[11:38] <meena> has anyone noticed yet that setup.py is just a huge pile of hacks, because no one seems to know how setuptools / distutils works 
[11:57] <hexa-> setup.py is on the way out in favor pyproject.toml, precisely because setup.py allows you to introduce all kinds of weird hacks
[11:58] <hexa-> see how setuptools documentation favors pyproject.toml: https://setuptools.pypa.io/en/latest/userguide/quickstart.html
[12:14] <meena> hexa-: okay, but, can we do anything we have to do? (regardless of how hanky we're doing it right now?) 
[16:43] <pitch> hey folks. i know cloudinit from uploading a file to a hostingprovider and run it. now we want to bootstrap deployment at my hackspace. how can cloud-init be used locally?
[17:04] <meena> pitch: there are some sources that can be used that aren't bound to a cloud provider: NoCloud, ConfigDrive
[17:07] <minimal> pitch: use the NoCloud datasource by providing it with configuration files, via either ISO or seed URL
[19:44] <pitch> any hint for a step by step? first time user kinda. just used the yaml arguments with some cloudproviders to seed ssh keys.
[19:59] <meena> pitch: we have done documentation on how to create an image
[20:01] <meena> https://cloudinit.readthedocs.io/en/latest/reference/datasources/nocloud.html#example-creating-a-disk
[20:04] <pitch> so just all the stuff i can do as a yaml/textfile in the /user-data on a seperate partition with cidata label and cloudinit including images will jsut pick it up?
[20:05] <meena> yes! 
[20:05] <pitch> okay
[20:05] <pitch> automagic all the dings
[20:05] <pitch> thanks a lot.
[20:05] <meena> if you have a bunch of machines, you might wanna use an http service
[20:07] <meena> Also this https://cloudinit.readthedocs.io/en/latest/reference/datasources/nocloud.html#dmi-specific-kernel-commandline
[20:08] <pitch> i know. this is about bootstrapping a saltmaster. probably ill just use a ci to build that iso.