[00:03] <deadrom> i need to be loged in?!!
[00:03] <deadrom> i give up, not my day
[00:04] <jongsta> i want to add a shell user on an ubuntu system that won't have a password but will require an ssh keypair. i'd like to have this scripted so that it prompts for the pub key to be added and sets a home directory and shell to /bin/bash. anyone got a handy script for this?
[00:05] <sarnold> deadrom: yikes that's an ugly trace, what'd you do to get that?
[00:06] <sarnold> deadrom: yeah, there was enough spam and abuse on the pastebin that they closed it down enough that it's not really used much any more ;( I usually pipe things through | nc termbin.com 9999   but paste.debian.net is nice for browser use
[00:07] <krzx_> anyone else experiencing extreme lag with downloading updates from *.ubuntu.com
[00:08] <krzx_> Fetched 12.2 MB in 9min 37s (21.1 kB/s)
[00:09] <deadrom> sarnold, if only I knew! that entire system is behaving erratic since today. worked peachy for 3 days. today I set out to get the mobo nic working, even with everything unapplied even the live usb systems are now acting up. I have *one* suspicion, that's my somewhat ugly usb-keyb/mouse switching between my computers
[00:09] <sarnold> krzx_: *ouch*. I just got 26.2 MB/s from 91.189.91.39
[00:10] <deadrom> but now have an old trusty keaboard and mouse on a usb2 hub directly on the macine, still weird things happen
[00:10] <deadrom> especially when I rmmod r8169
[00:10] <krzx_> security.ubuntu.com and archive.ubuntu.com ipv6
[00:10] <sarnold> deadrom: maybe run memtest86 over night?
[00:10] <bumblefuzz> Does anyone know of an open source USB-over-Ethernet application?
[00:11] <krzx_> brb\
[00:11] <deadrom> I gave it half an hour earlier, that was fine. and 20.04 live is better than 22.04 live
[00:11] <bumblefuzz> the bitrate should be doable
[00:11] <deadrom> yes, i know memtest need slonger
[00:12] <tomreyn> jongsta: adduser and ssh-copy-id
[00:12] <jongsta> tomreyn: i know the general commands, i was hoping someone had a script ready to go
[00:15] <tomreyn> ah, not I. but it should not take a lot more than that.
[00:30] <jongsta> chatgpt helped me out, thanks :)
[00:31] <sarnold> neat :)
[00:34] <deadrom> "A stop job is running for Session cs of user deadrom (1min 25 sec / ).... is there any way to make it tell me what the job is about? I can never figur ewhat's hogging the system for 90sec there
[00:35] <deadrom> leftyfb, boot-repair really did it at a mouse click. nice. thanks for the hint.
[00:54] <deadrom> the machine got more stable now that I blacklisted r8169 and run on a usb-gbe-adapter
[00:57] <deadrom> which adds up: I used that adapter before as for reasons beyond me the r8169 module was not loaded when switchign hardware. I then went for r8168-dkms at a hint off the web, then learned the dkms module wasnt required anymore and uninstalled, enabled r8169
[01:07] <deadrom> sarnold: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1411950/xubuntu-22-04-keeps-crashing-after-multiple-fresh-installs/1472702
[01:07] <deadrom> I bet dollars to donuts that nic is the issue
[01:08] <deadrom> gtg
[06:05] <Guest10> how can i access usr/local directory in GUI mode?
[06:15] <Aavar> Guest10: what is the issue you are facing?
[06:17] <Guest10> can not link opencv and cpp
[06:17] <Guest10> having two folders opencv2 and opencv4 in include root
[06:17] <Guest10> so I need to copy one contains to other
[06:25] <guiverc> Guest10, usr/local is a relative directory; however /usr/local/ may require elevated permissions to write changes into.. thus you may need to elevate app's privileges. I just tested & i can with my DE/release... but normally I'd just do it at terminal
[06:27] <Guest10> i move filed, but still not linke
[06:27] <Guest10> d
[06:32] <Guest10> can someone help?
[06:35] <guiverc> I don't understand your issues Guest10 ; you've given no OS/release nor desktop details.. mentioned a relative directory (ie. /usr/ and usr/ are very different).. but it'll be harder if you're using a release using *snap* packages or Core (where all ares run confined)
[06:35] <Aavar> Guest10: what are you trying to do exactly?
[06:35] <Aavar> Are you following a guide?
[06:40] <Guest10> Yes, I did it so many times, but  now I could not Link Cpp, Opencv in Ubuntu 20
[06:41] <Guest10> just purged everything and need to reinstall
[06:41] <Guest10> cpp, opencv, ubuntu, Qt 6 environment
[08:59] <amcsi> help, there were some messed up updates, and now my Xubuntu 22.04 can't see my Ethernet or Wifi device, and I'm stuck without internet or any networking. How can I reset my network stuff?
[09:00] <amcsi> my touchpad also stopped working btw, but I'll worry about that later
[10:14] <jeremy31> amcsi: boot into older kernel and try to install updates again
[10:41] <amcsi> jeremy31, thanks. I actually got that suggested to me by ChatGPT and that did work :D
[14:18] <danieli> Hello. I am having some issues with Focal installs, it appears that /usr/share/debootstrap/scripts/focal (presumably from debootstrap-udeb) is missing rather than being a symlink to 'gutsy' in the same directory. Is this a known issue, and is there a good way to figure out what happened to the package?
[14:19] <danieli> I am highly familiar with Debian but not quite as much with Ubuntu, so I figured I would ask here before digging around in the package archives.
[14:48] <danieli> someone *just* posted https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debootstrap/+bug/2024200 so I will follow that one up
[14:48] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Launchpad bug 2024200 in debootstrap (Ubuntu) "[debootstrap] /usr/share/debootstrap/scripts/focal missing" [Undecided, New]
[14:57] <ogra> danieli, ubuntu only uses /usr/share/debootstrap/scripts/gutsy anyway ... all others are just symlinks to gutsy ... yu should be able to just add that symlink yourself ... also note that ubuntu does not use debian-installer anymore so there are no udebs anywhere
[14:59] <danieli> ogra: indeed, but my org is in a specific use case stuck to using Ubuntu 20 due to it supporting the old Debian installer, which is where this issue is applicable
[16:27] <jensen> what's the rationale behind switching to Power Profiles Daemon? Disabling turbo seems a little controversional and seems like the venerable TLP is way more comprehensive
[16:39] <deadrom> hi
[16:40] <deadrom> I keep moving in circles trying to report a bug. I'm logged into launchpad but nowhere got an actual report function. where is it? ubuntu-bug blabbs out way too much information about my system
[16:41] <CumbaLit> Hi, is Ubuntu Desktop available on arm64?
[16:42] <deadrom> CumbaLit: arm64 is supported, depending on your platform you may need a vendor specific image, say raspi4, odroid
[16:43] <deadrom> otherwise: https://ubuntu.com/download/server/arm
[16:43] <deadrom> ah, server image, my fault.
[16:45] <CumbaLit> deadrom ha, I was about to say :)
[16:46] <deadrom> from there you can install desktop environments of course, but it all depends if you have supported graphics hardware.
[16:46] <deadrom> https://cdimage.ubuntu.com/jammy/daily-live/current/
[16:46] <deadrom> these are not officially supported from what I gather. what platform do you use?
[16:46] <oerheks> with apport-cli PACKAGENAME one gets the chance not to send, but send later. so you have control about the info collected https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/reporting-bugs-in-ubuntu-server/11508
[16:51] <CumbaLit> deadrom trying to run a vm with an m2 chip on my mac. I was hoping for an easy install don't feel like tinkering with much to get it working
[16:52] <deadrom> CumbaLit: an arm64 vm on an m2 host?
[16:53] <CumbaLit> deadrom that's right
[16:54] <deadrom> sounds like a qemu job. but if you are out for a foreign platform anyway, why not run an x64 vm?
[16:59] <CumbaLit> deadrom I could but I want to run it on my mac and will not let me run x64 vms because of the m2 chip arch
[16:59] <deadrom> "ARM based", no idea how arm M2 actually is. is it arm64 compat?
[17:00] <deadrom> CumbaLit: have you tried VirtualBox? the 7 series have Mx support, but still in the early stage
[17:01] <CumbaLit> deadrom yes it is, not a chip expert but as far as I know is fully backwards compatible with added proprietary instruction sets for apple stuff like neural engine etc.
[17:03] <CumbaLit> deadrom I haven't, I'm on VMware Fusion 13 which is the latest and will not boot with an x64 iso. Just errors out telling me I have to use an arm ISO
[17:04] <deadrom> guess the arm64.isos from the unsupported builds are your best shot. that or a dedicated machine :)
[17:04] <oerheks> arm server as a start, and choose your de
[17:04] <oerheks> how hard can that be?
[17:05] <deadrom> depending on gpu support up to impossible. worth a shot though
[17:07] <oerheks> “Developer preview for macOS / Arm64 (M1/M2) hosts”  https://osxdaily.com/2022/10/22/you-can-now-run-virtualbox-on-apple-silicon-m1-m2/
[17:11] <deadrom> gettign nowhere with the bug report. apport writes the tmp file, then exits. ok, then not.
[17:14] <donofrio> What is the commandline (text only) installer script called for 23.10 (mantic?)
[17:14] <donofrio> or is mantic 23.04?
[17:58] <Guest94> Hello
[18:07] <Guest94> Hello
[18:19] <Emerald898812> hey
[18:20] <Emerald898812> Do you guys think Mullvad is a good VPN?
[18:20] <Emerald898812> Ive heard it had a lot of connection/re-connection bugs
[18:27] <Emerald898812> Hello
[18:29] <leftyfb> Emerald898812: this is an Ubuntu support channel. Please /join #ubuntu-offtopic if you'd like opinions on 3rd party services
[18:50] <amcsi> help, in my Xubuntu when booting all the title bars are missing. How best to fix?
[18:55] <jhutchins> amcsi: Which release?  Do you mean the title bars for the application windows, or in a specific app?
[18:55] <jhutchins> amcsi: Also, what do you mean by "when booting".
[19:03] <oerheks> problem solved, probably
[19:06] <amcsi> jhutchins, 22.04
[19:06] <amcsi> jhutchins, application windows, all of them
[19:07] <amcsi> never mind the on booting part
[19:07] <amcsi> I just mean the issue persists even when restarting
[19:09] <amcsi> also the desktop items seem to be missing
[19:10] <amcsi> here is an example of how windows look: https://imgur.com/a/zEiHUCs
[19:11] <JanC> looks like the window manager is missing or crashed
[19:12] <amcsi> could be
[19:12] <oerheks> maybe this helps, reset panel config, https://askubuntu.com/questions/1417774/problems-with-panel-in-xubuntu-22-04
[19:16] <amcsi> thanks, I've run those commands and now I'm restarting
[19:16] <amcsi> sadly it didn't help
[19:16] <amcsi> but it did reset my xfce configuration
[19:20] <amcsi> any way to uninstall and reinstall xfce perhaps?
[19:23] <amcsi> maybe apt uninstall then reinstall xubuntu-desktop?
[19:26] <amcsi> wow, removing xubuntu-desktop, purging, doing autoremove, then reinstalling xubuntu-desktop achieved nothing at all
[19:26] <amcsi> after a reboot I still see the exact same problem
[19:27] <rbox> why would removing files and adding the exact same files back change anything
[19:27] <leftyfb> amcsi: create a new user and login as that new user. That will give us some more info
[19:27] <amcsi> don't know, maybe it would have removed some botched config files along the way
[19:27] <amcsi> leftyfb, good idea
[19:29] <amcsi> I already had another user actually...
[19:29] <amcsi> and wow, the other user works perfectly!
[19:30] <amcsi> so it must be a home/config issue, huh?
[19:30] <leftyfb> yep
[19:31] <amcsi> this is helpful. any ideas on which configuration I should probably remove?
[19:32] <leftyfb> I'm not familiar with xcfe and where it stores it's configurations
[19:39] <xangua>  amcsi What happens when you run?: xfwm4 --replace
[19:40] <amcsi> lemme see
[19:42] <amcsi> xangua, wow, that worked too. and no restart was needed
[19:42] <amcsi> now I'll try rebooting again to see if the fix gets persisted
[19:43] <xangua> amcsi: check that xfwm is enabled in: xfce settings>session>startup
[19:44] <amcsi> after rebooting it doesn't work anymore again
[19:44] <xangua> ^
[19:46] <krytarik> amcsi: Try running "rm -rf ~/.cache/sessions/*" to clear any saved (and faulty) sessions and relog in.
[19:46] <amcsi> xangua, can't find that :/
[19:46] <amcsi> krytarik, I'll try that in the meantime
[19:50] <amcsi> krytarik, that worked :o
[19:50] <amcsi> thank you so much, all of you!
[19:51] <krytarik> \o/
[19:56] <goddard> steam refuses to show itself
[19:57] <goddard> so annoying
[20:01] <howarth_> If linux-signatures-nvidia-6.2.0-23-generic contains nvidia-530 sigs, shouldn't it eliminate the need for 'sudo apt-get install nvidia-driver-530' to pull in a dkms dependency?
[20:01] <howarth_> I have secure boot enabled
[20:02] <leftyfb> howarth_: if you disable secure boot you'll have less issues and zero downside
[20:02] <rbox> well, install that package, then try to install the other pacakge, and see what happens
[20:03] <howarth_> I have  linux-signatures-nvidia-6.2.0-23-generic installed and it doesn't seem to do what is should when you attempt to install nvidia-driver-530 regarding signed kernel modules
[20:05] <rbox> what do you think it should be doing
[20:06] <howarth_> It shouldn't be trying to install dkms
[20:06] <howarth_> that only happens when the sigs aren't recognized by the installation process
[20:07] <howarth_> and requires you to locally sign the kernel modules at a bios level
[20:59] <goddard> i might have to nuke this install just because steam refuses to show itself
[21:00] <goddard> which seems insane
[21:00] <rbox> dang
[21:02] <goddard> moved all the config folders purged and installed various versions from different locations and still the window doesn't display
[21:02] <goddard> tried wayland and x
[21:02] <rbox> did yo ucreate a new user?
[21:02] <tweak> hello. I have an emerald theme I would like to convert over to gtk. is there a program that exists to aid in the creation of gtk window themes?
[21:03] <goddard> haven't tried that one yet
[21:03] <goddard> might as well
[21:05] <tweak> i tried installing a metacity / gtk theme from the appearance installer, but it does not show up as being selectable though i confirmed the files are in place
[21:06] <goddard> did you use sudo or something?
[21:06] <goddard> like does your user own the files?
[21:08] <tweak> it's been installed into the ~./themes directory with other ones installed the same way, that are selectable
[21:13] <RickyRat5005> I'm back... Multiple lockups today sadly. Not sure if they are related to this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/2022864
[21:13] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Launchpad bug 2022864 in Ubuntu "Xorg freeze" [Undecided, Incomplete]
[21:17] <subdue> While the issue is fixed, try to roll back on a stable version for your hardware or another distrib that don't have this issue, and maybe wayland would work better.
[21:18] <RickyRat5005> And Wayland is okay with NVIDIA?
[21:21] <jhutchins> !info chrony
[21:25] <tomreyn> RickyRat5005: so those 'lockups' you're discussing, they're about the graphics freezing, or the entire system? you can tell the difference by e.g. switching to a tty with a keyboard shortcut (such as ctrl-alt-F3) and pressing ctrl-alt-del there. if the system then reboots cleanly (give it a minute or two) then this was 'just' a graphics driver issue.
[21:25] <tomreyn> another way you can test, but worse, since it doesn't allow for a clean shutdown, is:
[21:26] <tomreyn> !sysrq
[21:26] <RickyRat5005> Seems like the whole system, I can't even ssh in from another machine when it locks up.
[21:26] <tomreyn> these are handled by the kernel, so if they still succeed it means the kernel still works
[21:26] <RickyRat5005> I wanted to ssh in to see what is going on.
[21:26] <tomreyn> the first approach requires both kernel and userspace to still work
[21:27] <RickyRat5005> Ok, I will try that.
[21:28] <tomreyn> if you can reboot using one of these methods, there's a better chance to actually catch the root cause on your logs, too, which did not succeed so far
[21:29] <RickyRat5005> Gotcha.
[21:30] <RickyRat5005> Am I having so many problems because I am not using LTS or because I am using NVIDIA? I love linux but honestly (Sadly) have less problems when running Windows.
[21:30] <RickyRat5005> And I don't really want to go back to Windows.
[21:32] <jhutchins> RickyRat5005: Remember the hardware companies build for Windows, not for Linux.  That the hardware works in linux is entirely secondary, and often nothing to do with the vendor.
[21:32] <tomreyn> i guess we haven't yet learnt what is happening exactly (user space, kernel, graphics driver failing) nor what is causing it, so it's hard to tell so far.
[21:33] <RickyRat5005> ok, thanks.
[21:33] <tomreyn> did you already do    sudo apt install --reinstall ubuntu-session    as recommended in bug 1717878
[21:33] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Bug 1717878 in gdm3 (Ubuntu) "gdm3/gdm-session-worker crashed with SIGTRAP logging 'GdmSession: no session desktop files installed, aborting...' from get_fallback_session_name from get_default_session_name from get_session_name from get_session_filename from gdm_session_is_wayland_session" [Medium, Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1717878
[21:34] <tomreyn> ah yes you wrote that you did
[21:34] <tomreyn> why do you boot with nomodeset?
[21:35] <tomreyn> and text
[21:36] <RickyRat5005> I have problems booting without nomodeset
[21:37] <RickyRat5005> It locks up.
[21:37] <RickyRat5005> And text so that I can see if there are errors
[21:39] <tomreyn> is 530 the recommended nvidia driver series for your graphics card, though?
[21:42] <oerheks> Quadro T1000 Mobile ?
[21:42] <tomreyn> apparently so
[21:43] <tomreyn> TU117GL-A -> "nvidia quadro T1000"
[21:43] <tomreyn> https://psref.lenovo.com/Detail/ThinkStation/ThinkStation_P350_Tiny?M=30EF004VUS says so, too
[21:47] <RickyRat5005> I tried 535 but stayed at 530 to see if that would help.
[21:48] <oerheks> new 535 published a few hours ago https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[21:49] <oerheks> https://www.nvidia.com/Download/driverResults.aspx/205464/en-us/
[21:54] <tomreyn> well, first of all try to get a better understanding of what fails at all
[21:55] <tomreyn> at this point, it could also be a hardware issue
[21:56] <RickyRat5005> I thought that to, I have run hardware diags and I put Windows on it for over a month and it never locks up on Windows...
[21:56] <RickyRat5005> up to date on Firmware...
[21:57] <tomreyn> i see
[21:57] <RickyRat5005> Yeah, it's bizarre.
[22:33] <ai_> been a long time
[22:40] <ai_> t
[22:40] <sarnold> wb
[22:40] <ai_> hey
[22:48] <ai_> wb all