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[05:31] <notsudhackar> Hey folks! has there been some change in the available kernel packages for ubuntu 14.04? I see a sharp decline in the packages published by Packages.gz with source "linux"?
[05:31] <notsudhackar> This kernel was recently available with source linux
[05:31] <notsudhackar> root@63f5308d1254:/# apt-cache policy linux-image-3.13.0-100-generic
[05:31] <notsudhackar> N: Unable to locate package linux-image-3.13.0-100-generic
[05:31] <notsudhackar> N: Couldn't find any package by regex 'linux-image-3.13.0-100-generic'
[05:40] <xangua> !14.04 | notsudhackar
[05:40] <ubottu> notsudhackar: Ubuntu 14.04 LTS (Trusty Tahr) was the 20th release of Ubuntu. !End-of-life was April 25th, 2019. Paid support (ESM) is available. See also !esm, !eol, !eolupgrade
[05:40] <xangua> Mmmm I see things have changed
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[06:14] <notsudhackar> something happened within the past week. I had a dashboard for this information - its showing a decline from ~1500 to 400 packages from source linux
[06:16] <ravage> notsudhackar: 14.04 is not supported here
[06:18] <notsudhackar> Its not about support. I just want to know what changed. Can you redirect me to some channel where I can discuss this?
[06:18] <ravage> !discuss | notsudhackar
[06:18] <ubottu> notsudhackar: Want to talk about Ubuntu, but don't have a support question? /join #ubuntu-discuss for non-support Ubuntu discussion, or try #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat. Thanks!
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[07:45] <prashant> gnome-evolution
[07:47] <tarzeau> evolvotron
[07:48] <prashant> anyone knows the channel for gnome evolution?
[07:48] <tarzeau> #gnome ?
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[08:20] <webchat1> hey, i just installed a kernel in ubuntu vm (5.15.0-1035-azure) and when i boot up in this kernel, i enter the password, the home screen opens and it gets stucked, i cant even ssh to this.
[08:20] <webchat1> anybody else has faced that?
[08:29] <weedmic> is that old?  i seem to be using 6.2.0-23-generic
[08:32] <webchat1> yes its old. i need it for a specific use case of azure migrate. and it needs this kernel to be installed.
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[09:01] <paul424>  I repaste my question here, cause this channel is more L A M E R friendly :  What does the username in the Thunderbird's mail section mean ? I have foobar@myoffice.com and many of the people will use the T-d client in here. What username should I put ?
[09:02] <paul424> also if I remove account in TB, does it implies the account on server would remain intact, right ? ? ?
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[11:33] <hsiktas[m]> is there any backup tool for Linux that allows me to make full image backups of my boot drive to an external drive while the system is running? There are some (offline?) disk cloning tools but these only allow one image on the target drive. Having daily incremental backups of the entire drive would be preferable: https://alternativeto.net/software/macrium-reflect/?platform=linux
[11:38] <ravage> a full image while the system is running is not a good idea. it may work with snapshots on VMs but not on dedicated hardware
[11:42] <hsiktas[m]> it is not like I am trying to backup a live sql system. On my Windows and Mac desktops, these live backups have been reliable for years and I wonder if there is something similar for Linux desktop users like Macrium Reflect or macOS Time Machine
[11:54] <Guest68> When installing Ubuntu Server it's currently assuming that it's going to be part of a cloud environment. Is there a way during installation to enable it to not assume this please?
[11:55] <ravage> Guest68: the server installation works completely offline
[11:55] <ogra> yeah, what makes you think it needs to be part of a cloud env ?
[11:57] <Guest68> Yes it works offline. However it always installs the components for Cloud init, which in certain circumstances would not be desirable. For instance if its use case doesn't involve being in a cloud, such as a classic based file server or other non-cloud type server.
[11:57] <ogra> cloud-init is just a tool to automate some settings ... despite the name (it was initially developed to configure cloud-image on boot) it has nothing to do with clouds
[11:58] <ogra> it allows you to run scripts and set configs for your server from a single file ... it replaces what you might have heard of as "preseeding" in context of debian installas
[11:59] <ogra> *installs
[11:59] <ravage> and you can just remove it after the installation.. with cloud-init as ogra said :D
[11:59] <ogra> 😄
[12:01] <Guest68> That's good for after install, however I was wondering whether a future installer version could off a choice whether or not to install it at all. Specifically the "cloud-init" package.
[12:02] <ravage> no
[12:02] <ravage> (that's a guess. but i dont see why)
[12:04] <Guest68> Well currently the instance I'm planning to install is going to be shared storage for a pair of hypervisors. So I'm not going to be needing or using cloud-init on it.
[12:05] <ravage> it is totally ok to just ignore it
[12:08] <Guest68> It's going to be part of a home lab. As part of a Linux based setup. So your likely to see more of me around here.
[12:11] <aib> Something wrong with jammy packages? Can't seem to update cpp-11, libvirt-daemon, libreoffice-base-core, vim-tiny and some related ones
[12:12] <lotuspsychje> whats apt saying exactly aib
[12:13] <lotuspsychje> !paste the whole output to the volunteers plz
[12:13] <ubottu> lotuspsychje: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[12:13] <ravage> !paste | aib
[12:13] <ubottu> aib: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://dpaste.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.
[12:14] <aib> https://pastebin.com/th7CtHRd
[12:14] <ravage> !phasedupdates
[12:14] <ubottu> Since Ubuntu 21.04, APT may hold back some updates on some systems while they are being phased in. This is called "phased updates". See https://ubottu.com/y/phased and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PhasedUpdates for more info.
[12:15] <aib> oops forgot sources.list
[12:15] <ogra> Guest68, as i said above, cloud-init is replacing preseeding ... so it is used and needed by the installer to do unttended installs if needed ... but you can completely ingore it and can also uninstall it after install
[12:20] <aib> ravage: So upstream (archive.ubuntu.com and security.ubuntu.com) is just giving me an inconsistent view of the package listings?
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[12:21] <ravage> why would you think anything is inconsistent?
[12:24] <aib> ravage: because when I try to update those packages in aptitude I get "#Broken: 13" at the top and the "possible actions" red bar at the bottom?
[12:24] <ravage> never tried that with aptitude
[12:25] <ravage> you can just wait until the packages install or you can do "apt upgrade <list of packages>"
[12:25] <aib> okay, let me try that. output should be easier to paste than aptitude :)
[12:28] <aib> ravage: https://dpaste.com/3UMVVQATH
[12:30] <ravage> so there may be a reason why the packages are kept back
[12:31] <aib> I'm very bad at this apt stuff. The only other time something like this happened, was back around 2007, and the cause was my mirror being out-of-date. Switching to archive. fixed the problem
[12:48] <aib> can anyone help with broken apt? traced it this far down: https://dpaste.com/FM4EQ4KG3
[12:50] <aib> ha! it's security.ubuntu.com . changing to archive.ubuntu.com fixed it
[12:52] <aib> what do you know, this was an outdated mirror, too :)
[12:57] <BinarySavior> FYI anyone interested from yesterday, even after wiping HD and installing fresh OS, POST is still showing those ACPI issues before booting into desktop environment
[12:57] <BinarySavior> I think it might just be my case does not have all the bells and whistles that the motherboard has
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[13:04] <Picarillo> I am on Ubuntu 22.04 LTS and I can't get Brave browser to send notifications. I allow them in browser but the popup still says "You need to allow notifications in Chrome, Select 'Secure' at the beggining of the URL address bar, select the 'Notifications' drop-down, select allow.
[13:05] <Picarillo> https://ibb.co/X55zQWb
[13:05] <Picarillo> I have installed Brave using Snap
[13:06] <ogra> have you clicked on the lock icon in the address bar ?
[13:06] <ogra> snaps are able to send notifications by default so that should not be an issue
[13:06] <jhutchins> BinarySavior: If the errors are happening in POST, it's not OS related.  Have you checked for a BIOS/EFI update?
[13:06] <ogra> (if they use the dsktop interface ... which they do if you see them running on your screen)
[13:07] <BinarySavior> yes I updated the BIOS yesterday to the latest version
[13:08] <jhutchins> BinarySavior: Is there an option somewhere in the BIOS to reset to factory defaults?
[13:08] <BinarySavior> jhutchins, I'm not too concerned about the errors, they are not affecting performance
[13:08] <BinarySavior> jhutchins, yes, I reset the BIOS to factory defaults yesterday too
[13:08] <jhutchins> What brand is this board?
[13:09] <BinarySavior> MSI
[13:13] <BinarySavior> jhutchins, Maybe it's not part of POST, but if you're curious here's journalctl -b https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/qztGp33J4h/
[13:14] <BinarySavior> the message in partciular do a search for AE_ALREADY_EXISTS
[13:14] <BinarySavior> this message pops up every time i boot, before desktop environment starts up
[13:14] <BinarySavior> it happened even after I wiped the SDD and fresh OS install
[13:18] <BinarySavior> but yea it's definitely not ubuntu related, something with the motherboard / case I suspect
[13:19] <BinarySavior> Like the controls for the FAN LEDs is not plugged in, or the reset button, or something like that
[13:25] <jhutchins> Worth checking.
[13:27] <jhutchins> Also might be worthwhile to boot a live imaeg of a couple of other distros.  Debian, sure, but maybe try a non-debian branch.  (Isn't Mint supposed to be built from scratch?).  Maybe a RHEL clone?
[13:27] <jhutchins> Fedora I guess.
[13:28] <jhutchins> SuSE is pretty radically different.  Then there are the BSD branches.
[13:42] <BinarySavior> jhutchins, if I recall correctly I saw this message briefly splash when booting into ubuntu live usb but I didn't try any other OS, I am fairly sure I did not plug in the fan LEDs properly, and I know on the main J1 pins or whatever with the power btn and reset sw, there were a few missing from there that my case does not support
[13:46] <pydev2> hello what ftp server can i use to handle multiple user with different set of permissions and directories? (chroot)
[13:53] <Picarillo> ogra : Yes, notifications are set to allow in the secure icon
[13:56] <ravage> pydev2: proftpd
[13:57] <pydev2> hi ravage ok so basically can i create more user and set specific user for each "login" ?
[13:59] <ravage> Yes
[13:59] <lotuspsychje> pydev2: be carefull with the ftp protocol, these days thats getting hammered 24/7
[14:00] <Picarillo> what's wrong with ftp protocol?
[14:00] <ravage> Nothing
[14:00] <ravage> Just use safe passwords
[14:00] <ravage> And maybe use TLS :)
[14:02] <pydev2> ok thank you
[14:02] <pydev2> yes i will use strong password over TLS
[14:02] <pydev2> and maybe i will change standard port
[14:02] <pydev2> is it useful? what do you think =
[14:02] <pydev2> ?
[14:03] <Guest71> Yea probably a good idea
[14:03] <pydev2> ok
[14:03] <lotuspsychje> and keep track of your hammering logs :p
[14:03] <pydev2> :D
[14:03] <pydev2> ok
[14:27] <pydev1> back
[14:36] <pydev1> is there a guide to understand how to configure multiple users for different directories?
[14:36] <pydev1> because i am reading that the logged user will be redirected to its own home directory
[14:36] <pydev1> i should customize it
[14:52] <BinarySavior> does encrypting the drive during ubuntu installation effect performance all the time or only during startup?
[15:00] <mbeierl> Anyone know how to tell Gnome to stop tiling windows on left or right edge automatically?  Like sometimes when I want to make a window bigger, it suddenly snaps to an edge, vertically maximized, but horizontally 1/3 of the screen width.  Attempts to make the window large fail until I "unmaximize" it by changing the height
[15:01] <pydev1> i am following this guide https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-set-up-vsftpd-for-a-user-s-directory-on-ubuntu-18-04
[15:02] <pydev1> i basically do not have a matching local_root=/home/$USER/ftp for user
[15:02] <pydev1> i mean i would like to set
[15:02] <pydev1> user1 --> /var/www/dir1
[15:02] <pydev1> user1 --> /var/www/dir1
[15:02] <pydev1> user2 --> /var/www/dir2
[15:02] <mbeierl> BinarySavior, the drive is fully encrypted all the time, so all drive access does incur a slight performance overhead to encrypt/decrypt.  The cost is dependent on your CPU and any form of encryption offload
[15:02] <pydev1> those users are system users they do not log into system
[15:02] <pydev1> can i not set the password somehow ?
[15:05] <skayser> Hey guys. I am running jammy and just installed tomcat9. I noticed that the package ships no ufw service definition as other services do (e.g. apache2, postfix). Where can I file this feature request?
[15:05] <skayser> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/RrrmmykXwk/
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[15:39] <Guest51> Hello, can someone help me with a problem I'm having with Ubuntu 20.04 LTS
[15:40] <Guest51> Hola ¿Alguien me puede ayudar con un problema que tengo con Ubuntu 20.04 LTS
[15:50] <spmkde> @Guest51: what kind of problem are you having?
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[15:53] <Guest51> I want to block the ability to change proxy settings from the graphical environment, meaning that the option to switch the proxy from 'Automatic' to 'None' cannot be modified from the graphical interface.
[15:57] <spmkde> I've got no idea on how to do that.
[16:09] <Guest51> Ok, no problem
[16:34] <at3560k> Hi, I've got a question about ubuntu images, and my Googling is failing me.  Situation: $CORP is building a nightly pythons, and the vulnerability scanner is complaining about CVEs.  I understand this happens, things aren't fixed immediately.  When I pull dockerhubs ubuntu:lunar - I see a created time of 2023-06-15T08:33:59  -- about a week ago.  I am confused -- are the latest images not nightlies?  Should we be applying patches to them ourselves, or
[16:34] <at3560k> where should I go looking to start with an image that already has base security patches (like libc) applied?
[16:36] <lord_rob> Hi! Is there a command simillar to dpkg -L using snap? I installed a snap package but I don't know the name of the main executable ...
[16:37] <ogra> lord_rob, snap info <packagename> ... there is a "commands:" section in the output
[16:37] <al1r4d> Any trisquel user here?
[16:38] <ogra> al1r4d, see topic (user your derivatives support channel for unsupported derivatives) ....
[16:38] <ogra> *use
[17:02] <bodiccea> apparently, core files are not generated anymore, and /proc/sys/kernel/core_pattern gives "|/usr/share/apport/apport -p%p -s%s -c%c -d%d -P%P -u%u -g%g -- %E". I thought apport would use a default core naming for *my own* programs ;-) What is the correct way to have apport working without disturbing me ?
[17:16] <bodiccea> Sorry: I meant "core are not generated anymore in current directory on 23.04".
[17:23] <ogra> bodiccea, that pattern is there since 2012 and core files should go into /var/lib/apport/coredump/ ... (and after being processed they go to /var/lib/whoopsie/ from where tey get uploaded to errors.ubuntu.com if apport is enabled in /etc/default/apport)
[17:32] <bodiccea> ogra, I know it is for long time, *but* I got my core dumps in my directory before the 23.04 upgrade (same program, same directory). Whatever the magic involved here, forget about it, I did put "core" in /proc/sys/kernel/core_pattern and disabled apport, it becomes too disturbing.
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[18:10] <lungaro_> If i'm not interested in getting gnome desktop does it make a difference in iso if I get server vs desktop? I still plan to use it as a desktop
[18:11] <oerheks> sure you can start with server
[18:11] <oerheks> there are other iso's available, mind the 3 years support, gnome gives 5 years
[18:11] <oerheks> !flavors
[18:11] <ubottu> Recognized Ubuntu flavors build on Ubuntu and provide a different user experience out of the box. They are supported both in #ubuntu and in their flavor channel. For a list, see https://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu-flavours
[18:23] <TomyWork> kubuntu 22.04 also has 5 years (though the next one might not)
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[18:25] <oerheks> No, kubuntu gives 3 years.
[18:25] <TomyWork> look it up
[18:25] <oerheks> ...
[18:26] <oerheks> see?
[18:27] <TomyWork> what I mean is you look it up
[18:28] <oerheks> I don' t need to.
[18:40] <krytarik> "Kubuntu 22.04 will be supported for 3 years." - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JammyJellyfish/ReleaseNotes/Kubuntu
[18:40] <TomyWork> I think I misinterpreted something on https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Jammy_Jellyfish/
[18:41] <TomyWork> and then someone on #kubuntu said something that sounded like it confirmed it
[18:43] <TomyWork> valorie, to be precise
[18:43] <TomyWork> but it was kind of ambiguous
[18:45] <TomyWork> either way, oerheks seems to be right and I guess the german wiki page for jammy needs an update :)
[18:46] <krytarik> Or more precision wrt flavors at least.
[18:46] <TomyWork> yes
[18:47] <TomyWork> that's the update I meant. the focal page was explicit in that regard
[18:51] <krytarik> "Diese LTS-Version wird fünf Jahre (Ubuntu) bzw. drei Jahre (Derivate) mit Aktualisierungen versorgt." - ah yes, indeed.. though the terminology might be a bit misleading there too.
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[21:31] <bparker> what's the correct package to use to install Qt5 on ubuntu? qt5-default doesn't exist anymore
[21:31] <bparker> and Qt's own documentation on this is very outdated
[21:59] <oerheks> yes, it is qt6 now
[22:01] <oerheks>  KDE Plasma 5.27 was the last major release in the 5 series https://mail.kde.org/pipermail/kde-devel/2023-February/001699.html?ref=news.itsfoss.com
[22:07] <jhutchins> So are we QT6 now?
[22:08] <bparker> oerheks: I need qt5 though
[22:08] <bparker> (and there's no qt6-default either anyway)
[22:12] <oerheks> use focal? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/focal/+package/qt5-default
[22:12] <oerheks> or build those as suggested here https://askubuntu.com/questions/1335184/qt5-default-not-in-ubuntu-21-04
[22:13] <oerheks> its a dead end story, like python2
[22:30] <Square> Man, I'm getting tired of upgrading Discord canary every 2 days by manually download the deb and manually uninstall/install.
[22:31] <Square> Anyone know of a better method?
[22:34] <oerheks> canary is a sort of pre-release. there used to be a discord-canary snap, but no longer maintained
[22:34] <oerheks> https://snapcraft.io/discord or suffer downloading.
[22:35] <ravage> im not an advanced discord user but for what i need the snap works really well
[22:36] <Square> oh hi. Is the stable version a doable route? I figured I had to run the canary for some reason i can't remember
[22:37] <oerheks> no clue there.
[22:38] <oerheks> current on their site is 0.27 too
[22:38] <Square> Oh, I remember. There was a problem with the stable one filling your syslog with error traces. Looking at recent reviews in "Ubuntu Software" it seems to persist.
[22:39] <Square> oh well. I guess i can continue doing this waltz.
[22:41] <ravage> There is a fix for the log spam with the snap version
[22:42] <ravage> snap connect discord:process-control :process-control
[22:51] <Square> Thanks. I might try that.
[23:51] <Guest34> Hey guys, Im trying to setup a self-hosted Wireguard VPN on a remote VPS. That all works, but on my local system, randomly, my DNS reverts back to onlyuse origional ISP DNS. My IP is still changed to the VPN VPS IP, but my DNS will be my old DNS, not using the VPN/VPS DNS at all. I want to prevent DNS leaks, by encrypting my DNS queries to the
[23:51] <Guest34> server. How do VPN companies, and or other people, accomplish this? Thanks guys =)
[23:53] <Guest34> I think that my Ubuntu 22.04 OS, is changing my DNS from the VPN DNS, back to my local DNS, randomly.
[23:54] <sarnold> Guest34: it's common for dhcp servers to tell dhcp clients what DNS servers to use when they assign a lease
[23:54] <sarnold> Guest34: my guess is that your dhcp server is telling your machine what dns servers to use, and the dhcp client obliges
[23:55] <Guest34> yeah
[23:55] <Guest34> How do I ensure that my DNS queries are being sent encrypted to the VPN, and DNS being resolved on the VPN?
[23:55] <Guest34> and sent back
[23:56] <sarnold> there's a few suggestions on https://unix.stackexchange.com/q/146463/7064  for how to set the dns, I'm not sure if the dhclient.conf one would actually work for ubuntu or not
[23:57] <Guest34>  how do all the hundereds of wireguard VPNs do it
[23:57] <gonix> i got so much free disc space it disgust my 8b emulators.
[23:57] <sarnold> depending upon just how badly you want to keep the dns queries away from the network-provided ones, it's probably possible to use some network namespace tricks to get the wireguard interface as the *only* interface in your main network namespace, and have one tiny little namespace that's free ..
[23:57] <Guest34> I mean... this shouldnt be hard
[23:58] <Guest34> hundereds of VPNs do this
[23:58] <Guest34> how do they do it
[23:58] <sarnold> https://unix.stackexchange.com/q/146463/7064 has a few bits of advice
[23:58] <sarnold> FFS FIREFOX
[23:58] <sarnold> https://www.wireguard.com/netns/
[23:59] <Guest34> Yeah I understand I can manually force DNS... but I want to be encrypted through the Wireguard VPN