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| echoofyourvoice | hi guys, may i have a question? more of a general linux one but i'm on ubuntu specifically rn so it still applies | 00:41 |
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| echoofyourvoice | is either the boot process or anything that runs afterwards dependent in any way on the /dev/sdx identifiers? my ssd decided to just up and die so i'm booting off a spare one connected via usb, i'm planning to just swap the messed up disk with that one as soon as i can, but i'm wondering if that will break anything | 00:44 |
| EriC^^ | echoofyourvoice: no, typically filesystems are mounted via the fs uuid | 00:50 |
| Guest85 | I have multiple wireguard conf's autostarting, and its causing conflict, so I want to remove the ones Im not using. They were all added with this code "systemctl enable wg-quick@wireguard-vpn-las-vegas", "systemctl enable wg-quick@wireguard-vpn-new-york" etc | 00:58 |
| Guest85 | How can I view all of these wireguard autostarting programs, and remove the ones I dont need? | 00:58 |
| rbox | Guest85: systemctl | grep wg-quick | 01:06 |
| rbox | systemctl disable is the opposite of systemctl enable | 01:06 |
| Guest85 | ty!!!\ | 01:06 |
| Guest85 | "systemctl | grep wg-quick | 01:07 |
| Guest85 | wg-quick@wg1.service loaded active exited WireGuard via wg-quick(8) for wg1 | 01:07 |
| Guest85 | system-wg\x2dquick.slice loaded active active Slice /system/wg-quick | 01:07 |
| Guest85 | " | 01:07 |
| Guest85 | hmmmm | 01:07 |
| Guest85 | Does this mean I only have 1 service active, or 8? | 01:07 |
| rbox | wg-quick(8) is saying wg-quick is a man page in section 8 | 01:09 |
| sem | ubuntu 22.04 I am trying to do apt install apt-config-auto-update. However I get the error 'cannot overwrite /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/10periodic. So I removed that file. But I get the same error. There are some old bug reports about this. I am not sure how to move forward? (I'm trying to get unattended upgrades to be able to automatically restart the server when needed) | 01:15 |
| rbox | sem: what is the full output | 01:17 |
| EriC^^ | sem: i guess it refuses to overwrite it cause the file is owned by another package, you could install using dpkg with --force-overwrite if you're sure about it | 01:18 |
| rbox | looks like both apt-config-auto-update and update-notifier-common provide that file | 01:19 |
| EriC^^ | sem: or with apt-get, sudo apt-get -o Dpkg::Options::="--force-overwrite" install apt-config-auto-update | 01:19 |
| EriC^^ | likely updates on the other package that owns the file would then cause problems again | 01:20 |
| rbox | apt-config-auto-update is a universe package, probably has a bug in it | 01:20 |
| sem | I am not really sure about it but I would like to use the software | 01:22 |
| Guest85 | Well now im kinda more concerned | 01:23 |
| Guest85 | because I removed all of the old .conf files | 01:23 |
| sem | this is the full output rbox https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/hzFWTT2qgg/ | 01:23 |
| Guest85 | but I get connection issues upon bootup, sometimes hmmmm | 01:23 |
| Guest85 | and have to reconnect | 01:23 |
| rbox | sem: yeah, like i said... bug in the package if 2 own the same file | 01:24 |
| EriC^^ | sem: you could easily get the same effect if you run a simple command that checks if the /var/...restart-required file exists and then restarts after the upgrades run | 01:26 |
| sem | so like, modify the unattended-updates script so it has that extra bit? | 01:27 |
| EriC^^ | if [ -f /var/run/reboot-required ]; then reboot; fi | 01:27 |
| EriC^^ | not sure how to run something after unattended-upgrades finishes | 01:30 |
| EriC^^ | sem: there's stuff already in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50unattended-upgrades about rebooting if the file exists and whatnot | 01:33 |
| EriC^^ | seems an option you comment out | 01:33 |
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| EriC^^ | Automatically reboot *WITHOUT CONFIRMATION* if the file /var/run/reboot-required is found after the upgrade , uncomment the line below it and set to "true" | 01:34 |
| Guest85 | 10/10 | 01:38 |
| Guest85 | Good job EriC^^ | 01:39 |
| EriC^^ | ty :D | 01:39 |
| sem | EriC^^, I thought that those items were only honored if the other program was installed | 01:41 |
| sem | reason I thought this was because when I logged into my server, it had been running unattended upgrades like it was supposed to, but then there were 78 upgrades it didn't try to install yet | 01:42 |
| EriC^^ | yikes | 01:44 |
| Guest85 | Hey guys, Im thinking it would be cool to have a Tray-icon which showed the WireGuard connection status, such as connected, disconnected, reconnecting. Any easy solutions for this? ubuntu 22.04. | 01:49 |
| Guest85 | Do you guys think this still works? https://github.com/metalcated/Wireguard-Bravo | 01:55 |
| Guest85 | Its 4 years old | 01:55 |
| Guest85 | https://github.com/UnnoTed/wireguird | 01:56 |
| Guest85 | This one is 3 months last updated... seems more promising. | 01:57 |
| Guest85 | I'm having to re-connect my wireguard tunnel kinda frequenty, is there any way to auto-recconect? | 02:17 |
| towser | so, I have a ubuntu based vps running apache2 and if you visit its IP address it gives you my Wordpress installaion, how do I set it up so that instead of the IP address it uses my domain name I have? | 03:15 |
| enigma9o7 | how do you have a domain name? if that domain name already points to your ip, it should already work. maybe specify the dns you know that has your domain name in it | 03:17 |
| towser | so I set the DNS of my domain to my VPS IP? | 03:18 |
| JellyOnToast | Hi, I'm using Wireguard on Ubuntu 22.04, I set a script to auto-connect upon bootup, but I dont seem to have internet until I re-connect the VPN manually. Secondly, I'm having to manually re-connect the VPN every 5-30 minutes or so, should I change ports, setup auto-reconnect, etc I think the second issue is more likely to be my local wifi being | 03:49 |
| JellyOnToast | congested causing issues than my VPS VPN server being bad. | 03:49 |
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| belzerbud | What this is | 06:24 |
| belzerbud | lol | 06:24 |
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| punkgeek | I have a bash script that needs to run 'netplan apply', but it seems to have a permission problem. The bash script is being run by the cronjob, and I have already granted it execution permissions (chmod +x file) | 07:43 |
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| weedmic | I have some *.md documents which I try to open in firefox, file open index.md, but it always opens in okular. how do I fix that? | 08:02 |
| ElongMonk | HI im a windows user. i have an HP ryzen 5. am i better off with the LTS version or the newer version? | 08:10 |
| ravage | i would always try the LTS version first | 08:11 |
| ravage | less hassle with updating often | 08:11 |
| ElongMonk | will it make the most of my AMD laptop? | 08:11 |
| Wistful | @ElongMon: LTS will make the most of your AMD laptop. | 08:16 |
| vern | Hi | 08:16 |
| elias_a | ho, let's go! Go on and ask vern ! | 08:24 |
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| sudhackar9 | Hey folks! has there been some change in the available kernel packages for ubuntu 14.04? I see a sharp decline in the packages published by Packages.gz with source "linux"? | 08:48 |
| sudhackar9 | This kernel was recently available with source linux | 08:49 |
| sudhackar9 | root@63f5308d1254:/# apt-cache policy linux-image-3.13.0-100-generic | 08:49 |
| sudhackar9 | N: Unable to locate package linux-image-3.13.0-100-generic | 08:49 |
| sudhackar9 | N: Couldn't find any package by regex 'linux-image-3.13.0-100-generic' | 08:49 |
| badutski | I was told to check here if I have encountered a legitimate bug, so what should I do now? | 09:41 |
| elias_a | badutski: Describe the details so we can verify the bug. | 09:49 |
| badutski | Hi elias_a, problem is a btrfs raid1 fails mount on boot: device is missing | 10:30 |
| badutski | I'm trying to use a btrfs raid1 with 3 devices as persistent storage for a live boot ubuntu 22.04 with kernel 5.19.0-43-generic running in a QEMU/KVM. | 10:30 |
| badutski | mkfs.btrfs -L persistence -d raid1 -m raid1 -f /dev/disk/by-id/*-part1 | 10:30 |
| badutski | The raid is created successfully, mounted and persistence.conf file is written to it. | 10:30 |
| badutski | When rebooting the raid fails to mount, 2 of the 3 devices are reported missing, see below. The raid can be mounted manually post boot, without any problems. Creating a single disk btrfs filesystem with the same persistence.conf file works fine. Adding a second disk to the filesystem results in the same type of error. | 10:30 |
| badutski | journalctl -g btrfs | 10:30 |
| badutski | Hi, problem is a btrfs raid1 fails mount on boot: device is missing | 10:31 |
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| Xargon | Greetimgs, I installed Lunar on my Dell Inc. XPS 9320 but the touch bar is not working: it's lighted but whatever button I press does nothing. Any help? | 11:53 |
| ravage | does it work on 22.04? | 11:57 |
| ravage | https://ubuntu.com/certified/202112-29761 | 11:57 |
| ravage | i think all dell devices are only certified for LTS releases | 11:57 |
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| Xargon | yes, it was working | 12:08 |
| Xargon | so basically the solution is format and go back?If I keep my home folder I may clash some configurations as I am basically downgrading them? | 12:10 |
| weedmic | what does "lts release" mean? | 12:11 |
| ravage | !lts | 12:12 |
| ubottu | LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions are supported for 5 years on the desktop and server. The latest LTS version of Ubuntu is !Jammy (Jammy Jellyfish 22.04). Ubuntu !flavors may have different support durations, check their release notes for information. | 12:12 |
| ravage | Xargon: you can try to copy your home directory back. but downgrades are not supported in general | 12:12 |
| Xargon | my home directory is actually on a different partition | 12:13 |
| Xargon | I could move out the .directories in it maybe | 12:13 |
| ravage | make a backup first and then you can play around with it :) | 12:13 |
| Xargon | yeah, a bit big but doable | 12:14 |
| Xargon | or maybe if I am patient this changes will be part of Lunar sooner or later? how's the LTS cycle? which one will be the next LTS? | 12:15 |
| Xargon | But I think that Jammy was out last year, so it will be 4 years more | 12:15 |
| ravage | next LTS is 24.04 | 12:16 |
| Xargon | yeah probably 3 years then | 12:17 |
| ravage | April 2024 | 12:18 |
| ravage | it is in the version :) | 12:18 |
| Xargon | oh | 12:18 |
| Xargon | earlier thant I tought | 12:19 |
| Xargon | well but probably I'll have to downgrade as this is the computer I am using for work | 12:19 |
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| Bombo | hi | 12:51 |
| Bombo | i noticed with ps there is gvfsd running, how is it started? i got lxqt, but nothing in the aurostart | 12:52 |
| Bombo | auto | 12:52 |
| JanC | Bombo: it's used by many Gtk applications | 12:55 |
| JanC | GObject applications even (some might not have a GUI) | 12:56 |
| Bombo | JanC: used ok, but when at what point is it started? | 12:56 |
| JanC | when it's needed | 12:56 |
| JanC | e.g. do you use a Gtk-based file manager? | 12:56 |
| Bombo | who needs it then ;) i killed gvfsd now, then started pcmanfm but it doesn't get started again | 12:56 |
| JanC | pcmanfm is Gtk, right? | 12:57 |
| Bombo | oh no it's qt hmmm | 12:57 |
| JanC | pcmanfm is Gtk, pcmanfm-qt is Qt, it seems | 12:58 |
| Bombo | yes i got -qt lxqt | 12:58 |
| Bombo | hmmm what could have activated it then | 12:59 |
| JanC | seems like pcmanfm-qt also has an optional ("recommended") dependency on Gvfs? | 12:59 |
| JanC | Bombo: do you use network filesystems or a phone/camera linked by USB or anything like that? | 13:00 |
| badutski | Hi, I have a problem with a btrfs raid1 that will not mount on boot because it claims some devices are missing, is this the correct venue to discuss this topic? | 13:01 |
| JanC | probably also used when you "mount" an ISO file | 13:01 |
| Bombo | JanC: i haved mounted remote fs via nfs | 13:01 |
| JanC | Bombo: from the file manager or system-wide? | 13:02 |
| Bombo | fstab | 13:02 |
| Bombo | normally i don't use pcmanfm | 13:02 |
| JanC | ah, fstab-mounted shouldn't use it | 13:02 |
| JanC | probably anything that uses Gtk file dialogs could start gvfsd also | 13:06 |
| JanC | as it shows Gio "locations" | 13:06 |
| Bombo | ok i wonder what started it | 13:07 |
| Bombo | gio list and gio mount -l show stuff, but still no gvfsd is started | 13:08 |
| JanC | using sftp: or http: or similar locations in pcmanfs likely would, as well as mounting filesystem/archive images in it | 13:10 |
| JanC | I would look into all the features it provides & se what applications use those | 13:10 |
| JanC | maybe it's the trash can... | 13:11 |
| JanC | (I don't know if pcmanfm uses that) | 13:11 |
| JanC | Bombo: did you see other gvfsd-* daemons too? | 13:13 |
| Bombo | JanC: yes gvfsd-fuse | 13:16 |
| Bombo | i open a qterminal, then sudo -i -u testuser, that user had gvfsd and gvfsd-fuse running | 13:18 |
| JanC | maybe try "gio list" next time you see it | 13:18 |
| Bombo | i use wine with that user, i just started winecfg but gvfs didn't show up | 13:18 |
| Bombo | aaah firefox! ;) | 13:19 |
| JanC | which uses Gtk file dialogs | 13:20 |
| Bombo | makes sense ;) | 13:20 |
| Bombo | lots of /usr/libexec/xdg-* started too now | 13:20 |
| JanC | snapped Firefox? then it's probably the bridging stuff that connects the application inside the container with the world outside it | 13:22 |
| Bombo | no just normal ff | 13:23 |
| Bombo | so it is automatically started when e.g. firefox starts, but it's still there after ff ha quit | 13:23 |
| Bombo | is there a way to kill it when it is NOT needed? just to know | 13:23 |
| JanC | you mean automatically? | 13:26 |
| Bombo | i killed dbus-launch for that user and everything is gone | 13:28 |
| Bombo | but yes auto if it's not used e.g. after 5 minutes, and the user is not logged in | 13:29 |
| JanC | no idea | 13:29 |
| Bombo | when i exited the qterminal with the sudo -i -u testuser, the gvfsd is still running and /usr/libexec/xdg-* stuff too | 13:30 |
| Bombo | so what i want to know now: how to get rid of all the gvfsd-* and xgd-* daemons after i exited the qterminal. these were started automatically, after i started the qterm, then 'sudo -i -u testuser', then firefox, but after i close the qterminal they are still running (until i kill dbus-launch for that user, as root) | 13:40 |
| Bombo | what hapened | 13:46 |
| Bombo | so what i want to know now: how to get rid of all the gvfsd-* and xgd-* daemons after i exited the qterminal. these were started automatically, after i started the qterm, then 'sudo -i -u testuser', then firefox, but after i close the qterminal they are still running (until i kill dbus-launch for that user, as root) | 13:47 |
| ForeverNoob[m] | Hello, I like unattended-upgrades, it's a really good concept and I wish more distros implemented such a mechanism, but... how can I run a script before the machine reboots after an update? | 13:55 |
| weedmic | om - please no - i need servers to work and research updates and test them before they are implemented on actual devices | 13:56 |
| leftyfb | ForeverNoob[m]: ubuntu does not automatically reboot after updates | 13:56 |
| ForeverNoob[m] | weedmic: I hear ya, but I'd like to err on the safe side and risk a little downtime from time to time. | 13:58 |
| weedmic | that kind of risk can end a vacation :D | 13:58 |
| leftyfb | ForeverNoob[m]: there is really no downtime with updates. Unless the update asks you to restart a service and you choose to do so | 13:58 |
| ForeverNoob[m] | leftyfb: Yeah that's partially what I meant. I know that some updates may break stuff, but I'd risk that instead of potentially becoming vulnerable to attack. | 14:00 |
| badutski | Hi, I have a problem with a btrfs raid1 that will not mount on boot because it claims some devices are missing, is this the correct venue to discuss this topic? | 14:01 |
| ForeverNoob[m] | Having said that, I can enable automatic reboot in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50unattended-upgrades right? | 14:01 |
| leftyfb | ForeverNoob[m]: why would you want to do that? Especially when you're trying to run a script after updates (why?) and want to reboot after said script. Just add the reboot as part of the script | 14:02 |
| ForeverNoob[m] | weedmic: I can't afford to go on vacations anyway so nothing is missed lol | 14:02 |
| ForeverNoob[m] | leftyfb: Good point of adding reboot as part of script. My main purpose of the script is a notification being sent to my phone (but not an e-mail, as I already noticed it had a mail mechanism) | 14:03 |
| leftyfb | ForeverNoob[m]: you know most carriers in the U.S. all have email addresses for sending a text to your phone right? | 14:04 |
| ForeverNoob[m] | I'm not in the US and I'd rather avoid text (costs money and is plaintext), I just curl to an HTTPS URL and it does the rest. | 14:06 |
| JanC | ForeverNoob[m]: you can just run it on every (re)boot then, I suppose | 14:06 |
| leftyfb | I also don't recommend constant reboots like this | 14:07 |
| JanC | it won't require a reboot for most updates? | 14:08 |
| leftyfb | only kernel updates require a reboot, and even then, if you enable livepatch, you don't need to reboot then either | 14:09 |
| ogra | ... well, systemd ones too ... | 14:10 |
| ogra | (but these are super rare) | 14:10 |
| ForeverNoob[m] | Yeah I don't think it does require a reboot every update, the way I understood it is that unattended-upgrades updates only on select updates (indeed kernel and perhaps also systemd or some deep stuff like that). Live patching would be nice but isn't that a premium service? | 14:10 |
| leftyfb | ForeverNoob[m]: it's free for personal use | 14:11 |
| ForeverNoob[m] | Oh interesting. even on multiple machines (simultaneously) ? | 14:13 |
| JanC | for a limited number of personal uses IIRC (but that should suffice for most people) | 14:13 |
| leftyfb | I think it's 3 or 5. More if you're an Ubuntu member | 14:14 |
| ravage | 5 5 | 14:14 |
| ravage | !pro | 14:14 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu Pro is a service offered by Canonical for expanded CVE patching, ten-years security maintenance and optional support. Anyone can use Ubuntu Pro for free for personal use on up to 5 machines. For details please see https://ubuntu.com/pro and https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/ubuntu-pro-faq | 14:14 |
| ogra | livepatch is 3 machines ... pro itself is 5 ... https://ubuntu.com/security/livepatch | 14:16 |
| ravage | well. that is a really strange decision | 14:16 |
| leftyfb | yeah, that was the confusing bit. Not sure why livepatch is only 3 when pro is 5 | 14:16 |
| ogra | yes, agreed | 14:16 |
| ogra | livepatch is way older than pro i guess the policies have simply not been synced yet | 14:17 |
| ForeverNoob[m] | Aah damnit I have 4 machines haha. I'm always so lucky :P | 14:17 |
| ravage | well you can get it free without pro | 14:17 |
| ravage | with any ubuntu one account | 14:17 |
| JanC | livepatch is also more important for some machines than others | 14:18 |
| ogra | right, just create two accounts then it is six 😉 | 14:18 |
| ravage | pretty sure that with pro you will also get 5 | 14:18 |
| ForeverNoob[m] | lol true, hope Canonical doesn't find out :D | 14:18 |
| ogra | it might indeed just be that the lievpatch website is behind | 14:18 |
| JanC | if you have a LAN machine that isn't reachable from the internet, it might be less urgent to have the kernel patched quickly... | 14:19 |
| JanC | compared to e.g. a web/mail-server on the internet | 14:20 |
| JanC | it says "Livepatch is included in Ubuntu Pro." so I presume it would also be 5 then... | 14:21 |
| ForeverNoob[m] | True, but someone once told me that they administered their internal machines with the same level of security as their external ones and I kind of went with it despite it being more of a hassle. | 14:22 |
| NoImNotNineVolt | isn't that rapidly becoming a thing? zero trust architectures, etc? | 14:32 |
| JanC | but when you are limited to how many machine can use something (e.g. for cost reasons), you'll still have to make priorities... :) | 14:35 |
| ogra | well, that limit is really an artificil one after all and only there to avoid abuse from *actual* large companies ... in the end it is them who pay for the free service that everyone else gets | 14:37 |
| leftyfb | run your servers as containers and you only need to worry about 1 kernel | 14:37 |
| ogra | heh, yeah | 14:37 |
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| de-facto | why does the GUI update always try to blame my internet connection for the update manager design flaws? my internet is perfectly fine | 14:51 |
| de-facto | what has my internet connection do do with expiring cryptographic keys of apt? | 14:52 |
| de-facto | this is just beyond stupid to blame it on my _internet_ connection LOL | 14:52 |
| de-facto | maybe displaying the actual error instead of just turfing it away and blaming it categorically on my internet connection would be a more solution oriented approach? | 14:54 |
| de-facto | also why completely failing to update when just one repo key is expired? | 14:54 |
| de-facto | just ignore that and update the rest | 14:54 |
| de-facto | if just one expired key can prevent the whole system from receiving updates it will result in unpatched vulnerabilities for no good reason other than to blame "my internet connection" lol. | 14:57 |
| toddc1 | de-facto: https://ubuntu.com/core/docs/networkmanager/snap-configuration/connectivity-check | 14:58 |
| de-facto | LOOOL | 14:58 |
| de-facto | what should i do with that? | 14:58 |
| toddc1 | de-facto: it pings a site and if it fails it reports a internet fail but other sites may be fine or turn it off | 14:59 |
| de-facto | aha and why would i want to do that? | 14:59 |
| de-facto | i am 100% certain my internet connection is absolutely fine | 14:59 |
| de-facto | its the stupid GUI updater architecture | 15:00 |
| de-facto | even apt on command line is _much_ more usable | 15:00 |
| toddc1 | it lets you know there is a issue possibly local possibly outside I have it on so if it pops up I know to check my local system then ignore it if it is out side | 15:01 |
| de-facto | i am on a wired gigabit ethernet connection, it never failed even once | 15:02 |
| de-facto | its just the stupid GUI blaming every error it encounters on "internet connection" | 15:03 |
| nona | hi all! | 15:03 |
| ogra | de-facto, instead of ranting here ... ubuntu-bug update-manager | 15:03 |
| nona | where could i find out what the latest version of a specific package was in a really old release (such as bionic) | 15:03 |
| de-facto | though in reality its an expired GPG key, not anything with internet connection | 15:03 |
| alkisg | nona: rmadison package | 15:06 |
| nona | oh, alright, so i'd have to install ubuntu first. thank you, alkisg | 15:08 |
| alkisg | nona: if you tell me the package name, I can run the command for you | 15:09 |
| krytarik | nona: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu - could also look up the package here. | 15:16 |
| nona | that helped, thank you krytarik! | 15:21 |
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| bhechinger | PID USER DEV TYPE GPU GPU MEM CPU HOST MEM Command | 15:47 |
| bhechinger | 4057 root 0 Graphic 0% 7961MiB 65% 1% 212MiB /usr/lib/xorg/Xorg -nolisten tcp -auth /var/run/sddm/{3d1d8b92-34e6-4a0f-84e | 15:47 |
| bhechinger | WHYYY Xorg? 😭 | 15:47 |
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| preach | bhechinger: what tool is that? | 16:16 |
| bhechinger | preach: nvtop | 16:17 |
| ChestNUT | I just got a DNS Leak, My IP was the VPN server, but my DNS was the home ISP??? How did that happen and how can i fix it?? wireguard | 16:39 |
| elias_a | ChestNUT: What does ifconfig say when you have the leak? | 16:58 |
| leftyfb | elias_a: ifupdown isn't installed on modern ubuntu releases. Use ip instead | 16:58 |
| elias_a | leftyfb: ifconfig still shows the configuration of the network adapters. | 16:59 |
| ogra | elias_a, after you manually install ifupdown, yeah ... | 17:00 |
| leftyfb | elias_a: only if you install ifupdown. For instance, typing "ifconfig" on a fresh install of Ubuntu 20.04 wil result in "Command 'ifconfig' not found, but can be installed with:" | 17:01 |
| leftyfb | ahm looks like net-tools will bring in "ifconfig". But that isn't installed by default either | 17:02 |
| elias_a | Ok. I must have the needed packages because I have upgraded. | 17:02 |
| ogra | yeah, if you originally installed with something before 2018 it will not have been removed | 17:02 |
| ogra | but IIRC it was dropped in 18.04 (or right after) | 17:03 |
| ogra | update-manager does not remove such packages ... | 17:03 |
| alkisg | AFAIK ifupdown was dropped from the CD a bit after 22.04 alpha. I see it in 20.04.iso and in my 22.04 that I installed when it was alpha. | 17:18 |
| bhechinger | doc|home: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcAhpKySEP8 | 17:35 |
| bhechinger | not a miata, but equally silly | 17:35 |
| leftyfb | bhechinger: wrong channel | 17:38 |
| * bhechinger sighs | 17:38 | |
| bhechinger | IRC is hard. Let's go shopping! :-D | 17:38 |
| bhechinger | leftyfb: That's for calling that out. I never would have noticed then would have been annoyed at him for not answering even though I never sent him the message. :-D | 17:39 |
| BinarySavior | hello, I recently installed new motherboard & CPU & RAM and now when I boot up ubuntu, the desktop environment is not loading, I can ssh into the machine | 18:06 |
| Paranous | When installing Ubuntu Server Pro, in minimalized mode. Does it not include any firewall? - I've it up in a VM, and I'm wanting too SSH into it, however it's rejecting connections. | 18:07 |
| BinarySavior | Paranous, probably you need to install sshd | 18:07 |
| Paranous | Service SSH status shows it's installed and running | 18:08 |
| Paranous | sshd* | 18:08 |
| BinarySavior | are you attempting to log in with rsa keypair or with username/passwd | 18:08 |
| BinarySavior | also, are you on the same LAN as the host, or are you trying to ssh from outside of network? | 18:09 |
| BinarySavior | oh, you said VM | 18:09 |
| Paranous | C:\Users\brandon>ssh 192.168.98.1 | 18:10 |
| Paranous | ssh: connect to host 192.168.98.1 port 22: Connection refused however i've veried it's on that IP and SSHD is listening | 18:10 |
| BinarySavior | can you ping it? | 18:10 |
| BinarySavior | you might want to try ssh user@host | 18:11 |
| Paranous | yes it receives pings | 18:11 |
| Paranous | user@host also rejected | 18:12 |
| Paranous | something else, is ping, and nslookup not base tools installed with ubuntu pro server? | 18:12 |
| BinarySavior | did you try `ssh your_ubuntu_username@192.168.98.1` ? | 18:13 |
| Paranous | Correct | 18:13 |
| wkmango | check the port directly, something like $ nc <guestip> 22 | 18:14 |
| BinarySavior | you can check firewall status with `sudo ufw status` | 18:14 |
| Paranous | Tried that, says doesn't even exist | 18:14 |
| Paranous | It's Ubuntu 22.04.2 live, installed in minimal pro mode | 18:15 |
| wkmango | your vm network bridge setup correctly? can the guest connect to the host? | 18:15 |
| Paranous | well that's another thing, I thought I could ping from inside the VM out, but apparently ping ipaddress isn't even a thing anymore? | 18:16 |
| Paranous | It has internet access, least wget can touch google | 18:17 |
| Paranous | clear | 18:17 |
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| Paranous | Did IRC just server split? | 18:21 |
| tomreyn | !netsplit | Paranous: Yes. | 18:22 |
| ubottu | Paranous: Yes.: A netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Libera) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit | 18:22 |
| JanC | it could also be a server reboot | 18:26 |
| rbnswartz | Does anyone know of a way I can create a calendar event in the calendar such as a DBUS api or maybe some library to interact with the evolution data server? | 18:43 |
| BinarySavior | rbnswartz, pretty sure you can use DAV, right? | 18:45 |
| BinarySavior | I use nextcloud as my DAV server and I just created a new calendar in evolution to connect and sync with my nextcloud calendar, then i can import and create events like .ical etc | 18:46 |
| rbnswartz | BinarySavior I guess I could do that, create a local caldav server but it seems like it would be easier if I could just dump data into evolution directly | 18:48 |
| BinarySavior | if you're into evil stuff (like google calendar) evolution will work with that too | 18:51 |
| BinarySavior | can someone help me troubleshoot why ubuntu desktop environment won't start up? I am able to ssh into the machine, all I see is this when I boot: https://postimg.cc/3WZrzq76 | 18:54 |
| BinarySavior | I can ssh into the machine from my laptop | 18:54 |
| BinarySavior | last time it booted successfully was before I replaced CPU, RAM, MOBO | 18:55 |
| BinarySavior | I tried remove & purge all nvidia* then reinstalled with ubuntu-drivers install | 18:56 |
| BinarySavior | still the same issue | 18:56 |
| BinarySavior | lshw -c video: https://bpa.st/6DYN2 | 18:57 |
| sarnold | BinarySavior: check journalctl output for previous boots, maybe there's more details there? | 19:03 |
| sarnold | BinarySavior: if you fiddled with a bunch of CPU, RAM, MOBO, maybe it's worth going into the BIOS settings, resetting those to defaults, and then turning things back on | 19:04 |
| sarnold | BinarySavior: quite often the bios memory is just random garbage | 19:04 |
| BinarySavior | I replaced motherboard with brand new from factory | 19:04 |
| BinarySavior | I didn't change any BIOS | 19:04 |
| masber | hi, I have an application that tries to open firefox which runs through snap, the web page is not loading and I am getting this error `Gtk-Message: 21:04:16.177: Not loading module "atk-bridge": The functionality is provided by GTK natively. Please try to not load it.` any idea? | 19:05 |
| masber | I tried this `sudo snap refresh snapd-desktop-integration --stable` but does not improve the situation | 19:05 |
| ogra | that is not an error, just an info message from Gtk ... | 19:06 |
| ogra | and snapd-desktop-integration is the thing that snapd uses to notify about updates of snaps, has no other purpose ... | 19:07 |
| sarnold | BinarySavior: then definitely go reset the bios before troubleshooting any further :) | 19:07 |
| BinarySavior | ok haha | 19:07 |
| BinarySavior | you mean reboot into bios and "restore factory defaults" then try booting again? | 19:08 |
| Paranous | BinarySavior have you done any Kernal upgardes? also maybe worth a check in Bios to disable various Power settings. Despite swapping out hardware, I've never known linux to ever be happy with hardware swaps | 19:08 |
| oerheks | bios update comes in mind. | 19:08 |
| Paranous | By default some weird power savings settings could be turned on that you have have had off when you did your original install, leading too Linux freaking out because it wasan't configured with them on | 19:09 |
| Paranous | Curious whats the brand / model of motherboard in use? | 19:11 |
| BinarySavior | Paranous, MSI MEG Z690 ACE DDR5 LGA 1700 Intel Z690 SATA 6Gb/s Extended ATX Intel Motherboard | 19:13 |
| Paranous | Ah we have the same BIOS, under Advanced > APCI | 19:19 |
| BinarySavior | here is journalctl -b: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/brHdpP6vBt/ | 19:20 |
| BinarySavior | Paranous my motherboard has a Clear CMOS button, I pressed it, still getting same issue though | 19:22 |
| oerheks | Z690 ACE (MS-7D27), BIOS 1.80 11/11/2022 ? | 19:24 |
| oerheks | time to check for an update https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/MEG-Z690-ACE/support | 19:24 |
| oerheks | one should ask the vendor for this hardware support | 19:25 |
| Paranous | https://bugs.launchpad.net/acpi/+bug/1978398 - seems this has been a thing for a while now | 19:26 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu- Launchpad bug 1978398 in Ubuntu "[ 0.515312] ACPI BIOS Error (bug): Failure creating named object [\_SB.PC00.SAT0.PRT0.PWRG], AE_ALREADY_EXISTS (20210730/dswload2-326)" [Undecided, Confirmed] | 19:26 | |
| oerheks | no way telling this is an Ubuntu issue. | 19:27 |
| BinarySavior | thanks and sorry oerheks, didn't realize it was mobo issue, tbh I thought it was another nvidia issue which still is technically not a ubuntu issue if I'm using the proprietary drivers (i am) | 19:28 |
| oerheks | nope, good chance it will be fixed with the update | 19:29 |
| oerheks | Paranous, from that bugreport; LENOVO Version: N37ET39W (1.20) Release Date: 04/15/2022 might not be the newest either | 19:30 |
| Paranous | I'm finding this issue via google searches as far back as 2021. Seems almost everyone points at bad firmware | 19:31 |
| Paranous | Maybe it's worth flashing the MB Bios | 19:31 |
| Paranous | It's also not just a Unbuntu issue, it's varied across multiple linux distros and hardware | 19:32 |
| Paranous | Interesting suggestion someone made - Try a live boot media, https://forum.manjaro.org/t/cant-boot-previously-working-install/104119/14 if it doesn't persist there, work backwords eliminaiting various drivers. (Newest driver, isn't always best driver.) | 19:36 |
| oerheks | Paranous, not interesting at all, please do not suggest such in this official support channel | 19:37 |
| oerheks | no way telling this is an Ubuntu issue. without the bios update, lets wait for results. | 19:38 |
| Paranous | I'm telling you it's not Ubuntu specific. and gave you specific sources. | 19:39 |
| BinarySavior | yea I have the manual open right now, following instructions to update the BIOS | 19:39 |
| Paranous | BinarySavior will be curios to see if issue persist after update. | 19:51 |
| BinarySavior | Paranous, for some reason mobo is not accepting BIOS from official MSI website | 19:51 |
| BinarySavior | I'm calling technical support | 19:51 |
| Paranous | When you say it's not accepting it, as in showing wrong version? or simply doesn't recognize the file? | 19:58 |
| Paranous | Last time I delt with that the USB port was wrongfully labeled on the motherboard punchout for flashing, it's often the highest upper left port | 19:59 |
| BinarySavior | Paranous, it displays an error message that says, "The BIOS is not MSI BIOS, update will be ignore !!! If this file come from MSI, please contact with MSI." | 20:10 |
| BinarySavior | I tried both of the most recent BIOS versions and got the same error message | 20:11 |
| BinarySavior | the two most recent* | 20:11 |
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| Paranous | BinarySavior What was the ending extension of those BIOS updates? | 20:19 |
| BinarySavior | .1A0 | 20:19 |
| BinarySavior | i think the problem is with the flash drive itself, I am reformatting the flash drive and trying again | 20:20 |
| newguyop | hi o/ | 20:20 |
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| Paranous | should be FAT32, however if doesn't work, you may have to rename the bios file and due a headless flash. That's only way I was able to flash my MSI board. had same issue. Also a z690 board | 20:21 |
| BinarySavior | Ok after reformatting the flash drive and trying again I receive a different error: "BIOS ROM seems corrupted!! Please check ROM file integrality before update." | 20:23 |
| BinarySavior | lol | 20:23 |
| Paranous | Yeah, better off going the headless route, it just simply works. their EzFlash utility hasn't worked right since 9th gen intel | 20:37 |
| BinarySavior | Paranous, success, found an old 6GB SD card and formatted it with FAT32, now it's working :'D | 20:42 |
| BinarySavior | 4GB*' | 20:42 |
| Paranous | Nice, i'm surprised someone aint yelled at us to goto Hardware lol | 20:44 |
| BinarySavior | or #offtopic | 20:44 |
| Paranous | Seems dead enough in here they likely don't mind | 20:44 |
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| BinarySavior | Ok folks, updated BIOS to most recent version, still having same issue, desktop environment not booting, can only access shell through ssh | 20:46 |
| Paranous | I just did a fresh clean install of Ubuntu Server Pro, and updated it. This time I did the non-minimalized | 20:46 |
| Paranous | prior to all the hardware changes are you using the same GPU? | 20:47 |
| BinarySavior | yes | 20:48 |
| BinarySavior | same GPU | 20:48 |
| BinarySavior | new journalctl -b after bios update: https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/jcNVBT4nWk/ | 20:48 |
| Paranous | Maybe a shot in the dark but have you ever compiled your own kernel before? perhaps recompiling your kernel against your new changed hardware might make a difference? | 20:48 |
| BinarySavior | maybe | 20:50 |
| BinarySavior | I think it might have to do something with Secureboot / UEFI or some previous configuration in my BIOS that I did not reconfigure on this BIOS. | 20:50 |
| BinarySavior | I know it is finicky because I had a dual boot machine on here, a windows partition that I never use that is more trouble than it's worth | 20:51 |
| Paranous | ah, yeah dual-booting especially with the new stuff is NOT as easy as it was back when I actually ran Linux | 20:52 |
| sarnold | there's way more efi pstore stuff in here than I'm used to seeing | 20:52 |
| Paranous | Under the Advanced Bios, Settings > Advanced > ACPI, could disable all of those power settings dealing with sleep and hibernation. See what it does then? | 20:53 |
| Paranous | I have all that garbage turned off. If I wanted my PC to play dead i'd turn it off lol | 20:54 |
| BinarySavior | Paranous, I don't have those settings in Settings > Advanced > ACPI | 20:57 |
| BinarySavior | I'm close to just wiping it and installing fresh | 20:59 |
| Paranous | https://postimg.cc/d75D0Dgc | 21:01 |
| Paranous | you're Bios isn't this? | 21:01 |
| sarnold | BinarySavior: weird, your X looks like it's trying to use an old framebuffer driver.. maybe try "sudo ubuntu-drivers install" or something similar? | 21:01 |
| BinarySavior | sarnold, I already purged nvidia* then did ubuntu-drivers install | 21:02 |
| BinarySavior | I can try again | 21:02 |
| sarnold | oh :( | 21:02 |
| BinarySavior | Paranous, yes but when I click ACPI there's nothing in there about sleep | 21:03 |
| Paranous | Is there any window manager installed with Ubuntu server by default? | 21:05 |
| sarnold | no | 21:06 |
| Paranous | Oh noes, I broke Xserver, now my terminal is inaccessible from my VM. -.- | 21:11 |
| BinarySavior | ok thanks for everyone's help I think I am just going to format the drive and install fresh OS looks like backing up this data will take about 15hr, yuck | 21:22 |
| sarnold | good luck, sorry we couldn't sort it out :( | 21:22 |
| oerheks | fresh install would give generic kernel, not the lowlatency | 21:23 |
| BinarySavior | oerheks, oh I see, do you recommend something else for low latency? I was actually planning on putting ubuntu studio on there, does that come with low latency | 21:28 |
| BinarySavior | wow, file copy estimates were severely wrong, only 30 minutes left haha | 21:31 |
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| Paranous | BinarySavior Was about to ask how many TBs on how many 5200RPM HDDs lol | 21:43 |
| jhutchins | Paranous: A kernel compile doesn't detect local hardware, you have to tell it what to support. That's why you can compile a kernel for hardware that doesn't already have one. | 22:11 |
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