRU policy page too | 18:31 |
| juliank | But the whole thing developed in a security update | 18:32 |
| ahasenack | such specs don't look like they are a light read | 18:32 |
| juliank | Anyhow I hope this addresses the questions, I do suggest leaving boot stuff to vorlon or sil2100 as they have more context | 18:33 |
| ahasenack | yep | 18:33 |
| juliank | I need to resume my EOD star trek snw watching, take 3 ;) | 18:33 |
| ahasenack | I might sign up for paramount+ just because of that. It used to be free with my broadband contract, but isn't anymore | 18:34 |
| vorlon | We grabbed a free trial of Paramount+ to binge Picard now that it's complete. Our free 1-week trial turned into a free 2-month trial, because due to terrible UI I wound up accidentally starting trial accounts both on my desktop and on the TV, then tried to cancel the one from my desktop, so they offered me more free time | 18:54 |
| vorlon | (and the I was able to cancel the TV-only trial and link the TV to the other one) | 18:54 |
| ahasenack | I was wondering about waiting for all episodes to be available, and then get a trial | 19:18 |
| ahasenack | but if it's one week only, that would not be enough | 19:18 |
| sarnold | pick the right week? :) | 19:18 |
| ahasenack | at the very end, yeah | 19:19 |
| ahasenack | or just pay up one month, that's also not too bad | 19:19 |
| ahasenack | but waiting all this time is bad | 19:19 |
| ahasenack | (for snw) | 19:19 |
| ahasenack | I really enjoyed the 1st season | 19:19 |
| ahasenack | felt like ST back to its roots of exploration | 19:19 |
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| vpa1977 | Hi, I am looking for a review and sponsorship of openjdk-21 early access merge. https://code.launchpad.net/~vpa1977/ubuntu/+source/openjdk-21/+git/openjdk-21/+merge/444680. All changes from Ubuntu were integrated in Debian, but I had to regenerate the control file to get the correct dependencies, so it is technically a merge. Thank you!!!! | 21:57 |
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