[00:01] <oerheks> ehm, if one runs firefox from terminal, such warnings are normal.
[00:01] <oerheks> why running firefox from terminal?
[00:02] <syphyr> im not running from terminal.. this is in syslog
[00:03] <syphyr> but i'll assume if it was a real issue then firefox would not actually start
[00:04] <syphyr> these scope permission messages seem common
[00:06] <syphyr> and if there was a scope issue with systemd, then "systemd-run --user --scope echo hello" would fail
[00:18] <syphyr> weird, I only see those scope permission denied messages when starting firefox from the desktop file
[00:18] <syphyr> if I start it from terminal, there is no problem
[00:18] <rbox> syphyr: what command is the .desktop file running
[00:19] <syphyr> Exec=env BAMF_DESKTOP_FILE_HINT=/var/lib/snapd/desktop/applications/firefox_firefox.desktop /snap/bin/firefox %u
[00:19] <rbox> are you running it like that?
[00:20] <syphyr> if I cd to /snap/bin and run ./firefox then there is no permission error
[00:21] <rbox> thats not what that exec line is...
[00:22] <syphyr> if i run "env BAMF_DESKTOP_FILE_HINT=/var/lib/snapd/desktop/applications/firefox_firefox.desktop /snap/bin/firefox" from terminal
[00:22] <syphyr> then no permission error
[00:23] <syphyr> something with the desktop file is calling systemd
[00:23] <syphyr> in a weird way
[00:24] <rbox> its the context of the window manager
[00:24] <syphyr> ahh.. i think i see why
[00:25] <rbox> vs the context of the terminal
[00:25] <syphyr> i have two versions of firefox installed
[00:25] <rbox> lol
[00:25] <syphyr> one from the deb file
[00:25] <syphyr> and one from snap
[00:26] <syphyr> one of the snap firefox.desktop files has an exec line like this: Exec=firefox %u
[00:27] <syphyr> ill bet that if I remove the older firefox from the deb then the permission error goes away
[00:27] <syphyr> just a theory
[00:27] <syphyr> i could just edit the desktop file to point to /snap/bin/
[00:28] <syphyr> err, no..
[00:29] <syphyr> this is the one that i think its using: /var/lib/snapd/desktop/applications/firefox_firefox.desktop
[00:29] <syphyr> and that one is pointing to /snap/bin/
[00:39] <syphyr> nope, there is a difference b/n running exec command from terminal and clicking on desktop file
[00:39] <syphyr> but i dont see it
[00:39] <syphyr> running exec command has no errors
[01:31] <syphyr> problem solved by adding "systemd.legacy_systemd_cgroup_controller=1" to grub
[01:31] <syphyr> it was a systemd bug
[01:32] <rbox> i dont know how enabling a legacy feature in the kernel to fix an error is a "bug"
[01:54] <syphyr> its not enabling a legacy feature in the kernel..
[01:54] <syphyr> its enabling a legacy feature in systemd
[01:55] <syphyr> the kernel does not have legacy_systemd_cgroup_controller in the code
[01:55] <syphyr> but this is only an issue when using a super old version of systemd
[02:48] <jaywng> hello everyone I am trying to sort some stuff in ubuntu 20.0.4, can someone assist?
[02:49] <Bashing-om> !ask | jaywng
[02:51] <jaywng> @ubuttu sorry most IRC channels re ghost towns nowadays, so I do not just "Type it out"
[02:54] <jaywng> So my issue is I am trying to figure out how to get NGINX to route a port to a certain program, I know what its called, I just need some guidance as to where the proper conf file is located, the server currently has two program sharing the same ports, i want to isntall a third but need help coniguring the box
[02:57] <rbox> route a port to a program?
[03:17] <jaywng> rbox, yes exactly
[03:17] <rbox> exactly what
[04:22] <wchrisg_> #ubuntu22.04
[04:22] <Guest7825> Hello, could someone help understand what the following means please? Line 3 (why different to line 2?), line 5 (related to line 8?) https://dpaste.org/T0Lip
[04:23] <rbox> Guest7825: line 2 is the default route
[04:23] <rbox> i dont really see the point of line 3
[04:24] <rbox> 5 and 8 are competley differnet masks
[04:25] <Guest7825> rbox, thanks, I just setup a vm router on this Ubuntu 22.04 desktop, just trying to map out the virtual connections https://i.imgur.com/gbwM3aD.png
[04:27] <Guest7825> rbox, so line 2 would be the gateway for the host (Ubuntu 22.04), where would I enter GW 100.64.0.1?  100.64.0.1 is also the IP of the bridged ISP router?
[04:27] <rbox> that came from dhcp
[04:29] <Guest7825> rbox, ok, so the ISP bridged router must be assigned 100.64.0.1 either from the ISP public WAN IP or from the vm router 192.168.1.170?
[04:29] <rbox> wherver you are getting the dhcp from
[04:29] <Guest7825> rbox, I have listed 100.64.0.1 in the ISP bridged router.  Is this wrong or should I also add a GW 100.64.0.1 somewhere on the host's interfaces?
[04:31] <Guest7825> rbox, the dhcp is probably coming from the vm router, however I notice the ISP bridged router already has 100.64.0.1 before I create the vm router.  Therefore the bridged router might be getting 100.64.0.1 from the ISP's public WAN IP?
[05:03] <webchat57> hello sir, i have problem related to flatpak.
[05:06] <webchat57> pls help
[05:06] <rbox> !ask
[05:09] <webchat57> i have installed flatpak, but the flatpak is not showing in the software store, and also i cant access it from the terminal.. pls help
[05:11] <rbox> i dont think the software store does flatpaks
[05:12] <webchat57> but i have installed it manually.
[05:12] <rbox> and?
[05:12] <webchat57> it not working'
[05:12] <rbox> sounds like you didnt set up flatpak properly
[05:13] <webchat57> can u tell me
[05:15] <webchat57> help pls
[05:16] <rbox> surely the flatpak website has installation instructions
[05:16] <webchat57> i had followed this instructions..
[05:18] <dranch> Which flatpak are you trying to run?
[05:19] <webchat57> version is 1.12.7
[05:19] <webchat57> for ubuntu 22.04 lts
[05:20] <dranch> Not the version of say the flatpak utility.. what actual program are you trying to run that's packaged into a flatpak
[05:20] <webchat57> trying to install software
[05:21] <dranch> the flatpak utility itself?
[05:21] <webchat57> from flatpak
[05:22] <dranch> If so, where in these few steps do things break?  https flatpak.org/setup/Ubuntu
[05:23] <webchat57> i had followed this command.
[05:24] <webchat57> what can i do for remove snap and install flatpak.
[05:25] <dranch> I didn't see what command you installed but don't try to uninstall snap from Ubuntu.. you will wreck the OS.  Just run flatpaks in parallel to snaps
[05:40] <webchat57> i also have a problem, when system is booting there is showing
[05:40] <webchat57> sda3 clean and blocks
[05:41] <rbox> and the problem is?
[05:42] <webchat57> in the black screen showing sda3 clean(some process) and block(some process).
[05:44] <rbox> [10:41:00 PM] <rbox> and the problem is?
[07:02] <Lartza> What does Ubuntu uses to manage battery charge threshold? In 20.04?
[07:03] <Lartza> I know 22.04 did it but not sure how
[07:05] <Lartza> Oh upower?
[07:13] <meta-coder> Which Window System does Ubuntu 22.04 use? X or Wayland?
[07:14] <rbox> it supporst both
[07:15] <micha_> since the newest ubuntu update the firefox bookmarks toolbar no longer exists, but it is still in the menue
[07:16] <meta-coder> What are the user-visible differences between the two?
[07:17] <rbox> meta-coder: nothing
[07:17] <rbox> some WMs/DEs might not work on one or the other...
[07:18] <micha_> the symbol line below the URL is not visible
[07:18] <micha_> an it is activated
[07:19] <meta-coder> The Jammy/22.04 release notes says GNOME uses Wayland by default. I checked the 22.04 Live CD just now, I see Xorg running, but no Wayland.
[07:20] <rbox> what happens in a live enviornment sometimes isn't the same as once you have an installed system
[07:30] <meta-coder> Can we switch between the two Window System?
[07:31] <alkisg> meta-coder: yes you just need to select it in the login screen
[07:32] <meta-coder> Ok.
[07:34] <lotuspsychje> meta-coder: sidenote; nvidia graphics cards wont work well with wayland yet, will need xorg to login
[07:35] <meta-coder> (I don't have NVidia)
[07:52] <meta-coder> In the Live run of 22.04, I tried logging out and logging in, but I don't see any option or choice to change the Window System.
[07:53] <lotuspsychje> meta-coder: in the the live i think its xorg by default, you might need to physical install to test wayland
[07:54] <meta-coder> Yes, I wanted to test Wayland. OK, I'll have to install...
[09:07] <Lcawte> How would I convert a software RAID 1 OS boot drive to non-RAID? Is there any reason I couldn't leave the array permanently degraded and just fail/zero the drive?
[09:23] <weedmic> the easiest way would be rsync from the raid to a large entough recipeint non-raid hdd - Lcawte
[09:24] <weedmic> once you have confirmed the files are all there, you may then disassemble the array.
[09:41] <Lcawte> weedmic: As the array is the root of the file system, I'm guessing I'll need to do that over IPMI (it's a dedicated server) on a LiveCD?
[11:10] <TomyLobo2> so I installed a package A. package A has "Recommends: R (=1.2.3)" in its control file. Package A is held back for various reasons, but package R can be upgraded to 1.2.4. the new version R_1.2.4 is no longer a dependency or recommendation of anything and "apt autoremove" will happily remove it, oops!
[11:11] <TomyLobo2> glad I noticed that before it happened
[11:20] <TomyLobo2> these "various reasons", btw, are related to me using 20.04 and the software (jitsi-meet) depending on prosody (>= 0.11.7), which I guess is from 22.04...
[11:21] <lotuspsychje> TomyLobo2: can you pastebin the whole apt output of whats happening, so the volunteers get the full picture to help you?
[11:23] <TomyLobo2> I don't need help. tbh I don't know what to do about this at all
[11:24] <lotuspsychje> TomyLobo2: if you dont need help, why are you posting your question in here then?
[11:24] <TomyLobo2> the software shouldn't mix their 20.04 and 22.04 versions in one repo
[11:24] <TomyLobo2> wait, is this not a channel where you can talk about ubuntu without asking a question?
[11:24] <lotuspsychje> nop
[11:25] <lotuspsychje> !discuss
[11:25] <TomyLobo2> oh okay
[11:25] <TomyLobo2> well those channels are empty by comparison
[11:27] <lotuspsychje> doesnt mean you won't get a discussion
[12:25] <raub> Has anyone ever typed a key combination while trying to copy text inside vi (to paste in another window) and instead managed to disable the arrow keys (using hjkl still works) to move the cursor?
[12:25] <raub> If so, how did you get arrows back?
[12:26] <raub> Right now I do not know if that affected the terminal program itself, tmux, or vi
[15:38] <Guest6170> I have 2 SSDs which are both encrypted with LVM. Both were named vgubuntu (default encryption settings) and I used vgrename to rename my main OS one to vgjammy in order for them not to be duplicated names as I was running into problems to mount my other SSD due to this issue.
[15:39] <Guest6170> Now I cant really boot up, it drops to shell after entering my encryption password to the RENAMED SSD
[15:39] <Guest6170> Alert! /dev/mapper/vgubuntu-root does not exist! Dropping to shell
[15:40] <Guest6170> How can I fix this please?
[15:42] <Guest6170> https://ibb.co/PDgxpdM
[15:46] <jhutchins> Guest6170: You need to fix either grub or the initrd (probably both).
[15:46] <jhutchins> !fixgrub
[15:46] <hggdh> Guest6170: it is quite possible your GRUB configuration is still pointing to the old root (I cannot read the screenshot, badly pixellated). You should check it
[15:48] <Guest6170> How do I update grub to point to newly renamed lvm?
[15:48] <Guest6170> It was default encryption settings LVM during Ubuntu installation
[15:50] <jhutchins> please see the link posted by ubottu above.
[15:51] <jhutchins> I'm not finding docs on how to rebuild initramfs for ubuntu, sorry.
[15:52] <jhutchins> Guest6170: It looks like update-initramfs is the correct tool for that.
[15:54] <oerheks> just change vgubuntu to vgjammy , this might be a help https://www.shellhacks.com/reinstall-grub-from-live-usb-uefi-lvm/
[16:32] <Guest6170> oerheks: I changed it from vgubuntu to vgjammy in order not to have 2 duplicate encrypted SSD with same name
[16:32] <pitch> hey there. can someone give me a hint: trying to setup a raspi with ubuntu server using cloudinit. got my cloudinit.txt. whats next?
[16:33] <Guest6170> As I was having problems to access my other encrypted SSD with File Manager due to them being same names (it would disappear as soon as I would decrypt it?
[16:34] <Guest6170> jhutchins: can I use update-initframfs from shell it drops me to after I enter encryption password?
[16:44] <Guest6170> Please help
[16:59] <tomreyn> Guest6170: if you renamed devices required for booting, you will need to run update-initramfs and update-grub while all file systems of the proper system are mounted. you can get to this point by either booting off an ubuntu installer/live usb and chroot-ing into the installed system, or by using the recovery option from grub's Advanced menu, then manually setting up all block devices / mounts as needed.
[17:01] <Guest6170> I see. Thanks a lot guys, will try.
[17:04] <jhutchins> Encrypting file systems is WAY too easy for beginners.
[17:07] <EriC^^> Guest6170: i think /etc/fstab points to the name of the rootfs in such an install
[17:12] <EriC^^> Guest6170: also have a look at /etc/crypttab
[17:40] <swanna> Hi hello
[17:47] <jhutchins> EriC^^: The boot device is configured in grub.  Iirc fstab is copied to the initrd.
[18:00] <EriC^^> jhutchins: yeah, that error looks like it's from the grub line, he still has to fix fstab probably though, dont use encryption myself
[18:01] <myb> myb
[18:02] <tomreyn> myb: hi there, do you have an ubuntu support question?
[18:58] <Guest6170> @tomreyn: How do I chroot into installed system from my Ubuntu live usb?
[18:59] <Guest6170> My main system is also encrypted with LVM
[19:01] <tomreyn> Guest6170: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCdRecovery
[19:02] <tomreyn> https://askubuntu.com/questions/719409/how-to-reinstall-grub-from-a-liveusb-if-the-partition-is-encrypted-and-there-i covers encryption + lvm, too
[19:17] <Guest6170> How do I find out which is my /boot partition @tomreyn
[19:17] <Guest6170> Could it be /dev/sdb1 or sdb2 or sbd3?
[19:18] <Guest6170> I installed guided partitioning using encryption + LVM
[19:19] <Guest6170> I can see that /dev/sdb1 says Type EFI System and /dev/sdb3 is about 920gb out of 1TB SSD I have
[19:19] <Guest6170> The /dev/sdb2 says 1.gb Linux Filesystem
[19:19] <Guest6170> 1.7gb
[19:30] <Guest6170> Solved it by renaming vgjammy back go vgubuntu (as it was) and I managed to boot
[19:30] <Guest6170> I have 2 SSDs which are both encrypted and named vgubuntu
[19:31] <Guest6170> If I mount my other one, it will simply disappear from file manager because of duplicate name
[19:31] <Guest6170> How do I solve this @tomreyn PLEASE help one last time brother
[19:38] <Guest6170> It dissappears from File Manager as soon as I open it because it has the same name as vgubuntu in my main OS
[19:39] <Guest6170> What the heck :(
[19:39] <oerheks> lvm rename volumegroup gives a lot of howto's
[19:39] <oerheks> https://thaniri.com/blog/2019-12-01-rename-volume-group-ubuntu-1604/
[19:39] <oerheks> really did you do any research?
[19:39] <Guest6170> But if I rename it, it will NOT boot up (I have another Linux OS on it)
[19:39] <Guest6170> Lol
[19:39] <oerheks> lol, then time to reinstall
[19:41] <Guest6170> Surely it can be done without reinstalling
[19:41] <Guest6170> Wtf is this @linux devs
[19:41] <oerheks> no you don;t  want to.
[19:41] <oerheks> another good howto https://www.golinuxcloud.com/rename-logical-volume-example/
[19:42] <oerheks> this all ofcourse without that 2nd copy mounted
[20:05] <imi> hi
[20:05] <kostkon> imi, hello
[20:06] <imi> as far as I can tell cryptsetup luksRemoveKey does not remove the key, it replaces it with a different one
[20:09] <Guest6170> @oerheks: I renamed my  LVM but when I run update-initramfs -u -k -all I got update-initramfs: failed for /boot/initrd.img--all with 2.
[20:09] <Guest6170> What now? Fml
[20:13] <Guest6170> solved
[20:16] <Guest6170> Is rsync the best CLI tool for copying my files from the other SSD?
[20:16] <Guest6170> What does everyone use for copying large amounts of files between drives?
[20:17] <alkisg> cp, rsync, dd, file manager, zfs snapshot beaming, it depends on the use case...
[20:59] <jhutchins> Guest6170: What was your solution?
[21:01] <Guest6170> @jhutchins: I booted into my main OS in my main SSD, as root I renamed the LVM using vgrename tool and updated /etc/fstab + /boot/grub/grub.cfg vgubuntu string to my new lvm name
[21:02] <Guest6170> Ran update-initramfs for my kernal too and rebooted
[21:02] <Guest6170> It worked
[21:02] <jhutchins> Guest6170: Sounds great, and you got there pretty quickly.
[21:02] <Guest6170> But honestly, this problem should not even exist at all
[21:02] <Guest6170> Ubuntu devs need to fix it
[21:03] <Guest6170> If another Luks encrypted SSD has Ubuntu too on it and is encrypted under same LVM name "vgubuntu" (the default)
[21:03] <leftyfb> you want update-initramfs to rename LVM volunme groups?
[21:03] <Guest6170> Then it should NOT disappear from file manager when you decrypt and mount it just because it has same LVM name as your main OS one
[21:04] <Guest6170> Someone tell Ubuntu devs about this
[21:04] <Guest6170> Should honestly be fixed
[21:05] <leftyfb> Guest6170: there is no bug. Don't try to mount multiple volumes with the same volume group names
[21:05] <Guest6170> But my other ssd is encrypted too with the same name vgubuntu
[21:06] <Guest6170> Why should it disappear from File Manager when I enter my encryption key?
[21:06] <Guest6170> It's nonsense
[21:06] <leftyfb> don't do that
[21:06] <Guest6170> But I have too. A lot of times people need to do this
[21:06] <Guest6170> It should not disappear
[21:07] <leftyfb> !bug | Guest6170
[21:08] <oerheks> this is the first time i see someone try to use the same volume names.
[21:08] <Guest6170> That's because I used the default Ubuntu LVM encryption during installation
[21:08] <Guest6170> In both SSDs, I installed Ubuntus
[21:09] <Guest6170> And I have my files in my other SSD and I want to back them up elsewhere
[21:10] <Guest6170> How about Ubuntu offers to name the LVM during installation?
[21:10] <Guest6170> Didn't see that option!
[21:12] <oerheks> just curious, what would ubuntu offer, when you install a 3rd volumegroup?
[21:12] <oerheks> grinn
[21:13] <tomreyn> you have a rather corner case setup there, with two ubuntu installations between which you multi-boot. still, having the graphical file manager handle multiple VG's of the same name properly does seem like a good bug report / feature request to me.
[21:14] <Guest6170> 22.04 is installed in ssd1
[21:14] <Guest6170> 23.10 is installed in ss2
[21:14] <tomreyn> this is probably referring to naultilus / gnome files, and you would need to report it upstream in addition to against ubuntu
[21:14] <Guest6170> My files are in ssd2. I want to decrypt and mount my ssd2 so I can copy my files to ssd1
[21:14] <Guest6170> Nope, can't do that because they have same names "vgubuntu"
[21:15] <Guest6170> That ssd will automatically disappear from file manager because they have the same name
[21:15] <Guest6170> Which is completely nonsense
[21:15] <tomreyn> i think what you are reporting here is understood.
[21:15] <Guest6170> Let's be honest. Please fix this
[21:15] <tomreyn> did you file bug reports, yet?
[21:16] <tomreyn> because just reporting something on an irc self-support chat isn't going to get it fixed
[21:17] <Guest6170> Surely Ubuntu has PAID developers in this chat who will get it fixed, r-right?
[21:17] <jhutchins> Guest6170: No.
[21:18] <jhutchins> Guest6170: This channel is almost entirely fellow users who may know something about your questions.
[21:18] <leftyfb> Guest6170: IRC is a horrible bug tracker
[21:19] <jhutchins> Guest6170: Some of us are waiting for answers to our own questions.  We also learn from other people's questions and solutions.
[21:19] <tomreyn> and you'll get the same response from any other distro, even the more commercial ones
[21:19] <Guest6170> Now my Ubuntu crashes/freezes when trying to copy folders from ssd2 to ssd1
[21:19] <Guest6170> Great! Got high end hardware too specifically so I could get a good workstation
[21:19] <jhutchins> The more commercial ones tend to have less community support.
[21:20] <tomreyn> but will still not take bug reports from irc
[21:20] <Guest6170> It is 7700X Ryzen + 6700XT, 64 Ram etc and still freezes
[21:20] <Guest6170> Jfc Ubuntu get your shit fixed
[21:20] <leftyfb> !bug | Guest6170
[21:21] <jhutchins> Guest6170: That's not how OS software works.
[21:21] <Guest6170> The fact it freezes when copying files isn't a particular bug
[21:21] <tomreyn> Guest6170: no need to curse.
[21:21] <Guest6170> It's just a badly designed system/drivers problem etc
[21:21] <leftyfb> Guest6170: "freezing" is a bug.
[21:22] <jhutchins> Guest6170: You're free to use a different distro.
[21:22] <Guest6170> How do I find out what exactly is causing the bug?
[21:22] <jhutchins> Guest6170: Or Windows for that matter.
[21:22] <Guest6170> How do I try to understand what is causing errors when my Ubuntu freezes/crashes when it shouldn't?
[21:22] <leftyfb> Guest6170: what release of ubuntu are you running?
[21:22] <tomreyn> you read your logs and spend time to get a better understanding of what they mean, like all of us do
[21:23] <Guest6170> 22.04 LTS
[21:23] <Guest6170> How do I read the logs?
[21:24] <leftyfb> Guest6170: stock Ubuntu Gnome desktop install or is it one of other flavors?
[21:24] <Guest6170> Stock amd64 iso
[21:24] <leftyfb> Guest6170: which kernel?  ( run "uname -a" in a terminal )
[21:24] <Guest6170> Tried Kubuntu 22.04 but just wouldn't work, annoying bugs here and there which would make Plasma crash/freeze
[21:25] <Guest6170> 5.19.0.-45
[21:26] <Guest6170> How do I read the logs?
[21:26] <leftyfb> Guest6170: do you have the 3rd party drivers installed for your GPU?
[21:26] <Guest6170> No proprietary drivers in use
[21:26] <leftyfb> Guest6170: can you try?
[21:27] <Guest6170> The amd graphic card drivers from Amd website? Yes I can
[21:27] <tomreyn> the journalctl command lets you access your system logs. other logs may exist in /var/log and $HOME/.local
[21:27] <leftyfb> no, from the "additional drivers" utility built into ubuntu
[21:27] <Guest6170> But doubt that's the problem.  How do I find out what is causing it to freeze? It really shouldn't as it's high end hardware
[21:28] <Guest6170> Let me upload a photo of my hardware
[21:28] <rardiol1> Hi, anyone knows how to run xrandr for another seat on a multiseat setup with lightdm? I can do it if the other seat is logged in but "sudo -u lightdm env DISPLAY=:1 xrandr" gives a "Authorization required, but no authorization protocol specified Can't open display :1" error message
[21:28] <leftyfb> Guest6170: high end hardware, especially with a discrete GPU, I've seen act unstable if the proprietary drivers aren't installed
[21:29] <leftyfb> rardiol1: isn't the other "seat" running as a different user?
[21:29] <leftyfb> Guest6170: as for logs, I would start with running "dmesg -Tw" in a terminal and trying to reproduce the issue
[21:29] <Guest6170> https://ibb.co/7tz0N50
[21:29] <leftyfb> Guest6170: you can also run "nautilus" from a terminal and watch the messages there while you try to reproduce the issue
[21:29] <Guest6170> That's my hardware
[21:30] <rardiol1> leftyfb: it's not logged in yet, there's nothing on the screen, I want to run xrandr to see if I can fix it.
[21:30] <leftyfb> rardiol1: login as the user
[21:30] <rardiol1> A bit hard when I don't see anything but guess I can configure autologin and try that. thanks
[21:33] <leftyfb> rardiol1: you do know xrandr doesn't save the settings right?
[21:34] <rardiol1> leftyfb: frankly I just want to know if the monitor settings are available at all because I'm not sure if my setup theoretically works
[21:38] <oerheks> check your mobo for a bios update, current is F9A   https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/B650M-GAMING-X-AX-rev-1x/support#support-dl-bios
[21:38] <Guest6170> I have updated it to the last version
[21:41] <Guest6170> I will try the drivers from amd website. So far it seems the problem happens only when copying large sized folders from ss2 to ss1. Hope it's not a common issue as this is supposed to be my main workstation rig
[21:43] <tomreyn> you most likely don't want the amd graphics drivers from amd.com, but stick to those that ubuntu provides.
[21:44] <leftyfb> 2023 Jun 18 17:27:33 <leftyfb>	no, from the "additional drivers" utility built into ubuntu
[21:44] <tomreyn> well they won't be there either because they're open source
[21:44] <Guest6170> They are not there
[21:44] <tomreyn> better focus on your logs.
[21:49] <rardiol1> leftyfb: for some reason the autologin didn't actually work but configuring it and rebooting made the screen work. Thanks for the help.
[22:32] <Crell> Hi folks.  Slightly silly question. I am replacing one of my 3 hard drives, which is I believe failing.  sda.  However... I'm not sure which of the 3 physical drives is sda. :-)  What's the easiest way to figure that out?  Can I get a serial number from the OS somehow and then check the hardware, or is there a better way?
[22:35] <oerheks> sudo hdparm -i /dev/sd* # would show info and serialnr
[22:36] <oerheks> udevadm info --query=all --name=/dev/sda | grep ID_SERIAL
[22:36] <oerheks> more than one solution
[22:37] <oerheks> do that for sdb and sdc and so on
[22:37] <Crell> Hm.  The hdparm one is giving me a DMA fail "inappropriate ictl for device" on all three drives.
[22:37] <Crell> udevadm works, though.
[22:37] <oerheks> you think your hdd fails, maybe it is the controller?
[22:39] <Crell> Not impossible, I suppose.  The symptoms are overall system slowness on seemingly any IO, yet low load.  I ran smartctl -t short on each of the drives, and sda never finished, but the other two did.  Hence I concluded sda was dying.  (It's a 3 disk RAID5 array.)
[23:14] <Crell> Well this is fun.  mdadm --manage /dev/md0 --fail /dev/sda # Reports no such device.  There's also an md1, but it doesn't seem to be found there, either.  Yet I know it's there, because I could try running smart tests on it.  Wha?
[23:31] <Lagair> I seem to be doing something wrong. I have used linux as a desktop, off and on, for about 20 years. The desktop has gotten where I don't even really notice that I'm not in Windows anymore. Except for one thing, the handling of multi-monitors. I have constantly fought this. I run 3 4k screens on one video card. Upon screen wake, I have to re-setup
[23:31] <Lagair> everything, every time. Either Gnome forgets the number of screens, the location, the resolution, or the scaling. If not all of the above. Then I have to reposition all my windows. Please tell me that I'm doing something wrong and not that Gnome is terrible at multiple screens. If so, what DM and WM should I be running to not have these problems?