[00:05] hey cuties [00:05] wssup! [00:06] I dare say you are looking dapper in that tuxedo [00:06] who ya tux-ing?! [00:20] uhhh uhhh hey! [00:20] one of you bastards got a match?! [00:23] one of you bastards got a match [00:24] does this irc work? === debian72 is now known as Vanishing4th === chris14_ is now known as chris14 === blackest_mamba_ is now known as blackest_mamba [01:43] You ask a coherent, related question, and someone tries to answer it. [01:48] Cursed scrollback. [02:00] I have a question........../ [02:01] irc works best if you just ask your question :) [02:01] how can I creat a threat or post in this forum [02:02] where are you [02:03] Is there anybody.1 [02:05] Guest31: irc doesn't have "threads". you just type. [02:05] test === inari0 is now known as inari [05:12] A dip of the feet, but confused by the wet. [05:55] Hi [05:55] How can I proxify all traffic through a socks proxy? === JanC_ is now known as JanC === katsuragi1 is now known as katsuragi === VlA is now known as voxel === voxel is now known as V1A === VEEEUghh is now known as V12 === BedMan_ is now known as BedMan [08:47] hi. [08:49] 22.04, switched boards, new NIC = rtl 8111/8168 from an a320 amd chipset on asrock, web says "install dkms package", other src say "uninstall dmks package and run with kernel driver" - without kernel driver no r81xx in lsmod at all. 5.15.x-73. [08:50] how should I tackle this? [10:14] deadrom: It should use r8169 === 080AAB2WG is now known as vioo === vioo is now known as 080AAB2WG === 080AAB2WG is now known as XTC1313 === XTC1313 is now known as 080AAB2WG [11:26] Greetings, I updated to Ubuntu 23.04, Lunar Lobster, on my Dell XPS 9320 and I encountered some (big) issues: [11:26] - my laptop is usually docked via usb-c, connected to an external screen and closed, whenever I open it it can recognize both internal and external screens but the internal one is black [11:26] - webcam is not working (Intel MIPI Camera, Multimedia controller: Intel Corporation Device 465d (rev 02)), shows just a black screen (yes, laptop is opened :P) and the software says it cannot open the camera. [11:26] For example cheese says: [11:26] Internal data stream error.: ../libs/gst/base/gstbasesrc.c(3132): gst_base_src_loop (): /GstCameraBin:camerabin/GstWrapperCameraBinSrc:camera_source/GstBin:bin18/GstPipeWireSrc:pipewiresrc1: [11:26] streaming stopped, reason not-negotiated (-4) === 080AAB2WG is now known as OMG1317 === OMG1317 is now known as 080AAB2WG === 080AAB2WG is now known as VlA === VlA is now known as 080AAB2WG === 080AAB2WG is now known as HelloBum === HelloBum is now known as 080AAB2WG [12:07] Hi! After a software update this morning, Wayland isn't available at login anymore, and I have several visual bugs, like the terminal not updating every key stroke, and change-of-desktops animations are gone, as do minimize/maximize windows animations. This may be related to nvidia packages updates. Can anyone help? [12:14] Xargon - did you setup/point cheese to use the camera and mic you want? sometime, it is setup to use the wrong devices. [12:16] I tried google an error whenupdateing ad installing. There is an error with fontconfig [12:17] I get this in the log file /var/lib/dpkg/info/fontconfig.postinst: 18: fc-cache: Permission denied [12:24] jeremy31, ill modprobe that manually and check. but we are talking about a regular old kernel module, no funky dkms business? [12:24] Niklas__E_ you can try the next command: [12:25] sudo apt-get install --reinstall --purge fontconfig-config === mkv is now known as m4v === inari is now known as inari0 === inari0 is now known as inari [13:14] good afternoon [13:15] I wanted to check with the ubuntu advantage client (nowadays ubuntu pro) if my old ubuntu install is still supported for security updates [13:15] Surkow: "pro status" [13:15] the ua client nets me "RuntimeError: Python 3.5 or later is required". I figured "sudo env "PATH=$PATH" ua status" would solve t hat. [13:17] since I have python 3.6 running from a directory via virtualenv I figured I could force sudo to have the same python version [13:17] leftyfb, pro status is for recent distros [13:17] Surkow: what release of ubuntu are you running? [13:17] this is an old install with old hardware running 14.04. [13:17] 6 [13:18] :o [13:18] upgrading to a newer distro is naturally the most sane solution - but anything with compositing isn't something this laptop can handle [13:19] Surkow: sorry, but we cannot support ubuntu 14.04 in any way here. You need to upgrade. [13:19] Surkow: if the laptop supports 64bit, it'll run ubuntu 22.04 just fine [13:19] 14.04 is supported by Canonical with ESM [13:19] I want to rely on ESM [13:20] that is why I attempted this [13:20] then you need to contact Canonical for support [13:20] still one year of updates, right? [13:20] 14.04 is old enough I'm wondering if an upgrade path without some type of disruption is even possible [13:20] ten years [13:20] clone the discs first, then try and see what happens, who knows [13:20] I already applied for a free license for the pro client [13:21] which can't run yet - as the ua client doesn't work either [13:21] Surkow: good luck [13:21] weedmic: the only reasonable way to "upgrade" from that is a new install really [13:21] leftyfb, thanks ;) [13:21] Surkow: ESM still exists, but I'm not sure it is available for new installs [13:21] my main question wasn't so much how to upgrade [13:22] but how to make sudo binaries rely on a newer python version [13:22] I can alias them, but that won't work for sudo [13:22] Surkow: you'll have to contact Canonical for support [13:32] Surkow, pro is only available for 16.04 onwards ... 14.04 still falls under the old ESM umbrella (infra-only) and will get what was covered under this originally (i.e. no universe security fixes beyond what was community provided etc) ... for more info, you need to file a support ticket [13:33] Thanks for the info. Since I'm not a paying customer I'll just try to figure out how to run the ua binary first. [13:37] Hi everyone, I need a recommendation. My father is going over seas for a month. He will need to login to a computer in the states to do some business. What is the right VPN for me to set up? PTPP? [14:01] Hello . I would appreciate any advice or help.... (full message at ) [14:03] please tag me to see your answer [14:28] Anyone having issues with screen rotation after rebooting from Windows? === ord is now known as quem [14:31] I have a dual boot tablet with Ubuntu 22.04 and Win10 and I recently noticed that screen rotation gets completely broken on Ubuntu after rebooting from Windows unless I power off and then restart the device [15:18] Hello. How do I let a non-root user run a snap service? When I run snap start xyz, it aborts saying permission denied. if I run snap start as root, the service program runs as root as well.. is there a way to configure which user "snap start" runs a snap package service as? [15:21] lowin, "snap login" will allow that user to run all snap commands witout sudo [15:21] (you need an ubuntuone SSO account (login.ubuntu.com)) [15:22] that doesn't make any sense. what does local system permissions have anything to do with an ubuntu account [15:23] I just want a process to run as a specific user when it's called with snap start === anotheryou_ is now known as anotheryou [15:25] unfortunately stackexchange is offline and I can't find much useful info elsewhere [15:33] lowin, snap services always run as root ... there is no way around it, that happens on a package level [15:34] lowin, forum.snapcraft.io should be the place to find answers ... but it wont tell you anything different than i do here 🙂 ... === toozej851792683 is now known as toozej85179268 [15:35] ogra, okay. need a workaround I guess. How do I override an environment variable that was set in snapcraft.yaml? [15:36] depends ... for an app you just export it ... for a service that is impossible unless you re-pack the snap [15:37] lowin: Might be worth learning how the system wants to do things by default rather than trying to alter it to your expectations. [15:37] nope, the system is clearly a design failure [15:37] you can do some evil hacks if the var comes from i.e. a launch wrapper ... by bind mounting some other one on top with the change ... but if it is set in snapcraft.yaml the packager clearly stated that they do not want the user to change it [15:38] snapcraft.yaml is a statement of policies here ... [15:39] your best bet for a clean solution is to ask the packager ("snap info | grep contact:") to allow such a change via a snap option or by making the env var overridable === msyke1 is now known as msyke [15:42] the packager clearly meant a package that has no business to be running as root, to run as root [15:43] lowin, which snap is that ? [15:43] gitea [15:45] why would you not want a server tool to not run as server ? [15:45] I figured it out, the process itself allows you to override the default config dirs [15:46] i have many customers using gitea for their in-house development to have a GH like service ... they would never get the idea to run it per-user [15:46] it's not "per-user" it's one global non-root user [15:46] yeah, thats nonsense in context of snaps [15:47] since a snap runs in its own readonly OS ... if confinement isnt root safe its is useless ... [15:48] (there is a way to drop privileges if packagers really want but it is a pretty useless attempt given the actual context service snaps run in) [15:48] this is not docker 😉 [16:30] I'm having some audio issues to use a pixel buds pro on ubuntu 22.10. When I connect the device I get src/service.c:btd_service_connect() a2dp-sink profile connect failed for 74:74:46:1C:B0:79: Protocol not available [16:33] in the audio output device list I can only see "Dummy output" [16:34] MadLamb: perhaps share your whole dmesg or journal logs with the volunteers, maybe more clues there [16:36] MadLamb: this looks a bit similar; https://mephisto.cc/en/tech/airpods_pro2/ [16:37] lotuspsychje, wireplumber? pipewire? Am I supposed to have those? [16:37] lotuspsychje, the error message is the same, but I dont think I am using wireplumber and pipewire [16:40] lotuspsychje, I have this ubuntu install for many years, and a few weeks back I started having issues and would sometimes work [16:40] I upgraded today from 22.04 to 22.10 with hopes that Pulseaudio 16.1 would solve the problem [16:41] MadLamb: apt policy pipewire [16:42] lotuspsychje, Installed: 0.3.58-2ubuntu1 === ord is now known as quem [16:42] MadLamb: worth a try to reproduce? [16:43] lotuspsychje, yes, trying that [16:44] lotuspsychje, seems to work. Any idea why this doesnt come with the system? with the upgrade, etc? [16:47] MadLamb: smells like bug #1993739 [16:47] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Bug 1993739 in pipewire (Ubuntu) "No sound after upgrade from 22.04 to 22.10 (but reverting to pulseaudio works)" [Undecided, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1993739 [17:02] lotuspsychje, so pulseaudio not being used anymore? it still looks like its installed [17:05] this stuff seems so complicated [17:10] MadLamb: you went from an LTS release to a non-LTS wich can result to some unexpected bugs in some cases [17:14] The latest updates wreaked havoc on my system. Only one monitor was working (NVIDIA drivers not loading) I got that resolved. But I still have no sound and my webcam isn't being detected. I'm struggling to figure that out. === southey2 is now known as foxtrot [17:31] !paste [17:31] For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://dpaste.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [17:32] https://dpaste.com/DM9369Y43 [17:32] That is my: sudo lshw -C multimedia [17:34] RickyRat5005: unclaimed means driver not loaded properly [17:35] RickyRat5005: share your whole dmesg in a !paste please === ord is now known as quem [17:44] https://dpaste.com/3HWQ3F235 [17:44] yes, I figured as much, I am just not sure how to resolve that. [17:46] RickyRat5005: thats a weirdy kernel 6.2 you got there, wich ubuntu release are you on? [17:46] 23.04 [17:47] RickyRat5005: seems like your nvidia driver 535.43.02 install goes flaky at the end of the dmesg [17:48] RickyRat5005: can you check your addictional drivers list if there are other driver versions you can fallback to? [17:48] Yes, I was having problems with NVIDA and only one monitor working. Finally got all 4 going. [17:49] ok, switching to 530 [17:53] BRB while switching to older NVIDIA Driver. [17:57] On 530 now... I have 4 screens but no change with audio or webcam. [17:57] RickyRat5005: sudo lshw -C video [17:58] https://dpaste.com/F2JQ8KMKA === Acou_Bass is now known as Piece_Maker [18:00] RickyRat5005: hmm, your intel graphics are unclaimed now [18:01] RickyRat5005: full dmesg again please? [18:01] lotuspsychje, I went through many LTS and non-LTS over the last years. I will now do 22.10 to 23.04 [18:02] MadLamb: thats the users choice indeed, just saying you 'can' meet transitions and bugs along that journey [18:04] https://dpaste.com/4DT8H2LRS [18:04] I'm thinking I will never buy NVIDIA again! I have had so many issues. :-) [18:06] RickyRat5005: yeah doesnt go too well neither there; [drm:nv_drm_master_set [nvidia_drm]] *ERROR* [nvidia-drm] [GPU ID 0x00000100] Failed to grab modeset ownership [18:06] not sure whats going on yet [18:07] RickyRat5005: you also seem to have a lot of acpi issues ontop [18:08] RickyRat5005: are you logged into xorg? [18:09] some acpi issues can be fixed by a BIOS update [18:09] but not all [18:09] i have some too but they dont affect my system at all [18:09] Yes, I think you have to with NVIDIA right? [18:10] lenovo can be tricky [18:10] everything except the thinkpads are designed for windows sadly [18:11] RickyRat5005: yes, wayland + nvidia are still work in progress [18:11] Yeah, this is a THINKSTATION. [18:11] Desktop. [18:12] did you check for the latest BIOS update? [18:12] bios version 2023 sounds pretty new [18:12] but yes, check anyway [18:12] Yes, bios is up to date. [18:12] I checked that. [18:13] the kernel looks very strange [18:13] 6.2-oracle on 22.10? [18:13] he's on 23.04 [18:13] ok [18:14] that oracle tag still is strange [18:14] yeah i also was thinking that [18:14] did you clean install RickyRat5005 ? [18:14] does not look like a stock Ubuntu kernel [18:14] yes, it's a clean install [18:15] Power just went out here! I am go offline but I'll be back if my UPS battery dies (as soon as power is back) [18:15] ok [18:18] -oracle is the kernel for OCI, oracle cloud, right? this is a bare metal desktop system, though === sbine_ is now known as sbine [18:20] I didn't do any type of custom install.. [18:20] some machines auto pick those OEM kernels, maybe also his case? [18:21] RickyRat5005: try: sudo apt install --reinstall linux-image-generic [18:21] does that install something? [18:22] Going to wait to see if power comes back on to try that. I don't want to crash in the middle of installing that. [18:22] good idea [18:32] RickyRat5005: you probably suffer bug #2023986 [18:32] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Bug 2023986 in linux-signed-oracle (Ubuntu) "Drivers not working using kernel linux-image-6.2.0-1003-oracle" [Undecided, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2023986 === ord is now known as quem [18:58] EriC^^, I don't right now but that's the logical next step [19:01] why does booting into recovery mode grant root access, shouldn't at least a password be required to boot into recovery root shell? [19:02] no, if you wanted protection, you should have encrypted your install [19:04] BinarySavior: it's trivial to get root access to the system anyways [19:04] init=/bin/bash or going for multi-user.target [19:47] so for any unix system physical access implies root access? [19:48] or at least for Ubuntu [19:48] no. [19:48] you have choosen not to encrypt. [19:49] right, I chose not to encrypt, I don't remember why, I think it may have had to do with the Windows partition [19:50] which I never use, I should just format it [19:50] sup [20:00] I don't think I'd be brave enough to try any of the windows tools to read linux filesystems anyway [20:01] imho it's just easier to use a network filesystem that both windows and linux can reach [20:15] should you have a fc-cache? [20:15] * Niklas_E_ cant fine one and I have prblem with fontconfig-config [20:17] Niklas_E_, please elaborate? [20:18] dpkg: fel vid hantering av paketet fontconfig (--configure): [20:19] and /var/log/fontconfig.log /var/lib/dpkg/info/fontconfig.postinst: 18: fc-cache: Permission denied [20:20] fc-cache belongs to the package fontconfig. You may want to check if that package is installed. If it is but tinkering has been happening, you can install with options which replace any existing conf files it has with factory default ones, for example: sudo apt-get install --reinstall fontconfig [20:20] Niklas_E_: What result gives: which fc-cache [20:20] it should be installed, what are you actually installing? [20:21] running that gives E: Internal Error, No file name for fontconfig:amd64 [20:24] That error is usually a result of a package which was able to be downloaded into /var/cache/apt/archives/ but could not be installed for some reason [20:26] paste the whole output? [20:26] !paste [20:26] For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://dpaste.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [20:29] https://dpaste.com/ECKZG32WR [20:36] hi. installed r8168-dkms on 22.04, now keeps segfaulting at boot. on top of all migrated the system and cannot tell anymore if before it booted legacy or UEFI. how can I tell from /var/log or other? before I address dkms I'd like to have that out of the way [20:36] I have 22.04 live booted now and can look everywhere [20:37] ah, nvm the uefi thing, the old syslogs from couple days back state uefi, so that's clear [20:38] from a booted system [ -d /sys/firmware/efi ] && echo “Installed in UEFI mode” || echo “Installed in Legacy mode” [20:39] like said, done. now for disabling dkms... I could bind-mount and chroot but can't I just disable that module in etc? === Atque_ is now known as Atque [20:39] where did you get that dkms from? [20:40] offical repos [20:40] r8168-dkms package [20:40] oh oke, i was looking for it in a ppa https://launchpad.net/~kelebek333/+archive/ubuntu/kablosuz?field.series_filter=jammy [20:41] disable secureboot temporary?? [20:41] how? [20:42] (and why?) [20:42] how, in your bios, as dkms wants to build a package [20:45] there are some identical bugreports, skip the one with kernel 6.2 https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/r8168/+bugs?orderby=-datecreated&start=0 [20:47] I think i'll really chroot in and uninstall the package.. [20:52] alrighty, reboot and try... === user2 is now known as rfleming === ord is now known as quem [21:53] ah! venice! [22:05] Question: I am an Ubuntu Pro subscriber and I am using the PREEMPT_RT Kernel for development. Is there a specific irc channel with like minded RT people? Thanks! === register is now known as Guest2321 [22:14] oldmancoyote, #ubuntu-kernel i guess , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList [22:30] oerheks, No listing of an PREEMPT_RT channel for Ubunut 22.04 LTS [22:30] hi [22:31] I keep coming up on a grub prompt after switching hardware. when I call "set" root points at hd0,msdos1 -- wrong, is on msdos2. I maanged to manually enter all relevant params and boot into my desktop, I reinstalled grup with === Guest2321 is now known as Fulanix [22:32] apt-get --reinstall install grub-common grub-efi-amd64 os-prober ; update-grub [22:32] *grub of course [22:39] *sigh* now stability issues on the machine. [22:40] ok, what's the proper methid to reinstall grub from within the runnign system? [22:46] deadrom: sudo grub-install if using efi [22:46] and sudo update-grub [22:49] i might have missed grub-install... gonna check when I can make this fcker go again... [22:55] !bootrepair | deadrom [22:55] deadrom: Boot-Repair is a simple tool to repair frequent boot issues you may encounter in Ubuntu. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair for more info. [22:56] deadrom: also, issues with grub do not cause "stability issues" [22:56] random segfaults and kernel panic. ryzen 3 that worked a charm until recently [22:56] once grub boots you into the OS, grub doesn't matter anymore [22:56] that would be driver issues [22:59] leftyfb, come to think first appeared when I_ started using the mobos realtek nix, r8168 running on the r8169 module [23:00] then again it worked form the live system [23:00] can i blacklist from grub prompt? [23:02] deadrom: modprobe.blacklist=MODULE_NAME option to the GRUB_CMD_LINUX [23:07] dammit. freeze. no idea what's wrong, the system worked for 3 days. the only thing I did then change was install r8168-dkms, then uninstalled that from a chroot a couple minutes back. that's when the fun started [23:11] I am trying to setup Ubuntu desktop on a bare instance in a VM. I can't seem to find any clear instructions, a lot of misc. how-to articles.. is there a decent reference on setting this up? [23:12] Ultimately, my goal is to have puppeteer run on the server in non-headless mode. [23:16] I don't see a puppeteer package; I see a few things like firefox, chromium-browser, opencv, etc have an embedded copy of puppeteer [23:16] you might have to provide that yourself [23:16] one can with nodejs npm [23:16] Oh, that part I have all figured out.. [23:17] And, I can run it fine, I just have to manually start a vncserver, which then starts an X server, XWayland apparently. [23:18] I hobbled this all together.. but I'd like to get it to start up automatically on reboot so that the X server is running and my test user account is logged in. All without manual intervention [23:18] that's where I'm struggling. === sharpertool_ is now known as sharpertool [23:21] running this now: sudo apt install --reinstall linux-image-generic [23:21] Yes it is installing [23:21] I guess I can start reading docs on xfce, XWayland, and tightvnc [23:22] RickyRat5005: now: sudo apt remove --purge linux-image-6.2.0-1003-oracle linux-image-oracle [23:22] then paste the output of: sudo update-grub [23:23] wow, now the live usb 22.04 kernel panics. awesome. [23:26] You are running a kernel (version 6.2.0-1003-oracle) and attempting to │ [23:26] │ remove the same version. │ [23:26] │ │ [23:26] │ This can make the system unbootable as it will remove │ [23:26] │ /boot/vmlinuz-6.2.0-1003-oracle and all modules under the directory │ [23:26] │ /lib/modules/6.2.0-1003-oracle. This can only be fixed with a copy of │ [23:26] !paste [23:26] For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://dpaste.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [23:27] RickyRat5005: yes thats ok [23:28] but please use a pastebin ^^ [23:28] https://dpaste.com/8SKGN2UC4 [23:28] ok [23:28] then paste the output of "sudo update-grub" [23:29] https://dpaste.com/6FDZ7DEJS [23:30] reboot and select the -6.2.0-23-generic kernel in grub. do you know how to get into the grub menu? [23:30] Better you tell me. [23:30] I have done it before but want to make sure I don't do anything to contradict what you are doing to help me. [23:31] it depends a little on your system. it is hitting ESC or shift at boot time [23:31] ok. [23:31] Be back... hopefully soon! [23:31] it is the kernel you just installed [23:35] Nice, I have sound now! [23:35] And my webcam is recognized! [23:35] ok great [23:35] Yep! [23:35] now we should remove the rest of the oracle stuff [23:35] Yes. Please. [23:36] what does "apt list --installed|grep oracle" return? [23:37] https://dpaste.com/3NAVPZSBS [23:38] sudo apt remove --purge linux-headers-6.2.0-1003-oracle linux-image-6.2.0-1003-oracle linux-modules-6.2.0-1003-oracle linux-objects-nvidia-525-6.2.0-1003-oracle linux-oracle-headers-6.2.0-1003 [23:39] Done. [23:40] Is that good then or do I need something do make the other kernel the default upon boot? [23:40] got disconnected [23:40] did you see the remove command? [23:41] Yes, it ran. [23:41] ok [23:41] if that finises without problems paste the output of "sudo update-grub" again [23:41] https://dpaste.com/BUYPSU5LL [23:42] ok we need to remove the lowlatency one too [23:42] apt list --installed|grep lowlatency [23:43] https://dpaste.com/FLPGD4Z2Z [23:43] sudo apt remove --purge linux-image-6.2.0-1003-lowlatency linux-modules-6.2.0-1003-lowlatency linux-objects-nvidia-525-6.2.0-1003-lowlatency linux-signatures-nvidia-6.2.0-1003-lowlatency [23:43] and then the update-grub output again :) [23:44] https://dpaste.com/7Y6RTSC8N [23:44] Done and here you go. [23:44] cool [23:44] now you should be able to just reboot [23:44] and have a functioning system [23:44] Ok, Did I do something wrong or is this just a bug in Ubuntu? [23:45] it seems to be a known bug [23:45] ok, great. Going to reboot. BRB. [23:45] Thank you very much for your help. [23:45] yw [23:50] Back. [23:50] nvidia driver is working ok too? [23:50] The only thing I can see is that on reboot my sound output device is set to NVIDIA HDMI and it takes about 60 seconds for it to recognize the built in audio sound card. [23:51] And yes, NVIDIA driver is working. Let me check the version. [23:51] you can check with "nvidia-smi" [23:52] i guess you could use the 530 driver again but 525 will work too [23:52] Yep, it's using 530 but 535 is avail now. [23:52] ah ok [23:52] im still on 530 here :) [23:52] Not sure if I should just leave well enough alone! [23:53] if it works use 530 for now [23:53] Right, I honestly don't think 535 is going to make me type faster! [23:53] :) [23:53] ok, I won't mess with it then. [23:53] and im not sure about the sound. but if it works after 60sec.. maybe dont touch it too :) [23:53] Again, thank you very much. You have been really patient and helpful. I appreciate it! [23:53] Right. That's something that I can live with. [23:54] no problem. time to go to bed soon here [23:54] Where is here for you? [23:54] germany [23:54] I'm from the USA (all my life) but in Nicaragua now. [23:54] Ahhh ok... for sure bedtime there! [23:54] Thanks again! [23:55] The only German I know are dog commands! (I have trained dogs professionally all my life) [23:55] platz! :D [23:55] LOL! YEP! [23:55] Goodnight my friend. Thanks again! [23:55] bye [23:58] https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Y2fMbBQmf9/ <- can someone make something from this stack trace?